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Title: The Thing and Hobbit news
Post by: trekgeezer on November 20, 2006, 06:30:54 PM
John Carpenter's The Thing is either getting remade or is getting a sequel depending on which rumor you read. According to this SciFi Wire article (http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=3&id=38953) Ronald D. Moore who developed the new Battlestar Galactica series will be writing the script.

What I'm worried about is the guy producing it is the same guy who did The Fog remake.


I don't know who here is a fan of Peter Jackson's LOTR films, but this will come as bad news to those who are.  Looks like Jackson will not be directing the Hobbit because of his lawsuit against New Line over their questionable accounting practices.

Read the email (http://www.theonering.net/staticnews/1163993546.html) he wrote to the folks at theonering.net.

This really sucks.


Title: Re: The Thing and Hobbit news
Post by: Andrew on November 20, 2006, 06:43:31 PM
I can deal with the news about "The Thing."  A good writer and director can keep a bad producer at bay and still create a good film.  And, I can say that the writing for BSG has been good (well, except for the one crazy CO/Maint Chief who fixed Pegasus with a wrench in the middle of a battle).

The real bad news, and you already pointed it out, is that Jackson will not be directing "The Hobbit."  After reading his letter, it sounds like Jackson does not like the normal Hollywood sleaze "rub my back and I'll rub yours."  If New Line was trying to play hardball with him, they just lost to the real fans and the news might even make it to Mr. Ordinary Joe on the street.  You know, I spoke with Mike Jittlov a few times on the phone and I think that what turned him off from making movies was just how sleazy Hollywood is inside.  Peter seems to have a thicker hide, so I imagine he will keep plugging.


Title: Re: The Thing and Hobbit news
Post by: ulthar on November 20, 2006, 07:26:05 PM

John Carpenter's The Thing is either getting remade or is getting a sequel depending on which rumor you read.


A sequel is a dumb idea given the way THE THING ended.  There was no sequel to that ending.  { queue dumb Hollywood contrived sequel plotline development}

If someone wants to remake it, that's their choice.  I sure hope they don't delude themselves and think they can improve upon it, however.  That movie is a masterpiece on so many levels, not the least of which was the creativity of Rob Bottin.


Title: Re: The Thing and Hobbit news
Post by: Ash on November 20, 2006, 09:11:27 PM
Well, The Thing did have a video game spinoff and the events in it start shortly after the first film ended.
You know what?  The storyline in it actually wasn't bad.
It kind of reminded me of "Aliens". 
A team of highly armed rescuers fly in to see what happened, realize that everyone's dead and what happened at the camp.
They find the flying saucer and MacReady's voice recordings...etc, etc...
Then, one by one, the soldiers become taken over by The Thing and the paranoia begins.
They ultimately realize, just like the first group, that the creature must not be allowed to escape Antarctica.

I never played all the way through the game but I can tell you that the story & the gameplay did pull me in.
You were always suspicious if the guy next to you was a Thing or not and you had to do random blood tests to be sure.

If the sequel to The Thing is anything like the story in the video game, count me in.
I'll definitely go see it.


Title: Re: The Thing and Hobbit news
Post by: Shadow on November 20, 2006, 10:14:02 PM
When I read the title of this thread, for just a second I had a horrifying image of a cinematic crossover between the two films mentioned.  :teddyr:


Title: Re: The Thing and Hobbit news
Post by: odinn7 on November 20, 2006, 11:56:34 PM
When I read the title of this thread, for just a second I had a horrifying image of a cinematic crossover between the two films mentioned.  :teddyr:

That would be SWEET! I would definitely go to see that.


Title: Re: The Thing and Hobbit news
Post by: Doc Daneeka on November 21, 2006, 05:37:18 AM
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John Carpenter's The Thing is either getting remade
NO NO NO!
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or is getting a sequel
YES YES YES! (depending on whether or not it follows the game storyline, and also doesn't try and be a "2000s movie" bleh...)
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When I read the title of this thread, for just a second I had a horrifying image of a cinematic crossover between the two films mentioned.
O-kay... Ooh, Ooh! What other "Thing" crossovers can we think of?



Title: Re: The Thing and Hobbit news
Post by: odinn7 on November 21, 2006, 09:27:36 AM
O-kay... Ooh, Ooh! What other "Thing" crossovers can we think of?


How about The Thing-Gigli...


Title: Re: The Thing and Hobbit news
Post by: ulthar on November 21, 2006, 09:29:55 AM

O-kay... Ooh, Ooh! What other "Thing" crossovers can we think of?


THE THING 2: LEGALLY BLONDE
THE THING MEETS GIGLI  (dang it Odinn, you beat me by seconds)

I may think of some more later...


Title: Re: The Thing and Hobbit news
Post by: dean on November 21, 2006, 09:35:24 AM

The upside of a Thing-Gigli is the fact that the effects department doesn't need to go too crazy on monster effects, since the combination of Affleck and Lopez is terrifying enough already...

