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I noted that in my profile, my karma is 0. What does this mean? Is this a Good Thing?

Everybody has a 0 karma right now as it is a new feature. It is similar to reputation on other boards. If someone likes one of your posts, they can click on the 'applaud' underneath the karma. If they don't like what you have to say, they can click on the 'boo, hiss' underneath the karma (don't anybody get any ideas. :tongueout:). The higher your karma, the more positive votes you have had. It is just a feature though for us to have fun with.

Menard hit the nail on the head. I turned it on for trial, because it provides feedback when someone submits a well-written post or neat idea.  The intent is not to "boo, hiss" people you disagree with, but those who are being rude or unfair to others.  I hope that most of its use comes from rewarding interesting posts.

Cool.  Now I'll have to start coming up with interesting posts.

I was wondering just what this was as well. Thanks for the info.

Now comes the stupid question: Can I just not see my own applaud / boo buttons so that I don't artificially manipulate my own Karma?

/My karma ran over your dogma.

Uhhhh...

please, don't manipulate your own Karma while any of us are within line of sight...    :bouncegiggle:

(Damn, that little bounce giggle thing is annoying.)

Correct.  And I agree with Zapranoth too.

Aaaalll righty, then: No auto-karmanipulation in public. Gotcha. :tongueout:

My Karma smells kinda funny.
I think it's gone bad.

I object to this karma feature!

Sure...it works well when positive gestures are given.
But what about the negativity and harsh emotions it can produce when someone votes against you?

On 11-15-06 I posted a thread about a hilarious fart video.
That video just happened to be on an adult website.
In my post, I gave ample warning that it was on a website for adults only.
So I posted it anyway, and within a half hour it was removed and I was given a negative karma by one of our fellow members.  (notice my -1 Karma...oh wait...now it's zero)

I feel that this karma feature is judgemental, favoritist and not warranted here.

After all, when you really think about it, when you select a karma preference, you're essentially passing judgement on that person.

Is that what we really want here?
People passing judgement on one another?
(It can create hard feelings and resentment)

I vote NO!

This karma feature works both ways.

If you receive positive votes...it makes you feel good.
But what about guys like me who live to push the envelope and may sometimes write threads that some people find questionable?
Guys like me who are controversial by our very nature?

Is it really fair?

I don't think so.

Better to be without it in my opinion....

Okay, you are back at 0 now.

Just keep posting like you normally do.

Even if you do rub somebody the wrong way (and we all know what a minimalist chance that is (http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Laughing/lol-065.gif) ) any positives you get will outway any negatives just by the fact of the response your posts generate (it is a little too soon to start talking about toilet paper again so wipe that smile off your face).  :teddyr:

While it CAN be misused, many folks use the negative karma only against trolls and flamers.  I don't think it should be used in cases where you simply disagree with someone or are uninterested in their thread/post.


Judgemental - yes.  Favoritist - No.  What's wrong with a little judgement once in a while?  *IF* (a big, hypothetical if) you post messages that continually get other board users to give you negative karma, that should be taken BY YOU as an indication that the board, as a 'voting body,' does not like your posts.

I'll give you an example.  On another board I frequent, we have one user who responds to EVERY THREAD - every single one.  His replies are often simply "me too" responses, and other times he tells folks what they should and should not do, even if they have FAR more experience than he does.  In short, he increases the "noise" of the board by a significant degree, and antagonizes many other users.  He has even called folks names for misunderstanding things he wrote very poorly.

He gets negative karma.  It helps others, perhaps those new to the site, see how seriously he should be taken.  It's not absolute, and again it can be misused.


That's right.  You are communicating to that person, anonymously, "I did not like what you wrote."  Just like in real life conversation, I can use body language and facial expressions to communicate, little things like karma help the overall communication on the board.


Sure, why not?  If I behave like an a$$, I would want someone to point it out to me.  Contrary to many misimpressions, the 'Net is NOT a place of totally anonymous, consequence-free environment where one should say whatever ridiculous or flamebait, trollish thing that they want.


That's cool.  Don't use it.  And ignore it.  In the end, it really does not mean anything unless you LET it mean something.


Well, there is the rub.  *IF* you get a lot of negative karma for being controversial, maybe, MAYBE that is the other users of this board trying to tell you they don't want "controversial" on this site.  (as you might now be thinking it was ME who boo'd you, it wasn't; reading your post here was the first I heard of that other thread or your karma reduction - I'm speaking philosophically).

That's my two cents.  In summary:  it MAY communicate a real dislike of topic choice, it may mean nothing.  It's really just a gimmick, a toy.

Ulthar...you were the one person here I expected who would give the biggest and most detailed response and you definitely delivered.   :thumbup:

I dunno. A negative response is a response nontheless. At least your not ignored or boring. think of it this way...the Sex Pistols got bad "karma" all the time....and became famous!

Forgive me for the short earlier post.
I was too tired to write a more lengthy reply.

I appreciate what you're saying ulthar and thanks for being friendly about it.
I just don't care for this karma feature and I think this board would be better off without it.
We never really needed it before...I don't think we need it now.
My opinion of course.

I think I'll follow your advice and just not use it.

And thanks to whoever put me back up to 1 karma.

Oh I was soooooo tempted to press the boo hiss button just to bring you back down again just to annoy you, but thought that it could have been a dangerous thought to poke the beast!   :hatred:

The karma function, whilst possibly misused, seems to serve an odd, yet positive purpose.  Positive because it makes some folk feel better that 'they're getting noticed' I suppose, odd because it just seems like an odd thing to have here.  Personally, whilst I don't mind having it, I also don't mind not having it.

