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Title: Delicatessen
Post by: StrawDog on January 23, 1999, 02:50:05 AM
I really don't think that this sensitive and intelligent and beuatifully produced, if extremely strange, movie can be mentioned in the same breath as Plan 9...............


Title: Delicatessen
Post by: Kislev on January 23, 1999, 02:50:05 AM
I love this movie. Very dark and totally hilarious. Everyone will love the "rhythm" scene. Very well-made.


Title: Delicatessen
Post by: sardu@hotmail.com on January 23, 1999, 02:50:05 AM
This movie is one of the best ever made... Even if this is a bad movies site, it's still good that it is recognized.  It's brought to you by the same folks that made "City of Lost Children," another bizarre Film.  Pretty damn sweet.  The Troglodytes are my heroes.


Title: Delicatessen
Post by: on March 11, 1999, 05:34:49 PM
This web site is great.  It helped me out tremendously. I had to write a paper on the movie Delicatessen for my English class at East Carolina University.
                         MUCH THANKS
                              Desiree


Title: Delicatessen
Post by: trotsky on April 06, 1999, 01:30:02 PM
Your review indicates that you may have missed the subtlety of this clever allegory.  The cannibalism is a figurative representation of American-style capitalism, while the burrowing troglodytes are an interpretation of a Marxian dystopia...


Title: Delicatessen
Post by: elliott_breeden@woodberry.org on April 09, 1999, 05:09:51 PM
You must be completely devoid of all brain cells. Anyone with the intelligence quotiant of an ichthyoid would see Delicatessen as a great movie. You have obviously completely missed what the movie about. Anyone who would call this movie bad is a certified moron. Spare us all and shut the hell up from now on.


Title: Delicatessen
Post by: fenris@badmovies.org on November 25, 2006, 04:09:03 PM
Elliot,




Amazing how many insults you can put out in a few sentences isn't it?  You obviously didn't take time to read through the site and understand my motives.  Dispensing criticism, without fully understanding your subject, is the trait of a complete jackass.  I liked this movie, anything with a four slime rating is definitely worth watching.  Not many people are going to pick up a film subtitled in English about apartment dwellers eating their handymen.  I will, I'll go out and find those movies which are the hidden gems most would pass by.  You, my ignoramus friend, probably have a difficult time accepting other's views when you manage to understand them.  In this case you entirely missed mine, go and throw bones at the monolith for a while.  Oh, and by the way, your ranting is missing a word, I suspect "is" was meant to precede "about."  In addition, "quotient" is the correct spelling.  Accusing someone of being a moron is much less convincing when you fail to proofread.  



Run along and tell mommy the bad Marine called you a male donkey, that is all.




Andrew


Title: Delicatessen
Post by: on April 11, 1999, 02:17:23 PM

You said: "You obviously didn't take time to read through the site and understand
my motives." I think I did.  "Dispensing criticism, without fully understanding your
subject, is the trait of a complete jackass." But this wasn't what I was doing.
 "I liked this movie, anything with a four slime rating is definitely worth watching."  But I cannot understand how on any level Delicatessen could be considered a bad movie, not even a "good" bad movie. I'm aware that there are plenty of films that are cheesily ridiculious and because of it they are fun to watch. Delicatessen was not one of them. I thought it was original, innovative, and really very funny in a smart way. "Not
many people are going to pick up a film subtitled in English about
apartment dwellers eating their handymen." I don't see why not, and personally I think that just because no one will watch a certain movie doesn't mean it isn't good. On the contrary, many of the best films I have ever seen are ones that are obscure and not well known.  "I will, I'll go out and find those movies which are the hidden gems most would pass by."  I do the same thing. "You, my ignoramus friend, probably have a difficult time accepting other's views
when you manage to understand them." No, I just don't accept views that have no grounds for justification. I still fail to see why you classify Delicatessen as a bad movie. This, I believe, certifies you as a grade-A nimrod. You said: "In this case you entirely missed
mine, go and throw bones at the monolith for a while.  Oh, and by the
way, your ranting is missing a word, I suspect "is" was meant to precede
"about."  In addition, "quotient" is the correct spelling."  Obviously, you missed my play on words.
You said: "Accusing someone of being a moron is much less convincing when you fail to proofread." There is no correlation between intelligence and typing ability as far as I'm concerned.

I am interested to hear what you think are "good" movies.