The downside is I'd probably love the film just for the premise alone!


Title: Re: The Thing and Hobbit news
Post by: odinn7 on November 21, 2006, 11:17:14 AM
The Thing On Golden Pond

The Thing On Titanic

The Thing and Fried Green Tomatoes


Title: Re: The Thing and Hobbit news
Post by: ulthar on November 21, 2006, 12:38:43 PM
Switching gears just a little bit:

The Thing After School Special
The Thing - Survivor Island
The Thing - Deal or No Deal
Lost with The Thing
Law and Order: Special Thing Unit
CST: Crime Scene Thing


Title: Re: The Thing and Hobbit news
Post by: Scott on November 21, 2006, 10:17:57 PM
I'll start working on a script................I can see it now. THINGLI (2007) Staring Kurt Russell and Jennifer Lopez.

(http://www.videovista.net/articles/thing1.jpg)(http://www.virgin.net/movies/galleries/jenniferlopez/pix/08_main.jpg)


Title: Re: The Thing and Hobbit news
Post by: odinn7 on November 21, 2006, 10:41:03 PM
Thingli...good stuff.

Here's another one:

The Thing of Oz


Title: Re: The Thing and Hobbit news
Post by: Andrew on November 21, 2006, 10:44:38 PM
I'll start working on a script................I can see it now. THINGLI (2007) Staring Kurt Russell and Jennifer Lopez.

I love it, but at some point he douses her with kerosene and sets her ablaze before she can sprout tentacles.  That is going to happen, right?  Please, you have to write that into the script...


Title: Re: The Thing and Hobbit news
Post by: odinn7 on November 21, 2006, 10:49:19 PM
I'll start working on a script................I can see it now. THINGLI (2007) Staring Kurt Russell and Jennifer Lopez.

I love it, but at some point he douses her with kerosene and sets her ablaze before she can sprout tentacles.  That is going to happen, right?  Please, you have to write that into the script...

I need to see Ben in there with Kero and fire too.


Title: Re: The Thing and Hobbit news
Post by: ulthar on November 21, 2006, 11:01:22 PM
THINGLI

LOL

/me wipes tears from eyes


Title: Re: The Thing and Hobbit news
Post by: Scott on November 21, 2006, 11:31:10 PM
Yes, In the movie THINGLI (2007) Kurt sets her a fire :hot:, but Jennifer quickly douses it after another juicy yoga lecture like the one in her prequel hit GIGLI.  Odinn7 already bought tickets.


Title: Re: The Thing and Hobbit news
Post by: dean on November 25, 2006, 01:28:03 AM

If Freddy Vs Jason can happen, so can Thingli.

That all sounds like my dream sequel so far really...

Odinn7 must be over the moon!


Title: Hobbit update
Post by: trekgeezer on November 25, 2006, 08:48:32 PM
First off, you guys have reminded me to take care how I word things since misspeaking here usually ends up with a discussion thread devolving into silliness. (Bless your little pointed heads!)(http://www.websmileys.com/sm/angels/teu79.gif)

Anyway, this news just appeared over at AICN:

    From IMDB

    As Lord of the Rings fans mounted a protest following word that New Line had dropped Peter Jackson from consideration as director of The Hobbit and another Lord of the Rings prequel, producer Saul Zaentz has given assurances that Jackson will indeed direct the two films. A German website, Elbenwald.de, posted an interview with Zaentz, who acquired the rights to the works of the late Rings writer, J.R.R. Tolkien, in 1976 (the Saul Zaentz Company owns Tolkien Enterprises), in which Zaentz says, "It will definitely be shot by Peter Jackson. ... Next year The Hobbit rights will fall back to my company. I suppose that Peter will wait because he knows that he will make the best deal with us. And he is fed up with the studios: to get his profit share on the Rings trilogy he had to sue New Line. With us, in contrast, he knows that he will be paid fairly and artistically supported without reservation." (The preceding quotation is a translation that appeared on TheHobbit-Movie.com from the German interview posted on Elbenwald.de.)

This could get interesting.


Title: Re: Hobbit update
Post by: Andrew on November 25, 2006, 08:59:46 PM
    From IMDB

    As Lord of the Rings fans mounted a protest following word that New Line had dropped Peter Jackson from consideration as director of The Hobbit and another Lord of the Rings prequel, producer Saul Zaentz has given assurances that Jackson will indeed direct the two films. A German website, Elbenwald.de, posted an interview with Zaentz, who acquired the rights to the works of the late Rings writer, J.R.R. Tolkien, in 1976 (the Saul Zaentz Company owns Tolkien Enterprises), in which Zaentz says, "It will definitely be shot by Peter Jackson. ... Next year The Hobbit rights will fall back to my company. I suppose that Peter will wait because he knows that he will make the best deal with us. And he is fed up with the studios: to get his profit share on the Rings trilogy he had to sue New Line. With us, in contrast, he knows that he will be paid fairly and artistically supported without reservation." (The preceding quotation is a translation that appeared on TheHobbit-Movie.com from the German interview posted on Elbenwald.de.)

