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Title: Unsolved Mysteries
Post by: claws on April 25, 2012, 03:46:01 AM
Know any good ones? Please share. I'll start with the Dyatlov Pass incident. I found this only because Renny Harlin is making a movie about it.

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The Dyatlov Pass incident resulted in the deaths of nine ski hikers in the northern Ural mountains on the night of February 2, 1959. It happened on the east shoulder of the mountain Kholat Syakhl (Холат-Сяхыл) (a Mansi name, meaning Mountain of the Dead). The mountain pass where the incident occurred has since been named Dyatlov Pass (Перевал Дятлова) after the group's leader, Igor Dyatlov (Игорь Дятлов). The lack of eyewitnesses has inspired much speculation. Soviet investigators determined only that "a compelling unknown force" had caused the deaths. Access to the area was barred for skiers and other adventurers for three years after the incident. The chronology of the incident remains unclear because of the lack of survivors.

Investigators at the time determined that the hikers tore open their tent from within, departing barefoot into heavy snow and a temperature of −30°C. Although the corpses showed no signs of struggle, two victims had fractured skulls, two had broken ribs, and one was missing her tongue. Their clothing, when tested, was found to be highly radioactive.


Full story at wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyatlov_Pass_incident)


Title: Re: Unsolved Mysteries
Post by: RCMerchant on April 25, 2012, 05:20:04 AM
Know any good ones? Please share. I'll start with the Dyatlov Pass incident. I found this only because Renny Harlin is making a movie about it.

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The Dyatlov Pass incident resulted in the deaths of nine ski hikers in the northern Ural mountains on the night of February 2, 1959. It happened on the east shoulder of the mountain Kholat Syakhl (Холат-Сяхыл) (a Mansi name, meaning Mountain of the Dead). The mountain pass where the incident occurred has since been named Dyatlov Pass (Перевал Дятлова) after the group's leader, Igor Dyatlov (Игорь Дятлов). The lack of eyewitnesses has inspired much speculation. Soviet investigators determined only that "a compelling unknown force" had caused the deaths. Access to the area was barred for skiers and other adventurers for three years after the incident. The chronology of the incident remains unclear because of the lack of survivors.

Investigators at the time determined that the hikers tore open their tent from within, departing barefoot into heavy snow and a temperature of −30°C. Although the corpses showed no signs of struggle, two victims had fractured skulls, two had broken ribs, and one was missing her tongue. Their clothing, when tested, was found to be highly radioactive.


Full story at wikipedia ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyatlov_Pass_incident[/url])


Missing her tounge-sounds like the thing that happened with the cattle mutilations in the states some 20 odd years later. Cows would be missing specific parts-udders,tounges,and specifeclly cut patches of hide.
Thing is-UFO abductions in 1959 were before the infamous 1961 Betty and barney Hill case.

Example:
.Private First Class Gerrry Allen-March 2nd-1959.
http://www.appalachianghostwalks.com/us-ufo-center/ufologist/booth/irwin1.html

Quite a few reported encounters with "alien" sightings that went wrong-
.the Kelly,Kentucky case:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly-Hopkinsville_encounter

Now There may be any number of explanations for this kinda stuff-me-I keep an open mind-but it is so widley reported-I'm left thiking something very unusual is going on.
 Here is a smidgen of only the most famous cases-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UFO_sightings


Title: Re: Unsolved Mysteries
Post by: indianasmith on April 25, 2012, 06:18:26 AM
You have to mention the Marie Celeste case!  Most famous abandoned ship in history!


Title: Re: Unsolved Mysteries
Post by: zombie no.one on April 25, 2012, 07:58:00 AM
that Dytlov Pass Incident is really weird, there is even a website dedicated to it but it's in russian, can't remember the name of it

how about Fredrick Valentich... disappeared never to be seen again while in an aircraft over australia , radioing ground control saying there's a strange craft circling him...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Valentich


Title: Re: Unsolved Mysteries
Post by: Trevor on April 25, 2012, 08:29:24 AM
www.ultimateholidayplanner.com/Articles/CultureHeritage/Ghosts_And_Hauntings_In_SA.html (http://www.ultimateholidayplanner.com/Articles/CultureHeritage/Ghosts_And_Hauntings_In_SA.html)

 :buggedout:

There are a few here which make me go  :buggedout: :buggedout:


Title: Re: Unsolved Mysteries
Post by: Flick James on April 25, 2012, 09:09:14 AM
You have to mention the Marie Celeste case!  Most famous abandoned ship in history!


