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« on: November 06, 2017, 06:32:47 AM »

Sooo on Saturday evening it was off to our favourite local independent cinema for the third installment of Thor.  I waver between watching every single trailer for a movie I'm intending to see, and watching as little of them as possible in order to go into the movie with no preconceptions.  Ragnarok is one where I tried to watch as little as possible, although I couldn't help but see the early viral videos of Thor wandering around on Earth doing funny things.  This didn't sit well with me as I associated Thor with a fair bit of seriousness, considering that the first was directed by Kenneth Branagh of Shakespearean legend.

I was met with a movie that I wasn't expecting at all.  And I'm still of two minds about whether I fully accept it.  This is a comedy.  It's a space comedy not unlike Guardians of the Galaxy, but even more wacky and not a little camp.  It's taken the recent Marvel direction of comedy in movies like Ant-Man and Spider-Man Homecoming and amped it up several notches, and while it's good, I wish they had leaned a bit more on drama and emotion to give it some balance and variety.  There are some dark and abruptly brutal parts of the movie which I won't reveal for the spoilers, but overall, this is a movie that the kids would laugh at throughout.

There are dozens of Easter eggs and references to previous comics and even Australian/New Zealand culture in this film, courtesy of the director Taika Waititi.  Things like this are great for the fans, although I wonder how scriptwriters draw the line between delighting the audience and being clever for clever's sake.  The soundtrack has a lot more popular music and less orchestral score, something which makes it differ from the previous installments, too.

All in all, I recommend this film if you are open to the idea of a Thor space comedy.  Lots of action, great cinematography and direction, some very surprising bit parts (watch the Thor-Loki reenactment very closely) and fun characters make this an enjoyable ride.

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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2017, 10:06:39 PM »

I kind of feel the same way, although I thought the comedy actually hurt the film in some places.  There are several dramatic scenes in the film that get completely undercut by a sight gag or a snarkly line.  I didn't want the film to be too dark but I did want the drama to be taken a little more seriously.

Maybe I'm finally starting to feel the superhero film fatigue that I know a lot of people are feeling.  As even when I like the film, its the flaws I seem to be remembering more.

I did like Hela.  I thought they did a good job bring the character to life and her costume looked better then I thought it would.   Considering the character has one of the more outlandish costumes.  She only has the horns form some of the time.




So-I liked the movie, but its flaws were pretty easy to see.
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2017, 09:04:59 AM »

It had it's problems but overall it was a fun movie.

I went to see it with my Dad and sister. When Jeff Goldblum appeared for the first time and we saw what he was wearing we turned to each other and were like "Ooooohhhhh... No no no... Noooo."
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2017, 07:23:46 PM »

It had it's problems but overall it was a fun movie.

I went to see it with my Dad and sister. When Jeff Goldblum appeared for the first time and we saw what he was wearing we turned to each other and were like "Ooooohhhhh... No no no... Noooo."

Yeah.  When Jeff Goldblum's character was revealed I thought, "what?  Jeff... Goldblum?  He's here?  And he's playing... what??"

And I also agree with @WingedSerpent that the comedy hurt the movie in some places.  There were some moments which could have been more effective had they not slapped a comic comment afterwards.  It's a bit like what Joss Whedon was doing in many Buffy episodes, and 80's Hong Kong cinema was notorious for it.  Something really dark and nasty happens, and then suddenly it's all candy canes and winking at the camera.
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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2017, 01:12:59 PM »

I think people may be overselling the degree to which it's a "comedy." The tone is genrally lighter than the usual Marvel movie, and Jeff Goldblum is funny as the comic relief, but I didn't think it was quite as much of a comedy as GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY or SPIDERMAN: HOMECOMING. The director is definitely better handling the interplay of the characters than he is with directing action or effects scenes, though.

Anyway, it's a nice change of pace overall. I think Marvel has to be running out of steam by now, but they still keep tweaking the formula just enough to keep my interest---most of the time.

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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2017, 12:34:27 PM »

This movie reinforced my latest realization about myself: I'm more and more finding women in their late 40s/early 50s very attractive. I guess that's normal since I'm getting older, too, lol.
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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2017, 10:35:09 AM »

Just saw it last night. Someone was channeling The Fifth Element hard when they were making this movie.
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2017, 06:57:09 PM »

Someone was channeling The Fifth Element hard when they were making this movie.

That...is the the best description of this movie I've heard so far.
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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2017, 09:16:06 PM »

Someone was channeling The Fifth Element hard when they were making this movie.

That...is the the best description of this movie I've heard so far.