But if it serves up a bit of entertainment when Ash gets another negative karma point [or whatever they're called] then I'm all for it!!   :teddyr:

Ash, are you controverisal and an envelope-pusher IRL? Don't you run the risk of alienating or irritating others there and hearing about it, this is kind of the same thing. Seems to me at least an envelope pusher is usually unconcerned with what others think; it's the point they are making, the discussion that results, or the thoughts they stimulate that matter. To me it's the difference between Dave Chappelle and say Carlos Mencia, one pushed the envelope of comedy, the other just pushes buttons.

The fact that you are concerned about negative karma here is a good sign of sorts. I would be worried about someone who sought to gather negative karma responses, that person would just be a troll or an attention whore.

As the format has been explained it sounds like a way to support good, interesting, and insightful posts or to let others know if they are being rude or out of line rather than playing favorites like high school kids and their cliques. Besides I trust Andrew enough to believe that if he thinks the system is being abused he will change or disable it. Would you prefer an ignore list like some boards have? That could get really petty.

IIRC, you were glad that the number to times a post has been edited feature isn't on the new version of the board.

Then again after seeing the karma system I was surprised mine was anything other than zero, good or bad. Count me in as one of the "I get noticed?" folks. I'm not going to sweat what my rating is for now, life's too short.

I see no need to bring me into this conversation. (http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Tongue/mockery-022.gif)

Touche', Menard, Touche'.

I'm almost tempted to use the "cheers" smiley.

No Menard...I'm not an attention whore.
(could you have made your point any more obvious using my own picture?)

I guess that when stating my opposition to this karma feature, I should have written that I was more "outspoken" than the usual regulars here...which makes me more likely to receive negative karma votes.

I'll now ask you politely Menard....please remove my image from your avatar and never again use my image or my likeness in any way.
Use your own picture.
I didn't give you permission to use mine.

Consider it done Ash.

And no, I was referring to myself as an attention whore, not you. My apologies if in any way I gave you the impression that I was referring to you.

No problem at all.
When reading your earlier post, I thought you were referring to me.
Thanks for clearing that up.

HEY!!! I just noticed I can use the karma feature, allright! :bouncegiggle:

My two cents on the Karma points. :smile:

Ok, I started posting a couple of weeks ago, and I thought you would get Karma points if you solved some of movies people asked about. I did manage to solve one movie (yay me) because I was very familiar with it. But, did I get one single karma point for solving it? No. And I think karma points should be at least given out by Andrew whenever you happen to solve a movie. Bonus points if you solve two or more someone posts about in one thread. And more bonus points for getting your review posted.

Well, I think that there is an unspoken etiquette regarding karma which most people do follow. Was the person who posted the question in the help me forum a regular visitor or just a guest. A guest probably isn't concerned about the karma button. Andrew should not be required to dole out karma in a noted set of rules. You will get karma over time, but don't go looking for it because it doesn't work that way. Everybody here probably has made posts deserving of a karma point but go unheralded. You will get karma over time if you stick it out.

I agree with Justy.
There have been several times where I've helped someone identify a title and got no karma for it.
I don't really expect people to give me karma...but it is a nice gesture.
As a rule, whenever I post a question in the "What Was That Film?" board, I usually give out karma to the first few people who help out in that thread. (assuming only 2-3 people respond)
If a lot of people answer it, then I give karma to the first person who answered correctly.
Sometimes I'll state that I gave them karma.  Other times I don't.

Karma comes as it does.  Over time, if you post things that people think are funny, insightful, interesting, or informative (Slashdot, thou art prior art), people will give you karma now and then. 

Don't really worry about it.  Just post about the things that interest you, or when you want to debate a point that someone else made.  Karma is just here to be fun and provide an avenue to receive feedback.

You mean Andrew hasn't sent you the $250 check yet?

Oops...maybe I wasn't supposed to say anything!  :wink:

I agree, karma is based on people's opinions of your posts and it is their choice on if you get karma or not, I normally give out karma for funny or insightful posts so congrats to those of you who are a teeny bit higher on the karma scale from Patient7 :cheers:

From
http://www.ncf.ca/freenet/rootdir/menus/sigs/religion/buddhism/introduction/truths/karma2.html

The Law of Karma
In Buddhist teaching, the law of karma, says only this: `for every event that occurs, there will follow another event whose existence was caused by the first, and this second event will be pleasant or unpleasant according as its cause was skillful or unskillful.'

So applied here in a very general way: "skillful" posts will by their nature generate pleasant responses in the readers, who may by way of appreciation bestow "karma" upon the poster.
 
(And yes, I realize that I am not doing justice to the actual Buddhist concepts of "skillful" and "unskillful". "Unskillfulness" implies a certain...mean-spiritedness....on the part of the originator, so that could apply too, in terms of negative karma.   But I kinda like the way the idea of "skillfullness" "fits" when stretched a little for our purposes, in this context.)

I just try to be polite to people on this board and post thoughts whenever a thread that interests me comes along.  I have very rarely given anyone negative karma here. In fact, the only times that I have is when someone has tried to be malicious to me or malicious to someone else on the board that I respect.

Thankfully that doesn't happen hardly at all here which is the reason I got completely fed up with Rotten Tomatoes and a few other sites that I used to frequent but stopped due to all of the constant negativity and badgering.   

Does anyone want to mention who they've given the most karma to in the past?  I usually give good karma to people who make me laugh.  I get the most laughs from the Bad Movie Picture War and Captions threads so if you've posted something in there, I've more than likely given you good karma.