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Title: The Lift
Post by: mujaki@uymail.com on August 15, 1999, 03:39:12 PM
Did you know that "The Lift" was featured during a show of foreign horror movies during the "Horror Hall of Fame" awards, hosted by Robert Englund (Fred Krueger) and Charles Lee Ray (Chucky)?


Title: The Lift
Post by: Dave on August 16, 1999, 11:08:02 AM
Andrew,

This is a great movie....a classic.  I remember the first time I saw this I kept laughing at the name on the side of the van (something like Deada Liften).  Anyway I actually like this movie as it has a good plot and the acting is ok for a horror movie from nowhere!!!!

I give it a 7 out of 10...I'd watch it again...probably will this weekend...


Title: The Lift
Post by: Squishy on August 17, 1999, 01:43:28 AM
What a gas. Worst dubbing ever for a flick from the Western half of the globe. And the strangulation at the end--who knew that elevator cables had their own musculature? I think I'll rent this one night triple-billed with "The Refrigerator" and "The Mangler." Pray for Squishy.


Title: The Lift
Post by: Squishy on September 05, 1999, 03:27:44 PM
Say, I have an idea for a sequel; "The Loo." See, the corporation that created the technology behind "The Lift" decides it would be safer to use it on bidets; mysterious drownings begin to occur. A little girl is almost lured to her doom by a playful water-fountain display. A blind man falls in. After the new corporate head takes the toilet out by shooting it in the head (huh huh huh), he is killed by the toilet-paper dispenser...


Title: The Lift
Post by: Pomy on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
Well, well...
Where ta start? Yea, so this movie is a pile of s**t.
I think it could be better. It's not about the directin' or the actin' (b'coz that it would be a double pile of s**t), it's about the ways that elevator kills. I mean that the head choppin' is OK, so far, but the aircondition's and the fact of an elevator is bein' airtight :) well sux!
The other problem is the end of the movie. I don't think that anybody could hung there in the shaft when a ca. 1.5 tons of weight-iron gives massage on the spine... funny!
And ain't that a s**t when the elevator knows (!) that someone is blind? And about the blind people. What tha f**k is the cane for if they don't use it?! Ne'r mind, better luck next time.

POMY

Ps.: By the bye: if they'd call it a fun-film, it'd be my favorite... but this way... s**t!


Title: The Lift
Post by: dfect@hotmail.com on October 16, 1999, 10:41:18 AM
Hey give it a change, it's a Dutch movie you know!! I scared the f*ck out of me when I was young and this movie was on the tv.


Title: The Lift
Post by: Athenachri@aol.com on November 21, 1999, 10:51:58 AM
This movie was one of the very first cheesy movies I ever saw. The greatest thing about it was the movie cover. Ah, a classic movie cover: "Take the stairs! Take the stairs! For God's Sake- take the stairs!!"


Title: The Lift
Post by: Lupe on March 07, 2000, 08:13:17 AM
Well, I'm embarrassed to be Dutch when "one of the things that you learn from this movie" is the fact that we have lower standards for beautiful women; the actress Willeke van Ammelrooy was too old and eighties-styled, but I guess she got the part just because she's famous here in Holland.And I'm drop-dead gorgeous myself, no kidding !!! They should have given me the part, oh no I was seven years old at the time.And it did scare me then, of course.


Title: The Lift
Post by: staev on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
Tagline: The stairs! For God's sake, take the stairs!


Title: The Lift
Post by: Kelly on August 21, 2000, 09:47:38 PM
Y'know, cheesy as this movie is, ya gotta give it credit in the continuity department -- when the cop gets decapitated and his head falls down the elevator shaft, they have a very brief shot of it landing on the blind guy who fell down the shaft previously.  (The blind guy WAS before the cop, wasn't he??  God, it's been a helluva long time since I saw this flick!!  I'd even forgotten about the blind guy -- that's how long it's been...)  Not many cheap, cheesy movies would even bother to remember that.  Most would have his head go splat on the concrete floor...think about it...and, for god's sake...USE THE STAIRS!!  Hyuk!


Title: The Lift
Post by: Chaostar on September 28, 2000, 08:06:08 PM
Saying than Europeans have lower standard for woman shows signs of a very disturbed -to say the least- mind. Apart from that, it would interest you to know that this film won the 1st award at Avoriaz Film Festival (at that time it was THE event for horror buffs)/ President of the jury was John Carpenter.
The film is good, the dubbing is bad (but I guess that Warner Bros. -who bought the rights of the films- wouldn't have dubbed the film if you guys weren't so b***hy about subtitles) and the music, written by the director is really effective.


