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Title: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: jga on April 13, 2004, 11:26:36 PM
Anyone know any really gory films that make you think? I know Dawn of the Dead is a good example.  28 Days Later would be a good example but it wasn't that gory. I'm looking for something really extreme yet really intelligent at the same time.
Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: Brother Ragnarok on April 13, 2004, 11:33:20 PM
The Item fits nicely into this category, I think.  It's intelligent not so much in the "heavy Romero-esque social commentary" sense, but it's funny and interesting and well-written.

Brother R

Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: Gecko Brothers on April 15, 2004, 07:16:14 PM
Mabey Black Hawk Down or Band of Brothers. Saving Private Ryan wouldn't be in it  because of the red stuff is in the beginning.
Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: eeeee5 on April 15, 2004, 08:32:08 PM
.  .  .  .  Cronenberg's The Fly is a "gloppola" fest, but maybe it's a little too mainstream for you.  I like others but they are not really extremely gory.



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Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: Eirik on April 16, 2004, 09:10:53 PM
Reservoir Dogs
Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: jga on April 17, 2004, 01:55:33 PM
yeah, war movies are good. Reservoir Dogs is pretty good too. I'll probably check out The Item, only found it on VHS though. It the Fly the one with Jeff Goldblum? That one was cool, had some cool gross effects.

Anyone know if Shivers is any good?

"Bizarre parasites lead the inhabitants of a high-rise apartment building to go on an orgy of violence. Horror and some humor mix in director Cronenberg's breakthrough hit. "

"...The satirical edge remains sharp and the opening and closing scenes retain terrific power..." - Sight and Sound 01/01/2002"
Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: Mr_Vindictive on April 17, 2004, 03:28:31 PM
Shivers.......shivers is a strange film.

Big horror film about "love leeches"

Check it out, but be ready for something strange.

Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: JohnL on April 18, 2004, 10:46:13 AM
I agree, Shivers is a very strange film. Plus the idea of large parasites burrowing into your body and living there creeps me out.
Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: Yaddo42 on April 18, 2004, 03:43:37 PM
"Gangster No. 1" - starring Malcolm McDowell and Paul Bettany as older and younger versions of the same sadistic psychotic mobster. It has several drawn out torture/murders including at least one mostly shot from the viewpoint of the victim. A good, not great film, but still very underappreciated.

"Society" - the Bryan Yuzna horror/social satire about the rich being monster perying on the lower classes.

The "Lone Wolf and Cub" films are extremely bloody over the top samurai adventures based on a long running manga series, but the films have great detail of samurai and Japanese feudal culture. The tapes that were available for a long time( haven't seen the DVD version but want them) had lots of footnotes explaining details of Japanese culture that most Westerners wouldn't understand as a part of the story.
Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: Max Gardner on April 18, 2004, 05:04:00 PM
The only ones that come immediately to mind (I'm sure there are others I've forgotten) are Cemetery Man, Starship Troopers and Dog Soldiers.  If I think of any others, I'll let you know.
Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: Desslar on April 18, 2004, 11:24:08 PM
I've heard the Japanese gangster film Ichi the Killer contains all kinds of hideous gore.
Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: jga on April 20, 2004, 10:19:26 PM
I heard Ichi the Killer was disturbing too, I've had it on my DVD wishlist for awhile. I've been wanting to get Cemetery Man but never seen a real DVD yet, except for the Spanish one on ebay.

I'll check out Society, Gangster No.1, and Lone Wolf. I think I've seen some of Lone Wolf comics mentioned in Wizard.
Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: onionhead on April 22, 2004, 03:29:02 AM
Taxi Driver, though most of the gore is at the end.

Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: onionhead on April 22, 2004, 03:29:13 AM
Taxi Driver, though most of the gore is at the end.

Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: evnodr on May 07, 2004, 11:48:47 AM
I realize this is kinda old, and no one's written anything in about 2 weeks, but ...

Try Stan Brakhage's abstract meditation on death and the human body "The Act of Seeing with One's Own Eyes" (keep in mind, that's all real autopsy footage).  Or possibly Matthew Barney's Cremaster 3 (lots of bizarre imagery here, a bit of gore, but, yes, it's impossible to see because there are only about 10 copies in existence).

If you're looking for more narrative works ... sorry, can't help you there.
Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: The Ghoul on May 10, 2004, 04:26:57 PM
Here's a great cult movie that has some decent gore and is intelligent in a Twilight Zone kind of way. "The Cube" came out just a few years ago, made by some sick Canadians. It's about some weird prison maze that maims & kills in unexpected ways with each door opened. Fun for the whole family!!
Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: jga on May 13, 2004, 10:07:22 PM
Cube looks interesting, I was just reading reviews about it the other day.


"Or possibly Matthew Barney's Cremaster 3 (lots of bizarre imagery here, a bit of gore, but, yes, it's impossible to see because there are only about 10 copies in existence)."

Cremaster 3 is also known as The Order right? The guy on the cover looks freaky.
Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: Ravenlocke on May 17, 2004, 12:05:33 PM
I'd say Kill Bill Vol. 1 in that it is pretty much a samurai film homage and the Japanese spoken is pretty much authentic by the people who speak it and their station in the main scheme of things even though there was probably only a day or two filming in Japan for the scene of Uma on the motorcycle(the Okinawa and 50s style izakaya sets were obviously just that).
Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: Hugomarink on May 21, 2004, 08:18:39 PM
Yeah, "Cube" is pretty darn good! A riveting movie. I recommend it.

