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Good to see my pal Gamera get his place on your site.  I'm a pretty big fan of the Gamera flicks (mostly MST3K's renditions of them), despite annoying children in tiny shorts.  

For more on the superbly crafted film that is "Gamera vs. Guiron" I recommend this interview with Noriaki Yuasa, the cheif director of the 1965-1980 Gamera series.

http://users.pdnt.com/~kaiju/yuasa.htm

Too bad the new GAMERA: GUARDIAN OF THE UNIVERSE series crapped out with number three (though they're highly entertaining, they ran out of fresh ideas spontaneously--the first re-uses Gyaos/Gaos; the second one has the old meteor-monster angle; the third features a VARIATION of Gaos that looks like a high-heeled tentacle-demon escapee from a hentai-anime); I would've liked to see the crummier original foes like Guiron, Zigra, Viras, and Jiger get the "new" souped-up treatment like Gaos. The new ones don't have freaky children in shorts, but they star Steven Seagal's daughter, who couldn't act her way outta a paper bag; she's just as annoying.

1) Cop named Cornjob, what the hell?

Sorry, comment got cut off there after #1 (little cousin visiting, likes to hit "enter" button on my computer while I'm at it).  Anyway

Dammit!  I give up, this movie was funny and crazy.  Now I've got to go tell little Paul's daddy that he's been bad and needs a whuppin . . .

A classic for sure.  I can remember the first time I saw this.  I was simply floored at how silly it was.  I absolutely adore the MST3K version of this film, a classic for sure!  There are 2 Gamera movies from the old series not done by MST3K.  Gamera vs. Jiger and Gamera vs. Viras.  I wonder why they decided not to do this flicks?  Anyway, a good review and some great multimedia files.  "And while they are sleeping, we'll eat their brains raw!!!!!"

KCTV 5 used to show movies every afternoon back before talk shows started stinking up the airwaves.Once in a while they would have gamera week.While not as good as Godzilla week it was a million times better than Doris Day week.Any way this one includes a couple of sexy space babes.How come the last few early Gamera films had one Asian kid and the other was Caucasian?Do these "white"children speak Japanese in the un dubbed versions?So glad I got my Bandai Guiron vinyl figure.

This version is not the original American release. This was released by American International Pictures-TV (AIP-TV for short)as ATTACK OF THE MONSTERS. Sandy Frank released the original Japanese version in 1985 as GAMERA VS. GUIRON with a new English soundtrack and bad panning and scanning. Personaly, I would stick to the AIP-TV version. However AIP-TV cut some violent scenes out so to see the violence uncut you will have to see the bad Sandy Frank version. But see the AIP-TV version, it is better.

 When MST3K started doing these, Sandy Frank found out someone was actually paying money for the broadcast rights to Gamera movies, so he increased the price, that's why they didn't do the rest of them.
 The one you almost never see is the one where he fights the asparagus/squid creature, I don't know what it's called.
 No one has mentioned how incredibly hot the space chicks are in this one, maybe it's just that they're dainty Japanese women in flashy costumes being naughty. Imagine being a young boy in their nefarious clutches!
 My favorite part of every Gamera movie is the part where they speak reverently about him.
       - <a href="http://davemunger.blogspot.com>My Blog</a>

The funniest of the Gamera series. Guiron is so ridiculous. He's a knife for cripe's sake! He does a job on Gaos though. And how bout those turtle gymnastics? I give it a 4/5

I love this movie, and not just because it was the first Gamera movie I ever saw.  It is completely surrealistic and fun all at once.
I suggest checking out Neptune Media's GAMERA VS GUILLON, which uses the far superior AIP dubbing.  It is also letterboxed and has a bunch of great supplements.  The liner notes are well written also.
And the reason the vacuum cleaner show couldn't ruin GAMERA VS MONSTER X and DESTROY ALL PLANETS is because Sandy Frank didn't release his atrocious versions of them, nor license them out to the stupid show in his greed.

Apparently it's some kind of law that all Japanese schoolboys have to wear "Daisy Dukes", they have on 99% of all Kaiju movies I've seen. And you didn't know all turtles were master gymnists??? And alien women can't resist eating the brains of little boys with shaved heads, and it is a natural alien response to stand stupidly in the path of an incoming missile, if it wasn't we would all have been "brain-food" centuries ago!

