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I'm talking about 2000s era remakes of 70s and 80s horrors... so not, like, THE FLY.

I watched the 2008 remake of APRIL FOOLS DAY (1986) the other night and it was fairly wretched. bratty overacting from everyone. I didn't actually know that remake existed until recently, but it prompted me to think about some more


I've said before that MY BLOODY VALENTINE 3D (forget the 3D element) is far and away my favourite remake of a 70s/80s horror... they tightened up the original plot line and made it way cleverer, plus it manages to be entertaining and highly watchable

the only other post-2000 remake I'd say impressed me enough to think 'I want to watch that again' was the HILLS HAVE EYES remake. although I think it was flawed it at least had its own style and reason to exist

elsewhere the pickings are slim... I truly despised the 2006 remake of BLACK XMAS, one of the most obnoxious films I've ever seen. now I think there's another one

was disappointed with the FRIDAY 13TH remake/reboot... felt lazy and gimmicky. not that it was ever going to be a masterpiece.

the EVIL DEAD remake is also a complete load of dreck imo, but it seems to have a fanbase


any others which you guys particularly enjoyed or disliked?

From movies I own. Ranked from best to worst.

1. It 2017 (A-) 5.0
2. Dawn of the Dead 2004 (A-) 5.0

3. The Ring 2002 (B+) 4.5
4. The Invisible Man 2020 (B+) 4.5
5. Let Me In 2010 (B+) 4.5

6. Suspiria 2018 (B) 4.0

7. It Chapter Two 2019 (B-) 3.5
8. The Last House on the Left 2009 (B-) 3.5
9. Evil Dead 2013 (B-) 3.5
10. The Crazies 2010 (B-) 3.5
11. The Hills Have Eyes 2006 (B-) 3.5
12. Fright Night 2011 (B-) 3.5
13. The Uninvited 2009 (B-) 3.5
14. 13 Sins 2014 (B-) 3.5

15. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2003 (C+) 3.0
16. Mirrors 2008 (C+) 3.0
17. Willard 2003 (C+) 3.0
18. Halloween 2007 (C+) 3.0
19. Quarantine 2008 (C+) 3.0

20. The Amityville Horror 2005 (C) 2.5
21. The Grudge 2004 (C) 2.5
22. The Invasion 2007 (C) 2.5
23. We Are What We Are 2013 (C) 2.5
24. Carrie 2013 (C) 2.5
25. The Wolfman 2010 (C) 2.5
26. Pet Sematary 2019 (C) 2.5
27. Child's Play 2019 (C) 2.5
28. Thir13en Ghosts 2001 (C) 2.5
29. The Stepfather 2009 (C) 2.5
30. Dark Water 2005 (C) 2.5
31. The Hitcher 2007 (C) 2.5
32. The Town That Dreaded Sundown 2014 (C) 2.5

33. Piranha 3D 2010 (C-) 2.0
34. Friday the 13th 2009 (C-) 2.0
35. House of Wax 2005 (C-) 2.0
36. The Omen 2006 (C-) 2.0
37. Don't Be Afraid of the Dark 2010 (C-) 2.0
38. The Echo 2008 (C-) 2.0
39. My Bloody Valentine 2009 (C-) 2.0
40. The Eye 2008 (C-) 2.0
41. 2001 Maniacs 2005 (C-) 2.0
42. Toolbox Murders 2004 (C-) 2.0

43. A Nightmare on Elm Street 2010 (D+) 1.5
44. Shutter 2008 (D+) 1.5
45. Sorority Row 2009 (D+) 1.5
46. When a Stranger Calls 2006 (D+) 1.5
47. Nature's Grave 2008 (D+) 1.5

48. Knock Knock 2015 (D) 1.0
49. Poltergeist 2015 (D) 1.0
50. The Wizard of Gore 2007 (D) 1.0
51. Pulse 2006 (D) 1.0
52. Black Christmas 2006 (D) 1.0
53. Night of the Demons 2009 (D) 1.0

54. Day of the Dead 2008 (D-) 0.5

55. One Missed Call 2008 (F) 0.0
56. Prom Night 2008 (F) 0.0
57. Sisters 2006 (F) 0.0
58. The Wicker Man 2006 (F) 0.0
59. The Fog 2005 (F) 0.0
60. April Fool's Day 2008 (F) 0.0
61. It's Alive 2009 (F) 0.0

thanks... was almost about to start a list


8. The Last House on the Left 2009 (B-) 3.5

if ever a remke was never going to capture the vibe of the original. didn't hate it but just redundant


45. Nature's Grave 2008 (D+) 1.5 

think this is the remake of LONG WEEKEND (1978). excellent original, lame remake


54. Prom Night 2008 (F) 0.0 

saw the trailer for this the other day. looks like a standard teen drama!