My reaction was that the director was smoking dope and chowing down on mushrooms, and made everyone on set do the same.
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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2017, 11:16:47 PM »

It wasn't a comedy.  It was an action movie.  Sure, it was an light hearted action movie with a lot of humor, but it felt more action adventure than comedy to me. 

Also it did have some nice serious moments.  Especially between Thor and Loki. 

Most importantly though, it was a fun movie.  I loved Dr. Strange's  brief role. 
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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2017, 03:33:53 PM »

After 2 films and 6 years, a film that can still surprise, at least it did me, but first . . .

I am an age, when Jeff Goldblum's character would be described as being "fey." As for the surprises . . .

Casting
Who would have thought of casting Jeff Goldblum in that role. Not I.

Acting
Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner/Hulk.
Benedict Cumberbatch as Dr. Strange.
Tom Hiddleston as Loki.
Probably their best performances to date in that role. (IMHO)

And let me not forget . . .
Cate Blanchett as Hela.
Tessa Thompson as Valkyrie.

The violence
Even for a film rated PG-13 I was surprised by the amount of violence in the film. If Rogue One is the most violent film to date in the Star Wars universe, then this is the most violent film to date in the Marvel universe. Among those that I have seen.

On the other hand, I was surprised by the lack of profanity in the film. Except for one long running joke and one throwaway joke about the human anatomy, I noticed only one profane word in the script.

Theme song
I was surprised at how well the theme song was used in the film. (IMHO)

A little bitty tear let me down.
Not surprised by the comedy in the film, but I was surprised at how much pathos I found in it.

Tropes
For me, one of the greatest tropes in film is the one that states: "The farther one falls. The higher one can rise." Not surprised by the trope, but I was surprised at how well it was used in the film. (IMHO) Probably the best use of it to date.

Easter Eggs
As for the Easter eggs, yes there was a lot in the film. Though the one that surprised me is the one that I have yet to see mentioned so far. Scarlet Johanssen's appearance as Black Widow in the film within the film. And as for my favorite, it has to be Loki's "Now, you know how I felt," when Thor is being pummeled by the Hulk. Maybe because you have to go back 2 years to The Avengers : Age of Ultron, to understand what that means.

Surprises that should not have been surprises, but were--to me.
Stan Lee's cameo
--When that grand old man appears on the screen, he always leaves me rolling on the theater floor laughing.

The after credit scenes
--Some of the funniest scenes in a
 film (IMHO.) And this was no exception.

And, of course, the film was not the comic book.
--Loki of the film is not the Loki of the comic book.
--Ragnarok of the film is not the Ragnarok of the comic book.
--and 177A Bleecker Street is not the 177A Bleecker Street of the comic book.

And all this is just a lead up to next year's Avengers : Infinity War with o'er 30 of previous Marvel film characters appearing in the film.
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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2017, 06:00:13 PM »

I think the Easter Egg that surprised me most was the reference to Man-Thing. 
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« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2017, 06:21:23 PM »

Id been led to believe before seeing the film that I was getting myself into a bit of a "Buddy road trip" style film I wasnt expecting what I got at all. I can agree with the people on here who said this reminded them a bit of Guardians of the galaxy. It really does have a lot more of a lighthearted vibe about it; Especially when compared to the two thor films that preceeded it.

It had some gorgeous cinematogrpahy and use of colour that really made the film pop. The original Thor and Thor: The Dark world were a bit drab and washed out. This films been hit with a couple of buckets of paint and the sats have been crunched and I think I love it because of that.

Pretty decent acting throughout. LOVED Hulk in this and Thor and Loki have a real nice relationship balance here. Jeff Goldblum is pretty decent as well..if not a touch on the ham scale...the only thing I can say really is that personally the "Wise guy" sacastic thing is now finally starting to wear a little bit thin...particularly in the opening sequence...its not irritating yet...but I think after Infinity wars and Guardians 3 it'll definately either need reworking for me or at least approaching from a slightly different angle.

Im also not a big CG head to be honest but they've crafted some gorgeous imagery out in this film and the fight scenes in particular are gorgeous sprawling sequences :) though there were a couple of wobbly moments of green screening not quite coming together (Im thinking of the scene where Thor is on earth on the cliffs edge in particular)

best use of "The Immigrant song" in a movie. Hands down.

Is it the Best Thor movie yet? I'd say absolutely. I sat through the whole thing and didnt clock gaze once. it was entertaining well paced and funny in places. Is it the best Marvel Movie? No. I still think for me personally that honour goes to either Captain america: The First Avenger, Avengers Assembled or Guardians of the Galaxy 2. but yes I'd definately reccommend checking it out...just brush up on your past marvel films before you go in because its a total reference-fest.
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