Title: The Lift
Post by: David on October 06, 2000, 03:26:13 PM
Hi there, Well as for you who have seen this movie, you know by now it's pretty...erm...bad, to put it mildly =)

one thing that strikes me as impossible is when the blind guy fals in the shaft, he's "looking" into the shaft...when he falls, he has managed somehow...and I know of no-one being THAT fast, to turn around well within 0.75 second and grab hold of the ledge....specialy taken the age of the blindman...

my motto normaly is " If it ain't much, it ain't Dutch" but I guess this movie is the exception to the rule =)


Title: The Lift
Post by: Alex on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
It's been a while since I last saw "De Lift" (original title).  Though this movie sucks now, it scared the hell out of me when I was 6 or 7 years old.
Saying that European people have less taste is one big lie.  It's just Dutch movies that suck.  Belgian movies are way better, look at titles such as "Daens" and "Ad Fundum".  Dutch readers will surely admit that these are of high quality.


Title: The Lift
Post by: Jari on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
The remake of this movie has been released in Holland just a month ago. People do not want to see it (wonder why, it is considered wate of money.
Dick Maas is directing the flick again) With: Michael Ironside (tv series "V"; Starship Troopers;Top Gun;Perfect Storm), James Marshall, Eric Thal, Naomi Watts.
One plus to the original: this one is in English, no dubbing needed!
Does this short content sound familiar: When the express elevators in the Millennium Building, one of New York's most famous landmarks (no relation to any recent events), start to malfunction and behave in erratic ways, elevator mechanic Mark Newman is sent out to find the cause of the problems. His investigation meets unexpected resistance and not everybody seems to be happy with his involvement. After a gruesome and deadly incident, in which a blind man falls into the shaft and a security guard is decapitated, the police start an investigation. They are however not very successful. Mark is determined to find the cause. He is joined by a female reporter, Jennifer, who is looking for a juicy story. Together they try to unravel the secrets behind the mysterious behaviour of the elevator that seems to have a life of it's own. When things get worse and death toll rises, The Government, fearing terrorists are involved, seal off the building. What at first looked like a routine job turns into a horrifying nightmare in which Mark has to face an enemy whose blood thirst is only met by it's unpredictability. An enemy that is determined to fight off any intruder looking for the dark secret that lurks inside the belly of the building. An enemy that has to be feared. An enemy that has to be taken .......DOWN (thanks to IMDb).



Title: The Lift
Post by: Nomis Zeepkop on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
When "De lift" was made, the cost of it was only 1,000,000 guilders and that wasn't a lot, even in those days. But the movie was quite a big hit. Thanks to "De lift", Dick Maas produced other movies like the Flodder-series and "Amsterdamned", the movie about the serial killer in the canals of Amsterdam. In a sort of way, "de Lift" was the beginning of a new movie era in the Netherlands.
Today, many Dutch people also agree that "De lift" is completely outdated, but it was quite a break-through for a small country. A Dutch movie that was a success, that was something new. I wish we produced more of these movies, but... we rather keep up our reputation as a marketing land... Too bad, I like movies...


Title: The Lift
Post by: Nomis (again) on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
Oh Dave, btw, it was "Data liften" (the elevator factory Felix worked for)


Title: The Lift
Post by: Sjoerd on November 25, 2006, 04:09:03 PM
Dutch movies suck...exception of this rule is Karakter (character), Lek(Snitch?) and Schatjes(Darlins?) and probably a few other boring -but technically sound- drama`s.
New dutch movies will be made however...be afraid...be very afraid!

btw..I am looking for The Refrigerator..mail me if you understand my quest ;)


Title: The Lift
Post by: Oscar on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
In the Netherlands it seems like there is a death penalty on making good movies. But what will the Swedish cinema be without Bergman, and the Danish cinema without von Trier?
The last 5 years U.S.A.-movies(Hollywood)get better, but still most of them got good special effects, good camerawork, mediocre acting, bad scenario, bad story, predictable story, alreadydone story, b-story. It's a relief(het is een verademing)to see a Dutch movie which is filmed novel, or a camp-cult-horror like "De Lift", after having seen another release of the trashcompany called Hollywood.


