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I bought King Kong the other day on DVD.
I missed this film while it was showing in theaters so I figured, "What the hell?" and picked it up.

I wasn't disappointed!
Peter Jackson has outdone himself...this was a fantastic movie!
I've watched it twice so far.

You all know that Kong eventually falls from the top of the Empire State Building after being shot up pretty good by the U.S. Army Air Corp.

An enormous crowd gathers in the street around his lifeless body.

If this really happened, I think the powers that be would most definitely want him stuffed and placed in a museum in New York City.
I mean, you wouldn't want to cremate a specimen like Kong would you?

(http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/623/naomiwatts58sc.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Kong's body would be taken away and then it would fall on the top taxidermists in the city to get to work stuffing him.

I was wondering...
What would they use to haul his body off the street?
How many people would they employ to stuff him?
How long do you think it would take to get the job done?
What museum would they place him in?
If a placard were placed next to his stuffed body in the 1930's, what do you think it would really say?
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I used to date a girl while I was in high school and her father was a professional taxidermist.
He had a seperate den in their house that Ace Ventura would call, "A lovely room of death!"
This guy had stuffed almost every animal you can think of.  (well, everything except jungle animals like tigers, lions, elephants etc...)
I remember him telling me that, depending on the animal, it can take quite a while.
He had roughly around 100 animals he stuffed himself in there.
(I can close my eyes and still see that room after all these years)

More info on taxidermy:
WWW.TAXIDERMY.NET (http://www.taxidermy.net/)

What do you think?

Eh...I just like the idea of them taking chainsaws to him and cutting him up to feed the homeless...but that's just me...

I was also wondering:
What pose would they put him in?

Roaring with his arms above his head?
Or forearms forward, mouth closed & knuckles down?

I always wonder why he's in such good shape after taking that high a fall. Don't you think he'd be pretty busted up and there would be gallons of blood everywhere on the street?

I posted in the 'Recent Viewings' thread that I had watched it myself lastnight.

Well, if they can't save the whole body, major orgins would go into huge jars, and the skeleton would surely become the hit of the town.
The tourists dollars would help pay for the repairs to the city, don't 'cha know...

The skeleton could probably be reconstructed for a museum ubt I think most of the body would be destroyed in the fall and even if not, would be serioulsy decomposing before they could get it hauled away

I always wondered about this.  What do you do witha dead Kaiju/Kong?  A ghidora corpse has got to be pretty whiff after a while.  
-Ed

If this really happened, it would be quite messy. I can't remember now where I read it, but the physics of falling animals (or objects) is fairly straightforward: a mouse falling from a height of, say, 50 feet, would walk away because its body mass doesn't allow it to reach a high enough speed to injure it (theoretically, a mouse cannot be killed by a fall from any height for this reason). A man falling from the same height would break bones and most likely die. A horse would splash. King Kong, falling from the top of the Empire State Building, would fill the streets with enough gore to make a zombie puke. His skin wouldn't be strong enough to hold his innards in, and his skeleton would most likely be nearly pulverized. Like Fearless Freep says, Kong would be destroyed and the streets would flow with the blood of the infidels (OOPS! I mean the blood of the poor, lovestruck beast).

Sometimes, poetic license in movies is a good thing.

To get rid of the body, if it weren't already pulverized to bits, you could blow it up into smaller chunks so the birds could eat it like the Oregon highway department tried with the  Infamous Exploding Whale (http://perp.com/whale/).  

Make sure to watch the video (Quicktime required). If you haven't seen it before, be prepared for the  insuing hilarity of truth being stranger than fiction.

Couldn't they just make Kong burgers?

So, you would eat a burger made of monkey meat?

Hey the exploding whale!  That happend about an hour from here.  I was rather young at the time, and didn't live here.  But its a proud moment.  
-Ed

plan9,
have you ever eaten a hot dog from a street vendor in NYC?

I love the exploding whale...that's classic.

Back to Ash's question, accepting the unlikely situation that half of Manhattan isn't painted with Kong, I would think he'd be mounted roaring, with his arms over his head. Then he could be rented out to car dealerships for special promotions.

odinn7 Wrote:
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> I love the exploding whale...that's classic.
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> You're not the Devil...You're practice.

Classic indeed! And one of the few Greel lights given by Snopes.com. When ya got film to back it up!...Did the state ever pay the guy/gal who's car roof was smashed by the blubber chunk?
Must have been a laugh riot at the Insurance company!

I always just assumed he'd be too bullet riddled and disease ridden to be kept whole, and would just be a skeleton 'guarding' an archway in some musuem.

This is of course after all those who came in contact with him succumbed to a severe case of 'monkey-jungle-fever.'  Well that's the hope at least!

To change the topic slightly...
Did any of you notice the resemblence to the end of Titanic when Kong finally slipped off the edge of the Empire State Building?

Kong was like DiCaprio slipping into the icy water while the girl watched.

I'm with the mounted skeleton idea, but you'd need a really big hall to put it in.

So now Kong is King of the World?

