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Title: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: Trekkie313 on June 03, 2011, 11:17:17 AM
Anyone here ever hear so much hype or get their expectations to high for a popular B-movie?

I watched Sleepaway Camp and The Beyond, and I hate to say it...I was disappointed.


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: claws on June 03, 2011, 11:31:05 AM
Howard The Duck for me. It's boring, dull and silly without redeeming fun cheese in my opinion.

Xanadu. As a bad movie lover, this didn't do much for me. I don't hate it, but I prefer Can't Stop the Music for laughs and giggles.


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: zombie no.one on June 03, 2011, 11:52:25 AM
probably Starship Troopers for me. everyone's like "omg you've gotta see it, it's so bad it's great omg!!" but I just found it boring  :bluesad:

I watched Sleepaway Camp and The Beyond, and I hate to say it...I was disappointed.
I liked Sleepaway Camp. it wasn't amazing but had just enough story and tension to keep me interested (plus the shock ending  :buggedout:)

also it seems to have the youngest ever actors in a slasher movie(?) they all seem about 11-12!


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: Olivia Bauer on June 03, 2011, 12:50:15 PM
Hangover Part II - It had it's moments but mostly it wasn't even HALF as funny as the first one.

Twilight -
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Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: voltron on June 03, 2011, 05:12:22 PM
Anyone here ever hear so much hype or get their expectations to high for a popular B-movie?

I watched Sleepaway Camp and The Beyond, and I hate to say it...I was disappointed.

I really love Sleepaway Camp and it's sequels. They're a fun wath if you ask me. But I do agree with you about The Beyond - Fulci's "materpiece" as it's known - to me it just seemed like any average spaghetti horror movie. I do strongly reccommend you check out Don't Torture A Duckling, however. You'd never guess it was a Fulci movie, it's just that good.


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: lester1/2jr on June 03, 2011, 05:25:42 PM
I also really like Sleepaway Camp.

NIght of the Lepus which is somehow on TCM tonight p**ses me off for some reason. it's so stupid! it's just bunnies!


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: Criswell on June 03, 2011, 06:04:53 PM
I don't get all the attention that The Room gets, I mean its funny but its way over hyped as a bad movie. Also it just annoys me that people declare it one of the worst movies ever... Yeah they'd lose their sanity if they watched one of the movies from a Mill Creek pack that has 4 votes on Imdb.


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: Trekkie313 on June 03, 2011, 11:04:48 PM
The Room is more unintentionally awkward than flat-out bad, unlike After Last Season where nothing happens, its boring and the sets are f**king hallways! That cost more than The Room


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: Dr. Whom on June 04, 2011, 02:50:34 AM


NIght of the Lepus which is somehow on TCM tonight p**ses me off for some reason. it's so stupid! it's just bunnies!

That is the whole point!


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: crackers on June 04, 2011, 05:38:07 AM
I love all the Sleepaway Camp films including Return To Sleepaway Camp and love the fact it has actors from the first movie back as their characters.


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: Psycho Circus on June 04, 2011, 05:43:48 AM
I'm another Sleepaway Camp lover. The first one just has a creepy vibe running throughout it and is fairly decent seeing as it is yet another campsite slasher. Plus, as everyone always says, the ending is just freakin' great! As for the sequels, I enjoyed them a lot, good trashy late 80s horror with killer soundtracks.


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: Jack on June 04, 2011, 06:25:30 AM
Suspiria is tremendously overhyped.  No acting, no story, and the ending is straight out of a SyFy Original movie.  Sure it's got two or three scenes that are pretty, but that really doesn't constitute a great movie for me.  Argento is nothing more than a cinematographer, and it really shows because the movie quite simply doesn't have a director.  A long time ago on a (very serious) horror site they were doing a poll of the most overrated movie ever.  I suggested Suspiria and the idea caught on, as it won first place.  There were people threatening to leave the site over that  :lookingup:  It's just soooo typical.