I didn't like the new EVIL DEAD. It left out the black humor.
The new PROM NIGHT sucked. But the old one wasn't so great, either.
I Liked the new INVISIBLE MAN!
As far as the new DRACULA and FRANKENSTEIN films go- bleech!
the HILLS HAVE EYES- I enjoyed that.
I really like the new GODZILLA series! But It'll never have the same charm as the old man in a suit films.

agree... this is just my perception so maybe I'm wrong, but in the last 20 years or so, it seems like films cannot be subtly or covertly funny. they either have to be big signposted COMEDY haha funny (even if it's a 'horror'), or they have to be 100% deadpan serious.

The remake of The Fog was the worst one I've seen for a long time.

I agree w/ a lot of the opinions stated above, but the only one I feel particularly strongly about is DOTD'04. I like that one at least as much as the original.

Claws, excuse my ignorance - what are MIRRORS and THE ECHO remakes of? (...What were the titles of the originals? Were they foreign...?) Thx much.

I'm also not familiar with these, nor:

13. The Uninvited
14. 13 Sins
22. The Invasion
23. We Are What We Are
42. Shutter
46. Knock Knock
49. Pulse
55. Sisters

never heard of these titles

WE ARE WHAT WE ARE (2013) is a quite good film about a family of ghouls (ie. they eat dead people) and I don't believe that's any kind of remake, and SISTERS (1973) is the famous Brian DePalma movie and I can find NO remake of that. Their is a 2023 film called SISTERS- but it's no horror film.

Mirrors (2008) is based on the South Korean horror film Into the Mirror (2003), though director Alexandre Aja applied a few changes, it is still pretty much a remake.

The Echo (2008) is the US remake of the 2004 Filipino film Jigsaw, both by the same director.

The Uninvited (2009) is the US remake of the South Korean horror film A Tale of Two Sisters (2003).

13 Sins (2014) is a remake of the 2006 Thai comedy horror film 13 Beloved.

The Invasion (2007) is a version or remake (whatever you want to call it) of Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

We Are What We Are (2013) is a remake of the 2010 Mexican film of the same name.

Shutter (2008) is a remake of the 2004 Thai film of the same name.

Knock Knock (2015) is Eli Roth's remake of Death Game (1977).

Pulse (2006) is a remake of Kiyoshi Kurosawa's 2001 Japanese horror film Kairo.

Sisters (2006) is a remake of the 1972 Brian De Palma film of the same name.

There was even less fog in this one than in the first film 🥴😉

Fair enough - was really asking for post 2000 remakes of 70s and 80s originals, however no worries. It’s a bit scary to think films which were originally made after 2000 are now already getting the ‘remake’ treatment. Those are still new!!

Eli Roth remade DEATH GAME? that’s a bit of an obscure movie, I had it on dvd as THE SEDUCERS, the pic quality and sound was terrible. Weird movie

Oops. Sorry about that, I guess I got lost in my list and forgot about only remakes of 70s and 80s.

just remembered the pointless 2006 remake of THE OMEN.


40. Toolbox Murders 2004

there's quite a lot of talk about this on the extras of my bluray of FUNHOUSE, think Tobe Hooper was involved with the remake, but  somehow I've never been motivated to see it

15. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2003

thought I'd seen this but turns out I was confusing it with TCM: THE BEGINNING (2006), which came off like some random torture-p0rn thing


18. Halloween 2007 

worth mentioning for sure, but kind of neither a remake nor a reboot imo. strangely unclassifiable


33. Piranha 3D 2010 

too goofy for me... that same 'hey this is a COMEDY OK?' issue I described above


56. The Wicker Man 2006

nowt else to say that hasn't been said before. what were they thinking

I try to refrain from being redundant - again, I agree w/ a lot of the sentiments on here, more or less - but THE OMEN remake deserves some mention. I like the original a lot and agree that the remake is pretty pointless....... except I adore Liev Schreiber and David Thewlis, and (not to say a bad word about either Gregory Peck nor David Warner) just having Schreiber and Thewlis fill the original roles made it worthwhile for me.