This movie is the absolute bomb. Frank has so much GREED its unbelievable and yet this movie is just f**king coool

Attack of the Monsters or Gamera vs. Guiron?,to me it will always be Attack of the Monsters from Ameraican International Pictures,it's Gameras 5th movie,but did you know,like Destroy All Planets,it was really a 14 or 15 part series on the Japanese Childeren Matinee every Saturday afternoon,you a half hour each Saturday,it was known as Terror on Planet Terra,in that one Gamera got to renew his battle with Gaos,this film was made by A.I.P. & Titan with Diaies help,unfortunatly in this one Gamera doesn't get to fight Gaos,but one thing the Sandy Frank version did was bring back the footage of Guiron chopping up Gaos,it has since been readded to the A.I.P. version.Just one thing more,in 1991 when I was watching this movie I said,if there's one thing I know,that is Gamera will never be on MST3K,well just one week after I said that,the only good thing is,is they didn't have the A.I.P. originals,to this day I still can't get over the Sandy Frank remakes nor the fact that Gamera was on MST3K,did they really like the Gamera films or not?.

I saw this late night on SBS. What a laugh! my favourite quote would have to "Gamera is go-go dancing!"

HEY! You ruined the best part of the movie! The cop's name isn't KONDO! It's CORNJOB!

I have seen this movie in the MST3K form about 50 times and I have become utterly fascinated with it--to the point htat I am looking for a good print DVD copy of the original.  It is hard to explain a thing like this, but if any movie at all unconsciously captures the utter insanity of the world (esp. in 1969), this is it.

In the process of making this film, literally hundreds of bizzarre and aesthetically criminal decisions were made and I am left wondering "What the hell were they thinking?"  Were they all coked up or on acid and just throwing any idea into the film that came up?  The schizophrenia of the film is a testament to how strange things were.  I am tempted to argue that this film is accidentally the epitome of the kaiju genre:  absurd storyline, the thinly veiled denegration of Americans, the illogical bio-mechanics (literally) of the kaiju, the go-go dancing gymnastics of a jet propelled turtle, sexy evil twins and continual insertion of "education" as a theme in a film that repeatedly confuses planets with stars.  What more could you want?

Actually the cop's name is Kondo and the girl calls him Kon-chan. The -chan is a Japanese title (like Mr. or Miss is used in America) but is usually used for children. Why she calls him that is unknown to me.

This flick is what I've grown to like alot. Guiron is a rather freaky but scary creature and takes no prisioners.
The first Gamera/Gurion battle was good. I'm glad to see the un-edited scenes with the space Gaos and Gurion fight for the first time in 1992. I do have the VHS and other titles. But WHY there is no release of "Gamera vs Jiger"??
Not fair! That has got to be the best Gamera flick, from the early days.

Gamera is, to me, is more brilliant than Godzilla. Since I find Godzilla pointless.

For some reason my friends and I found ourselves quoting Monty Python during the 'Guiron Fights Gaos' scene...

"You've got no arms left!"
"But a flesh wound!  The tinfoil pterodactyls always triumph!"
"What are you going to do, bleed blue paint on me?"

And did anybody else think the water was disturbingly yellow?

My favorite of the Gamera movies, next to Gamera vs. Baragon and Gamera vs. Gaos. It's a bit violent, even for a kaiju film, what with Guiron cutting up Gaos like he did, but it was still fun.

The plot & such wern't so good, but gamera look his best in this film.Guiron wasn't too bad eather,still bad plot, bad human acting, ect, ect,ect.

This is the worst GAMERA movie I have seen!Save your mony!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With a warm heart I say Thank you! Everything enjoyable in this movie is found at this site. Good Job

Top Notch Gamera (when watched with Joel and the Bots --CROW:  "That's Cathy Rigby in that suit")!  This is fun even without the MST3K treatment.
 
Cornjob is the MST3K version of the cop-on-a-bike's name, certainly.  The little girl probably calls him this because Kon-chan (Cornjob, whatever) is a bit childlike.  
I've watched these wonderful Japanese monster movies for years.  I wish they'd put them back on along with UltraSeven, Prince of Space and etc.  Probably too much to ask in this by-the-ratings TV age!  At least Sci-Fi resurrects these things.  But I'll cheer like hell when (if) a DVD widescreen of King Kong VS Godzilla comes out!

Whoever thought a flying turtle that breathes fire should be Japan's savior is completely nuts. But at the same time a genious. A genious at taking a seemingly goofy idea and making it even more goofy. This has to be among Gamer'as most embarassinbg moments. His main rivals here are two squirrely voiced girls who own this...bulldog knife headed shuriken throwing monster...thing. what in god's name was going on in the creator's heads when they made Guiron? (Even the guys who make all those Pokemon monsters in Japan come up with better looking monsters than this.) The Japanese are masters at making weird monsters with seemingly cool powers. Also masters at making turtles real fighters. Not to mention expert gymnasts. (I wasn't sure if Gamera was trying to impress guiron before Guiron macheted him with shurikens.) There is one thing however that remains planted in my brain that makes me hate these kinda movies. not bad special effects or goofy plots, but tight short-shorts annoying brat kids! Kids who speak in tones equivalent to nails going down chalkboards, and constantly ooh and aah at every freaking thing. This is where most of the inspiration for your animes come from. A seemingly serious situation turned goofy somehow. What can I say? Godzilla or Gamera? you decide. Oh, and the movie also taught me Japan's law enforcment. thanks to our local policeman "cornjob" (as mst3k dubbed him" "If you're bad, I'll shave your heads!" Reminds me of what Americans were doing with Japanese films long before they actually sat down and learned the language. Now U.S.A's a hot zone for Japanese language and culture. Thanks to anime, and not so much goofy Gamera and Godzilla movies.

