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Title: Predator and Predator 2
Post by: Ted C on May 29, 2021, 07:31:22 PM
I have watched both of these again in the last two days.

They're both pretty cheesy, but Predator is a wedge of Parmigiano Reggiano, while Predator 2 is a block of dollar store cheddar. They're both edible cheese, but one is a lot better than the other.


Title: Re: Predator and Predator 2
Post by: zombie no.one on May 31, 2021, 04:35:25 AM
I saw 2 a couple of times around its release, on video rental, and thought it was decent. rewatched it maybe 3 or 4 years ago and thought it was just ok... for some reason I never watched the first one until last year, but I wasn't really concentrating on it so I can't remember much.

I wonder why this never spawned a zillion cruddy sequels a la TERMINATOR


Title: Re: Predator and Predator 2
Post by: chainsaw midget on May 31, 2021, 05:57:30 AM
I watched Predator 2 not too long ago. 

Maybe I've seen Lethal Weapon too many times, but it took me a while to get used to Danny Glover being the cop on the edge who plays by his own rules.  Also, I'm not used to seeing him young.

Other than that, I think Predator 2 is actually better than it's reputation suggests. 


Title: Re: Predator and Predator 2
Post by: FatFreddysCat on May 31, 2021, 06:40:24 AM
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I wonder why this never spawned a zillion cruddy sequels a la TERMINATOR

They've tried, but none of them have really caught on. There were two further Predator films (2010 and 2018), and two crossover movies with the Alien saga.

None of them have been worth a spit.

I hear there's a new Predator movie in the works as we speak.

The original is my favorite Schwarzenegger movie, and "2" is big dumb loud fun. They're the only Predator movies I need.


Title: Re: Predator and Predator 2
Post by: Alex on May 31, 2021, 07:15:01 AM
I enjoyed both movies. Originally Predator 2 was going to have Steven Segal playing Arnold's brother. Somehow I don't see that being a classic.


Title: Re: Predator and Predator 2
Post by: bob on May 31, 2021, 08:12:09 AM
I love Predator..... Predator 2 is okish


Title: Re: Predator and Predator 2
Post by: zombie no.one on May 31, 2021, 09:22:43 AM


They've tried, but none of them have really caught on. There were two further Predator films (2010 and 2018), and two crossover movies with the Alien saga.

oh yeah I heard of ALIEN vs PREDATOR,  didn't know about those others though


Title: Re: Predator and Predator 2
Post by: Ted C on May 31, 2021, 09:13:08 PM
I saw 2 a couple of times around its release, on video rental, and thought it was decent. rewatched it maybe 3 or 4 years ago and thought it was just ok... for some reason I never watched the first one until last year, but I wasn't really concentrating on it so I can't remember much.

I wonder why this never spawned a zillion cruddy sequels a la TERMINATOR

Oh, it did, but they started going more into Aliens vs Predator crossovers than Predator movies, at least until Predators came out in 2010.


Title: Re: Predator and Predator 2
Post by: ralfy on May 31, 2021, 09:35:52 PM
The first is good, around 3 out of 4 stars, but not higher because the plot is simple. The second is OK to above-average, prob. 2 or 2.5 out of 4, bec. the writing looks rough.


Title: Re: Predator and Predator 2
Post by: Allhallowsday on May 31, 2021, 09:55:32 PM
The first film is "classic"... at least "classic AHNOLD".  I like it. 
The second film I barely remember. 


Title: Re: Predator and Predator 2
Post by: claws on June 02, 2021, 03:09:41 AM
The first is an 1980s classic and modern pop culture classic

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Opinions differ when it comes to cheese. Predator is just a product of its time. That said, I think Point Break (1991) is cheesetastic but it seems that nobody agrees with me on that one. I still respect Point Break for the cult classic it is though.


Title: Re: Predator and Predator 2
Post by: Allhallowsday on June 02, 2021, 04:25:38 PM
The first is an 1980s classic and modern pop culture classic...
Opinions differ when it comes to cheese. Predator is just a product of its time. That said, I think Point Break (1991) is cheesetastic but it seems that nobody agrees with me on that one. I still respect Point Break for the cult classic it is though.

I haven't seen POINT BREAK since it was new-ish.   :bouncegiggle:  :thumbup:


Title: Re: Predator and Predator 2
Post by: WingedSerpent on June 02, 2021, 06:42:57 PM
Put me in the camp of people who like both he first and second movies.  The first is still better, but the second one I don't think is awful. I love getting the little looks at the Predators' ( whose species was given the name Yautja  in extended materials)  technology and civilization.  Parts where he uses a medical kit to treat wounds or the various skulls in their ship-setting up the AvP franchise in the process.

And of course, the second one has Gary Busey


Title: Re: Predator and Predator 2
Post by: Ted C on June 04, 2021, 12:05:35 PM
Put me in the camp of people who like both he first and second movies.  The first is still better, but the second one I don't think is awful.

We are in agreement.


Title: Re: Predator and Predator 2
Post by: zombie no.one on June 04, 2021, 05:28:54 PM

Oh, it did, but they started going more into Aliens vs Predator crossovers than Predator movies, at least until Predators came out in 2010.

they should do a prequel, just so they can call it PREPREDATOR


Title: Re: Predator and Predator 2
Post by: teenagehonvedfan on June 05, 2021, 05:07:03 AM
As I've gotten older I've grown fonder of 2.

It's still some some fun moments but agreed, it can't compete with the first Pity they're the only two decent Predator films.


Title: Re: Predator and Predator 2
Post by: zelmo73 on June 05, 2021, 06:12:13 AM
As I've gotten older I've grown fonder of 2.

It's still some some fun moments but agreed, it can't compete with the first Pity they're the only two decent Predator films.

Agreed. I watched the ones that came after and they are all just bad BAD BAD! Aliens Vs. Predator (2004) was okay, but the PG-13 rating killed it for me. 


Title: Re: Predator and Predator 2
Post by: Ted C on June 09, 2021, 09:06:28 AM
As I've gotten older I've grown fonder of 2.

It's still some some fun moments but agreed, it can't compete with the first Pity they're the only two decent Predator films.

I find Predators to be about as good as Predator 2.


Title: Re: Predator and Predator 2
Post by: pennywise37 on June 22, 2021, 10:49:14 PM
i haven't seen all of the films but even though part 2 isn't a favorite film i enjoy the hell out of it and have seen it many times, i also enjoy predators (2018)  ya know funny thing i bought that on blu-ray a couple years back it was like $10 bucks at wallmart i didn't think at all which one it was cause the cover was a bit similar to the original film ya know? so i thought that was it and i didn't look at the cast list well i watched it a few months ago cause i had put it off for the longest time cause all i heard how bad it is so i went in with really i mean really low expectations for it and i ended up loving it i didn't expect that

i mean it's not as good as the Original none of them are but it's still a lot of fun


Title: Re: Predator and Predator 2
Post by: KaseyBear on July 02, 2021, 07:52:24 AM
Why both of them are bad?
The second one is terrible, I agree. But first is masterpeace


Title: Re: Predator and Predator 2
Post by: pennywise37 on July 02, 2021, 10:11:45 PM
i don't think the 2nd one is awful it's just missing something and that's prolly Arnold lol.  if i recall hearing that the last one he was going to do but when they said it was going to be just a cameo at the end of it he turned it down  as if he was going to go back to that role he wanted i think to be the lead and that makes sense to me. i just hope he at some point does come back to it. i'd also love that Sequel to True Lies to happen and it nearly did but than he was elected & i think it was in pre-preduction actually