On the other hand, the remake of SISTERS was completely appalling.

The remake of SUSPIRIA bored the crap out of me.

fair enough, this is the thing it's totally subjective. I wouldn't want anyone thinking they can't say they personally like X,Y,Z movie for any reason. anything goes... I preferred it to OMEN IV at least.


yeah I haven't watched it, but I just feel like it's not gonna be my cup of tea based off everything. can't think of a single 'classic era' Argento that could benefit off a remake tbh

Does 13 Ghosts count? It is a remake, but the original version was from 1960. I dug the remake.

Nightmare on Elm Street from like 2010. Overall, lackluster, but I felt Jackie Earle Haley was decent as Freddy. Script was bad.

Psycho from 1998 was awful.

I did like Texas Chainsaw Massacre from 2003. Pretty decent remake.

Best -
1. John Carpenter's The Thing (1982)
2. The Hammer Horror Series - Horror of Dracula (1958), The Curse of Frankenstein (1957) and so on.
3. David Cronenberg's The Fly (1986)
4. Evil Dead (2013) - One of the few modern remakes to make me eat a little crow.
5. Invaders from Mars (1986) - The flaws of the film are only carried over from the original 1950's version.
6. Cape Fear (1991) - I prefer Robert Mitchum's performance but a very competent remake that still holds up well.
8. Bram Stoker's Dracula (1992) - Keanu Reeves's kneecaps the film but once you get over that it's is a fantastic take.
9. The Mummy (1999) - While this film certainly took the fantasy/adventure route over the original Universal and Hammer films it was a fun blockbuster (note very dated CG)
10. House of Wax (1953)

Worst/Overrated -
1. Psycho (1998)
2. Rob Zombie's Halloween (2007) - One of the worst films from the edge lord era of horror.
3. The Haunting (1999)
4. Friday the 13th (2009) - Bland, boring and forgettable. Even for Friday the 13th.
5. Godzilla (1998)
6. The Ring (2002) - I feel this looses a lot of in translation and cultural aspects to the Japanese version. That includes most of the J-Horror remakes of this era. 
7. Peter Jackson's King Kong (2005) - Way too long.
8. The Shining (TV Mini Series 1997)
9. Salem's Lot (TV Mini Series 2004)
10. The Amityville Horror (2005)

I normally steer away from remakes in the rotten area unless REALLY recommended.

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sorry  :teddyr:

It is a fantastic film. rewatched it recently, definitely holds up... also like the '91 CAPE FEAR quite a lot. still never seen the original

agree the 2009 F13 was rubbish. did not have the spirit of the 80s ones

no, doesn't count... saw it recently, only because Rah Digga is in it and I didn't know she did acting


I'm actually not a fan of the original, but even I can see that it's clearly the kind of film that did not need to be remade, because the original did what it did to the utmost.

>>> saw it recently, only because Rah Digga is in it

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The original Elm worked i feel because of Wes Craven and Robert Englund was perfect. I can see how one could not like it

I’m a fan of her music

I figured. I wasn't TRYING to be a snarky jerk, and I was vaguely aware that she was a musician... but TBH my only encounter w/ the name or image of "Rah Digga" was wandering into a theatrical screening of THIRTEEN GHOSTS and wondering who the heck "Rah Digga" was that she managed to get billing right behind Tony Shalhoub and F. Murray Abraham. I left that theater still none the wiser, being unimpressed w/ Rah's performance. Then again, it's a nothing comic relief role, and to be additionally fair to Ms. Digga, Oscar winner F. Murray is also terrible in THIRTEEN GHOSTS. (Bizarrely, SCOOBY DOO star Matthew Lilliard gives the film's most committed performance!)

Anyway. By all means, sell me on Rah Digga! Presuming I can only listen to one Rah Digga album - which one should I try?

well... she's a rapper. so if you're not into rap it's not happening (although I can't listen to practically any rap from the last 20 years) . she was also part of Flipmode Squad which was Busta Rhymes's crew, so maybe him being in HALLOWEEN: RESURRECTION opened the door for her acting 'career'?

I think she only did 1 album

https://youtu.be/WQvoeRhL21o?si=w7kKiHvfdCo7kBxB

This made me wonder what her claim to fame is. Her album was released in April 2000. She was in Da Hip Hop Witch, released August 2000 (playing herself), a movie not many have seen. Filming of Thir13en Ghosts began in October 2000. She didn't do another film until 2023 (with only five votes at IMDb).