Have you ever wondered what it is like to be boiled alive in Armenian yak porridge? Or skinned alive by urban pygmy penguin cannibals? Just a question.
Elliott


Title: Delicatessen
Post by: theobtuse_christ@hotmail.com on September 15, 1999, 05:27:26 AM
I wouldn't say this was a b-movie,definitely not on par with a movie that say,has a snowman bang a girl to death with a carrot. But it isn't an amazing classic because well...it's messed up. Foreign films are all messed up. No matter what country your from,a movie from another nation is going to look messed up. This is a good thing. This is cultural diversity. This is someone in Bangladesh watching a snowman bang a girl to death with a character and think Americans make messed up movies. So does a movie with funny looking people,a woman who should have just shot herself in the head,and an overwhelming message of more people having guns than the postman. But there's still no sexual assault with a carrot.


Title: Delicatessen
Post by: Chelsey on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
I completely forgot to comment on the woman constantly trying to kill herself.. quite halarious.. I mean the Idea of suicide isn't funny but the way she does it halarious. Just the way she goes about it.. you can tell she doesn't want to in a way, because she sets up such a "convention" with one thing attached to another. Hehehe. It's all funny what can I say :)


Title: Delicatessen
Post by: Chelsey on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
This movie is down right strange. But it's creative. And although it has it's "Horror" It auctually is very funny. Especially the scene in which the two are on the bed, trying to find the squeak in it. I did enjoy the film.!


Title: Delicatessen
Post by: Noelle (noelle@webdreaming.com) on October 30, 1999, 04:20:12 PM
I saw the commercial for this movie which consisted of the 'rhythmic scene' when I was visiting Italy in 1991.  This was also when that "I'm too sexy" song and that Tori Amos video where she crawls into and out of a box were released.  You really don't get an idea about a foreign country until you watch tv there.  I have to admit that I thought Italy was full of freaks after seeing those three things.  Well, then I came home and realized that those videos were on tv here too and that film was French.  But I think my opinion still stands, you should see the other stuff they were showing.

It is a great film.  And I don't have much of a attention span with subtitles.  I'm not sure if it's "B-movie" fodder but I'm always glad to see good obscure films get coverage.


Title: Delicatessen
Post by: Je suis belle et tout le monde adorent moi. on December 07, 1999, 12:48:27 PM
I tried watching this movie... I really did.  But, alas, I could not keep my eyes open.  The real p**ser about Delicatessen is that the subtitles don't always match the dialogue.  What can you do.


Title: Delicatessen
Post by: voyles@research.nj.nec.com on March 07, 2000, 11:18:06 AM
sardu@hotmail earlier mentioned "City of Lost Children" by the same folks.  I second his opinion that it's a great film - probably not a B movie, as the settings and performances are superb, but well worth watching.  As another side note, the same director did "Alien: Resurrection" and brought the star (Louison a.k.a. Dominque Pinon) with him.


Title: Delicatessen
Post by: Hey bad can also mean good! As in "Badass"! on March 21, 2000, 12:59:50 AM
 Oh common and get off your high horses people. So a movie you found deeply moving and totally changed your life or whatevever was reviewed on a "bad movie" web site.  You must admit that Delicatessen isn't for everyone, as "bad" as it is(and by that I mean good).  There are much better things to do with our time than nit pick the labels that are put on movies and challenge people to an art-fag war, especially considering no one said Delicatessen sucked.  It's a good movie why don't ya just watch and enjoy?


Title: Delicatessen
Post by: cj on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
I first saw this movie when it came out and I was in high school.  I lved it then and I love it now. After reading through these comments, some of you need to lighten up.  Yes this is a GREAT movie, but also YES it has the horrible special effects and strange plot that can give a movie a 'b' rating.  Remember we log onto this site because we love 'b' movies.

CJ


Title: Delicatessen
Post by: Buckle Bailey on August 04, 2000, 07:06:46 PM
If I here one more person call this film "weird" or "quirky" I am going to regurgitate. This is classic European black humour, demanding such descriptions as "refreshingly different" or "deliciously eccentric".
Thank you, good morning.


Title: Delicatessen
Post by: Vasquez on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
Well, I'll be damned, I never thought so many people would love Delicatessen outside of France/Belgium (it IS a pretty twisted movie, even by our standarts!). I'm glad it was well accepted by those who saw it, and so vireulently defended...

Personnally, I would have disagreed with the B-movie classification if our host had given it only one or two slimes. As it is, remember that there comes a point when, strangely enough, a film can be so bad as to become absolutely excellent, and that what makes a good movie brillant could, under other circumstances and with only very small differences turn it into an absolute piece of crap.
In other words: the film's great, that's what EVERYONE here has been saying anyway, so tell your friends about it and have a good laugh!

