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A guy I work with wants to know if there is a particular website that lists all the things that Pearl Harbor got wrong.  Only body know of any?

Boy I'd like to know that myself

Try here

Pearl Harbor: Bombed Again

The IMDB has a section for goofs.  Between the comments, goofs, and trivia, you can usually find something of interest.

The IMDB Entry


Andrew

How about the fact that nothing even closes to interesting happens for TWO FREAKING HOURS!!!

Strangely, considering the movie is two-plus hours of screw-ups and lies and goofs and gaffes and palin old shoveled-on-thick horses**t, the IMDb "goofs" page for Pearl Harbor is empty, save for three entries based on an unfinished preview print.

Perhaps there is simply too much for IMDb participants to gather all at once. My favorite: Admiral Yamamoto's "sleeping giant" line has now become psuedohistory. The line wasn't uttered until 1970, with Yamamoto long dead--in the other Pearl Harbor movie, Tora! Tora! Tora!.

"Plain old shoveled-on-thick," not "palin." No offense to Monty Python.

Recently, my mon rented PEARL HARBOR on DVD becasue her neighbour friend said it was a good movie. Well after going over the three hours of boredom like me and my friend did when we saw it in the theatre the only question my mom asked at the very end of the movie was, "I don't get it, why did the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor?" That question just goes to show that their is no history lesson in PEARL HARBOR whatsoever and I had to explain the whole reason why they bombed Pearl Harbor (Thank God for giving us history books). That and why call the film PEARL HARBOR when it's 2 and a half hours of BORING romance and only 30 to 45 minutes of the bombing at the near end (same question for Mel Gibson's THE PATRIOT when his character is after the British for revenge, NOT PATRIOTISM)

The ending was also very snubby. The end narration suggest that "We Americans did it all" to win the war. Where is the credit to the British, French, Russian, and Japanese-American's who also busted their asses to win the war for us as well? God Michael Bay, give credit where credit is due!

PEARL HARBOR is a pure example that Hollywood has always gotten an F on their history tests and that the amount of $300 million in special effects will save the movie. I think not!

Read the history books that really tell the truth and see TORA! TORA! TORA! instead.

I caught the History channel show "History Vs. Hollywood" last night. On "A Bridge Too Far", The concensus was, the film makers tried to get it right, including True Storys and events....and the critics all  said."OH, that could never happen!". Dammed if ya do.... I've not seen pearl Harbor yet, and i have a bad feeling about it, from all i've seen and read, including the book about the makeing of the flick. It burns my butt when they screw with history, espchualy when participents are still alive to render a verdict. My dad was a Navy prop mech. at a NAS in Sitka, alaska, then This means something to me! Veterans have a low bulls**t factor, and combat vets even more so. If i get the DVD of this thing, i'm watching the attack sequance....if anything...and leaving the rest to fester in the dark of the Public Library DVD bin. Hope it don't contaminate better films like "Battleground" and " The big red one."

www.slipups.com ain't bad

All I have to say is that I wouldn't touch Pearl Harbor with a 10 foot stick. I managed to catch some Tora Tora Tora on History channell at like 2 in the morning and it kept me up till around 4. Its normally impossible for me to stay up past 10,let alone that late.

I don't really care care about Pearl Harbour being historically inadequate. After all, this is what you can expect from any hollywood movie (see "Gladiator" for instance: it is as inacurate as this one, but it si still a good movie), but I really hated this movie: terrible direction (can't believe Bay is still on the job), wooden acting and one of the silliest scripts I have ever seen, plus lots of cheap patriotism
(note: I agree with one of the previous posts: Hollywood often mistakes revenge instinct with patriotism) to conceal the holes everywhere.

Oh, and I saw lots of mistakes, but true ones, such as when Ben Affleck's character falls to the water: he falls to the sea during daylight but comes to surface after night. A similar mistake appeared in Bay's "Bad boys". I guess some people never learn.

P.D. How curious that the film glorifies revenge, but does not dare to speak about
the atomic bombing over civilians in Hiroshima or Nagasaki, or lies openly when the president says that they are a country of fridge-manufacturers. In fact, one of the ways the U.S. recovered its status after the great depression was selling arms to Europe.

Neville wrote:
> P.D. How curious that the film glorifies revenge, but does
> not dare to speak about
> the atomic bombing over civilians in Hiroshima or Nagasaki,
> or lies openly when the president says that they are a
> country of fridge-manufacturers. In fact, one of the ways the
> U.S. recovered its status after the great depression was
> selling arms to Europe.

