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One of my pet peeves is when they use certain actors in a movie, and then they make a sequel, but they have DIFFERENT actors playing some of the characters from the first movie. The only times when this MAY BE okay (and I stress the word MAY) is when:

1. The sequel takes place years later (and they use an older actor).
2. The sequel is really a "prequel" (and they use a younger actor).
3. It is a James Bond movie (unless they use Roger Moore, the worst of all Bonds - yes, Moore was even worse than George Lazenby).

Some bad sequel casting choices:

* Jackie Gleason and Mac Davis in THE STING II.

* Patty Duke in LOOK WHAT'S HAPPENED TO ROSEMARY'S BABY (but what do you expect from a made-for-television sequel to a great horror movie?)

* Bo Svenson in both WALKING TALL sequels AND the short-lived televsion series!

* Arnold Vosloo in the DARKMAN sequels.

* William Katt and Tom Berenger in BUTCH AND SUNDANCE, THE EARLY DAYS

Feel free to add to the list . . .



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Arnold Vosloo in the DARKMAN sequels.

well anybody could play DARKMAN he has no real face or even voice... I do think the movie quility when from good to boring... because they had "Made for video written all over them"

I have two for you, one of them is very obvious.  One is Robocop.  In the first two movies, Robocop/Murphy was played by...by...(damn) I forgot his name, but I know for sure he was in the first two.  The third one, however, (I only saw parts of it) it wasn't the same guy.

The second one is definitly Batman.  From Michael Keaton, to Val Kilmer, to George Clooney?  It's like a scale from good to worse
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Robocop/Murphy was played by...by...

Peter Weller, also know as "Buckaroo Banza!"

It think Arnold Vosloo was a better Darkman. I'm in a different boat, but I didn't like the first one at all.

Major League should be up there for the fact that the first movie had Wesley Snipes as Willie Mays Hayes.  But when the second came out, it was Omar Epps playing the same part.

I think the reason for it is mainly the ego of some of these actors.  Either they're too big a name to do sequals or they'll do it for an undisclosed amount of money in there contract.  That and the fact that they have a schedual clash and is doing another movie at the same time.
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Yeah I was just gonna say omar epps in ML2. But he did do a good job. Actually the thing is wesley snipes said he'd never do a  sequel. But they were able to snag him as blade in blade 2 which was a pretty good movie( needed  a little tweaking) and hes gonna be back for the third and final blade movie.

A classic example of this is the Jack Ryan films.  Alec Baldwin to Harrison Ford to (gulp) Ben Affleck.  A real bell curve here.

About Bond...you won't find a more dedicated Bond fan than me.  Roger Moore was not the worst Bond.  His Bond films were all meant to be the "Our Man Flynt" kind of stuff.  The worst was Timothy Dalton.  They tried to make him the one-woman-Bond but be a smooth as Connery.  Yikes.  He was also the vengance Bond.  I rank them like this:

1.  Connery
2.  Moore and Brosnan
3.  Lazenby
4.  Dalton

Supposedly Brosnan is now done.  Who will be the next bond.  Jude Law?  Liz Hurley?  The American Psycho?  Who is your pick??

Phantasm 2 really really really hurt.  They put a completely different actor in for Mike!  It was horrible!  Oh the pain, the pain.

007 News-Heard that Halle Berry will be getting her own spin off, with her own Bond flick.

>The worst was Timothy Dalton.

I liked Timothy Dalton. Actually, I've liked pretty much all the bond actors, even Moore, but Dalton really gave the impression he knew what he was doing. I also liked Licence to Kill, which was on just the other day. I've never read any of the books, but comments from people who have say that Dalton is probably closest to the Bond in the books.

Another example of different actors in sequals are the National Lampoon Vacation movies; Four different movies and four different sets of kids. Vegas Vacation also brough back the character of cousin Vicky played by a different actress. The original Vicky was played by Jane Krakowski (Allie McBeal).

I don't mind sequals with different actors.  If the actor can sell me that they are the character in this movie, then I put aside that they looked different in a different movie.

Dunners wrote:

> Yeah I was just gonna say omar epps in ML2. But he did do a
> good job. Actually the thing is wesley snipes said he'd never
> do a  sequel. But they were able to snag him as blade in blade
> 2 which was a pretty good movie( needed  a little tweaking) and
> hes gonna be back for the third and final blade movie.
>
>


I too enjoyed all the Blade films so far, I think if they comind aspects of the first two, the third will be great.

As for Snipes, he once said that Blade was the only movie he ever made that "people would pay to see twice."

Personally I would pay for Demolition Man or Money Train as well as the Blades.

"Major League" seems to show up on T.V *a lot* and while I probably wouldn't pay to see it twice, I definately try to catch what I can of it on TV. (Other than Tom Berenger's ex-love side story)

Yeah, I prfer movies where the actor dies in the middle of the movie and they replace him with someone who's not even close: I submit for comment Plan 9 and Game of Death.

Thoughts?

Rob

Why not try another Batman one. In the first one Harvey Dent was played by Billy Dee Williams. Then by the 3rd film he's played by Tommy Lee Jones. I don't care if they change the actors but for crying out loud that was too big of a change.

The first group of star wars films (and by this I mean episodes 4,5 and 6) had the same main characters - as the viewers, we saw the spiritual and emotional growth of the characters over a 6 year span of movies - this was a work of art.

Flash forward to the new Star Wars - replacing the character of Anakin was like a needle scratching across a record, there is WAY too much CGI, and the characters seem more bored than I am.

Then, there were the movies made after Bruce Lee died, like Game of Death 2, the 1,000 clones of Bruce Lee, played by Bruce Li, Bruce Ki, Bruce Chai Tea....etc.

Oh, c'mon, that's an easy one to explain. The acid hit his whole face and turned one half white and the other half purple. Happens all the time.


Bwahahaha.

I don't know if it counts, but how about the tv show Roseanne.  That Becky chick was played by two different girls.  And, come to think of it way back in the late 70's-early 80's the Jeffersons had two Lionels.
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two words Robocop 3

I'm suprised nobody mentioned Julianne Moore replacing Jodie Foster in "Hannibal".

I think Moore did the best job that she could but all throughout the film I kept picturing Foster instead.

Had Foster not turned down the role I think "Hannibal" would have made even more money than it did.

I think they've had a different batman for each sequal after the first.

There were two different Darren's on Bewitched!

JohnL wrote:

> There were two different Darren's on Bewitched!

Yeah, but that's because one committed suicide.

Ah, yes. Two Lionel Jeffersons.

And the first Lionel was SO MUCH better than the second one.

A damned shame.