Oh, and "City of Lost Children" is also brillant; whereas "Alien Resurrection" is, unfortunately, evidence of what I was saying earlier: the twisted and weird stuff was insuficiant to make it a good movie, and it's only a Hollywoodian piece of bland crap with one or two good ideas floating on top...

But that's only my opinion, of course... ;)

By the way, Elliott, if you read this: what play on words? Excuse my not being a native speaker...

Finally: thank you and bravo, Andrew, for this site. I have yet to disagree with anything you've written, even in your random musings. Keep up the good work, Marine!

Jerome, from France.




Title: Delicatessen
Post by: Chris on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
This is a blinder of a movie. I loved it and have indeed watched it several times.

My only regret is that such a talented director as this eventually ended up "Taking water to her (Sigorni -however the f**k she spells it- Weavers) mill" -As the French say-.

A shame that this director when he seemed to be moving up was in fact in complete juxtaposition.

Chris -England-

NB : Appologise for poor spelling -late,cant be arsed to proof read-


Title: Delicatessen
Post by: Freakygeek on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
I usually find nonsense movies to be stupid. However, movies like this and City of Lost Children appeal to my silly side, and somehow they are just really bad(good). Now when I think of these movies, I just can't help laughing. Especially the "Rythm" scene. Jeunet and Caro ROCK!


Title: Delicatessen
Post by: El Nicko on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
... and have you checked the opening credits? There is more visual creativity in the credits of this film than in the whole Hollywood production from the last 10 years!

BTW, after "Alien XXXVII", Jeunet also did "Amelie from Montmartre" - which is ALSO a helluva good movie! (too sweet to be called "bad" but in the same weird spirit as "Delicatessen", though).


Title: Delicatessen
Post by: Donjohn on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
Put this movie out of the classification !! It's one of the best movie ever made !!!
Of course, there is not a superheros saving the world, of course there is not a very bad guy very ugly, of course there is not a beautiful women and of course there is no moral ! it's a poethic movie !

There is a lot of french life reference in this movie, so maybe you didn't understand some parts.

This director made the most beautiful movie last Year : "Le fabuleux destin d'Amelie Poulain" (i don't know the name in english), saw by millions of frenchies, more than Titanic (which must be in this classification...)


Title: Delicatessen
Post by: mamasou on November 19, 2002, 02:18:07 PM
Great, funny, strange, genious cinema. A true cerebral xperience. Unmatched...!


Title: Delicatessen
Post by: tessai on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
Ok just for starters THIS IS NOT A BAD MOVIE .By bad i mean sth. like lets say "Creatures from the abyss".
This is a wonderfull black comedy and it's funny on purpouse (not like other films reviewed here).IT should not be on this website just like "The mummy" .Plus in your synopsis you have forgotten to write that the film takes place after some sort of nuclear war or something like that, therfore the severe meat shortage. It's actualy a satirical vision of members of the modern society who would rather have their grandmother (or some innocent guy) chopped up and eaten then gave up their fillet mignons and chops.

By the way I love youre website and the rythm scene rocks


Title: Delicatessen
Post by: Mindflash on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
*reads the post by the idiot named Elliot*

I love this movie, and no, Andrew, I do not think you are calling it "bad".  Remember that this site also reviews CULT movies (including the wonderful Rocky Horror Picture Show) as well as movies that are just painful to watch.


Title: Delicatessen
Post by: No Nukes on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
I liked the mole people whose code names were food dishes. The scene with the weirdo who keeps snails in his room is funny. Don't forget to check out "The City Of Lost Children", by the same director.


Title: Delicatessen
Post by: James Perry on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
I think I can understand what this web site is all about.  These films have a select audience.  Just try showing Deli to your grandma or your little sister...they'll call it BAD.  For we who understand it can call this one of our favorite films of all time.  In fact, I'll go on to say that perhaps Deli is my personal favorite LOVE STORY of all time along with Brazil.  

I discovered this film thanks to film critic Roger Ebert (who also got me interested in Anime with My Neighbor Totoro).  I have this filmmakers other works-City of Lost Children, Fifth Element, Alien Resurrection and The Messenger-on DVD (soon Ameile).  This deserves a DVD treament (US and worldwide) more than most of the crap coming out!  All the best scenes have already been mentioned here...but my personal favorite bit is the whole love affair thing.  Shows there is someone for everyone even in a weird futuristic appocalyptic time as this film is set in.  I seriously thought one of those two would be eaten by the time the credits rolled.  The whole bit about grandma was crazy hilarious!  To think these people needed meat so bad they're weeding out the herds like tigers do in the wild.  God!  Let's have a DVD with a bunch of extras!!  Please!


