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Title: Doctor Sleep (2019)
Post by: Olivia Bauer on November 13, 2019, 05:51:35 PM
Is the entire internet pranking me? Is there some sort of joke I'm not getting?
When I saw a trailer for this before Joker it looked like absolute dogs**t. I figured the internet would tear it to f**king shreds
for even trying to piggy-back off of Kubrik's The Shining and pretending to be a sequel. But the trailer got a massive amount of likes
and few dislikes. My favorite critic gave it a 3/10 and everyone in the comments was like "Hmm... I disagree." I know people have
different opinions but I am absolutely shocked by how many people thought this looked good and enjoyed it.

Is there anyone else here that thinks it looks like s**t?


Title: Re: Doctor Sleep (2019)
Post by: Archivist on November 13, 2019, 07:05:02 PM
Well, it's the film adaptation of Stephen King's novel, which in itself is the sequel to his novel The Shining. I haven't read Doctor Sleep, but Stephen King films have had a growing number of hits over the years (some have been real stinkers). I think the blending of the two movies is a good idea.


Title: Re: Doctor Sleep (2019)
Post by: RCMerchant on November 13, 2019, 09:02:45 PM
I have read the book. It is a direct sequel to the Shining. In the book Danny is a a drunk, like his father. And bad s**t happens. The book was ok.


Title: Re: Doctor Sleep (2019)
Post by: claws on November 14, 2019, 01:36:12 AM
I haven't read the book but the trailer was kind of underwhelming. It didn't get me excited and I didn't notice much excitement on social media either, even though I really like the director. He has made a couple of solid horror movies.

I will check this out when it is available for home video.


Title: Re: Doctor Sleep (2019)
Post by: Trevor on November 14, 2019, 02:05:21 AM
I'm going to see it on Saturday and I'll let you guys know what I think.  :smile:


Title: Re: Doctor Sleep (2019)
Post by: chainsaw midget on November 14, 2019, 12:40:18 PM
The trailer looked okay.  Not great but not terrible. 

As for it being a sequel, I kinda wonder how that's supposed to work.  I know it's based a book that was a sequel to the novel Shinning, but it seems to be using imagery from the movie, which was quite different (and in my opinion much better) than the book. 

If they're going to adapt this to be more of a sequel to the movie, that seems like it would end up being a major change.


Title: Re: Doctor Sleep (2019)
Post by: Alex on November 14, 2019, 01:00:57 PM
From what I've read the director tried to make it a sequel to both. The events of the movie are how a young, tramautised kid remembers it while the book is more the mothers memories or something.


Title: Re: Doctor Sleep (2019)
Post by: RCMerchant on November 14, 2019, 01:16:48 PM
From what I've read the director tried to make it a sequel to both. The events of the movie are how a young, tramautised kid remembers it while the book is more the mothers memories or something.

The mother is not in the book at all. And it has little to do with the Shining, except the main character is Danny Torrance.


Title: Re: Doctor Sleep (2019)
Post by: Alex on November 15, 2019, 01:25:56 AM
From what I've read the director tried to make it a sequel to both. The events of the movie are how a young, tramautised kid remembers it while the book is more the mothers memories or something.

The mother is not in the book at all. And it has little to do with the Shining, except the main character is Danny Torrance.

The book or the film?


Title: Re: Doctor Sleep (2019)
Post by: RCMerchant on November 15, 2019, 11:00:13 AM
From what I've read the director tried to make it a sequel to both. The events of the movie are how a young, tramautised kid remembers it while the book is more the mothers memories or something.

The mother is not in the book at all. And it has little to do with the Shining, except the main character is Danny Torrance.

The book or the film?

The book. I haven't seen the movie...


Title: Re: Doctor Sleep (2019)
Post by: Alex on November 15, 2019, 01:58:13 PM
From what I've read the director tried to make it a sequel to both. The events of the movie are how a young, tramautised kid remembers it while the book is more the mothers memories or something.

The mother is not in the book at all. And it has little to do with the Shining, except the main character is Danny Torrance.

The book or the film?

The book. I haven't seen the movie...

I did try to find the review I read where they were talking about how the director had made it a sequel to both the book and movie but I can't seem to spot it in my history. If I can find it though I'll post the link up for you. I haven't watched the film myself.


Title: Re: Doctor Sleep (2019)
Post by: RCMerchant on November 16, 2019, 12:12:06 PM
I've kept up with most of his books. I had 3 years without a paycheck...I went to the library a lot!


Title: Re: Doctor Sleep (2019)
Post by: bob on November 16, 2019, 03:22:50 PM
I'm going to see this today. I'll let every one know what I think of it.  :smile:


Title: Re: Doctor Sleep (2019)
Post by: bob on November 16, 2019, 08:30:46 PM
So..... how do I make spoilers in text?

