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Braindead (Dead Alive) is probably the bloodiest movie I have ever seen in my life.  There can't be anything more violent; right?  RIGHT?

 I suppose you could be nitpicky and say there's a diffirence between a bloody movie and a violent movie. A movie can be one without being the other. Is that a valid argument?

I've got a couple of movies that come to mine:

Desporado (with one of the biggest gun fights, it has to be bloody)
RoboCop
Terminator 1&2
Every slasher and military movie known to man (hey you have to be spicific.)

There are underground, borderline illegal tapes with uber-gory staged scenes mixed with actual crime scene and suicide/murder footage that could qualify as goriest ever. Isn't it great to hear the reaction of someone who's just seen Dead Alive? "It's so gory!"







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Try the German film called Premutos, it definitely gives brain dead a challenge concerning gore content in buckets. Something close to a 138 deaths are shown in the film, mostly zombie related gore. The US title is lord of the dead but it's not released here yet.

Awhile back I saw a very low budget, independent film (can't remember the title) about a lady who tracks down a serial killer and blackmails him into teaching her how to be a serial killer.

The movie itself wasn't that bad, but the intro credits were pretty extreme

Hard Boiled-People die viciously and there is a rediculously high body count
American History X-Brutal
Saving Private Ryan-Nuff said
The Street Fighter-Some of the grossest stuff I've ever seen

Here's Some More:

Terror Firmer-Do I need to explain?

Scanners-Exploding head scene!

Hannibal-Plenty of gore compared to alot of mainstream movies.

Bullet In The Head-Disturbing violence.

what about ricky oh, or starship troopers?  granted a lot of the "troopers" violence is geared towards bugs.

I don't know about most violent EVER, but these movies have some disturbing moments of violence (as opposed to being simply gory, there is a difference)

Dirty Harry
Straw Dogs
I Spit on Your Grave
Death Wish II
Deep Cover
Romeo is Bleeding

Saving Private Ryan is not that gory. Whenever a mainstream film with gore comes out everyone makes a big deal about how gruesome it is, then I see it and it's not that bad. Blade 2, Private Ryan, whatever. Even in super-bloody films like Dead Alive, I think there could be more. Maybe I'm sick, I don't know.

What about Reservoir Dogs? That has to be right up there as one of the most violent films out there.

>I don't know about most violent EVER, but these movies have some disturbing
>moments of violence (as opposed to being simply gory, there is a difference)

 One of the most disturbing moments of violence in a movie that I've seen was in the film Shot Through The Heart, about the war in Bosnia. A young girl goes out to sit on the steps and wait for her mother and she's shot in the head by a sniper.

That depends on your definition of violence, Private Joker. If you mean gore, "Cannibal holocaust" or similar stuff is almost unbeatable in this field.

If you mean unnecesary and "funny" violence, check "Starship troopers" or "From dusk till dawn".

If you mean violent and disturbing scenes, check "Reservoir dogs", "The wild bunch", "Straw dogs", "A bullet in the head" or "Robocop".

There is a very disturbing scene in Henry: Portrait Of A Serial Killer in which Henry and a pal watch a tape they made of them torturing and killing a family. I often find that when a film shows violence in a realistic and honest manner it is much more disturbing than when it's stylized or overly gory. That's pobably why we won't ever see a vivid account on celluloid of the depravity of people like Dahmer or Gacy, it would be grotesque. Have you ever seen old footage from Vietnam or the holocaust? Seeing the kind of atrocities people will commit against each other in real life is quite an eye-opener.

That would be Bloodletting, written and directed by Matt Walsh.  I love the sheer perversity of that flick.

Nathan

There is truth to that, J.R. I don't like gory films, just don't suite me. And the more realistic it is, the less i can take.  I watched "Enemy at the Gates" yesterday. The gore was in service to a point in time, where you could not avoid it. War is madness, and to show less these would seem ...what...dishonest? Yet, i do feel as i'm getting too numb to what i see in the films i do watch. That bothers me.

I can't believe in a thread about movie violence no one has mentioned Death Race 2000, an entire dedicated to the joy of vehicular manslaughter commited against helpless pedestrians.  And babies and children are worth lots of points!  Euthanasia day!  Pretty damned violent for its time, and even today.

And remember,
"Only the winner gets to shake hands with Mr. President"

I can't believe I forgot about that one myself.
What about the original Rollerball?

Brotherhood Of The Wolf-For the random brutality.

Pedicab Driver-Somewhat brutal and occassionally disturbing.

Dawn Of The Dead-Truckloads of zombie gore!