Title: The Lift
Post by: j on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
I actullay have a copy of "The Lift"! I work in a pawnshop and have been cracking up for years just by reading this movie's description to people. I've never been bored enough to watch it, but that it's dubbed so adds to the hilarity of it all.


Title: The Lift
Post by: Wim on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
A nice movie, although there are some strange things in it.
Like the scene where Felix brings Mieke to her work, when the car stops you see a soundtechnician in the back of the car (Maas said it during the commentary on the dvd, otherwise I wouldn't have noticed). And the name Deta Liften is a bit strange too (you see a Delta-sign), but Delta was a registered trade mark (they found out at the day they started shooting the movie) so they quickly changed it to Deta Liften.

Some things are just brilliant. For instance the scene at the bowling alley, they made a special camera-dolly and the sound from the bowlingball is made by a small ball rolling over a desk (only then played a halfspeed). The sound from the decapitation is made with a cabbage. They put it in the freezer and then when it was frozen they slowly pulled it in two.

And then the soundtrack, most of the sounds like background music, the moving sound of the elevator, the clicking of the cables and the heartbeat during the fight-with-the-elevator-scene where made on 2 synthesizers (Roland Juno 60/Jupiter 8). It's a mono-soundtrack (stereo was introduced in 1986) but it's the best mono soundtrack in Holland.

With a budget of 750.000 Dutch guilders (That's about 340.000 Euro) it's a nice movie. It would have been better if they'd taken their time then (it took approx. 32 days).

Like I said, a nice movie, one to watch over and over again.


Title: The Lift
Post by: adam on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
I just purchased this flick off the net.
First thing I noticed : 3 lifts with the middle one
evil. Why didn't any of the cast think of using the 2
elevators on either side of the middle one!!!???

How does the guard get decapitated anyway??
The lift is closing in on his head- yet a fake
head is chopped off!!! How did the real guard
escape such a narrow death???

Noticed all the actors are totally not in-synch with their lines!!!  We all know it was dubbed tho.!!!


Title: The Lift
Post by: Trudo on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
I think this is a great movie for its time.
10 times better + scarier than the remake "Down !"
See it !


Title: The Lift
Post by: Ria on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
I saw the original Dutch (subtitled) version of the movie today (Mar 24, 2003) for the first time. Although it is extremely cheesy, it is so cool!
I really liked this movie, but that being said I'm the type who also enjoys watching such offerings as the Aussie "Dead Alive".
Although low-budget and dated, it made me jump when it was supposed to, and the gory bits made me cringe. I'd give it my vote.
Does anyone know what the US remake is called?


Title: The Lift
Post by: Serter on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
I laughed my ass off when I read that in the English version, Mr. Chrome said 'It was sick'. In the original ( Dutch ) version, ( which was on yesterday :D ) he says something more like 'there was something very wrong with it'.

Also, for people wondering about the sex scene, it's not that uncommon for sex scenes to appear in Dutch movies. The rules are way less strict here, and the director of the Lift ( Dick Maas ) has a sex scene in about every movie he makes.

anyway, this is one of the more stylish 'freaky experiment to benefit mankind goes haywire' movies. A true classic


Title: The Lift
Post by: Shank on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
The remake is coming to video in a matter of days, and is now titled "The Shaft." The video package swipes from Naomi Watts' "The Ring," and other pics, while suggesting a supernatural element that isn't there. Go to http://www.downthemovie.com or the IMDB listing to see the trailer, which is overflowing with bad CGI and scenes you'll recognize from "The Lift." Both films directed by the same guy.


Title: The Lift
Post by: Ron on November 25, 2006, 04:09:03 PM
Does anybody know what actors (?) did the dubbing?? Tha police lieutenent sounds like Michael Ansara, while the repairman sounds like Tom Tryon.Any input??

Other than that, the sex in the elevator (while another couple was present) scene was a bit out of the ordinary, at least for us in the States. Much was left unresolved at the end of the movie, but I guess we have to form our own conclusions, if there is nothing better to occupy our thoughts.