Now my answer to this question will be a bit hazy, but keep in mind that I am being open about this. This is hard for me to say this, but I have to. America is critical and even hypocritical towards certain events and histories. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying bad things about the good ole' US of A. But lets take a look at Neville's question.

The atomic bombings of both Hiroshima and Nagasaki were done to end the war becasue the Japanese would not give up and surrender. But what's lost about this fact is that innocent civilians were killed to end a war. Even though their was reason for it, to me THAT IS AN ACT OF COWARDICE THAT'S WORSE THEN WHAT THE JAPANESE DID TO PEARL HARBOR. The use of a weapon that did horrible devistation and that NOBODY knew the concequences or the side effect of the whole event is more wrong than right. And we say the Japanese deserved it! While some might say that, I think it's best to say that "Two wrongs doesn't make a right". Maybe the Japanese soldiers deserved to suffer like that, but innocent civilians! That is not an act of justice at all.

And some might say "They did not give up" is more likely an understatement. Imagine if the United States was in the same position as the Japanese, WOULD WE give up? I would think not. After the September 11th incident, did we surrender and give up? NO!

People have been comparing Pear Harbor to the World Trade Center attack too much. The comparison of World Trade Center that fits better is the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings. Or both fit well into the perspective.

I said it before and I will say it again, their is no good guy or bad guy when it comes to war (this does vary, though). Imagine a turntable with an American sitting on the good side and the enemy sitting on the bad side. Turn the table around and you have the American sitting on the bad side and the enemy sitting on the good side. As this goes on back and fourth the point of war ceases to make us wonder "What is this war all about". Not a great example, but it fits the bill.

Sometimes we are hypocritical of war history and we always pin ourselves as "Good Guys". That is not always true. We do have good fighters, but so do other countries. And we have held grudges against others becasue of their war history (i.e. Japan, Germany, Italy, etc.). But we do not realize that our war history has made vital mistakes (in my own opinion, the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings are one) and we must keep it im mind so we don't have that incident happen again. Even though USA has won some wars, victory is slim for us becasue we have the same results as the loosing team and that is death, violence, and destruction. And that is something that nobody wants.

If you feel free to correct me on any points or observations on my emotional statement, please do.

Believe it or not, I agree with everything you said here. If I wasn't too specific it was because this is not a politics' forum, and I wanted to separate reality and fiction for sanity's sake. Talking about this movie in particular, what angers me is that these people not only hipocriticaly rewrote history to fit their desires ignoring
one of the most terrible events in modern history, but that they did it just to get more tickets sold in the 4th of July.

You have been quite brave speaking like that, specially considering the present circumstances, and I really appreciate it, but don't be afraid to speak up. Self-criticism hasn't destroyed any country yet, and one of the things that anybody should accept is that there is no country  in this world with a clean counciosness.

Dear Gents. I can see some points of agreement in what you write, on this subject. War, as the man said, is pure hell. It is the uglist atribute of human history. And it comes from good,lod selfishness. Still.....i have to say....i'm glad we won. If the Imperial Japaneese or Nazi Germany had won....this web site would not exist. Nor most of the ancestors of those who write today. No one starts wars expecting to lose. Those who feel they have too much to lose, don't useualy risk losing what they have. When men get greedy and envious, they let thier darkest self loose, and history is the resault. Well, most history. Still.....there is bad, and there is worse. Japan and Germany would never have Marshall planned us had they won. There are degrees of evil, and while the winners write the history books....sometimes they write them honestly. Unit 731 and Auschwitz are remembered, to ensure such horrors are not repeated. The winners , for the most part, became aware of their own capasity for evil, by looking into the mirror marked World War Two, and said "Beware" Man is flawed....and when he forgets that, his arrogance will find an outlet. Only a sense of humanity can lead you to say,"Enough. lets end this now." Sorry if i'm kind of vague, but its hard to deal with such issues. They are so big! Was it evil to bomb the  two cities? Yes. Was it inevitable? Yes. Was it better then they lost, and we won? Yes. Lesser of two evils? Yes. But, now we have Allies who once were enemies. It could have been worse....and thats the only real comfort we can have when it come to war. The fact that some nations know when to quit. Sorry bout the pontification....i do go on a bit, don't i?