Evil Dead-Extreme use of an ax!

Any "Beat" Takeshi movie!

How about the killer is a john woo thing.

Can't forget Natural Born Killers.  It was all glorified violence just for the sake of it.  I wasn't offended by the movie, I just thought it was garbage.

Don't forget THE WILD BUNCH and BONNIE AND CLYDE.  They changed the way movies portrayed violence.  

Definitely agree about a difference between gore and violence.  DEAD ALIVE doesn't impress me much because it's not really scary and is too comedic to be taken seriously.  It's more like a Monty Python film than a real horror film.   The second and third EVIL DEAD movies are the same way.      

My main pick would be CANNIBAL HOLOCAUST, just for sheer immorality....

Erik J wrote:
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> I can't believe I forgot about that one myself.
> What about the original Rollerball?

Rollerball wasn't really that violent compared to some of the other flicks mentioned here.  It was mild enough to be shown on Turner Classic Movies, for Christ's sake.

True but for what is was it was a violent film none the less

And why hasn't anyone mentioned the Faces Of Death series?

according to the guiness book of records, the most violent film in history is RED DAWN with an act of violence occouring every 1.5 mins.

Yes, but Red Dawn is PG-13.  The acts of violence must not have been that graphic.

Natural Born Killers was supposed to be a comedy. Usually it's the sort of thing I'd like, but I didn't. It was overblown and bombastic, with all the different angles and tints and stylistic changes. It was made to be viewed while stoned, I guess.

,the most violent film in history is RED DAWN with an act of violence occouring every 1.5 mins.

Then how about Star Wars.....just what was the population of Alderan?  Averaged out over the movie?

And how many crewmembers were on the Death Star?

Phil, can you provide more info on that figure?  My copy (2000) doesn't have this, nor does the online site.

Andrew

Ah, good point. Whole planetary populations. Does that deserve it's own heading? And, would that come under a heading of Implied death, vs. actual on screen fatatalites? How many other planets, beside Krypton, got blowed up good?

Earth has been blowed up any number of times, so I'm trying to think of other planets, that likely had larger populations, being destroyed in movies.

They did a fine job of destroying much of the Milky Way Galaxy in "Gunbuster" (a short anime series).
This Island Earth - Metaluna
Flash Gordon - apparently Ming enjoys destroying planets
LEXX - The Brunnen-G homeworld was probably heavily populated
Battlefield Earth - Psychlo
Quatermass and the Pit - Mars was once infested with beasties
Forbidden Planet - the Krell killed off by their own ids.
Final Fantasy The Spirits Within - the alien's home

Andrew

LEXX - The Brunnen-G homeworld was probably heavily populate



We have a winnah!!!!



They destroyed an entire universe..

What about The Neverending Story? Fantasia is blown into tiny gray pieces. If only Douglas Adams' Hitchhiker's Guide books were adapted, in the final installment Earth is destroyed not only as we know it, but in every alternate reality, which probably works out to gigabillions of people.

Cannibal Holocaust.  Cannibalism, live animal killings, brutal rapes,  an extremey disturbing abortion scene.  I was finally shocked by a movie.  I have dead alive, Cannibal Holocaust blows it away, just because it seems so real.  If anyone else has seen this, I would like to know what you think.  Just a little advice, this movie is not for people with weak stomachs, I actually turned away during certain scenes.  Before say I am over reacting, please see it for yourself.

Where does the most recent Rambo come in??  This was pretty damn gory.

Die Hard series

2 fairly recent French horror movies called "Inside" & "Martyrs" are incredibly violent. Inside in particular is so in your face with the almost unbearable level of depravity and violence, it  would never in a million years get made here in the states. The 1st half of Martyrs is almost as rough.

I think martyrs is far worse than inside. There is lots of blood in inside but the brutality in martyrs is unlike anything I have seen.  What that woman goes through in the second half of the movie made me squirm in my seat. It was brutal.

Apocalypto- the huge headless body-count says it all

for pure violence without gore, i'd go with The Wild Bunch or maybe the AIP release of Dillinger with Warren Oats.

With gore mixed in I like the first Robocop or the original Dawn or even Day of the Dead.

Newer movies like The Killer or Hard Boiled seem to take it up a notch.

Currently... My vote for most bloody/violent is The Machine Girl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBt1SihHDt0

Irreversible starts with a guy getting his head literally smashed to a pulp with a fire extinguisher in one long five-minute shot. Later, Monica Bellucci gets anally raped in a pedestrian tunnel for about ten minutes. Brutal.