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Well Roseanne, you made that bed now lie in the f**king thing.  Sorry, but I have no sympathy for her. 

This is why some people just shouldn't social media.

I didn't especially like the original series either way, but Roseanne herself was part of the reason I refused to watch it.

If it hadn't been for the other cast members - especially John Goodman - the show never would have gotten as far as it did.

I had watched a couple of episodes of the new series and liked it OK.
But if you don't know that it is inappropriate to call/compare black people "apes" or "monkeys," you have NO place in public life in America.

Naturally some people are calling roseanne's cancellation an act of 'liberal fascism and intolerance'. Oddly mane of these people are the same one shwo wanted the dixiie chicks destroyed after speaking against DUUHbya, and kathy griffith destroyed after her bit with the trump mask.

I don't think it's right. ever since Howard Stern went of the regular airwaves people have gotten way too sensitive. She apologized. Our culture has lost the ability to show mercy to people.

Your right- Roseanne has the freedom to spout any bulls**t she wants. ABC also has the right not to sponsor her.  
And condemning racism is not being "too sensitive" or PC. It's being a human being.

(Just for the record- Howard Stern was a piece of s**t anyway.)

married with Children or all in the Family couldn't be made today.


I don't disagree they have a right to cancel her show but I don't think they should.

the ratings were good. let the people decide I say

The people did decide. The people who pay her money to represent they're product.
"Let the People decide!"?   Decide about what? about if a company should employ an idiot who is giving them bad press?
Oh yeah-Disney's Vice CEO is a black woman. Roseanne's f**king BOSS.
The "People" don't own the  company. That's insane.
TV ain't the goverment. (Trump thinks so  :lookingup:)
and lot's of "people" condemned Roseanne's tin hat paranoid crazy s**t.
She tanked herself. It was professional suicide.
I doubt she'll even get Hollywood Squares.

the point was the show had high ratings and was popular. She made a bad joke about someones appearance and apologized for it.

We have people in the media who supported the iraq war and are pushing for one with iran. I'm offended by that


freedom of speech is a principle not just a law


they could have chosen not to watch the show. now no one can


also I just read a tweet that said roseanne apparently didn't know valerie jarret was black?? thats actually not hard to believe but not sure if its true

See, for one thing, ABC hired Roseanne. Roseanne said some crazy s**t ABC didn't like. They NO LONGER WANT TO PAY HER /EMPLOY HER.
They fired her.
Now- the "people" who like the show have say so who ABC chooses to employ? People who don't pay the bills for 'ROSEANNE'?
What kinda s**t is that?  :question:


And frankly, if ABC decided not to associate with a racist- well- then GOD bless them.

the viewers do pay the bills for roseanne. the advertisers pay to reach them and if a show is popular you get more money from advertisers.

now they found some other racist tweet of hers from 1850 ugh I'm done whatever I'm done defending her

And that is why she was fired. Because the advertisers dumped her. Like a hot potato. Because she is an insane crazy woman.

When I heard about this, I remembered what she did when she sang the American national anthem in 1990, spat, screeched, grabbed her crotch etc: horrible person. If anyone did that to the South African national anthem at a stadium, they would be taken around the back and have the seven colours of sh*t kicked out of them.

I actually had an interaction with her except I didn't. I was in a discussion on twitter with other people about something involving Israel. She hopped in, admonished me, and then blocked me and continued the screed. I couldn't read any of it because she had blocked me and I only found out much later that it had happened at all.



well no they didn't have time to pull their ads from the show it was cancelled first.

The point is viewers are quite obviously the lifes blood of a show and she had them. We don't watch tv shows because the people who make them are people we perceive to not be racist, we watch them because we like them.

I have stopped watching shows though when one of the stars has done something I've not liked before, for example a talk show with a presenter who was known for very racist views. Regardless of wither I'd have liked the show or not I never watched it because I didn't want in any way to contribute to money going in his pocket. Could have been the funniest, most informative show in the history of the world and I still wouldn't have watched it.

 I can't say I've ever boycotted an advertiser because they supported a show or not, but then I tend not to pay attention to adverts anyway and wouldn't be so much aware of who was or wasn't supporting it. I have decided not to buy books or movies either written by or starring rapists and child molesters equally because (and I don't know if it actually would have given them any extra money, but I decided not to take the chance) even when its been something I've enjoyed before I knew what they were doing in real life. Thats my own choice though and I don't expect others to take the same stand as me.

I can understand why a network would act even before any advertisers had pulled their support (and who knows, perhaps there were phone calls or emails saying "Hey if you keep this person on TV, we will be pulling our money out") as they'd get a pretty bad press and no doubt lose revenue. By acting quickly they are simply engaging in damage limitation.

If enough viewers disagree and want to see more Rosanne, I'd imagine unless the show is produced in-house then any other station or online streaming service has a chance to step in, pick up the show and continue it. If Lester is right I'd imagine this is will happen, if not, well it will disappear into TV history.

In any event I think it would be hard to have continue for the people on the show.  Wanda left.  The girl who played the granddaughter had decided to quit only to call in and find out the show was cancelled.  The other cast members called her out on this and you probably would have seen some of them plotting their own exits before too long.  With the reruns of the old shows getting dropped that would put a dent in the residual income of the cast from the previous show.

Based on what I saw it wasn't just a knee jerk reaction on the part of ABC, but was a straw that broke the camel's back.  If it was an out of the blue statement from Roseanne and she had never made a public racist statement in her life maybe it could've been chalked up to something.  ABC might have stuck by her despite the backlash.  But she's been doing this for years and I think there were other incidents that made ABC decide one more and she's gone.

besides of maybe Jerry Seinfeld ,virtually all comics have a reputation for being "outrageous"

"Outrageous"  doesn't have to include "racist" .

And don't get me started about Seinfeld.

the point is this: comics by nature zero in on taboo stuff because thats whats funny so basically we can either

a. get used to be offended once in a while or
b. have unfunny comedy.

and let me add: comparing black people to apes is as low as it gets. Nazis do that. and calling women the c -word (samantha bee) is on the same level. these are our entertainers though

you know who never offended anybody? Bill Cosby! I rest my case

People are using he c word to justify going after Samantha b. The same people had no problem withnthat term being used against Hillary Clinton by ted Nugent and e makers of some pro trump t shirts.

ABC isn't a racist network. and they were right to be proactive. lester, i don't think you know what you're talking about when it comes to media advertising. most of the time if an advertiser pulls their support from a show, they pull support from the whole network. THAT is reality.

the point is it was a popular show. I would have preferred if they let it go on and if viewers no longer wanted to see it to cancel it.