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BoyScoutKevin
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« on: January 25, 2017, 12:55:43 PM »

Here are some 3 dozen facts about Sir Arthur Conan Doyle and Walter Elias Disney. Some are just interesting coincidences. Others are reasons why both became so successful.

01. Both had Irish ancestors.

02.  Both were from large families.
Doyle: 7 children
Disney: 5 children

03. Though . . .
Doyle: was the oldest boy
Disney: was the youngest boy

04. Both got along better with their mother than their father.

05. Both had a moustache.

06. Both were sharp dressers.

07. Both had a prior career before they settle on their primary career.

08. Both prior careers were in the medical field.
Doyle: a doctor
Disney: an ambulance driver

09. Both were married and had comparatively long marriages.
Doyle: 1st wife 21 years.
2nd wife 23 years.
Disney: 40 years

To be continued . . .
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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2017, 03:23:36 PM »

I think there's a book somewhere in there, Kev...
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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2017, 02:51:59 PM »

I think there's a book somewhere in there, Kev...

Yes, though it has to be fictional, for as far as we know Doyle and Disney never met. Though, between 1901 or the year of Disney's birth and 1930 or the year of Doyle's death, there is an overlap in their timelines. I am sure that Disney was familiar with Doyle, but the interesting question is whether Doyle was familiar with Disney, as Disney was just starting to become famous, when Doyle died.

Continuing . . .

10. Both had children
Doyle: 5
Disney: 2 (1 adopted)

11. Both had a close relation, who followed in their footsteps.
Doyle: a son who became a writer and wrote Sherlock Holmes stories
Disney: a son-in-law who became a Hollywood producer

12. Both were avid sportsmen.
Doyle: cricket
Disney: polo

13. Both were heavy smokers.

14. Both died relatively young.
Doyle: 71
Disney: 65

15. Both deaths were aggravated by smoking.
Doyle: heart disease
Disney: lung cancer

16. Both left behind a widow.
Doyle: his 2nd wife
Disney: his 1st wife

To be continued . . .
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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2017, 12:15:12 PM »

Continuing . . .

17. Both were geniuses in their respective fields.
Doyle: writing
Disney: entertainment

18. Both created iconic characters that will probably live forever.
Doyle: Sherlock Holmes
Disney: Mickey Mouse

19. Both characters were based upon real people.
Doyle: Dr. Joseph Bell
Disney: Douglas Fairbanks and Charlie Chaplin

20. Both created characters that were to some extent based on their creators.
Doyle: Not Holmes, but Watson
Disney: Mickey Mouse

21. Both were financial failures ere they found financial success.
Doyle: could not make a living as a doctor, so he turned to writing
Disney: actually, went bankrupt early in his career

22. Both were well rewarded for their success.
Doyle: At the time, he received the highest fee ever paid to a short story writer for one of his stories.
Disney: his films, especially his animated films, were often the #1 film at the domestic box office.

23. Both were well awarded for their success.
Doyle: received a knighthood for his writings. Not for his Sherlock Holmes, if he had, he would have turned down the award, but for his non-fiction writings.
Disney: at the time of his death, and maybe still, he holds the record for the greatest number of Oscars ever awarded to one person.

24, Both characters appeared in unexpected types of literature.
Christmas stories -- horror -- Imperial Gothic -- sporting stories -- spy stories -- urban noir -- westerns

25. Both saw the potential of their characters in other formats.

26. Though, . . .
Doyle: for the most part, let others run with it.
Disney: for the most part, kept it in house.

27. Though, the characters went in opposite directions.
Doyle: from the printed word--novels and short stories--to film.
Disney: from film--animated short subjects--to the printed word--comic books and comic strips.

28. Both characters were brought to . . . besides those listed to . . .
radio -- scholarly papers -- the stage -- TV shows -- video games

29. Though, . . .
Doyle: not cruise ships nor ice shows
Disney: not the ballet nor Sesame Street

30 Both characters spawned fan . . .
blogs -- hobbies that turned into manias -- podcasts -- products -- publications -- societies -- websites

31. Public domain
Doyle: except for the latest stories, Sherlock Holmes is in the public domain.
Disney: Mickey Mouse is not. He should be, but his copyright keeps getting extended.

To be continued . . .


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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2017, 04:27:04 PM »

Continuing . . .

32. Both liked children.

33. Both were almost equally liked and disliked by their contemporaries.

34. Both were played by themselves on film.

35. Both were played by others on film.

36. Both have had almost more bios written about them than anyone else in their fields,
Doyle: writing
Disney: entertainment.

37. Though, both were hard to understand at times.
Doyle: Continually changed his opinions throughout his life.
Disney: Even those who knew him said they did not know him. Maybe because it was said he was never the same person 2 days in a row.

38. Both were constantly driving themselves onward and upward.

39. Both came up with ideas ahead of their time.

40. Though, both had a mindset set in the past.

And that is 40 similarities between the 2. Of course, there were differences. Probably the greatest being their politics.

Doyle: a Liberal Unionist
Disney: a conservative Republican

--Finis--

And next time . . .?
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2017, 04:18:52 PM »

Actually, 41 similarities.

41. Both wore many hats.
Doyle: writer . . . sportsman -- spiritualist . . . poet -- political candidate . . . playwright -- novelist . . . mystic -- librettist . . . knight -- Freemason . . . essayist -- doctor . . . and agnostic.
Disney: animator . . . cartoonist -- entrepreneur . . . film producer -- innovator . . . sportsman -- studio boss . . . theme park creator -- theme park owner . . . TV personality -- and voice actor.

--Finis II--
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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2017, 04:40:43 PM »

Here are almost a dozen more similarities between Doyle and Disney and 1 difference.

42. Both shared signs of greatness, while they were both in their pre-teens.
Doyle: as a writer
Disney: as an artist

43. Both liked their siblings.

44. Both grew a moustache, as they thought it made them look more mature.

45. Both married a woman older than themselves.

46. Both had a talent for self-promotion.

47.. Both had a sense of humor.

48. Both based what they did on what came before.
Doyle: his writings
Disney: his films

49. Both were interested in photography. Though, for . . .
Doyle: still cameras
Disney: moving picture cameras

50. Both, in the end, far exceeded their fathers in being successful.

51. Both had an interest in life after death.
Doyle: spiritualism
Disney: cryogenics

52. Both were a product of their times. Neither could have existed in a time other than that in which they were born and died.

Difference
Doyle was preoccupied with money.
Disney was not. Walt was an idea man. Brother Roy was the money man.

 
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