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Her album sold 300,000,00 copies, but none of her singles had chart success.

In the book 'How to Rap' she is listed as "one of hip hop's most skilled female MCs."

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I hope this wasn't too snarky. I was only wondering about her.

not sure she has a 'claim to fame', haha... her career didn't really take off.

last night watched the 2006 remake of WHEN A STRANGER CALLS , original from '79

lame acting, fairly lame execution... but the house that most of the film takes place in is amazing. it's worth watching just for this bizarre, dreamlike house!

RETURN OF THE FAMILY MAN, a South African remake of THE STEPFATHER. A terrible film with the first shot showing a wide angle picture of a giant pizza 😳🐢

Yeah, that house was really cool. The interior was actually a studio set, though.

My favorite character? Rosa, the housemaid. She made the movie worthwhile for me  :teddyr:

They had plans for a sequel called "When a Stranger Returns" with a new babysitter, but it was cancelled.

I like rap and I like Busta Rhymes as an emcee (though I didn't recall Ra Digga's co-features). I even like some hip hop from the past 20 years... John "Blu" Barnes (particularly w/ the producer Exile) has gotta' be a legitimate GOAT contender. And MF DOOM's last real album was only about 12 years ago, and obv he's continued to have a Tupac-like influence even from beyond the grave. (Rest in Superpower, DOOM.) I'll go look up Digga on RYM.......

I even like Busta as an actor. "Yo, SHAFT!!!" That HALLOWEEN was no one's finest hour, of course...

yeah if it wasn't for mf doom I think I might've completely zoned out of hip hop back in around 03-04 when guys like 50 cent were everywhere and I could not stand that stuff. I never liked eminem either... I am aware of blu & exile but never checked their releases

Blu is one of those guys who works constantly and spreads himself a little thin but his output never drops below a reasonable level of quality, and his best stuff (mostly his self-produced stuff and his work w/ Exile) is  :hot:. I'd put his lyrics and his flow on "Bad News Barnes" against anybody else on any track full-stop.

Maybe it's just because I saw it first, but I really like the 1990 remake of "Night of the Living Dead".

It's interesting, for sure... it makes changes that somewhat mute the impact of the original's ending, but hey, why make a remake that's identical to the original anyway?

I am eternally confused with the timeline and sequel/prequel/remake/reboot status of any of the ‘…OF THE DEAD’ or ‘…OF THE LIVING DEAD’ movies. I’ve seen a few but no idea which ones. Only thing I’m fairly sure of is the first one of the bunch is in black and white…. :)

^ The first 3- NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD (1969), DAWN OF THE DEAD (1979), and DAY OF THE DEAD (1985) are the 3 original George Romero films. The rest SUCK.
Well, RETURN OF THE LIVING DEAD (1985) is not related to the Romero films except maybe in spirit- the one with punks vs zombies- I like that one! and # 3 of that series as well.

ok so the '...LIVING DEAD' ones are not connected at all to the '...OF THE DEAD' ones?

^None.

I kinda liked the HILLS HAVE EYES remakes...I'm just sick and tired of remakes. I like NEW ideas! And I think there are a lot of new horror films of the last 20 years that are fantastic. YELLOWBRICKROAD (2010), CHINK (2013), BLACK MOUNTAIN SIDE (2014)- all great original films. f**k all this lame remake s**t.

not heard of those 3 but might have to check them out, as like you I am pretty disillusioned with the never-ending remake cycle

how about a movie where a killer is stalking the set of a remake in production?! (I have a vague feeling that is the plot of the as yet unreleased MUTILATOR 2? might be wrong...)

Not the same idea, but Scream 3 takes place in Woodsboro and LA where production is underway on Stab 3, the film series within the Scream series about the events of Scream. The director, a few actors from the film are partially attacked as a way of bringing in attention from Dewey, Gale and Sidney, victims of Ghostface in the Scream world.

Jay and Silent Bob appear in a small cameo.

ah yes. forgot about that....

another interesting thing is that in THE LAST HORROR FILM (1982), the (fictional) film Caroline Munroe's character is promoting at the Cannes Film Festival  is called 'Scream', and just before she gives her press conference we see a poster for another fictional film called 'Stab'..   :buggedout: