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Title: CHUD
Post by: venture82@aol.com on October 29, 1998, 06:53:52 PM
I own chud, did you ever notice how well lit sewer tunnels are or how discarded government equipment is always in perfect condition?


Title: CHUD
Post by: David Emery on November 19, 1998, 08:02:55 PM
I didn't care much for this movie...not enough gore action, pretty cool prosthetics though. I've always been curious what Daniel Stern would be like if he played a dirty soup kitchen guy...yeah that's pretty much what I pictured.


Title: CHUD
Post by: jen deacon {kat_face@geocities.com} on November 26, 1998, 09:19:33 AM
ugh... this movie was painful to watch.  a lot of it was predictable (i mean, c'mon, even for a b-movie).  bad effects, bad lighting... awful.  i still shake my head everytime i go to the video store and see "C.H.U.D." and "C.H.U.D. II" on the shelf.  


Title: CHUD
Post by: 5kelly@internet.net on January 05, 1999, 07:08:47 PM
Everyone else on this sight seems to think that CHUD sucked, but I liked it, it's one of the best cannibal flicks ever. If you like this you should check out "Parents," my personal fav. cannibal flick. (And if you didn't like it: vice versa).


Title: CHUD
Post by: Squishy The Squid on March 02, 1999, 01:58:26 PM
The scene at the end, where the cops are attacked at the diner, is talked about by characters half-way through the picture, suggesting some haphazard last-minute editing. This kind of "Whoops! Aw, who cares"-type editing can also be seen in NIGHT OF THE LEPUS (oh, please, burn this film)when a family in a station wagon drives past the hitch-hiking hero about thirty minutes after they were found dead. (Guess the kids were too cute. No they weren't.)


Title: CHUD
Post by: docrog@sprynet.com on March 24, 1999, 12:18:21 AM
I have to say that I was almost dreading watching this movie.  Not only had I heard bad things about it from other people, but I watched C.H.U.D. 2:  Bud the Chud—the horror film that currently holds my “worst of all time” title—less than a week before.  What a difference!  C.H.U.D. is a great film.  There are plenty of scares, thrills, artfully done gore, and the soundtrack works incredibly with the mood of the film.  At times, the atmosphere actually reminded me a bit of Dawn of the Dead.  In my opinion, the campy performances work well, and add to the comic book horror style of the film—a style I’ve always enjoyed.  Don’t let negative reviews stop you from checking out C.H.U.D.  Also don’t let a viewing of Bud the Chud scare you off.  Horror fans of 70s and 80s films by directors such as George Romero and Larry Cohen who can approach C.H.U.D. without preconceptions are bound to enjoy it.



Title: CHUD
Post by: William on March 24, 1999, 10:16:21 AM
  C.H.U.D. is an awesome movie!  It had some of the coolest monsters ever to apear in film.  I just wish you saw them more often.  The acting was good, too.  Go see CHUD.  You will not regret it.


Title: CHUD
Post by: C_Mon_D on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
Obviously, CHUD is a terrible, terrible 80's B-Movie.
However, it is, in a way, one of the best movies I have ever seen, becuase it's so crappy and B-ish, it just makes you smile. I was overcome with joy when I saw this board- so many people, brought together by CHUD's.
<Sniff>
PS- Can't wait to see if CHUD 3 is produced!!!


Title: CHUD
Post by: srvo@hotmail.com on August 17, 1999, 12:17:57 PM
I saw this film both on regular TV and on video.  On regular TV, the John Goodman restaurant scene is in the middle of the film. There is a little more footage to that scene where Goodman's character and his cop buddy sexually harass the waitress before becoming CHUD fodder.
  On another note, I thought CHUD was another example of an intriguing premise that was executed in a less-than-desirable manner.  Some of the script was not very creative and the editing was poor.  However, I thought it was smart to limit the shots of the monsters (a la "Alien") and I enjoyed watching John Heard and Daniel Stern in types of roles that they never played again in future movies.  The music was pretty cool, too.  CHUD isn't great, but I still enjoy watching it once in a blue moon!


Title: CHUD
Post by: Stefan Robak on February 20, 2000, 11:36:07 AM
I wold just like to point out 3 CHUD referances that were funny as Hell: 1) On the Simpsons Homer is falling of a building and grabs on to Otto who's bungee jumping.  Homer grabs on to him and his extra weight streches out the bungee more enough to send them down a man hole.  Homers sees sees CHUDs, Morlocks and Molemen. 2) Homer explains he fell down into the sewer when he was chased by a pimp in New York and then said "and that's when the CHUDs came after me. 3) on the Critic a movie critic is being bribed to give a movie a good review.  The critic states: "This made Hud look like CHUD.  And I loved Hud."  Jay says he'll report him to the critics society and the other critc says: "They're at the buffet."  Then you see all these guys at a buffet and a man who says: "Sorry this table is reserved for Roger Ebert."


Title: CHUD
Post by: midntcwboy@aol.com on March 08, 2000, 07:01:38 PM
I instantly fell in love with CHUD. I had passed it so many times in various places, and was always intesely curious what those fine letters stood for. Imagine my jubilance when I discovered that they meant "cannibalistic humanoid underground dwellers" or as Daniel stern figure out later, "contamination hazardous urban disposal." CHUD has got to be the best of the worst, a B-movie triumph. If any one knows where I can acquire a copy of CHUD 2:Bud the CHUD, e-mail me and let me know. how could i possibly miss out on a sequel that follows a movie where they have lines such as: "That doesn't wash, Bosch."


Title: CHUD
Post by: ebolamonk@yahoo.com on May 05, 2000, 10:57:08 AM
C.H.U.D. rocked.  I love cheesy monster movies, and I hate CGI.  Long live rubber suits.  C.H.U.D. is a perfect example of great suits and cheesy filmmaking.  And Daniel Stern rocks.  Not to mention this flick had a better-than-average prophet of doom.  The twitchy guy with the knife kicked ass, too.  Just one complaint.  Someone seems to have...chudded on the box of the copy that I rented.  Ick.


Title: CHUD
Post by: Samzilla on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
Though I have never seen the movie, the chud creatures seem to bare a great resemblance to creatures encountered in the video game "Splatter house 2"


Title: CHUD
Post by: Chadzilla on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
Anyone ever notice that the diner attack sequence was removed from the middle of the movie and placed at the end to create a sequel hook?  Look again.  New World Pictures (who produced this really inventive satire/horror movie) evidently had a lot of faith in this movie, too bad it didn't fly.  CHUD II: Bud the Chud was an absolutely atrocious in name only sequel directed by David (as in Amy's brother) Irving.  

Screenwriter Parnell Hall is a part time Private Investigator that writes a series of comic murder mysteries involving the struggling writer/private investigator Stanley Hastings.  When Stanley had a screenplay produced and destroyed by Hollywood hacks (revenge anyone, anyone?) the dust jacket of Hall showed him clowning around with one of the C.H.U.D. on the set of his own horrible movie experience.


Title: CHUD
Post by: Chris K. on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
C.H.U.D. has it's momets. It just depends on which version you are watching. If you are asking their are more than just one version? Yes their is. In fact, not is their only two versions but three exist. The theatrical release version, the edited down re-issue version, and the TV version. The first version was released by New World Pictures totally uncut at the running time of 100 minutes. It didn't do so well and New World took C.H.U.D. and cut the film down to 88 minutes and it still was a box office failure. The scene with the two cops (one was a young John Goodman) in the diner was in the middle of the film, but in the re-issue version it was placed at the end to state that "the horror is not over" deal. The TV version contains some sequences that were cut from the theatrical version and also had the attack diner scene in the middle of the film. Personally, I have seen both the re-isssue 88 minute version and the TV version, but since Anchor Bay Entertainment is planning on issuing C.H.U.D. on video and DVD I hope they will release the original 100 minute version just to show us what the difference was. All in all, the make up effects were excellent and the acting was pretty good. Daniel Stern is both hillarious and straight forward as the Reverend who owns the soup kitchen. The lighting was also good (My TV copy actually has dark lighting on it. Is it the print quality? Who knows? All I know is that my TV picture was on the 45 brightness so I can see it better.) The gore effects were somewhat unconvincing, but some were still gross as Hell. I was dissapointed that we did not get to see the C.H.U.D.'s were not eating their victims on screen, but that could be some of the footage cut on the TV and re-issue version. C.H.U.D. is still a good film worthy of three stars. Let me just say this, would you rather want to watch a good film like C.H.U.D or a bad film like TITANIC. It is your choce.


