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I found this page and thought it was kind of funny: Grudge Match (http://www.grudge-match.com/History/ds-enterprise.shtml).

It seems most people believe the Death Star could defeat the Enterprise in approximately 2.3 seconds.

Kind of a one sided fight....

Battlestar Galactica vs Enterprise would be a better match.

Okay, what about a Borg cube vs. the Death Star? Any better?

If you mean the Borg BEFORE they were rurnt in Voyager, Borg Cube all the way.

The Borg were ruined long before Voyager. One word: Hugh.

There are two things the Enterprise could do. They could see if the old corbomite bluff might work, provided Vader's force powers wouldn't allow him to see through it. The other possibility would be to get captured and pulled inside by the tractor beam, then self destruct.

Overall, though, it does seem like a pretty one-sided fight. How about V'Ger vs. the Death Star? They're closer in size and invincibility. Could the superlaser get past V'Ger's defenses, which seam capable of absorbing vast amounts of energy? Would V'Ger be capable of digitizing something as big as the Death Star in one go?

AndyC Wrote:
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> The Borg were ruined long before Voyager. One
> word: Hugh.

Fair Enough.  Let's just say the Borg in the "Q Who."

Could the death star actually destroy the Enterprise?

It always seemed to me that the Death Star was there to destroy planets and didn't really have an defenses against ships.  The Death Star weapon seemed to take a while to warm up, and had to focus on a large (seemingly unmoving) object such as a planet.  I have a feeling that the Enterprise would be able to dodge any attacks from the Death Star itself.

Now, if it was the Enterprise against a fleet of tie fighters......that's a bit different.

In Return of the Jedi, the superlaser was blasting the bigger cruisers, and could even be aimed at an angle. Mind you, that seems less impressive than when they had to point the whole Death Star, warm up for several minutes, then blast a whole planet.

What if you put the Death Star up against the spacecruiser Yamato? Superlaser vs. wave gun. Of course, in the end, the Yamato would be saved by Wildstar and Nova's love, or by Desslok showing up at the last minute with the Gamilon fleet.

Ahh...but what about the Lexx vs. the Death Star?

Or the Death Star vs. John Saxon and his stellar convertor? Or Ender Wiggin and the little doctor? Or a Solarian ship with a nuclear intensifier?

Jeez, how many superweapons are there in science fiction? That's worth a whole other thread.

It depends on which Enterprise.  Normally I'd pick the DS, but if it is ST:TNG, then Wesley Crusher would just reverse the polarity of the tachyon particle stream and reroute them from the main engines to the lasers and presto, yet another BS win for Captain Picard.

I vote for the Death Star.  I recall that there were other turbolaseres geared against big ships, notto mentiomn 100's of distracting TIE fighters.
 By the way, shouldn't Trek be weighing in on this?  
-Ed

A better match would be the Defiant from DS9. A small overpowered ship with a cloaking device a s**tload of those quantum torpedoes, not to mention those rapid fire pulsed phasers and ablative armor. They could take down the DS in one pass.

I love the Defiant. Its my favorite Trek ship.   Fast, basic, packs a wallop. I'd put it against any ship in space.  Heck it was designed as a Borg-buster.
-Ed

Ed Wrote:
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> I love the Defiant. Its my favorite Trek ship.  
> Fast, basic, packs a wallop. I'd put it against
> any ship in space.  Heck it was designed as a
> Borg-buster.
> -Ed

Yeah the Defiant is my favorite ST ship as well.

Death Star vs the Planet Eater from Star Trek : TOS

Although it took a while to destroy a planet, it was more than capable.  It's weapon was a blast of pure 'anti-proton' so effectively an anti-matter cannon.  It had inpenetrable armour and only one weak spot (which unfortunately was big enough to drive a starship through)

I'd give the win to the Death Star only because to attack the DS, the Planet Eater would have to expose it's weak point to the Death Star.

or the updated, warp capable version, with shielding on the mouth,  from the ST:TNG novel Vendetta.  According to the novel the original ship was the prototype of an anti-Borg weapon.  It drove right through a sun and came out unscathed.

As far as V'ger was concerned, didn't it have a number of planets that it had digitized?

Death Star. Because Star Wars is better than Trek.

I have had yet another post vanish into thin air.....

I suggested a Death Star vs Planet Killer from ST:TOS

I give the battle to the Death Star II, only because the planet killer needed to turn it's only vulnerable point towards the DS in order to get a shot at it with it's anti-proton beam.  Now, vs Death Star I, it would depend on which could get the clean shot first.  I'd go with the planet killer.

No, if you go by the ST:TNG novel Vendetta, the planet killer was an early anti-Borg weapon.  The book featured an upgraded, warp capable version with shields over the weak point, which would have kicked serious Death Star ass.  The damn thing drove through a star and came out the other side a little hot but otherwise unscathed.

Book also featured a Ferengi Borg.  He/It  wanted to cut a deal with the Enterprise.....

Your original post is there; if in threaded view, look in the first branch, right under mine my post.

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Lets not forget SDF-! Vs DS.
VF-1 Valkires aginst Ties...yeah, baby!
And that Protoculture cannon would atleast toast the Death Stars serface areas. Toasted, no shields, a perfect set up for a Rebel missle attack.

StarBlazer's Argo's Wave Motion Cannon vs Death Star's main gun

MAD.  Mutually Assured Destruction....

Well, it all depends.

 If it was TOS, everything would come down to a fist fight between Kirk and Darth Vader, in which Kirk's shirt might get torn.

In TNG somebody would simply recalibrate the frequency of the photon flow to set up a progressive single space singularity to create a Rothenburg reaction in Death Star's core. The crew would than have tea with the captain afterwards.

AlexB Wrote:
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> In TNG somebody would simply recalibrate the
> frequency of the photon flow to set up a
> progressive single space singularity to create a
> Rothenburg reaction in Death Star's core.

Watched The Five Doctors last week. First time I'd seen it in over 20 years. When Jon Pertwee uttered his trademark "reverse the polarity of the neutron flow" I noted to my wife that the Doctor was spouting that kind of gibberish years before TNG.

Ha!Ha! "reverse the polarity" was the third Doctor's answer to just about everything.

I think from the very little of Voyager I watched, they were the absolute worst about the technobabble. I remember on DS9 once Sisko ordered Worf to the Defiant ready to track someone's ion trail (or some such) and Worf starts into a explanantion of what it will take. Sisko yelled that he didn't want to know the difficulties, just do it!

trek_geezer Wrote:
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> Ha!Ha! "reverse the polarity" was the third
> Doctor's answer to just about everything.
>
> I think from the very little of Voyager I watched,
> they were the absolute worst about the
> technobabble.

I admit that I was thinking in the first place of Voyager, but the argument holds for the entire TNG universe.