I guess what I'm asking is how do create the color of text where people would have to highlight it to see it?  :question:


Title: Re: Doctor Sleep (2019)
Post by: Rev. Powell on November 16, 2019, 08:52:48 PM
So..... how do I make spoilers in text?

I guess what I'm asking is how do create the color of text where people would have to highlight it to see it?  :question:

You can't, exactly. This is the best you can do. To do so select your text, hit the red "A" button, then select "green" from the dropdown menu that says "change color."


Title: Re: Doctor Sleep (2019)
Post by: chefzombie on November 17, 2019, 12:35:08 AM
or you could just start your post with SPOILERS AHEAD, DON'T READ IF YOU DON'T WANT THEM like i do, lol!


Title: Re: Doctor Sleep (2019)
Post by: Trevor on November 17, 2019, 07:43:39 AM
I decided not to go see it after all.


Title: Re: Doctor Sleep (2019)
Post by: bob on November 17, 2019, 10:55:22 AM
SPOILERS AHEAD













so this wasn't at all what I expected going into it

I was expecting a more traditional horror movie, more in the vein of The Shining

of course, I never read Doctor Sleep so there is that

complaints about the film:

1 - they brought back the iconic characters of Jack and Wendy Torrance and didn't have them played by Jack Nicholson and Shelly Duval respectively

while they people hired to play them looked like them they did not sound like them at all

2 - they used call backs to the Shining, which makes sense

one involved young Danny on his tricycle riding around the Overlook Hotel

the youngster they hired to play young Danny, sort of looked like he did in the original I think they would've been better off inserting footage of this from The Shining - it took me out of the moment

3 - there's a pretty big plot hole

near the end of the film Danny releases the various ghosts he encountered from his youth at the Overlook from a locked box in his mind using a technique Dick Hallorann tells him to kill Rose the Hat ---- including some he didn't see himself including Grady

the good -

1 - Kyliegh Curran makes one of best acting debuts I've seen in a while

she did not seem out of her league and held her own during scenes with Ewan McGregor

I expect to see good things out of her

2 - this film does a very good job of expressing in a realistic fashion how Danny would react/live with the aftermath of his traumatic experiences at the Overlook

3 - it wasn't by the numbers

4 - they did an excellent job of recreating the Overlook hotel - especially The Gold Room, if I didn't know any better I'd swear they lifted footage from The Shining and inserted it in to Doctor Sleep

overall I really enjoyed this and will probably end up buying it on DVD/bluray down the road




Title: Re: Doctor Sleep (2019)
Post by: ER on November 20, 2019, 08:44:12 AM
All I can say is the book was a major disappointment, marketing it as a sequel to The Shining was an outright lie, and yet I feel drawn to see this film, lol.


Title: Re: Doctor Sleep (2019)
Post by: RCMerchant on November 20, 2019, 12:54:16 PM
King is just riding the coat tails of his GOOD work he did when he was young. He turned into a hack. I read the book. I have no interest in seeing this at all.


Title: Re: Doctor Sleep (2019)
Post by: indianasmith on November 20, 2019, 06:31:50 PM
My daughters went to see it last night; they both loved it!


Title: Re: Doctor Sleep (2019)
Post by: Ticonderoga 64 on November 23, 2019, 12:27:19 PM
I saw it recently, it wasnt the most fantastic film ever, but it had some moments and was certainly better than quite a few King film adaptions of his stories.


Title: Re: Doctor Sleep (2019)
Post by: chainsaw midget on November 25, 2019, 03:37:35 PM
King is just riding the coat tails of his GOOD work he did when he was young. He turned into a hack. I read the book. I have no interest in seeing this at all.
Pretty much.  King's past his prime.  He lost is way midway through that huge Gunslinger thing he was writting for years. 


Title: Re: Doctor Sleep (2019)
Post by: Archivist on November 28, 2019, 08:16:37 PM
King is just riding the coat tails of his GOOD work he did when he was young. He turned into a hack. I read the book. I have no interest in seeing this at all.

As a kid and young adult, I read a lot of Stephen King, like The Shining, Carrie, Salem's Lot, and his anthology Skeleton Crew. I absolutely loved his work. As things went on, his horror took a nastier turn, with at least one unnecessarily brutal or nasty thing happening in each book or story. I felt like he was going for shock value, rather than creating deep characters and interesting plots, like his earlier work. This started happening around Misery and The Dark Half, although Needful Things was pretty fun and innovative, if I recall correctly.


Title: Re: Doctor Sleep (2019)
Post by: Neville on December 13, 2019, 10:46:51 AM
Saw it last night, didn't like it much. Of course the trailer was a good warning: they shouldn't have relied that much on the legacy of "The Shinning" if their material was as good.

I really could see them try hard at some points, like when visualizing when one character enters another mind, or the bartender scene near the end, but for the most part it looked like a TV adaptation: overlong, but the dread just wasn't there.

I do imagine King chuckling, however. It took him a long time, but he finally got to stick it to Kubrick, by shamelessly stealing his best imagery.