Title: The Lift
Post by: Felix Adelar on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
My obsession with this film began several years ago when I stumbled upon a brief summary of it in Leonard Maltin's movie guide. I live in the US so finding a copy was not easy since our dubbed version on the old Media label has been OOP for many years now. But I have always hated elevators and so I had to get a copy. Finally, I did and have watched the film over and over several times. I like it and the idea horrifies me. People laugh at the idea but think about. Elevators are devices of evil. A box moving up and down in the darkness on a flimsy steel track. Anyways, I'm a big movie buff and I could tell the film was sufffering on pan & scan VHS so I ordered a copy of the DVD from the Netherlands (the only place it is now available) and it is in anamorphic widescreen with a great picture. It is in the original Dutch language and seeing this I now can tell that alot of the dialogue that seems cheesy dubbed was actually well done by the Dutch actors. The movie could have been a lot better but I like the idea too much and have followed this movie down the road long enough to be able to ignore that. It still taps into the atmosphere of my subconcious nightmares just a bit much for comfort. And that is what makes this movie work. I am also looking for the movie Flodder (also a Dick Maas film starring Huub Stapel) with English subtitles or dubbed. If anyone can help, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.  


Title: The Lift
Post by: Kilian on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
De Lift is a true classic. I've seen both the original and the dubbed version and I must say that they pretty much f**ked up with the voice acting. Ofcourse, when is it ever good? :P


Title: The Lift
Post by: Feij„o on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
This movie rocks. It was amazing that I went to vhs rental and saw two movies side-by-side, this one and the Refrigerator. I asked for the owner to sell those two for me but they didn't want anyway, he said they were classics. I didn't argue but got them. He was right. And best of all is to see the Lift spoken in english with legends in portuguese.


Title: The Lift
Post by: Guilherme Oliveira on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
This film was a classic one that i used to watch on a copied tape of my friend's mother video library. At the time i couldn't realise that the film was in deutch. I was a seven year old child taking seriously the fact that elavators could be dangerous. Now I want to watch it again but i can't find a subtitle for it. Portuguese, spanish, italian, english serves to me. But not deuth, i don't know anything about that.  


Title: The Lift
Post by: Pieter de Wolf on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
Dude...fell off my chair and almost died laughing when I discovered De Lift while scrolling through this list. I remember talking about this flick for days when I'd seen it for the first time as a kid. Too bad there aren't any oversized reptiles, insects or amphibians in this one, but it sure beats the hell out of the vast majority of Dutch films and I can actually live with the fact that it's broadcasted on TV at least twice a year.

btw, am I the only one that would like to see Katja Schuurman or Chantal Janzen being eaten by some giant latex critter?;)

P.


Title: The Lift
Post by: Nasty Nate on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
Pretty bad movie, but there is one way to make it a little enjoyable.  Get a good stock of beer and sit down with some friends.  Everytime a character says the word "lift" everyone shouts the word out and drinks.  Much better movie this way.


Title: Re: The Lift
Post by: InformationGeek on August 26, 2008, 05:27:34 PM
First of all, my reaction upon discovering this review was, 'huh?'  Second, "Wait a minute!  A killer elevator movie?"  Third, "I check this out!!"  Overall, another crappy movie and I must say that decapitation reminds me of the Last Crusade for some reason.  For an R film, that wasn't really that graphic, just... weird...


Title: Re: The Lift
Post by: Drake1980 on December 16, 2009, 12:20:43 PM
English:   This is indeed a great dutch horror movie. The first time when i saw this movie, i liked it.  :teddyr:

(Dutch) Nederlands: Dit is inderdaad een geweldige Nederlandse horrorfilm. De eerste keer dat ik deze film zag, vond m al goed.  :teddyr:


Title: Re: The Lift
Post by: John John on August 11, 2010, 05:28:04 AM
I am waiting for the promised follow-up known as "The Escalator"  :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: The Lift
Post by: Leonie on November 19, 2010, 07:55:23 AM
@ Guilherme Oliveira, it is not in Deutsch, it is in Dutch!
Deutsch is the German word for German.
Dutch is the English word for Nederlands (Dutch in Dutch).


Title: Re: The Lift
Post by: katherinec on May 22, 2012, 07:06:18 PM
You can watch "The Lift" and tear it apart together...it's embedded on the page Horrible Movies on Facebook!


Title: Re: The Lift
Post by: Felicity on December 03, 2012, 06:59:54 AM
I just saw this movie, and I would also like to know the names of the English dub actors. Some of them sounded like they were the same actors from Robotech (1980s).

(Neither the closing credits of the movie nor IMDB give the names of the English dub actors.)