Title: CHUD
Post by: Irving Berlin on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
If you appreciate C.H.U.D.'s underlying message checkout the life's work of it's producer: Andrew Bonime.   Nice to know that someone isn't in it for the money.


Title: CHUD
Post by: Rabid Ryan on February 19, 2001, 05:41:12 PM
C.H.U.D. is one nifty little monster movie. With some more monster shots and gore, this could have really been something. Would rather pay to see something like this than some teeny bob slasher flick like Scream, etc. Just to bad that blond never got naked.........sigh.


Title: CHUD
Post by: (Mucus Devour) on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
The chud extended it's neck for a reason,to help it see.she threw acid waste in the cannilbastic hummiod mutation's face.he couldn't see intil that neck came out,you could tell right when he did it  when she moved her position, it kept it's  radio-active glowing orb looking eye's at her.and yes!The movie kicked ass!  


Title: CHUD
Post by: Super Saiyan Goku on November 18, 2001, 06:12:57 PM
Gee, I didnt know Daniel Stern was an expert marksman, he shot wilson in the heart! And another thing, no offense to you, but knowing THIS country, there probably would be nuclear waste in the sewers of new york.


Title: CHUD
Post by: LordArthur75062 on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
I thought  the movie was good as a tale of urban sci-fi/horror.the high point was the C.H.U.D. themselves,and except for the neck-stretching scene,they make very capable cousins to H.G. Wells' Morlocks.


Title: CHUD
Post by: bosco on November 25, 2006, 04:09:03 PM
first of all, sorry for my poor english...i am belgian!

I would like to say that chud was one of the first horror movies i watched when i was young. I liked it very much and even now i still appreciate it. The action music and speed of the movies where very good for that year. I hope that actual movies producers will still working for making movies as good as this one.


Title: CHUD
Post by: Andrew Bonime on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
Loved it. Hated It. Sucked. Rocks. Lots of debate here for a little horror movie I made in 1983. To find out what REALLY happened during the shooting (and after) and to set the record straight (the commentary track on the DVD is mostly WRONG), check out www.chudfacts.com There's a lot of behind-the-scenes photos, too.

Andrew Bonime,
PRODCUER of C.H.U.D.

BTW, In case anyone's interested, my next film is going to be Beverly Hills Skin. It's scarier and has a big studio budget and stars (I can't say more at this point).


Title: CHUD
Post by: AlphaWoolf on September 30, 2002, 05:13:17 PM
By far the best part of this movie is the title, which has since passed into mainstream popular culture thanks to The Simpsons New York episode.  Beyond that, I found this movie to be a stupendous bore.  ZZZZZZZZZ


Title: CHUD
Post by: spankable Janet on October 29, 2002, 08:10:39 PM
The very best part of the holy grail that is CHUD is when the Reverend shows up at the board meeting with a bag full of evidence...and we noticed EVEN HIS PAPER BAG IS DIRTY!


Title: CHUD
Post by: Molly on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
i know the guy who wrote the screen play for CHUD, and interesting human himself having a hummoring fat cat and a CHUD head in his apartment in a box. He said that CHUD's were supposed to move quick and be sneaky...humm guess that didnt work.
he wrote another CHUD film (he didnt write CHUD II) i think i read half of it or so based on punk rock kids and CHUDS and crazy stuff. Shep is a mad man


Title: CHUD
Post by: Riff on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
Okay, this movie wasn't great, but it wasn't 2 slimes either. The CHUD looked very gnarly, and the plot wasn't bad. I can't wait to see the seuqal!

3 slimes


Title: CHUD
Post by: Ooze on December 15, 2002, 02:13:26 AM
Hey remember that Simpsons episode where Homer jumps off a skyscraper to commit suicide but in mid fall grabs onto Rocko who happens to be bungi jumping, but hes so heavy that they stretch the cord and go down through a manhole and encounter C.H.U.D.S? Now that was funny!


Title: CHUD
Post by: Saint Thomas on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
I love this movie!  C.H.U.D is one of the best horror movies of the 80's.  Sure the effects are kinda' dated for todays youth.  Maybe it seemed more realistic back then.  Over all this movie is sweet!


Title: CHUD
Post by: (the fan) on 8 -30 -2003 nyc on September 01, 2003, 02:32:36 AM
C.H.U.D is my favorite horror of all time. i remember seeing it in the movies back in  84, i own the dvd version and its even better  than the 84 version it has a diffrent and better feel to it the added footage makes a diffrence.The glowy eyed monsters are one of the scrariest monsters i ever saw on a horror flick, i live in nyc and that dinner is still there on layfette street much samller but was kool to see it there. Soho is the area where the movie was shot and it still looks as bumming today in 2003 as it did in 1984. just imagin how much better this movie could have been if only we saw the monsters a little more and got a chance to see them eat the flesh off of those cops or rip those  guys up in the sewers, remeber the part wHere JOHN HEARD is looking for VICTOR, how kool it have been to see VICTOR  eating HUGO ? or seeing  WILSON become a victum of a C.H.U.D he created.the effects here are good  i love the 80s horror films,  this CGI stuff today looks so fake. I hope someone will make a  REAL C.H.U.D 2  movie  that BUD the CHUD s**t was an insult . it hand nothing to do with the  84 classic  I mean the monsters werent even in the movie. who ever made that movie did not see the 1st film. I would like to see a true sequel and just imagin how kool the C.H.U.Ds could look today. they should make it and give the orginal cast some parts in the movie. hopeful they will bring C.H.U.D back like brought back freddy and jason. every series have a bad film hey look at the 3rd halloween  no Micheal Myers, they can do some with C.H.U.D    bring us  C.H.U.d 3


Title: CHUD
Post by: Sidney on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
CHUD is my favorite movie of all time.  Even better than Cremaster 3, by a hair....

I LOVE CHUD, and I'm not afraid to admit it to the world.  I am awash in the glow of CHUD's ever-present love-light.

Still haven't seen CHUD II: Bud the CHUD.  Please email me if you have, and let me know if it is worth it.



Title: CHUD
Post by: RatBoy on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
I don't know if you guys knew this, but they made a sequel to CHUD called CHUD 2 except it has nothing to do with the origional and is like a bad comidy with CHUDs that are more like zombies than anything.  Its like the crappy movie My Boyfriend's Back.  My friend and I were having another marithon and we saw CHUD1&2 one after the other and they are nothing alike other than some people died in both.
Any way keep up the good work.


Title: CHUD
Post by: FERRET on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
I may be 11 but I think C.H.U.D. is a great movie. I was so wrapted into it  untill I  saw the second. Sucky,no effence but they don't turn fully C.H.U.D. for crying out loud. It does not have the right to be named C.H.U.D. 2.


Title: CHUD
Post by: Mictantecutli on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
It's the only film in which Dilbert battles mutated sewer monsters! (Well, other than that episode where Dilbert switched "jobs" with Ratbert, perhaps)


Title: CHUD
Post by: GreatCthulhu on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
The 80's was a great decade: trashy metal that would make you speakers melt, designer drugs, and cheapo horror flicks.  CHUD is one of about twelve great horror films from that time that I have flashback-y memories of.  Needless to say, I bought the DVD.

What I love about the film is its grimyness.  Every character, every shot even, is laoded with dirt and sweat and grunge. When most horror films were going out their ways to look "clean", this film was a welcome entry.

Don't be afraid. Get your hands dirty.


Title: CHUD
Post by: mike52t on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
Lets see...CHUDs eating New Yorkers...I don't see a downside.


Title: CHUD
Post by: Frederick on October 30, 2004, 02:04:40 PM
I recently found a DVD copy of CHUD at my local WLAMART for the low low price of $6.89... this pleased me to a great extent so i purchased it.  The special features include a commentary, still photo reel, and the original theatre tailer.  The trailer as you may expect is, in every way, as crappy as the movie.  However, the photo reel shows just how much work was put into the CHUD costumes, this may explain where the budget for the film went and consequently why the script sucked such a large quantity of ass.  None the less, CHUD is the best movie in the world, and next time I go to NYC, i plan on venturing into the sewers of Manhattan to find and befriend some CHUDs, perhaps i can bring on home with me and he can do my homework, or at least munch my teachers when they get mad at me for not doing it, or getting radio active CHUD goo on my assignments.


Title: CHUD
Post by: Pat on December 22, 2004, 08:50:50 PM
Wow I cant believe my brother spent money on this crap. For one thing a guy is going into the sewers full of bums, wouldnt his wive say wow you smell like crap. Another thing have you noticed that the chud and alien have the same blood pretty much ... hmmm I wonder what they were thinking when they made this video. I can just imagine a guy sitting in his chair in the office thinking of a good movie to make then all the sudden he thinks I got it Ill make a movie about bums who live in the sewer and aligators eat them ... WAIT NO! Chud eat them. Who thought of that word or the acranim.


Title: CHUD
Post by: IT on August 25, 2005, 11:21:44 AM
One of the worst movies ever made .When I was a teenager I talked some friends into seeing this mess and they never forgiven me for it.AVOID it at all cost .


Title: CHUD
Post by: christophe on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
This CHUD film is an excellent addition to anyones horror film collection. It is a cult classic, never mind what other people on here say about it, but I suppose they can always watch highly polished films like titanic and come away really excited and saying they enjoyed it 100%. But to me films like this should come back, I'd love to see it and it would help get rid of all those p**s poor horror films that are rated 15. You know, the ones your mum would suggest going to see.  


Title: CHUD
Post by: George on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
I bought the DVD last year at Best Buy for $5.99 and, as far as I am concerned, it was a smart buy. this version, which contains footage not seen in the theatrical version, kicks ass. Does anyone realize that the other cop in the infamous diner scene is portrayed by Jay Thomas ("Mork & Mindy" , "Mr. Holland's Opus")? As for "CHUD 2", this is a perfect example of a cinematic s**tburger. It plays more like an entry in the "Return Of The Living Dead" series, a very crappy entry. Even Gerrit Graham("SCTV", "The Annihilators") couldn't save it. Don't even bother!


Title: CHUD
Post by: :) on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
CHUD is an epitomy of trash, but the score is decent. Oh, the film has Dilbert, so maybe it's not completely worthless...


Title: CHUD
Post by: AkiraTubo on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
C.H.U.D. is something of a hidden gem.  Its attempt at a plot halfway make sense as far as these movies go, the CHUDs are kind of scary, and the score sets the mood of the film perfectly.

Plus, we've got REAL ACTORS and not the producer's college frat brothers or whatever.

Definitely check out the DVD release, which contains additional footage and is edited together in the correct order (i.e., diner attack in the middle).

I checked out the personal website of C.H.U.D.'s producer (forget the URL at the moment, google it) and it is quite interesting.  He even explains the elongating neck.  It was supposed to suddenly and rapidly elongate so the CHUD could take a bite at the heroine from across the room, like a cannibalistic jack-in-the-box.  Unfortunately, the effect didn't work out that way but, dammit, they paid for it so they left it in.


Title: CHUD
Post by: poopsi on November 02, 2005, 03:00:04 AM
This movie should be renamed CHOAD since it bites the big one. You know creativity went sour when people make a movie about turds in the sewer that come to life with glowing eyes.


Title: CHUD
Post by: Roncore on April 10, 2006, 11:42:14 AM
on the DVD version of chud, on special features, if you keep moving the selection it will eventually highlight the background chuds eyes. Hit enter for a deleted scene fearturing a more revealing version of the shower scene!