The Sleepaway Camp movies never did much for me.  The first one is like an R-rated version of The Bad News Bears.  The two sequels - having the killer as the main character and making it kind of funny just doesn't work for me. 


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: Mr. DS on June 04, 2011, 06:55:10 AM
Blood Feast, maybe revolutionary for it's day but it doesn't really stand up. 

I'll add in a whole lot of Troma and Full Moon stuff into this category. 


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: venomx on June 04, 2011, 08:48:58 AM
This topic reminds me. I still need to watch Zombie Holocaust (1980). :twirl:

I hope it's NOT an 'overhyped B movie'. I mean the trailer looks 'bloody' cool.


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: akiratubo on June 04, 2011, 08:53:52 AM
Most Argento and Fulci films.  I have no clue how they got such reputations as they have, their movies are dull beyond endurance.

Killer Klowns from Outer Space.  Made the most of its budget, I'll give it that, but it just wasn't very good.  The two comic relief guys could have brought down a much, much better movie all by themselves.


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: zombie no.one on June 04, 2011, 09:40:38 AM
I'm kind of split on Argento. Deep Red is one of my top 10 films, he's done some awful stuff as well though. I agree with Jack about Suspiria. Inferno was also boring to me. Terror At The Opera kicked ass. Tenebrae had its moments. Avoid 'The Card Player' at all costs! now I hear he's directing 'Dracula 3D'...


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: Trekkie313 on June 04, 2011, 10:11:47 AM
I'm confused are we talking about "mainstream movies" or movies that are generally considered B or bad movies?


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: zombie no.one on June 04, 2011, 12:11:59 PM
well yeah I suppose the argento films are not really considered 'bad movies' in the traditional sense...


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: El Misfit on June 04, 2011, 06:18:48 PM
Leonard Part 6- I heard that it is the worst movie ever, but I found it to be fun to watch, found it as unintentional parody.


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: diamondwaspvenom on June 04, 2011, 06:45:49 PM
The Puppet Master franchise. Honestly, the only good ones were Part II and Toulon's Revenge. The rest are just forgettable bores.

Charles Band, please let this franchise die already!!


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: crackers on June 05, 2011, 04:47:06 AM
I have a difference of opinion here with a few of you, but each to there own.

diamondwaspvenom - is your avatar the singer from Ghost?


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: Psycho Circus on June 05, 2011, 05:43:43 AM
The Puppet Master franchise. Honestly, the only good ones were Part II and Toulon's Revenge. The rest are just forgettable bores.

Charles Band, please let this franchise die already!!

I'll second that. I don't care for any of the Puppet Master films, but they seem to have quite a cult following.


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: diamondwaspvenom on June 05, 2011, 06:33:51 AM
diamondwaspvenom - is your avatar the singer from Ghost?

Yes. Yes it is.  :smile:


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: crackers on June 05, 2011, 11:46:10 AM
diamondwaspvenom - is your avatar the singer from Ghost?

Yes. Yes it is.  :smile:

Good work.


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: diamondwaspvenom on June 05, 2011, 01:45:41 PM
diamondwaspvenom - is your avatar the singer from Ghost?

Yes. Yes it is.  :smile:

Good work.

Thanks.  :smile: :thumbup:

Back on topic: As much as I like the movie, I don't think that Re-Animator really deserves all the credit it gets. It's a good movie, but there are much better horror films out there.


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: spongekryst on June 05, 2011, 03:38:13 PM
Friday the 13th part 1- I always found it to be pretty bland, I prefer "The Burning".

The Room- WOW, nothing could have prepared me for that. Goes up there with Eraserhead and Begotten in the "Mindf**k your friends" section.

Phantasm 2- I love the Phantasm movies, I just don't see why this was banned/chastised/forbidden to come out on DVD for as long as it was; what's so bad about it?


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: RD on June 05, 2011, 04:04:55 PM
There are some so bad they're good troma movies and then there are so bad and it's not fun to sit through troma movies Like Sgt. Kabukiman, Troma's War, Toxie 2-3, Nukem High Sequels.