The Mary Celeste case is one of the greats. There truly is no satisfactry explanation for that one. Here's the wikipedia article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Celeste (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Celeste)



Title: Re: Unsolved Mysteries
Post by: Flick James on April 25, 2012, 09:17:44 AM
The Lake Bodom multiple homicide in Finland happened in 1960 and remains unsolved. The seemingly obvious suspect, the sole survivor of the attack, has been charged before, but there was never enough evidence to convict him.


Title: Re: Unsolved Mysteries
Post by: macabre on April 25, 2012, 01:03:30 PM
Hi
I love the story concerning Kasper Hausen,
who was he? why were there several attempts on his life?


Title: Re: Unsolved Mysteries
Post by: alandhopewell on April 25, 2012, 01:23:35 PM
     Take your pick....

http://www.yourghoststories.com/user-profile.php?user=31908


Title: Re: Unsolved Mysteries
Post by: Chainsawmidget on April 25, 2012, 02:22:23 PM
The Taman Shud case.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taman_Shud_Case


Title: Re: Unsolved Mysteries
Post by: The Gravekeeper on April 25, 2012, 03:23:24 PM
Know any good ones? Please share. I'll start with the Dyatlov Pass incident. I found this only because Renny Harlin is making a movie about it.

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The Dyatlov Pass incident resulted in the deaths of nine ski hikers in the northern Ural mountains on the night of February 2, 1959. It happened on the east shoulder of the mountain Kholat Syakhl (Холат-Сяхыл) (a Mansi name, meaning Mountain of the Dead). The mountain pass where the incident occurred has since been named Dyatlov Pass (Перевал Дятлова) after the group's leader, Igor Dyatlov (Игорь Дятлов). The lack of eyewitnesses has inspired much speculation. Soviet investigators determined only that "a compelling unknown force" had caused the deaths. Access to the area was barred for skiers and other adventurers for three years after the incident. The chronology of the incident remains unclear because of the lack of survivors.

Investigators at the time determined that the hikers tore open their tent from within, departing barefoot into heavy snow and a temperature of −30°C. Although the corpses showed no signs of struggle, two victims had fractured skulls, two had broken ribs, and one was missing her tongue. Their clothing, when tested, was found to be highly radioactive.


Full story at wikipedia ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyatlov_Pass_incident[/url])


A lot of it sounds like a textbook case of a group of people dying of hypothermia. Even the missing clothes fits that explanation since many hypothermia victims experience the feeling of extreme heat (hypothermia does all sort of weird things to your mind while it kills you). The no-tongued woman is simple enough to explain: scavenging animals go for very soft tissues first, and if her mouth was open, well...The weird tan on the bodies? They'd be out in the sun on the snow for some time before they were found, and bodies start turning weird colours pretty shortly after death.

http://unitedcats.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/the-dyatlov-pass-accident/ (http://unitedcats.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/the-dyatlov-pass-accident/)

Even though what happened seems to have just been a sad accident, I wouldn't be irked if the movie just ignored the facts and made a story about aliens or super-secret Soviet testing. I mean, hell, why let the (highly probable) truth get in the way of a good story?


Title: Re: Unsolved Mysteries
Post by: Chainsawmidget on April 25, 2012, 03:36:59 PM
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A lot of it sounds like a textbook case of a group of people dying of hypothermia. Even the missing clothes fits that explanation since many hypothermia victims experience the feeling of extreme heat (hypothermia does all sort of weird things to your mind while it kills you). The no-tongued woman is simple enough to explain: scavenging animals go for very soft tissues first, and if her mouth was open, well...The weird tan on the bodies? They'd be out in the sun on the snow for some time before they were found, and bodies start turning weird colours pretty shortly after death.
How do you explain them being radioactive?


Title: Re: Unsolved Mysteries
Post by: El Misfit on April 25, 2012, 03:57:30 PM
You have to mention the Marie Celeste case!  Most famous abandoned ship in history!


The Mary Celeste case is one of the greats. There truly is no satisfactry explanation for that one. Here's the wikipedia article:

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Celeste[/url] ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Celeste[/url])



wasn't it most likely to be alcohol fumes being burned, so every one abandoned ship? :question:


anyways, here's mine-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentich_Disappearance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentich_Disappearance)
creepy, eh? :buggedout:


Title: Re: Unsolved Mysteries
Post by: The Gravekeeper on April 25, 2012, 05:25:42 PM
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A lot of it sounds like a textbook case of a group of people dying of hypothermia. Even the missing clothes fits that explanation since many hypothermia victims experience the feeling of extreme heat (hypothermia does all sort of weird things to your mind while it kills you). The no-tongued woman is simple enough to explain: scavenging animals go for very soft tissues first, and if her mouth was open, well...The weird tan on the bodies? They'd be out in the sun on the snow for some time before they were found, and bodies start turning weird colours pretty shortly after death.
How do you explain them being radioactive?

