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Title: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: Alex on June 02, 2015, 02:55:20 AM Quote After audiences hurried to see disaster strike in blockbuster San Andreas - it snagged $54 million at the box office over the weekend - it seems as if leading man Dwayne Johnson is heading back to California for his next adventure. According to The Wrap, Johnson is “in negotiations” to star in and produce a remake of John Carpenter’s action caper Big Trouble In Little China over at Fox. Should he iron out a deal to play Jack Burton, he’ll be working from a script by X-Men: First Class writers Zack Stentz and Ashley Miller. The pair have already signed on to script the remake. The original was released in 1982 and starred Kurt Russell as a truck driver who becomes embroiled in an ancient battle that takes place in San Francisco’s Chinatown. While initially it was labelled a box office flop, the film has since firmly established itself as a cult classic. Part sci-fi, part-horror, and all-action it’s a brilliant Carpenter title from his ‘80s heyday and well worth a re-watch. So part of me is thinking "Oh hell no!", but the other part of me is thinking, well maybe... if anyone can pull it off... Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: etmoviesb on June 02, 2015, 04:54:52 AM Seeing how good Mad Max seems to be, maybe they can pull it off.
Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: Trevor on June 02, 2015, 05:54:12 AM Oy: next thing you know, they'll remake John Carpenter's Prince Of Darkness with me playing the lead role. :tongueout: :twirl:
Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: Newt on June 02, 2015, 07:02:14 AM So part of me is thinking "Oh hell no!", but the other part of me is thinking, well maybe... if anyone can pull it off... Same for me. Maybe. Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: Jack on June 02, 2015, 07:06:14 AM Can't imagine that without Kurt Russell.
Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: Flangepart on June 02, 2015, 07:21:54 AM Why? Seriously, why? If they wanna, just re-do some FX like the space scenes in ST/TOS. I liked that. I like the Rock as an actor...but BTILC?
Oy... Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: Alex on June 02, 2015, 07:40:08 AM Just on a side note, I generally get round to listening to commentary tracks on DVD's at some point. Some of the best ones I've listened to were between Kurt Russell and John Carpenter on this and Escape From New York. They tend to wander completely off topic and chat about random things like old friends catching up.
I am alternating between feeling well thats going to be a pile of suck, and thinking well Dwayne does have plenty of charisma, but (assuming they make it in more or less the same way as the original), can he play a hero who is actually pretty useless at being a hero, or will they make it a more straight laced action film. Offhand I can't think of any roles he has played so far that go into that kind of territory (unless maybe you count The Tooth Fairy?). Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: Dr. Whom on June 02, 2015, 07:43:11 AM I doubt it. It worked because Kurt Russell's character was essentially the comic relief sidekick, and he played it absolutely as the hero. I doubt whether the present day studios will greenlight such a subversive take on the genre. Most likely they will try to turn it into straight up action movie with a wisecracking hero and all will be lost.
Will Kim Cattrall reprise her role, I wonder? Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: Newt on June 02, 2015, 08:55:00 AM I agree: it won't come off well at all if they cannot capture the same 'tone' as the first. I can picture Dwayne Johnson doing it justice...given a chance.
Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: ulthar on June 02, 2015, 09:28:51 AM Man, a lot of Carpenter's films have been remade or slated for remakes.
My question is "Why do people think they need to be 'updated'?" I mean, they have followings for a REASON. I guess part of the blame lies on the misconception that a movie's visuals make the movie...that those 80's looks are passe and that's what needs to be updated. But Carpenter in the 80's made films that transcend the visuals. Carpenter was a tremendous film maker back in the day who was, as cliched as it sounds, ahead of his time. I just view all these rehashings as perhaps an art lover would view a child's stick-figure drawing of The Mona Lisa. They might be cute, but they will NEVER even approach the level of the base work. Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: messedup on June 02, 2015, 11:27:05 AM Why not make a sequel with Russell? If Stallone can still play Rambo, Arnie can still play Terminator or Ford can still play Indy or Han Solo (kinda) I don't see why Russell couldn't.
But I honestly don't think I would mind seeing Dwayne in a remake if done right. Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: Dr. Whom on June 02, 2015, 11:56:47 AM A sequel would make more sense, as has been shown by Mad Max. I wouldn't mind Dwayne Johnson in it as well, but, for me, someone like Ryan Kwanten would be more suited. He has the ability to be heroic and completely baffled at the same time.
Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: Bushma on June 02, 2015, 12:02:03 PM (http://cdn.squares.im/brony/pic/user/3286.jpg)
Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: BoyScoutKevin on June 02, 2015, 01:51:39 PM Almost every time someone remakes a film, I save some money, because I have little or no interest in seeing most remakes, especially, as in this case, I saw the original. Though, now might be time to remake it, because the original one was a film seemingly ahead of its time. While it cost $25 million, low by today's standards, to make, it grossed only $11 million at the U.S. box office, and I presume it grossed an equal amount or less in the international box office. Thus, it was apparently a film that cost more to make than it recovered at the box office. Of course, that does not include TV, where I saw it, rights and DVD and video sales.
Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: ChaosTheory on June 02, 2015, 03:02:16 PM Would I like to see The Rock star in an offbeat action comedy? Absolutely.
Should that offbeat action comedy be a remake of BTiLC? Most definitely NOT. Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: etmoviesb on June 02, 2015, 08:54:25 PM Would I like to see The Rock star in an offbeat action comedy? Absolutely. You nailed it.Should that offbeat action comedy be a remake of BTiLC? Most definitely NOT. I like The Rock, I think BTiLC main character role is where he shines most. "Strong man in a strange situation he cannot really understand fully," but what the heck. Why a remake, make a new movie. Just state as objective: a kungfu comedy like in the golden age of cinema, the '80, with The Rock coming in and saving the day. Of course your movie will share similarities with other, but where is the problem... Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: ulthar on June 02, 2015, 09:01:41 PM Why a remake, make a new movie. Just state as objective: a kungfu comedy like in the golden age of cinema, the '80, with The Rock coming in and saving the day. Of course your movie will share similarities with other, but where is the problem... You raise an excellent point. Why not just make a new movie that pays homage to not only BTiLC but any other films in the genre that one seeks to honor? Why the need to attempt "remake?" There are a 1000 ways Johnson could make a killer film out of this kind of idea, but as a remake, his project will be stained by the "remake" label always and forever. Even if it is good on its own merits, there are some that will never give it a proper, objective chance. I may well be in that group. (I've not seen the remakes of ANY of Carpenter's movies). Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: JaseSF on June 02, 2015, 11:40:47 PM It could be good but it'll never match the original.
Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: Allhallowsday on June 02, 2015, 11:59:11 PM I love the original, like a bag of candy. It's a favorite though I've not seen it in years and do not own any copy. I don't think it's good for your teeth either. :teddyr:
Man, a lot of Carpenter's films have been remade or slated for remakes. I was going to ask... why ??? :question:My question is "Why do people think they need to be 'updated'?" I mean, they have followings for a REASON. I guess part of the blame lies on the misconception that a movie's visuals make the movie...that those 80's looks are passe and that's what needs to be updated. But Carpenter in the 80's made films that transcend the visuals. He did? I mean... He did!! Carpenter was a tremendous film maker back in the day who was, as cliched as it sounds, ahead of his time. I just view all these rehashings as perhaps an art lover would view a child's stick-figure drawing of The Mona Lisa. They might be cute, but they will NEVER even approach the level of the base work. :wink: :question: :smile:Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: Flangepart on June 03, 2015, 07:44:51 AM Here's what they should do.
Cast Russel as an older, yet only a little less clueless hero, and the film opens with him running his own trucking company...and he has the hide of the monster he found on his rig at the end of the original, mounted on the wall. "Where did you get that?" "Killed it myself." "Gun or knife?" "Truck. Dumb bastich got in front of me in the I-35." "You ran him over while still driving on the freeway?" "It's all in the reflexes, kid." Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: etmoviesb on June 03, 2015, 10:39:35 AM Very fun idea.
After the movie I was imaging something different, Russel character actually using the monster as antitheft system. Of course the monster needs food, so sometime he says: I am kinda worried, I have some valuables in the truck... So food arrives to the monster naturally. Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: Rev. Powell on June 03, 2015, 01:38:32 PM Why not just make a new movie that pays homage to not only BTiLC but any other films in the genre that one seeks to honor? Why the need to attempt "remake?" $$$$$$$$$ I'm sure there are plenty of unproduced scripts based on original ideas running around Hollywood. However, studios can only take a gamble on so many of these a year. Remakes and sequels make money because the built-in audience goes to see them, that's all there is to it. Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: Skull on June 04, 2015, 06:07:28 AM I wonder if they are going to remake the story and then used the original script... From what I understand, Big Trouble in Little China was supposed to be a western and John Carpenter couldn't get the money for the budget.
Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: Alex on June 04, 2015, 07:05:00 AM Just heard that Disney are now going to remake Sister Act, although my thought on that one was "Meh". I did used to wonder why instead of taking good movies and remaking them as bad ones, why didn't anyone try taking a bad movie and improving on it. Then the remake of My Bloody Valentine came out and I've never asked that question again.
Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: BoyScoutKevin on June 04, 2015, 02:41:32 PM Just heard that Disney are now going to remake Sister Act, although my thought on that one was "Meh". I did used to wonder why instead of taking good movies and remaking them as bad ones, why didn't anyone try taking a bad movie and improving on it. Then the remake of My Bloody Valentine came out and I've never asked that question again. You and director John Huston. He was always dissatisfied with his "Roots of Heaven" (1958,) and he always wanted to remake it, but . . .?! As far as I know, he never did. I have seen it, on TV, and I quite enjoyed it. As for "Sister Act," it spawned a sequel "Sister Act 2 : Back in the Habit," an year later. It has also spawned a stage version. I saw the sequel, but I have never seen the stage version, even though it came to the city in which I live. Thus . . .?! Why not a remake, especially as the Walt Disney Company is remaking many of its animated classics, as live action films, or a combination of animation and live action. Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: etmoviesb on June 04, 2015, 08:44:47 PM [...]try taking a bad movie and improving on it. Then the remake of My Bloody Valentine came out and I've never asked that question again. I did not see the original or the remake. Can you give me some context?Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: Alex on June 05, 2015, 06:32:27 AM Its a stalk and slash, and if I can remember everything correctly with the premise the murders were triggered by a cave in at a mine on Valentines Day. The one survivor took to killing anyone from the town who celebrated Valentines Day. I can't remember if this was in the orginal but in the remake ****SPOILER ALERT**** its actually the 'hero' who is doing the killing via a multiple personality type disorder.
Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: Alex on June 10, 2015, 05:18:27 AM I'd like to see John Carpenter involved. But then I'd like to see him back at the height of his directoral powers.
Quote Last week it was announced that Dwayne Johnson is set to star in a remake of Big Trouble In Little China, and now the action hero has revealed that there are plans afoot to get original director John Carpenter involved in some capacity… "I loved reading the reactions from the fans, that they were so polarised," says Johnson in an interview with Entertainment Weekly. "I’m the same way. My response is: know that I come to the project with nothing but love and respect for the original, which is why we want to bring on John Carpenter." "It felt like if we surrounded ourselves with the right group of people, the right writers who loved the movie too and wanted to honour it, bring on John Carpenter in some capacity … If we did that, then we have a shot at hopefully making something good. Let’s see what feels good, what we can come up with and then go from there. As we write it, if the whole thing starts to stink up, then we thank everybody for their efforts and accept this just couldn’t make it." Carpenter recently commented that he was not involved with the remake, although it might be the case that an official approach has still to be made. Ashley Miller and Zack Stentz are currently hard at work on a script, with a release date yet to be announced. Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: etmoviesb on June 10, 2015, 05:52:15 AM [...] but as a remake, his project will be stained by the "remake" label always and forever. Even if it is good on its own merits, there are some that will never give it a proper, objective chance. It could be good but it'll never match the original. Ehehe... Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: Archivist on June 14, 2015, 09:53:49 PM It's not Big Trouble without Kurt Russell!
This is one of the few movies of my childhood that I do not have on DVD or blu-ray. Will have to remedy that very soon! Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: Jim H on June 15, 2015, 05:37:10 PM Man, a lot of Carpenter's films have been remade or slated for remakes. My question is "Why do people think they need to be 'updated'?" I mean, they have followings for a REASON. I guess part of the blame lies on the misconception that a movie's visuals make the movie...that those 80's looks are passe and that's what needs to be updated. But Carpenter in the 80's made films that transcend the visuals. Carpenter was a tremendous film maker back in the day who was, as cliched as it sounds, ahead of his time. I just view all these rehashings as perhaps an art lover would view a child's stick-figure drawing of The Mona Lisa. They might be cute, but they will NEVER even approach the level of the base work. What's interesting is in some ways, the visuals are actually more in than say 10 or 15 years ago. The retro 80s visual thing is quite popular, see things like Kavinsky, Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon, Drive, or Kung Fury. Ya know what I think actually has legit promise but will never happen? A sequel to Big Trouble, with an old Jack Burton who thinks he still has it. Spoilers: he doesn't. Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: etmoviesb on June 15, 2015, 08:33:09 PM Well, it worked with Expendables. And I still dream a Army of Darkness II with grandpa Ash...
Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: Jim H on June 15, 2015, 09:53:47 PM Well, it worked with Expendables. And I still dream a Army of Darkness II with grandpa Ash... You do know they're filming a TV series for Starz, with Bruce Campbell starring and Sam Raimi directing/writing the first episode? Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: etmoviesb on June 16, 2015, 02:41:45 AM [...] with Bruce Campbell starring and Sam Raimi directing/writing the first episode? Did not know, but sounds good!Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: Jim H on June 21, 2015, 06:45:40 PM [...] with Bruce Campbell starring and Sam Raimi directing/writing the first episode? Did not know, but sounds good! http://screencrush.com/ash-vs-evil-dead-photo-details-bruce-cambell-sam-raimi/ (http://screencrush.com/ash-vs-evil-dead-photo-details-bruce-cambell-sam-raimi/) An article on it, Oldsmobile photo. Title: Re: Remake of Big Trouble In Little China. Post by: etmoviesb on June 22, 2015, 04:56:21 AM Quote [Ash Vs. Evil Dead] doesn’t really exist in the exact same universe. It’s a slightly altered universe[...] Sounds good, it is actually the same of the three original movies if you do not want to look for very abstruse backstories. |