I used to think that this the worst Gamera movie before I saw G VS. ZIGRA. The only improvement the Sandy Frankenfurter version had over the AIP dub (ATTACK OF THE MONSTERS) was the inclusion of Gyaos getting butchered.
 But either way you go, they both stink!

For quite awhile everybody who's been a fan of this 5th entry to the Gamera movies has been waitting for the return of that missing scene where Guiron chops up Space Gaos,your wait is over,Showa Video has the complete version,thanks in part to me,you see I gave our good friend at Showa Video not only that great video of X-From Outer Space,but also the two and a half minutes of Guiron & Gaos he needed to make the AIP version complete,some companies claim they had it,Showa Video does!,it's my way of contributing to the cause,if anyone out there has a perfect recording of the AIP version of War of the Monsters send it Showa Videos way!,we'll all be glad you did!.

The restored footage is WICKED! Anyone making fun of Guiron hasn't seen him sever Gaos' leg by deflecting his own sonic beam, then stand over his helpless foe and sadistically lop off his head and various bodyparts like a Benihana chef! Badass!

Gamera was like an old-school wrestler, typically bleeding much more than other monsters. So I knew as a kid that the Guiron matchup was going to be grisly - and it sure was. This'd be a favorite of mine, except for the incredibly obtuse white kid.

Ah yes!,the first Gamera film the KMR reviewer ever saw,I didn't see it until 1985!.

Yet I knew there was something just not right about that Guiron Goas encounter.

It wasn't until 1991 when the horrible Sandy Frank dub was shown on the sci-fi channel,that was the best part of the movie so what I did was videotape that part and put in the AIP version,as I've already said I then gave this 2mins to my friend at Showa Video,so if Mr.Wickwire wants an original AIP dub with the 2mins of Space Gaos getting owned by Guiron,he and you too,can get said dvd from Showa Video!.

I've said a lot of things about this particular Gamera movie,I have always liked the original Gamera series,especially Return of the Giant Monsters.

But I also have a fondness for this one because I never saw until 1985,taped it,the UHF channel was comming clear as a bell!,yet I knew something wasn't right about the Guiron Gaos fight,so when the redubbed SF version was on the Sci-Fi station,I just taped that 2mins and put it on my AIP version.

In a way Sandy Frank did some good,giving us Gamera vs. Zigra,Speed Racer,Legend of the Dinosaurs,and a whole host of bad movies for MST3K.

Destroy All Planets and Attack of the Monsters were not the original concept.
After the huge success of Gamera vs. Gaos Daie made two live shows called Invasion of the Virains and Terror on Planet Terra staring everybodies favorite turtle Gamera!,since they were live,they couldn't splice them into movies.For a half hour each Saturday an episode was shown,this was the latter half of 1967 & early 1968.

When Daie announced they were going to make movies from these two matinee features,the kids of Japan couldn't be happier!.

However by that time,for some reason,Masaichi Nagata and 3 other daie workers,(thankfully not Noriaki Yuasa),were using company founds to bribe public officials and who knows for what other things ,you can read a little about that over at Sci-Fi Japan News.

Thankfully AIP was still in the monster making mood,they helped Daie with 3 of there last 4 Gamera movies,Destroy All Planets,(really made on the cheap,with mostly stock footage from the original 3 Gamera films,with new scenes filmed in outer space and on beach front property).
Attack of the Monsters though had a little more ump,thanks to financial help from AIP,they also gave financial backing for Gamera vs. Monster-X as well.

However after that AIP sinced the trend in movies was moving away from monsters,in 1971 they chose Godzilla vs. Headarh over Gamera vs. Zigra as there final monster entry in there long and distinguished career of giving us some of the best and memorable monster classic ever to be seen on Creature Feature!.

       Things I also learned from this movie
* Gaos is made from easy cutting organic Foam. LOL
  also I love Myst3k
           DG

This is my favorite Gamera movie! I have the uncut VHS version! (total bloodfest)

IMO the DVD version sucks.

I have a somewhat good VHS tape of Attack of the Monsters,you might say I was the first one to put the Sandy Frank 2mins. of Gurion chopping Gaos onto the AIP version,I asked Fred Olen Ray why he didn't put that in his Gamera double feature with Destroy All Planets,he told me he wasn't allowed to tamper with Sandy Frank films,to this day I have my doughts about that.