That one gets a tad tricky since the original documents disappeared (thanks Soviet Russia for making what was probably just an accident seem like a cover-up), but there is enough to suggest that that may have been added later (as tends to happen through re-tellings of already odd stories). I'm just saying that a group of hikers freezing to death seems much more likely than some kind of weird government experiment or something.


Title: Re: Unsolved Mysteries
Post by: Trevor on April 26, 2012, 12:30:35 AM
The Taman Shud case.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taman_Shud_Case[/url]


 :buggedout: :buggedout: :buggedout:

That creeped me out in a big way.


Title: Re: Unsolved Mysteries
Post by: claws on April 26, 2012, 01:56:09 AM


[url]http://unitedcats.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/the-dyatlov-pass-accident/[/url] ([url]http://unitedcats.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/the-dyatlov-pass-accident/[/url])

I wouldn't be irked if the movie just ignored the facts and made a story about aliens or super-secret Soviet testing.


Facts like those?

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Running around in the dark half crazed and running into rocks etc could explain the injuries.


 :bouncegiggle:

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Three of them had fatal injuries: the body of Thibeaux-Brignolle had major skull damage, and both Dubunina and Zolotarev had major chest fractures. According to Dr. Boris Vozrozhdenny, the force required to cause such damage would have been extremely high. He compared it to the force of a car crash. Notably, the bodies had no external wounds, as if they were crippled by a high level of pressure.


Of course the skeptic ignores the autopsy report about the injuries, comes up with a flimsy excuse, blames Soviet paranoia or claims it wasn't part of the original documents. Or maybe they did have a secret hidden car and crashed, who knows  :wink:





Title: Re: Unsolved Mysteries
Post by: zombie no.one on April 26, 2012, 02:01:31 AM

anyways, here's mine-
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentich_Disappearance[/url] ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentich_Disappearance[/url])
creepy, eh? :buggedout:

erm yeah... I guess my other reply mysteriously vanished when you were reading the thread  :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Unsolved Mysteries
Post by: The Gravekeeper on April 26, 2012, 02:49:12 AM


[url]http://unitedcats.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/the-dyatlov-pass-accident/[/url] ([url]http://unitedcats.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/the-dyatlov-pass-accident/[/url])

I wouldn't be irked if the movie just ignored the facts and made a story about aliens or super-secret Soviet testing.


Facts like those?

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Running around in the dark half crazed and running into rocks etc could explain the injuries.


 :bouncegiggle:

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Three of them had fatal injuries: the body of Thibeaux-Brignolle had major skull damage, and both Dubunina and Zolotarev had major chest fractures. According to Dr. Boris Vozrozhdenny, the force required to cause such damage would have been extremely high. He compared it to the force of a car crash. Notably, the bodies had no external wounds, as if they were crippled by a high level of pressure.


Of course the skeptic ignores the autopsy report about the injuries, comes up with a flimsy excuse, blames Soviet paranoia or claims it wasn't part of the original documents. Or maybe they did have a secret hidden car and crashed, who knows  :wink:






You've always gotta have at least one skeptic in these kinds of conversations, and I didn't see anyone else stepping up to the plate.  :wink:

Anyway, here's my contribution: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rongorongo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rongorongo) Okay, nothing creepy about this one, but it is still a mystery. If it turns out that it is a form of writing after all, then there's the possibility of someday deciphering it, and then we'll learn more about that civilization. Unless it turns out to be purely decorative. Or impossible to decipher.


Title: Re: Unsolved Mysteries
Post by: El Misfit on April 26, 2012, 05:09:17 PM

anyways, here's mine-
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentich_Disappearance[/url] ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentich_Disappearance[/url])
creepy, eh? :buggedout:

erm yeah... I guess my other reply mysteriously vanished when you were reading the thread  :bouncegiggle:

Well then, I guess I scrolled to fast to catch it. :smile:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_O%27Hare_International_Airport_UFO_sighting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_O%27Hare_International_Airport_UFO_sighting)


Title: Re: Unsolved Mysteries
Post by: Mr. DS on April 27, 2012, 07:24:12 AM
The Lizzie Borden house murders...its even odder if you visit the house.