But I don't know if any of these movies really have "Hype".


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: Trekkie313 on June 05, 2011, 05:58:55 PM

Phantasm 2- I love the Phantasm movies, I just don't see why this was banned/chastised/forbidden to come out on DVD for as long as it was; what's so bad about it?

MGM released the first and last movie, Universal helped make and distributed  2 & 3l. They held onto the rights, it wasn't anything about the movie being bad.


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: Mr. DS on June 05, 2011, 08:21:51 PM
Count me in for a lot of Fulci films.  Zombi was great, all others are kind of meh and other are just bleeech....


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: zombie no.one on June 06, 2011, 01:05:49 AM
Count me in for a lot of Fulci films.  Zombi was great, all others are kind of meh and other are just bleeech....
made one of the worst films I've ever seen (The Red Monks)

but there's a few films by Fulci that are supposed to be really good. Lizard In A Woman's skin is one. I'm really into giallos atm so I'm thinking of getting it. Also New York Ripper which is just about to be released in an extended 'fan version' by Shameless, I'm thinking of getting that as well cause I like early 80s slashers, even bad ones. but I'm prepared for them to be rubbish.


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: spongekryst on June 06, 2011, 02:11:38 AM

Phantasm 2- I love the Phantasm movies, I just don't see why this was banned/chastised/forbidden to come out on DVD for as long as it was; what's so bad about it?

MGM released the first and last movie, Universal helped make and distributed  2 & 3l. They held onto the rights, it wasn't anything about the movie being bad.

Thanks for clearing that up for me. I kept hearing rumors that is was really gory and had a sex scene that bordered on NC-17. Not remembering it from when I first watched it as a little tike, I thought I'd bought a cut version.


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: melvinthemopboy3 on June 10, 2011, 10:22:15 AM
Can't believe someone would say Sleepaway Camp is overrated! It's one of the all time great slasher flicks. Better than Friday the 13th, in my opinion. The ending is classic!

I will, however, second the hate on Phantasm 2. Seriously, that movie was just bland. The first one is such a surreal, different movie. They just jettisoned all of that feeling with the second part.


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: voltron on June 10, 2011, 03:09:50 PM
I wouldn't call it "overhyped" because it's kinda obscure, but I was really let down with Jess Franco's Bloody Moon. It's a pitiful example of the slasher craze that went on the the early 80s only with a bit of that Italian flare. I should've been knocked on my ass by this one (slasher+Italy= well, it sure SOUNDS awesome), but it was just unbelievably painful to sit through. I shoud've just listened to Justin at Hysteria Lives and avoided it alltogether.


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: lester1/2jr on June 10, 2011, 03:10:51 PM
Troma in general


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: 66Crush on June 10, 2011, 08:46:58 PM
I thought "The Grudge" didn't live up to the hype. It did have a great creepy atmosphere. But it was promoted as a truly terrifing movie, instead of an intense thriller. SMG is a great actress and it was well written and very intense. But it was advertised as gore fest. Now I'm not saying a movie has to be gory to be sacry, that's not the case at all. I think being a remake of an asian film and having the same director, caused the film to not adapt as well to an american audience. Asian filmaker's are better at that creepy kind of film making and us americans have gotten used to all the fast paced gore. I think the same thing happend with "Pulse," which is a cinematicly beautiful film, with another great actress (Kristen Bell). But it was very weak considering the way it was marketed. Although "The Grudge" was a hit and "Pulse" wasn't, I think they both fell short.


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: claws on June 11, 2011, 01:30:35 AM
I thought "The Grudge" didn't live up to the hype. It did have a great creepy atmosphere. But it was promoted as a truly terrifing movie, instead of an intense thriller. SMG is a great actress and it was well written and very intense. But it was advertised as gore fest. Now I'm not saying a movie has to be gory to be sacry, that's not the case at all. I think being a remake of an asian film and having the same director, caused the film to not adapt as well to an american audience.