ASHTHECAT Wrote:
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> To change the topic slightly...
> Did any of you notice the resemblence to the end
> of Titanic when Kong finally slipped off the edge
> of the Empire State Building?
>
> Kong was like DiCaprio slipping into the icy water
> while the girl watched.
>

Except that it was tragic when it happened to Kong  :D

AndyC Wrote:
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> ASHTHECAT Wrote:
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> -----
> > To change the topic slightly...
> > Did any of you notice the resemblence to the
> end
> > of Titanic when Kong finally slipped off the
> edge
> > of the Empire State Building?
> >
> > Kong was like DiCaprio slipping into the icy
> water
> > while the girl watched.
> >
>
> Except that it was tragic when it happened to Kong
>  


Excellent point!

What about in the Museum of Natural History of New York?

The movie DID take place in NY, after all.

odinn7 Wrote:
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> AndyC Wrote:
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> -----
> > ASHTHECAT Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > To change the topic slightly...
> > > Did any of you notice the resemblence to
> the
> > end
> > > of Titanic when Kong finally slipped off
> the
> > edge
> > > of the Empire State Building?
> > >
> > > Kong was like DiCaprio slipping into the
> icy
> > water
> > > while the girl watched.
> > >
> >
> > Except that it was tragic when it happened to
> Kong
> >  
>

The thing that cracks me up about our society is after all the sailors went through on the island, all the natives had to endure, all the abuse Kong takes throughout his movies, we're supposed to feel sorry for the blonde woman whom basically gets a front row seat to all the carnage. People are dying left and right in horrible ways and we're supposed to care if this one person becomes a dinosaur's afternoon snack.

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I know what you are talking about. The person I actually felt the most sorry for was Hayes. I honestly didn't see that coming, and thought that he would be one of the survivors.

I liked Jamie Bell's character, and I was sorry to see him go.

But, to think about it, EVERYBODY died except Carl Denham, Anne Darrow, and Kong himself (who ends up dying anyway).

dean Wrote:
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> This is of course after all those who came in
> contact with him succumbed to a severe case of
> 'monkey-jungle-fever.'  Well that's the hope at
> least!

Er.  "Jungle fever" has a different connotation than what you are thinking, at least here in the States.  I can tell you if that was the case, KING KONG would have been a VERY different movie.  Although, some of those scenes with Naomi Watts and the ape. . .

I'd like to think that Kong exploded and the people of New York took chunks of his meat and ate it.  This was during the Great Depression after all.  People were starving.  The killing of chimps and other apes for food is a growing problem in Africa.  "Bush meat", as it's called.  Pesonally, I don't think I could eat a fellow primate.  Of course, I didn't think I could eat a fellow plane passenger either, but that crash in the Andes took care of that little scruple.

Does anybody else wonder what happened to all the other giant apes?  Kong is clearly shown walking through a graveyard filled with giant ape skulls.  He's not immortal, so there must have been ancestors, which means there must have been females, social units and whatnot.  Idea for sequel.  Female ape found on island.  Named Ms. Kong, spends movie running around island eating pellets and fruit while being chased by ghosts.

Well. . . maybe not.

Mofo Rising Wrote:
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>  Idea for
> sequel.  Female ape found on island.  Named Ms.
> Kong, spends movie running around island eating
> pellets and fruit while being chased by ghosts.
>
> Well. . . maybe not.

That was already done, in "King Kong Lives".

Mofo Rising Wrote:
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> dean Wrote:
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> > This is of course after all those who came
> in
> > contact with him succumbed to a severe case
> of
> > 'monkey-jungle-fever.'  Well that's the hope
> at
> > least!
>
> Er.  "Jungle fever" has a different connotation
> than what you are thinking, at least here in the
> States.  I can tell you if that was the case, KING
> KONG would have been a VERY different movie.
> Although, some of those scenes with Naomi Watts
> and the ape. . .
>

Oh I know what I meant [hence the 'monkey' at the start,] but Kong has been, and to a degree always will be [unless they change some of the basic storylines] a story with a subtext of inter-racial romance.  That being said, succumbed is probably not the best word to have used there!

I don't think "inter-racial romance" is the best word to describe it.

"Bestiality fetish" is more like it.

plan9superfan Wrote:
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> I don't think "inter-racial romance" is the best
> word to describe it.
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> "Bestiality fetish" is more like it.


Oh yeah, you could say that on the outside, but when you consider in terms of film history King Kong's place in there, it's a very fine line.  I guess that's the point of subtext: it's not just there in plain view, but something underneath the story.

As Wes once said "King Kong got all of thse hot black women on Skull Island that are given to him, but he goes gaga for one white woman? What gives?"

Somebody earlier mentioned Kong rotting before he could be stuffed and mounted.  It was winter.  the cold would preserve the corpse.

My personal take on it was that Kong did love Ann.  She loved him as well, just not in the same way.  It was a typical Beatuy and the Beast story, where the Beast perishes through his love for Beauty.

And I was pleased to see Kong rack up a higher 'kill' count on the planes than in previous movies.  anybody else notice that all through the movie he was called just Kong, not King Kong?

Any one else conciter....that "jungle fever" might well happen?
After all, who knows what diseases his ticks and fleas would have jumped off his carcuss and went looking for new homes......