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Title: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: Ash on August 30, 2006, 04:18:58 AM
I'm not sure about the rest of the country, but here in Iowa, praying mantises only come out for a month or two out of the entire year.
From late August to late September/early October these things come out and do their thing.

I've always been fascinated by these creatures.
They look really cool, are completely harmless and will gladly let you pick them up.
(well, most of them do...some quickly try to fly away)

The other night after I got off work, I parked my car in the parkade next to my apt. building and as I was walking to the door to my floor, I heard a loud buzzing noise.
I looked down and there was a mantis caught in a huge spider web going crazy to escape.
The buzzing was its wings flapping like mad.  
There was no spider in the web so I scooped it up, set it down on the cement and went inside to get my camera.
I cleaned as much of the web off it as I could.
It was covered in spider silk but sat quietly while I cleaned it all off.
I snapped these pics...

(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9508/dsc002081jo3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

You can see some of the web that was stuck to its legs in the pic below:
(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2314/dsc002051js2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

As you can see, this specimen was decent sized, I'd guess him to be around 5 inches long
(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2811/dsc002031sj9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

It's staring right at me.  I wonder what it was thinking...
(http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/3343/dsc002071ht2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Here's a close up of his head, that's spider web gunk on its antennea
(http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/9547/dsc002101pt6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

This one was pretty docile, it let me hold it for quite awhile before taking flight:
(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3623/dsc002011vc1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

I like how they move their heads.  They're some of the only insects in the world that can do that.
I held this one up at eye level and as I moved my head from right to left it would follow me with its head...always staring straight at me.
It was probably thankful that I rescued it from that web.

Most people I know are absolutely terrified of praying mantises but not me, I think they're cool!
Many of you probably see these things all the time but around here, it's a rare treat to see them out & about.

Click here for more info on them (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praying_mantis)

How about you?
Do you see mantises around where you live?


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: akiratubo on August 30, 2006, 06:07:59 AM
They are beautiful, beautiful insects.  Thank you for rescuing it.

Of all the insects, they are also probably the least "alien" to us; they have two "arms", their head is on a "neck", etc.

They are underutilized as bad movie monsters!  Sure, sure, whenever there are insectoid aliens they look like praying mantises, but there are only a couple of giant mantis movies and absolutely no movies about mantises that are roughly human sized.

I'd LOVE to see a man-in-a-suit mantis monster movie along the lines of "Alien" or "Predator".


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: Scottie on August 30, 2006, 08:56:59 AM
Ash,

That last pic of the mantis flying away is great. It looks like a long bird in flight and there's your hand right there! Plus it looks like you're in a parking deck which is always cool. Glad you had your camera with you. That is one awesome moment.


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: Ash on August 30, 2006, 09:31:09 AM
Scottie Wrote:
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That last pic of the mantis flying away is great.
> It looks like a long bird in flight


Believe me when I say that the wingspan of the praying mantis is almost that of a small bird.
They can make a terrible flapping noise when they want to.

Check out these pics of a mantis that captured a hummingbird! (http://www.birdwatchersdigest.com/site/backyardbirds/hummingbirds/mantis-hummer.aspx?sc=birdwireJul2005)


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: Acidburn on August 30, 2006, 10:11:31 AM
WOW!  I dont ever see them that big down here. The bigest one I have saw that I can remember has been like 3 inches. Absolutly wonderful pics Ash.


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: Amanda on August 30, 2006, 09:08:53 PM
I just love praying mantis.  They are just so damn cool looking. Not to mention the whole carniverous mating thing.  They used that in an episode of buffy....

Females tend to be a little bigger than the males, but they also don't usually fly.  

The only ones I've seen in Texas have been pretty small.  I think the biggest species gets to be about 6 inches or so, but I don't think they're native in America?

Sorry.  Nerd stuff.


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: loyal1 on August 30, 2006, 09:28:41 PM
Wow those were some cool pics.  You were wondering what he was thinking?  Maybe that your head is too big to bite off?  Maybe thinking you were the weirdest looking tree he ever landed on? Or maybe just maybe you have this rare power to communicate with bugs on a telepathic level.  I will be sure not to kill them with windex anymore in fear you will have your allies hunt me down.


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: BeyondTheGrave on August 30, 2006, 10:17:51 PM
Those are some cool pics there Ash. I only see a few prey mantises from a distance, not that I 'm afraid to touch them or anything, just never tired before.


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: odinn7 on August 30, 2006, 11:18:02 PM
When I was in Arizona this past June, I caught a Mantis on a table. It was a baby and couldn't have been bigger than about an inch. I picked it up and took it outside to the garden and tried to let it go out there. It wouldn't let go of my finger for minutes. Quite funny really.

