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Title: FREDRIC MARCH Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1931 film)
Post by: Allhallowsday on March 06, 2019, 02:46:15 PM
Every time the FREDRIC MARCH DR. JEKYLL AND MR. HYDE (1931) version is on TCM also with MIRIAM HOPKINS I watch it (last night).  FREDRIC MARCH is always good (if though the films might be meh) that HYDE of his is THE ONE, that makeup, the pre-code details of the plot... sex sex sex... MIRIAM HOPKINS is not a good girl... HYDE kissing her, the one bed, THEIR ROOM, his hideous but completely believable appearance, WOW that version is still mesmerizing and horrifying.  COOL.  


http://youtu.be/YV6l8EFIFJM (http://youtu.be/YV6l8EFIFJM)  



Title: Re: FREDRIC MARCH Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1931 film)
Post by: Rev. Powell on March 06, 2019, 03:09:39 PM
March is the best HYDE, though I don't hate Spencer Tracy's rendition as much as everyone else seems to.


Title: Re: FREDRIC MARCH Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1931 film)
Post by: Allhallowsday on March 06, 2019, 03:30:22 PM
March is the best HYDE, though I don't hate Spencer Tracy's rendition as much as everyone else seems to.
There's things to like about SPENCER TRACY's version, but he is a bit hammy WITHOUT great makeup.  Plus, TRACY's version is much tamer than the MARCH version; in fact, it's corny.  The MARCH version sidesteps corn with loathsome lewdness. 


Title: Re: FREDRIC MARCH Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1931 film)
Post by: RCMerchant on March 06, 2019, 03:59:01 PM
The March Hyde was kept from the public for almost 40 years (!) because MGM bought all the rights to the '31 film, thus keeping it "lost".  I myself think the Tracy version is terribly boring.
 As was the Claude Rains' PHANTOM OF THE OPERA.


Title: Re: FREDRIC MARCH Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1931 film)
Post by: Rev. Powell on March 06, 2019, 06:58:46 PM
March is the best HYDE, though I don't hate Spencer Tracy's rendition as much as everyone else seems to.

There's things to like about SPENCER TRACY's version, but he is a bit hammy WITHOUT great makeup.  Plus, TRACY's version is much tamer than the MARCH version; in fact, it's corny.  The MARCH version sidesteps corn with loathsome lewdness. 


That's true, but there are a couple of suggestive sequences:

http://youtu.be/4z93ckeSzXE (http://youtu.be/4z93ckeSzXE)

The pre-code version is unquestionably better, but I don't think the 1941 version is quite as bad as its reputation.


Title: Re: FREDRIC MARCH Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1931 film)
Post by: Allhallowsday on March 06, 2019, 10:08:19 PM
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The pre-code version is unquestionably better, but I don't think the 1941 version is quite as bad as its reputation.
The 1941 version does have INGRID BERGMAN.  MIRIAM HOPKINS is perfect for the part in 1931, the best she ever got (not playin' a rat) and all of the actors are theatrical within which her histrionics are perfect... but, INGRID BERGMAN brings a real pathos to Ivy in her few short 1941 scenes.  1941 also has LANA TURNER.   :lookingup: 


The March Hyde was kept from the public for almost 40 years (!) because MGM bought all the rights to the '31 film, thus keeping it "lost".  I myself think the Tracy version is terribly boring.
 As was the Claude Rains' PHANTOM OF THE OPERA.
I do recall hearing about the buy up or something of prints of the 1931... it's definitely too racy for any of the many other monster movies I saw on TV broadcast back in the '60s and '70s... about the same time you were doing the same thing!  I also read Famous Monsters when I could grab a copy or afford one... (not often)...


Title: Re: FREDRIC MARCH Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1931 film)
Post by: RCMerchant on March 07, 2019, 03:30:10 AM
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The pre-code version is unquestionably better, but I don't think the 1941 version is quite as bad as its reputation.
The 1941 version does have INGRID BERGMAN.  MIRIAM HOPKINS is perfect for the part in 1931, the best she ever got (not playin' a rat) and all of the actors are theatrical within which her histrionics are perfect... but, INGRID BERGMAN brings a real pathos to Ivy in her few short 1941 scenes.  1941 also has LANA TURNER.   :lookingup: 


The March Hyde was kept from the public for almost 40 years (!) because MGM bought all the rights to the '31 film, thus keeping it "lost".  I myself think the Tracy version is terribly boring.
 As was the Claude Rains' PHANTOM OF THE OPERA.
I do recall hearing about the buy up or something of prints of the 1931... it's definitely too racy for any of the many other monster movies I saw on TV broadcast back in the '60s and '70s... about the same time you were doing the same thing!  I also read Famous Monsters when I could grab a copy or afford one... (not often)...

Actually, I read it in Castle of Frankenstein magazine.  :wink:


Title: Re: FREDRIC MARCH Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1931 film)
Post by: lester1/2jr on March 07, 2019, 09:14:15 PM
awesome version even with the awful song "champagne ivy is m' naaame"


Title: Re: FREDRIC MARCH Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1931 film)
Post by: Allhallowsday on March 09, 2019, 01:09:53 AM
http://youtu.be/1gt9RRabNRY (http://youtu.be/1gt9RRabNRY)  

http://youtu.be/kZGDfiCY4bk (http://youtu.be/kZGDfiCY4bk) 



Title: Re: FREDRIC MARCH Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1931 film)
Post by: Ticonderoga 64 on March 09, 2019, 02:10:29 PM
Fredric March won an Oscar for this portrayal in film, and it was justified! Best version of the classic even after all this time.


Title: Re: FREDRIC MARCH Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1931 film)
Post by: BoyScoutKevin on March 13, 2019, 02:14:11 PM
Fredric March won an Oscar for this portrayal in film, and it was justified! Best version of the classic even after all this time.

Actially, it was a tie. One of the few ties in Oscar history. March tied with Wallace Beery, who played Andy Purcell "The Champ" in 1931's The Champ."


Title: Re: FREDRIC MARCH Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1931 film)
Post by: Allhallowsday on May 27, 2019, 10:10:45 PM
Fredric March won an Oscar for this portrayal in film, and it was justified! Best version of the classic even after all this time.

Actially, it was a tie. One of the few ties in Oscar history. March tied with Wallace Beery, who played Andy Purcell "The Champ" in 1931's The Champ."
I'm sure you're right.  I dislike WALLACE BEERY though he serves a few parts well enough. 

Last night INHERIT THE WIND was on... with BOTH of the Hydes: SPENCER TRACY and FREDRIC MARCH.  It's a great movie, but I feel that TRACY gets all of the attention, but the more masterful performance is from MARCH... 


Title: Re: FREDRIC MARCH Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1931 film)
Post by: PrettyTorius on May 30, 2019, 08:47:08 PM
Fredric March won an Oscar for this portrayal in film, and it was justified! Best version of the classic even after all this time.

Actially, it was a tie. One of the few ties in Oscar history. March tied with Wallace Beery, who played Andy Purcell "The Champ" in 1931's The Champ."

March actually one more vote than Beery


Title: Re: FREDRIC MARCH Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1931 film)
Post by: BoyScoutKevin on June 06, 2019, 07:01:29 PM
Fredric March won an Oscar for this portrayal in film, and it was justified! Best version of the classic even after all this time.

Actially, it was a tie. One of the few ties in Oscar history. March tied with Wallace Beery, who played Andy Purcell "The Champ" in 1931's The Champ."

March actually one more vote than Beery

True, but by the rules of that day, it was considered a tie, so both actors won the Oscar for Best Actor.