Title: Re: CHUD
Post by: T.Gio on August 31, 2007, 10:48:36 AM
 :hot: My Professor is in this movie! Of course it rocks! GO CHUD GO! :cheers:


Title: Re: CHUD
Post by: Mike on August 31, 2007, 10:50:14 AM
Best movie ever!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: CHUD
Post by: Patient Zero on December 07, 2007, 08:40:55 PM
Foreshadowing is a good thing... unless there is too much of it.
I mean, jeez! This movie spends 3/4 of its running time on what Jaws did in its first 30 minutes! If done properly, foreshadowing can increase the aura of suspense in a film. If done improperly, it grinds the film to a halt, as is the case with CHUD.
There was another thing I noticed when watching CHUD. The original mutant corpse was said to have been killed by a gas leak in the sewer. Said gas is likely to be flammable.
 :buggedout:SO WHY THE F**K DO THE POLICE GO AFTER THEM WITH FLAMETHROWERS????!!!!!!
That would be the most blatant display of incompetence in the history of mankind, topping even FEMA's response to Hurricane Katrina.


Title: Re: CHUD
Post by: movieguy247 on February 23, 2008, 09:07:15 AM
OK-this one is okay but stay away from CHUD 2: Bud The CHUD!!! That movie sucks something fierce! It has nothing to do with its predecessor.


Title: Re: CHUD
Post by: cudaboy72 on March 31, 2008, 10:12:35 PM
first of all you remember when this came out, in the early mid 80s this movie wasnt bad .this was a time when the movies were packed around the corner.i remember waiting in long line for jaws3 in 3d. that was a joke, we should cherish these movies  in every way we can !  B movies rule enjoy.....


Title: Re: CHUD
Post by: starmummy on May 29, 2008, 10:05:35 AM
I read an interview with the producer for C.H.U.D. in an old issue of Fangoria, stating that they went back to all of the classic horror films (Psycho, etc) to see what made them so scary.  They wanted to take those things and make the scariest movie ever made.  That really excited me and I went out and bought C.H.U.D. the next day.  I actually took an extra long lunch break from work and watched it in my car in the parking lot of a Burger King on my portable dvd player.  I figured it would be the perfect scenario.   Well, let me tell you something about C.H.U.D.......THIS WAS THE WORST MOVIE I HAVE EVER SEEN.  I don't mean "So bad it's good".  This movie just sucked.  It was long, slow, the characters were uninteresting.  It seemed like the producers wanted to make a big budget thriller with a b-movie story.  I should have known that a movie called C.H.U.D. (which sounds like a turd that won't flush) would be terrible.


Title: Re: CHUD
Post by: Victoria on June 12, 2008, 12:15:50 PM
ok i HAVE to like this movie for one reason this was that movie that the drummer of the misfits got his name from!


Title: Re: CHUD
Post by: Thee Dr. on October 11, 2008, 05:15:08 AM
Good catch, Starmummy.


Title: Re: CHUD
Post by: Warp Ninja X on November 24, 2008, 06:43:30 PM
I remember watching this crap on HBO back then also a second time on USA man those were mistakes I wish I never did also on the sequel.  On my Zune theirs a crapy podcast that call themselves The CHUD Show and they just like the movie a mega pile of s**t. :hatred:


Title: Re: CHUD
Post by: Panasit on May 04, 2010, 01:06:51 PM
I was on a creature feature mode, watching over 10 of them in a day. C.H.U.D. was my last one after Black Water, Rogue, Dinoshark, etc. And I thought the movie was extremely good. I love the plot, and how different people from different walk of life tackle the issue. There aren't enough gore, but that's not what I look for in movies. I don't see how people can like the first Ghostbuster and hate this movie.


Title: Re: CHUD
Post by: ChristopherS on October 28, 2010, 09:58:07 AM
Just found a great Halloween MP3 based on the C.H.U.D. movie, by a group called Sticks Downey. You can get it for free at SticksDowney dot com.


Title: Re: CHUD
Post by: ThatGuy on January 18, 2011, 12:29:17 PM
I always assumed that John Goodman went berserk and killed everything in the diner while yelling "you're in for a world of hurt".


Title: Re: CHUD
Post by: Used Meathook on January 28, 2011, 05:29:55 PM
Love this movie.

I heard rumors that there's a longer version (longer by quite a bit!) somewhere out there (probably collecting dust in a film vault @ Area 51). Supposedly, this longer version shows the massacre in the sewer...current versions just show the "after the fact" gore (the corpses). Anybody know what I'm talking about? And no, I'm not drunk.