Of course, I have a few other pics of some "bugs" from out there...anyone wanna see them? haha


(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/odinn7/spiders/babymantis.jpg)


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: peter johnson on August 31, 2006, 12:33:02 AM
Brilliant stuff!
As Scottie said, the shot of the beast flying off is a wonderful one -- realtime action, baby!!
My mother has a garden shot I took of a butterfly that I was sneaking up on, but when I finally got it in focus, I was shocked to see that a mantis was biting down on its head.  The first view I saw through the camera was so shocking that I forgot to press the trigger, and thus got 2 shots that weren't as great as the first thing I saw.
Insect photography is its own artform.
Good job.
Speaking of raising bugs, I used to find Luna Moth caterpillars in Virginia, and bring them into our porch.  I'd feed them their diet of Sugar Maple leaves & let them coccoon & then wait for the hatching.  They'd come out all damp and miserable, like a human baby, and dry out on our porch screens.  Once, one crawled up my arm and dried out on my earlobe.  That would've been a picture!  My mother still talks of that one --
peter johnson/denny crane


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: Shadowphile on September 01, 2006, 03:46:43 PM
I work doing emergency spill response in southern Ontario. I was returning from a call at 1:00 am, during which a praying mantis about 3 inches long  had landed on my coveralls. I had brushed him off my shoulder and forgotten about him. He must have clung to my back because while heading home, he jumped onto the face of the driver, who almost rolled the pick-up....

He said afterwards that he was very proud of his ability to 'scream like a girl'.


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: ulthar on September 01, 2006, 05:06:54 PM
Very cool pics, Ash.  And good job saving the 'little' guy.  I usually help spiders outside (I know it is not a popular view, but I LIKE spiders) if they are larger; the smaller ones just stay in the house.

Praying mantises (just what is the plural of mantis?) are very cool.  I've seen a few around here, but they are not really what I would call common.


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: ulthar on September 01, 2006, 05:07:37 PM
Awwwww...he's cute.

Good shot.


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: Ash on September 01, 2006, 08:52:39 PM
ulthar Wrote:
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Praying mantises (just what is the plural of
> mantis?) are very cool.


If I'm not mistaken, I believe they're called "mantids".
Not 100% on that.


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: Jim H on September 02, 2006, 04:39:11 AM
I think mantids is correct as well.  Mantid is what you call the collective group of them anyway, mantidae being their family (or order, I forget).

"They're some of the only insects in the world that can do that. "

I'm pretty sure mantids and their closest relatives are the only insects which can move their heads at all.

"They look really cool, are completely harmless and will gladly let you pick them up. "

If you irritate them enough, they can bite or pinch you a bit.  Doesn't hurt too much, but it is possible for them to draw blood.

"It's staring right at me. I wonder what it was thinking... "

Probably that if you were smaller, it would try to eat you.  Mantids, more so than most other carnivorous insects in my opinion, really make it clear that they regard people as something they'd try to eat if only they were smaller.  They're also usually pretty unimpressed with people.

"It was probably thankful that I rescued it from that web. "

I don't really think any insects are capable of feeling that way.  But oh well.

"Most people I know are absolutely terrified of praying mantises but not me, I think they're cool! "

Really?  I've never known anyone who was terrified of them.  They're one of the easiest insects to relate to for people, they don't crawl around a lot, don't eat any food people will, and will kill any insects that are smaller than them (though if you have one in your garden or what not, this does include beneficial insects like bees).  I do know in some parts of the US they occupy the unique position of an insect parents teach their kids to respect and not kill.

As may come across, they're my favorite insect.  Had a pet one for over a year.  Properly cared for, they can live about 3 years in captivity (they die in the winter normally).

BTW, Chinese mantids, which are what the pics are of, are not native to North America.  No mantids are.  Because of their nature and cannibalistic tendencies, they didn't overrun any native species, and simply integrated pretty well - somewhat like horses, another animal introduced to North America by Europeans.


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: odinn7 on September 03, 2006, 08:30:04 AM
ulthar Wrote:
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  I usually help spiders outside (I
> know it is not a popular view, but I LIKE spiders)
> if they are larger; the smaller ones just stay in
> the house.
>


Good man, good man! I applaud you. Too many people are quick to kill spiders and for no reason really. Spiders are very helpful and amazing creatures. As many here know, I have 4 tarantulas and am big on trying to get people to at least accept spiders and not just kill them for no reason.


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: Scott on September 03, 2006, 11:06:55 AM
What about dangerous squirrels Odinn7?

(http://hometown.aol.com/thebestplaces/images/squirrels%20with%20guns%202.jpg)


Title: Praying Mantis vs Walking Stick
Post by: Scott on September 03, 2006, 11:16:06 AM
When I was about 14 years old and lived in the countryside of North Central Pennsylvania for a little while I caught a praying mantis and an insect called a walking stick and put them in the same container together. By the next morning they were both dead with the walking stick cut in half. No kidding.

(http://www.butterfliesnbugs.com/photos/bugfacts/walkingstick2.jpg)


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: ulthar on September 03, 2006, 12:30:47 PM
ROFL!!

Cool pic, Scott.  Did you create it?


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: Neville on September 03, 2006, 01:06:01 PM
Impressive pictures, Ash. That's the kind of stuff I'll never, ever, ever, do. I have a phobia against big insects, and hearing one moving in the same room is enough to leave me paralised.