However with Keith Picozzi it was different,I gave him that 2mins. and he put it in his AIP version,I also gave him the best AIP X-From Outer Space.

He told me he wasn't feeling well and I don't know what if anything if he's still with us or not,Showa Video's changed hands and now it's impossible to get into the websight.

But the last things he did for me were this,he told me to give him the best of my War of the Monsters,and he'd combined it with the best of his,the result,I now have the best true color AIP WOTMs one else will ever see likewise the RKO Mysterains and the real AIP Frankenstine Conquers the World.
My only regret is not giving him my War of the Gargantuas and Godzilla vs. The Thing videos.

What was the gamera movie where he fought a giant lizard that hatched from an opal, show rainbows of destruction from glowing spines on it's back and blew ice mist from it's tongue? Didn't it eat someone alive in that movie?

BTW, can I get a good image of gamera?  I'd like to do a RPG poster that has a pic of gamera with a caption that reads "GM BURNOUT: When the GMs newest monster is a giant, boar tusked, jet propelled, flying, fire breathing turtle, it's time for him to take a break."

To Judge Death it's the second Gamera movie called War of the Monsters,Barugon hatched out of the egg Onadara left under a heatlamp,thinking it was an opel.

Other lizard type monsters Gamera fought were Gurion,Jagir and Zedous.

Jagir forced an egg into Gameras body and two boys went through his body to find and destroy the small monster and help revive Gamera to fight Monster-X before he destroyed the Expo 70 sight.

Oh I forgot,Barugon ate the afore mentioned Onadara,who stole the diamond they were trying to lure Barugon into Lake Bea Wha with.

Thanks, george. You can quote messages here if you're replying to them, BTW.

You are welcome JD,glad to have been of admirable service!.

Good god, I remember being a snotling and thinking the rainbow ray that came off the lizard's back was the mos awesomely beautiful amazing thing in the entire universe.

Now I look back at it and shudder.

The scene where the guy gets et was actually pretty gruesome and shocking for those days, and in some ways still is. Surprised they let that in a kids movie.

Say, unless that giant lizard could digest diamonds, shouldn't it have come out in a day or so in a big pile of human based feces?

Yeah, yeah, I know. Yuk! (We really need a barfing smiley, you know.)

War of the Monsters was never intended to be a child oriented vehicle,but who knows perhaps from the rotting flesh and decaying skulls of dead faces may come forth another Barugon,someday.

Anyway,I don't know what's happened to Keith Picozzi,but Showa Video's changed hands and for some reason the site is impossible to get into,so that means if you wanted the complete AIP version,(with the Sandy Frank 2mins of Gurion chopping Gaos),I hope everyone got it before this happened,I don't know why Retromedia or Alpha Video didn't put that 2mins from the SF version into the AIP version,Keith and I did.

I meant to say the AIP version of Attack of the Monsters with the 2mins of Gurion chopping up Gaos from the Sandy Frank version.

this isn't true.  AIP gave no money to Daiei at all to make the Gamera movies, except to import them directly to US TV. GODZILLA VS THE SMOG MONSTER was way more marketable, and went to the theaters first, then to TV.
check out the new DVDs from Shout! Factory, they are awesome.

David

  They don't make 'em like this anymore... I say bring back " Creature Features " to the local TV channels and lets have a Gamera-Fest !     I remember in the early 70's watching Gamera Films as a child.   Viras and Guiron were the Films played the most..  Gammera, Gaos & Barugon were rarely seen in my area of the map, but all those Godzilla movies filled in the gaps on the local late night channels..  There is something magical about watching Japanese Kaiju movies at the midnight hour...  - Long Live Cornjob! javascript:void(0);

LMFAO, good old officer Cornjob!  At least, that's what the officer's name sounded like. As to what a cornjob actually is...I'm wondering that myself,but with a name like that, do we want to know?  :buggedout:

Regarding the Shout Factory releases.According to Mr. A.C. Cronvich,SF did not do a good job with the English Soundtracks,they are out of sink with the movies,I pray this isn't the case,but if Mr.Cronvich says so,then I guess they more than likely are,and now that Keith and Showa Video are gone,he told me he was in pertty bad health so I guess he's either dead or to ill to run Showa Video anymore,in any case,if the soundtracks don't match then SF should go back and correct this at once,at least with our videos,they were the AIP versions with the 2mins of Sandy Frank on them.
Shout Factory and Sandy Frank,SF,makes one wonder.

As for the rest of it,after the success of Gamera vs. Gaos,Daiei made half hour episodes of Gamera Viras and Giuron,then the movies there after,and if weren't for AIP,Daiei may well of gone out of business a few years before they did.

Shout Factory read A.C.Cronvichs review on Amazon,the AIP dub on the DVD i got was perfect,except for some high low sound when Guiron chopped up Gaos.
Only goes to prove one thing,constructive criticism goes along way to finally get the right results.