Andy
Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: Max Gardner on May 22, 2004, 12:55:22 AM
Cube is very creepy and tense - but horribly acted, so prepare for some pain in that department.
Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: Kory on May 22, 2004, 06:23:59 AM
I liked "Cube" as well.   Have you seen "Cube 2"?  I haven't gotten around to renting it and I don't know anyone that's seen it.
Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: JohnL on May 23, 2004, 04:36:05 AM
>I liked "Cube" as well. Have you seen "Cube 2"? I haven't gotten around to
>renting it and I don't know anyone that's seen it.

It aired on the SciFi channel last year, so many of the people here including myself have seen it. It's also going to air again next Sat. at 3pm (EST) on SciFi.

Most people didn't like it as well as the first one. Where the original cube was set inside a semi-belivable mechanical construction, Cube 2 seems to be in some kind of virtual reality. Some rooms lead to the future or the past or have other weird traps. The problem I had with it was that you never feel as if the characters have any hope of figuring out how to get out of it, as nothing makes sense and you would probably need a supercomputer to figure out the layout of the rooms. I don't want to spoil the ending, but it doesn't make sense at all and will leave you thinking WTF??? (What The F***)
Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: Kory on May 23, 2004, 12:36:35 PM
good to know- thanks!
Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: Fluffy Bastard on May 26, 2004, 08:29:41 AM
Check out ExistenZ. Virtual reality film in which the characters make their weapons from bones and intestines
Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: bradleyhadcroft on May 26, 2004, 12:25:00 PM
the film you are looking for is called "trouble every day". its art house cinema , almost immpossible to under stand and totally utterly unforgetable. Buy it uncut on the net , invite some poor unsuspecting friends round for the night and enjoy the mingling sounds of "what the frigs going on" and projectile vomiting. seriously its class.

best wishes,

  brad.
Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: jga on May 27, 2004, 12:57:22 AM
cool, I found Trouble Everyday, $32 though

http://cweb2.millenianet.com/cgi-bin/ccdbdis.pl?merchant=diabolik01&action=item&ItemID=troubleeverydayuk&inum=1&term=trouble%20every%20day

I might buy that ExistenZ movie, found it for $11
Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: MeAndMyMeatCleaver on May 27, 2004, 01:01:31 AM
Cube, as said above. Very thinky and gory. One of my favorites.

The sequel tries to hard on both accounds and really falls on its self.  Its enjoyable but a fleck of dust compared the orginal.

Word has it Cube 0 is filming right now.

Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: bradleyhadcroft on May 27, 2004, 07:49:36 AM
go to http://www.pokerindustries.com/. you can pick trouble every day up here for $17.99 . i always deal with them and their service is great. its also the best place to pick up the fantastic ichi the killer uncut as well as the magnificent "versus" which kicks total ass in the gore department as well as having a complex plot. Never order mopre that two movies at a time or youll get f**ked on the import tax.I warn you again that trouble every day will suck you in and then spit you out a changed person , and is the most powerful disturbing film since salvador dalis un chien andalou  (you know the one with the sliced eyeball) made in 1929. The only film where faintings during screenings is a reality rather than promotional fiction

best wishes,

  Brad.
Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: ajah on June 02, 2004, 02:21:29 PM
gore movies don't need to be intelligent, stupid
Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: jga on June 03, 2004, 06:34:54 PM
"gore movies don't need to be intelligent, stupid"

Well duh. That's why I'm looking for something different.
Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: Evan3 on June 04, 2004, 11:23:43 PM
Evil Dead is a nice gory intelligent one until the sequals, which are good too.

Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: curiocat on June 08, 2004, 05:26:41 PM
band of bro's, especially the "bastogne" stuff is pretty gory.  And it brought me a new level of understanding of war.

btw - has anyone checked out the new "day of the dead"?  it seems like its going to be an intteligent horror film, picking up some social issues in addition to the zombies.

Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: Mr. Lobo on June 08, 2004, 08:12:29 PM
I guess it depends on how you define lot's of gore...and intellegent.

Here's a subective list

Tetsuo The Iron Man
Night Of The Living Dead
Alien
Suspiria
Un Chien Andalou
Eraserhead
The Shining
Pulp Fiction
Deep Red
Akira
Theatre Of Blood
American Werewolf In London
A Clockork Orange
Resevoir Dogs
Serial Mom
Full Metal Jacket


Your horror host,
Mr. Lobo

Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: jga on June 10, 2004, 02:51:25 AM
I heard Deep Red was boring cause it had a bad story? Can anyone confirm that?

I found one, Naked Blood. It's about this kid that finds a drug that turns pain into pleasure. Lots of people are shown brutally beating themselves. Has social commentary about lack of discipline and people forgetting the consequences for seeking pleasure.
Title: Re: Intelligent films that have lots of gore?
Post by: mr. henry on June 12, 2004, 01:01:02 PM
deep red...just watched it last night as a matter of fact.

like the other dario argento flick i saw, the plot was drawn out and had some holes but the gore is good (not too much though) and there is a creepy mood. worth a shot. good musical score by Goblin...