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: Scott on September 03, 2006, 07:22:12 PM
No.......it's a real insect Ulthar. It looks just like a stick and walks about. Here is a walking stick link below for more info. : )

Walking Stick (http://www.butterfliesnbugs.com/fun_bugfacts_stick.html)


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: loyal1 on September 03, 2006, 07:31:05 PM
lol...if you are kidding you have a great sense of humor...if not, sorry. :(


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: LH-C on September 03, 2006, 09:01:40 PM
There used to be this real jerk off radio talk show host named Spencer Hughes here where I live, and he was deathly afraid of Praying Mantises. He was a p***y.


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: odinn7 on September 04, 2006, 12:09:55 AM
Scott Wrote:
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> What about dangerous squirrels Odinn7?
>
> http://hometown.aol.com/thebestplaces/images/squir
> rels%20with%20guns%202.jpg


KILL THE SQUIRRELS!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: Scott on September 04, 2006, 03:48:49 PM
(http://extension.unh.edu/FHGEC/graphics/NFSquir.jpg)


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: loyal1 on September 04, 2006, 04:16:05 PM
Now that is a great pic.  I remember the first time I saw a flying squirrel...I near wet myself laughing.  I don't know what it is about squirrels but I enjoy them immensely.


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: Neville on September 04, 2006, 06:10:45 PM
Never seen any real life squirrels, they must be rare in my country. And I doubt we ever had the flying variety. I'm quite ambivalent towards that pic. One part of me wants to pet it, the other thinks it resembles a bat too much.


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: ulthar on September 04, 2006, 06:43:36 PM
I like bats.  I think they are very cool, and they eat nuisance bugs.  I've been thinking about building some bat boxes for my back yard to encourage them to hang out.


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: loyal1 on September 04, 2006, 06:51:48 PM
I think bats are pretty cool too...although I dropped to the floor when I found one flying by my head in the house.  It was when I first found badmovies.org and was reading the posts in the living room of my grandmothers house on my lap top.  That thing scared me half to death.  My grandfather got it outside though.

Another great memory is my time in NH with my sisters, brothers and cousins at my grandmothers house.  Across the street was a huge field with fireflies everywhere.  Cool sight, then around dusk the bats would come out, and my cousin Shane had dreads...it was caught in his hair for a few moments and he ran and screamed through the fields and we just laughed and laughed.  Usually the never came down that low.


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: peter johnson on September 04, 2006, 11:51:46 PM
If you do build a bat box, make sure it's high on the side of your house -- like all the way up to the top of the eve, as high as you can get it -- or put it on a tall pole.  The bats won't come if they think it's not high enough off the ground.
Also, be sure there's a water source nearby -- this ain't a big deal out East, where there's water water everywhere, but out here in Colorado -- mostly desert -- it's a huge consideration.  Bats really like a pond or a lake or a stream nearby because they flit down to the surface to grab a drink.
Bats are a scream -- They get very snippy with one another if they think someone's crowding the entrance/exit to the bat-box.  Usually subsonic vocally, they get quite AUDIBLE when swearing at each other in 'batsprache".
One of the coolest things I remember about my time in India was walking around the neighborhoods in Pune -- These were very proper neighborhoods made up of old British manor-style Victorian homes from the Raj period, so very much like a classic old 1910/1930's neighborhood in any rich district in any city in the USA, . . . except . . . around dusk, these things that looked like coconuts would start dropping from the trees, and  . . .  just before they hit the ground . . . would POP open like a party favour, and woosh!   These wings would appear, and slowly off would fly the Fruit Bats, with 4ft. wingspans!!  Wotta sight!
Batty Batty Batty!!
peter johnson/denny crane


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: Scott on September 05, 2006, 12:18:07 AM
Before starting on your project Ulthar take note the difference between bat in a cage and bat in a cave?

(http://www.sport2000.net/images/VPI2002port_baseball_bat_cage.jpg)

(http://www.highlandssanctuary.org/NaturalHistory/7Caves/Bat%20in%20cave%20of%20the%20springs,%20adjusted.jpg)

or a batters box and a bat box.

(http://www.donkihote.com/images15000000/11854271.jpg)

(http://i17.ebayimg.com/03/i/06/56/e6/ba_1_b.JPG)

They all seem to be different.


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: ulthar on September 05, 2006, 08:36:57 AM
Duly noted, Scott. Thanks!


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: peter johnson on September 07, 2006, 12:48:47 AM
Youse boys is bat -- *^*%$&$ crazy!
peter j./cenny d.


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: Scott on September 09, 2006, 09:43:37 PM
Take This Odinn7 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=44LDqjlvWf0)


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: Ash on September 10, 2006, 06:39:43 AM
I did some more research on Mantids and I actually believe that I was holding a female mantis.
Males are smaller and have a more pointy tail...(used for entering the female...that is until she bites his head off!)


Title: Re: OT: Praying Mantis Season! (with pics)
Post by: Shadowphile on September 10, 2006, 10:50:52 PM
I guess the one that was bugging me was a male.  It was small and very vivid green