Title: Delicatessen
Post by: Paco on November 25, 2006, 04:09:03 PM
Delicatessen a “B” movie? If this is true, then “B” stands for BIG. Just the opening credits combining names with broken objects is a masterpiece on its own.

And what on Earth is that guy, Mr. Tapioca (played by Ticky Holgado) doing with his condoms anyway? And why do these have spots?? They don’t, pal. In facts, the guy is repairing them! Yes! Using patches for bicycles inner tubes! Maybe he can’t afford buying more or maybe… they just all ran out of stores in these hard times.

So, my point is to make these few corrections of misunderstanding upon a VERY GOOD movie and not criticizing the web site. If I didn’t enjoy “B” movies, I wouldn’t have visited it.


Title: Delicatessen
Post by: The stupid french girl on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
Ok ok this movie is really special but he has, as we call in french, a "second degré" You can't take this film just like that There is a real atmospere, it's an all envoronment
I'm probably not clear but this movie is deeper than the it seems to be!
Ps "la cité des enfants perdus" is just so great!


Title: Delicatessen
Post by: Jenny on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
As a confirmed francophile, I was always going to love this movie, but I've gotta say, it really just is SOOO FUNNY!! I watched it with my cousin and even she loved it.  It is one of my favourite movies ever and I especially love everybody's favourite sewer-dwelling militant vegetarians, hte troglos.  I also had no idea that cello and musical saw went so well together...  







Title: Delicatessen
Post by: Colin G. Davis on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
One of the many thing that p**ses me off about the steady decline of the English language, is the loss of the original meaning of the term "B movie."
As we all know (or do we?) it originally referred to a film made specifically to fill the lower half of a double bill. Of course, when films got longer and longer (usually TOO bloody long)the B movie died. Trouble is, the term didn't, and now it's used vaguely to mean whatever the writer wants it to mean.
Ah, well.. sigh.
"Delicatessen" is wonderful, by the way.


Title: Delicatessen
Post by: rom on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
I was pleased to see this movie in this classification, with this rating,  just besides Sam Raimi's and Peter Jackson's early movies.
Excuse my english and thank you, Mr Borntreger, for this exclusive  and deligthful list.
You made me discover a lot of movies and I'll do my best to find the most part of it.

romain from france


Title: Delicatessen
Post by: Tissaia on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
I absolutely love this movie, just as the The City of The Lost children (or whatever it's called in English). The sex scene is truly amazing, but even better is one its fragment when Rufus is checking the moo toys (!) - a masterpiece in its own right, really... As always after watching a film that is SO great, I'm at the loss of words. oh, btw. I think I know the instrument that makes the sound of the musical saw - but I forgot its name. Yann Tiersen has a woman in his band who plays that thing. I'm just about to start my summer exam session and was supposed not to watch any films till it's over, but I just couldn't help it! And... I'm glad I didn't in the end :D. oh and one more thing - great website you have here, I'm definitely going to visit it on a regular basis. Thank you:)
T.  


Title: Re: Delicatessen
Post by: Gary Atlass on May 01, 2008, 01:14:02 PM
Too bad Jean Pierre Jeunet ended up doing crappy movies like Amélie  :hatred:... This goes for Marc Caro (go see Dante 01 if you don't believe me)


Title: Re: Delicatessen (your questions answered)
Post by: ANON on August 05, 2008, 12:13:49 PM
Green Dot   9 mins - He is trying to escape from being chopped up and eaten, and believes hiding in the dustbin means he will be able to escape unnoticed - in the rubbish.
Green Dot   28 mins - He spat ever so forcefully... and it's an abstract film so it doesn't HAVE to make sense
Green Dot   29 mins - The dark spots are clearly patches from a puncture-repair kit, it's a hilarious symbol of their poverty. Not that poverty is hilarious... just repairing the punctures on a comdom IS hilarious.
Green Dot   37 mins - yes, a Cello accompanied by a musical saw.. what's wrong with that?
Green Dot   47 mins - Aurore has a wonderfully creative mind for a suicidal depressive.
Green Dot   51 mins - It was mentioned earlier in the film that nothing was growing, I am coming to the conclusion that the earth is not longer fertile and vegetables don't grow any more? which is why dried beans and pulses are used as money - because they are the only non-meat food source left. (besides the luxuries of biscuits and cheese...) I am then moving to a conclusion about the rat-call, seeing as it is impossible to farm animals, there are no vegetables to feed them, you have to eat what is available, one of those food sources being rats. A rat call will call rats, which you can kill - and eat. Failing that, kill the handyman, chop him up and sell him in a delicatessen.
Green Dot   65 mins - Again, Aurore and her wonderful mind. I love things like this, booby traps and complictaed domino-effect mechanisms.
Green Dot   75 mins - Now we have the gas oven on (spewing gas), a lethal dose of pills, a noose around her neck, and a rifle pointed at her head with the trigger attached to the door by string. (Just in case one of them fails....)