I'm not saying The Grudge is a great movie but it was a crowd pleaser. At least in our theater. The audience was screaming like in the good old days.
And yeah, The Grudge really benefits from the unrated version, adding more nasty bits.


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: crackers on June 11, 2011, 07:00:41 AM
Can't believe someone would say Sleepaway Camp is overrated! It's one of the all time great slasher flicks. Better than Friday the 13th, in my opinion. The ending is classic!



Well said although I'm not sure its better that Friday 13th, but still one of my favorites.


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: Trekkie313 on June 11, 2011, 10:37:50 PM
Can't believe someone would say Sleepaway Camp is overrated! It's one of the all time great slasher flicks. Better than Friday the 13th, in my opinion. The ending is classic!

I will, however, second the hate on Phantasm 2.

 :hatred:


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: Psycho Circus on June 12, 2011, 05:49:06 AM
I will third the hate on Phantasm II, it was a total let down after the genuine weirdness, creepiness of the first film. It's watchable but it just gets "too" corny for me even though it's trying hard to be a good late 80s horror and the fact that they had more of a budget. I'd say I like it more than III and IV though, easily.


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: Jack on June 12, 2011, 06:30:39 AM
Shawn of the Dead.  Was that supposed to be "funny"?  It was just some slackers being slackers.  Not so much as a hint of cleverness in the entire thing. 

Scream.  I made it about 20 minutes in, until I wanted to kill the main characters myself.  How can people sit through stuff like that? 

I thought The Grudge was pretty good, but every single person I talked to said "Oh, you've gotta see Ju-on, it's way way better than the the American remake."  You can add Ju-on to my list of massively overhyped movies.  I made it about a half hour in, until something scary appeared on screen and our main character just tipped over and fainted.  Fade to next scene.  Up until then it was like a Japanese soap opera with some of the worst acting I've ever seen.



Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: Psycho Circus on June 12, 2011, 06:35:45 AM
Shawn of the Dead.  Was that supposed to be "funny"?  It was just some slackers being slackers.  Not so much as a hint of cleverness in the entire thing. 

Scream.  I made it about 20 minutes in, until I wanted to kill the main characters myself.  How can people sit through stuff like that? 

Oh yeah, I don't like either. I thought Scream was dumb and obnoxious. Shaun Of The Dead didn't make me laugh once and I blame it for starting up this ridiculous out of control zombie craze in the media.


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: zombie no.one on June 12, 2011, 08:27:48 AM
I'm a big fan of Simon Pegg/Nick Frost's sitcom Spaced and I thought Shaun Of The Dead was a continuation of that type of humour, as was Hot Fuzz...

@Circus and Jack what did you make of Hot Fuzz, just out of interest

agreed about Scream I thought that was really average, and not just overhyped but also over-analyzed. it's nowhere near as clever or 'groundbreaking' as critics said it was


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: Psycho Circus on June 12, 2011, 08:32:38 AM
I'm a big fan of Simon Pegg/Nick Frost's sitcom Spaced and I thought Shaun Of The Dead was a continuation of that type of humour, as was Hot Fuzz...

@Circus and Jack what did you make of Hot Fuzz, just out of interest

I did like Spaced. I thought that was the best thing they did, but I disliked Hot Fuzz even more than Shaun Of The Dead.


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: zombie no.one on June 12, 2011, 09:16:01 AM
interesting, I've never heard anyone say they liked Spaced but doesn't like those 2 films! oh well...


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: diamondwaspvenom on June 12, 2011, 10:03:44 AM
Shawn of the Dead.  Was that supposed to be "funny"?  It was just some slackers being slackers.  Not so much as a hint of cleverness in the entire thing. 


Until now, I thought that I was the only one who really didn't care for this movie.


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: bob on June 12, 2011, 05:14:38 PM
the Lord of the Rings films


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: diamondwaspvenom on June 12, 2011, 06:56:30 PM
Okay, I'm probably gonna get my ass kicked for this, but I'll say it anyway:

Despite its reputation, I really don't think that Troll 2 deserves all the hype that it gets. Yes, the acting/special FX/music are hilariously cheesy and the movie itself is fun, but compared to other b-movies such as Plan 9, Toxic Avenger and Attack of the Killer Tomatoes, it falls flat on its face. I think I'm in the minority when I say that it is not the best worst movie as so many claim.


There, I said it. (Ducks in cover)


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: Criswell on June 12, 2011, 10:57:01 PM
I'm confused is this thread about Bad low budget movies that people like us like or about big budget films you don't care for. I honestly don't know what we're supposed to talk about on here anymore.  :buggedout:


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: claws on June 13, 2011, 12:04:17 AM
Okay, I'm probably gonna get my ass kicked for this, but I'll say it anyway:

Despite its reputation, I really don't think that Troll 2 deserves all the hype that it gets. Yes, the acting/special FX/music are hilariously cheesy and the movie itself is fun, but compared to other b-movies such as Plan 9, Toxic Avenger and Attack of the Killer Tomatoes, it falls flat on its face. I think I'm in the minority when I say that it is not the best worst movie as so many claim.


There, I said it. (Ducks in cover)

You are not alone. I know quite a few bad movie lovers who dislike/hate Troll 2. However, I wouldn't really compare Troll 2 with Toxic Avenger. Toxie is in an entire different league because the badness was obviously intentional. Troll 2 was made as a "serious" movie and failed miserably, but is a winner because of unintentional hilarity. Of course not everybody shares the same kind of humor so its understandable that Troll 2 is disliked by many.


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: Criswell on June 13, 2011, 06:55:07 AM
I honestly can't believe Troll 2 was filmed as a serious movie. Something had to of been going on we don't know about behind the scenes.


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: melvinthemopboy3 on June 14, 2011, 10:37:50 AM
If you watch the documentary, Best Worst Movie, that came out last year, you'll realize why the movie came out so terribly. The director, who was Italian, just didn't have a good grasp of the English language, so when he wrote the script and would direct dialogue scenes, he did it like he thought Americans looked and acted. This explains the weird vibe surrounding Troll 2. It seems genuine to me, though.


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: Trekkie313 on June 14, 2011, 11:25:26 PM
I think we've gone way off topic. I started this topic about discussing movies that are universally considered to be "bad" and "b-movie" fodder, yet don't live up to their hype or legend.
Not personal opinions about what mainstream movies you thought were bad. 


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: diamondwaspvenom on June 19, 2011, 12:50:01 PM
If there's one b-movie that's incredibly overhyped, it's The Crawling Eye. After hearing it be praised by b-movie fanatics, I decided to give it a chance. I tried to watch it and it took me at least three tries to make it through. Even the MST3K version couldn't save it (Joel and the Bots even sound bored with the movie). The only thing I agree with the fans is with their statements about the eye creatures. They are pretty awesome looking monsters. The rest of this movie is overwhelmingly dull, boring, half-assed and uninteresting.


Title: Re: Massively Overhyped Bad Movies
Post by: BoyScoutKevin on June 22, 2011, 02:28:48 PM
If you watch the documentary, Best Worst Movie, that came out last year, you'll realize why the movie came out so terribly. The director, who was Italian, just didn't have a good grasp of the English language, so when he wrote the script and would direct dialogue scenes, he did it like he thought Americans looked and acted. This explains the weird vibe surrounding Troll 2. It seems genuine to me, though.

If you watch the seduction scene in "Troll 2," then watch the seduction scene in "Lair of the White Worm," you'll notice that the director of "Troll 2" did not only not have a grasp of the English language, he did not have a grasp of how to use a camera or how to edit a scene to best effect. Other then that, I find "Troll 2' (still have not seen the documentary) surprisingly watchable. There are other films out there I hate much worst.