That is interesting.  If this is all true (with no hidden traps) and Zaentz holds the final trump card of who can make the movie, it means that Peter Jackson's gamble pays off and New Line tried to force his hand the wrong way.  In my case, I am glad.  Peter seems like he just loves to make movies and make them the way he thinks they should, no matter what.  In some ways that is dangerous, but I can respect it.

I wonder if New Line could still put out a sucky quicky while they have the rights to make it.


Title: Re: The Thing and Hobbit news
Post by: trekgeezer on November 25, 2006, 09:21:57 PM
I also saw a small piece somewhere that someone at MGM (who would distribute the films for New Line) had said that the door was not closed on Peter doing the films.

I hope it works out  and I think personally that New Line would have a hard time getting a first rate director to take on the task.


Title: Re: The Thing and Hobbit news
Post by: Dennis on November 26, 2006, 09:03:38 PM
Peter Jackson did a great job with The Lord of the Rings, those three movies were a perfect translation of a great novel into a movie, usually the movie makers find a way to screw up a good story. Jackson should rightfully direct The Hobbit since he has demonstrated a grasp of the material, I hope the producers feel the same way, but I don't count on it. Anymore in the movie industry the bottom line seems to be all that counts.


Title: Re: The Thing and Hobbit news
Post by: RCMerchant on December 02, 2006, 10:53:20 AM
I have never seen any of the LOTR films. Or read the books. Am I a weirdo? I only seen one STAR WARS film,the first one at a theatre in the 70"s,and I never watched any of the spin off STAR TREK tv shows either(i loved the original series. I haven't seen the remake of the HILLS HAVE EYES (though I've heard it's quite good), and think a remake of the THING would be a BIG mistake! I fear a sequel on the grounds that they my use CGI instead of an imaginative fx crew on the helm.


Title: Re: The Thing and Hobbit news
Post by: Doc Daneeka on December 02, 2006, 11:01:50 AM
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I have never seen any of the LOTR films. Or read the books. Am I a weirdo?
I dunno, am I a weirdo?

Oh yeah, yes.

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I fear a sequel on the grounds that they my use CGI instead of an imaginative fx crew on the helm.
Now that's something I fear as well, but I sadly imagine it will be unavoidable in this day and age. The monsters in the Carpenter film looked so damn cool but the cg will probably turn out some garden variety demon things, well at least we still have the first. :bluesad:


Title: Re: The Thing and Hobbit news
Post by: ulthar on December 02, 2006, 12:52:03 PM

well at least we still have the first.


You mean the second, right?  THE THING itself was a remake.


Title: Re: The Thing and Hobbit news
Post by: Dennis on December 02, 2006, 02:38:05 PM
The original  "Thing" was a great black and white movie very loosely based on the short story Who Goes There by Campbell, takes place at the arctic, not the anarctic and though it has a frozen alien (James Arness in his first title role) that's where the similarity to the short story ends, the movie though stands on its own and is really quite good. The John Carpenter version takes place in the correct location and is much closer to the Campbell story, again it's a movie that stands on its own, both are great films. I think that a remake of either one would probably be disapointing but a sequel to the Carpenter film is a possibility and could be good if done correctly. The problem with most sequels is that they're made to get a quick buck and not for any other reason which is why they usually are bad. 


Title: Re: The Thing and Hobbit news
Post by: Jim H on December 15, 2006, 03:40:48 PM
Can someone who has beaten the game tell me if MacReady makes an appearance?  I remember hearing that he does.

That said, I agree that a remake of The Thing is a waste of time.  There's next to nothing to improve upon.


Title: Re: The Thing and Hobbit news
Post by: BeyondTheGrave on December 17, 2006, 12:32:48 PM
Can someone who has beaten the game tell me if MacReady makes an appearance?  I remember hearing that he does.

That said, I agree that a remake of The Thing is a waste of time.  There's next to nothing to improve upon.

I beat the the game MacReady does make a appereance at the end. He picks your charather up in a helicopter and helps you fight the last boss of the game. I don't remember if he says anything about how escaped it been awhile.


Title: Re: The Thing and Hobbit news
Post by: RCMerchant on December 18, 2006, 07:21:34 AM
I know this has nothing to do with the THING,but I finally got to see the HILLS remake: I LOVED IT> Maybe there is hope for remakes in the future,if their done as well as this one.Maybe if the Thing was set in a different locale might make it interesting...like in a warzone,or have it take over a whole city,with an atomic bomb being the last means of defense.kinda like a bodysnatchers or NotLD feel...I dunno...