Also - I really love this film because of the techniques used and the overall effect, it's wonderful and so so so french, to a point of being ridiculously french (I think that was the idea... over-exaggerating a stereotypical image) I've heard the writers/directors are actually animators, and I would believe it, I just LOVE this film... :D


Title: Re: Delicatessen
Post by: MacDeath on August 09, 2008, 06:54:57 PM
Hi, being french, I must tell you that this movie is a Cult Movie in France.

Why ?

--Because it is one of the rare post-apokaliptic / (retro-)Futuristic movie produced in France (we don't do science fiction often indeed...).
--Because of the global estetic (a kind of 50's France...).
--Because of the cartoonish flavour (the missed suicide don't have to be credible...)
--Because of J-P Jeunet and Caro...And J-C Dreyfus (the butcher)

All that said, I thibk in USA, you should really try to get your foreign movies over dubbed instead of only subtitled.

Of course, you miss the natural sound, and most of time, dialogues are not really accurate. But at least it allow the movie to reach a greater audiance.

But as USA seems to need such a "protection" from foreigner cinema...

In France, every foreign movies are over-dubbed..
And if you get the DVD, well you can always switch to Original Version with subtitle...


Title: Re: Delicatessen
Post by: Doc Daneeka on May 10, 2009, 09:30:12 AM
Gunny, I think I've got a different version than you do. It seems to me like the color filter is a LOT more apparent on my disk than in the screenshots you put up...

I, like others here think the movie is brilliant, but I do see the reasoning in it being here. I showed it to my girlfriend, and she simply could not stop her jaw form dropping every 30 seconds X)


Title: Re: Delicatessen
Post by: Andrew on May 10, 2009, 09:46:28 AM
Gunny, I think I've got a different version than you do. It seems to me like the color filter is a LOT more apparent on my disk than in the screenshots you put up...

Most likely a different version.  I believe that the review was done from a VHS tape.  If not, it's from the laserdisc. 


Title: Re: Delicatessen
Post by: MEADHBHE on September 26, 2009, 05:18:51 PM
Can you PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE post the full "rythym scene" from Delicatessen - you've only got 29 secs of it! I want to send it to my friends who haven't seen this terrific movie yet
Thanks!!
Meadhhe   


Title: Re: Delicatessen
Post by: Andrew on September 26, 2009, 05:20:04 PM
Can you PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE post the full "rythym scene" from Delicatessen - you've only got 29 secs of it! I want to send it to my friends who haven't seen this terrific movie yet
Thanks!!
Meadhhe   

I am afraid that I cannot provide requests like this.


Title: Re: Delicatessen
Post by: Rev. Powell on September 27, 2009, 01:44:06 AM
Can you PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE post the full "rythym scene" from Delicatessen - you've only got 29 secs of it! I want to send it to my friends who haven't seen this terrific movie yet
Thanks!!
Meadhhe   

Ahem... youtube.  The full scene was used as the original American theatrical trailer. 


Title: Re: Delicatessen
Post by: MEADHBHE on September 27, 2009, 02:55:26 PM
Just saw the reply re Youtube - couldn't find it on there, that's why I'm here.....M


Title: Re: Delicatessen
Post by: Rev. Powell on September 27, 2009, 03:43:31 PM
Just saw the reply re Youtube - couldn't find it on there, that's why I'm here.....M

It was there a couple of weeks ago when I wrote my DELICATESSEN review; it may have been removed.

I remember I thought it was stupid (or at least a gamble) to include the movie's best scene in its entirety as a theatrical trailer.  I chose to use an alternate trailer to illustrate the film for that reason.


Title: Re: Delicatessen
Post by: Bonesey on January 18, 2010, 07:51:58 AM
This isn't a B movie. I watched it as a teenager, it is a solidly entertaining film in its own right.