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Title: The Sword and the Sorcerer
Post by: Jim Hepler on November 25, 2006, 04:09:03 PM
I like Albert Pyun.  Hah.

Oh yeah, an interesting note: the black guy who pushes the torturer into the grindstone...  Same actor kills the same actor in the Deep.  only in the Deep black guy is bad.

Andrew shoulda gotten a picture of the black silhouete of Talon rushing a huge mob.  Very cool imagery.

Title: The Sword and the Sorcerer
Post by: Chris on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
I always wondered if the table squeaked, or it was Talon ripping a huge fart after he said "but my sword is poised!" (listen for the squeak).

My vote goes for the latter of the two.

Title: The Sword and the Sorcerer
Post by: Squishy on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
Unable to give the, eh, "hero" a lightsaber, they instead give him the most unwieldly piece of hardware imaginable. How would one sheathe the stupid thing? C'mon, a skinny kid with a sharp stick could've bested this goof with his Swiss Army Sword any hour of the day. Eyow! Matt Houston the Barbarian? I say thee nay!

Title: The Sword and the Sorcerer
Post by: BoyScoutKevin on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
You mean the filmmakers actually paid someone to write a script for this film. They should get their money back. Having said that, I am glad to see this film review. Not for the film, which I found to be mediocre at best, but for the incident which happened in the theater, where I was watching it. Someplace in the movie, Verdugo (Robert Tessier) the bald executioner asks the prisioners something, and Morgan (Earl Maynard) one of the prisioners replies: "What do you want, potato head?" At this, half of the theater audience was
ROTFL. A short time later, while half of the audience was still on the floor, Verdugo gets his face shoved into a moving grindstone, and everything goes spraying. And some guy in the audience, no doubt inspired by what was said before, yells out: "Hey! That looks good!" At this, the other half of the audience joins the first half of the audience on the floor. This almost beats the time I saw "Zulu Dawn" at a multiplex in downtown Portland, Oregon, in a theater filled with American Indians. Enjoy

Title: The Sword and the Sorcerer
Post by: xussia on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
Has a unique sense of awful charm. Like a kid with an ice cream in one hand and a shotgun in the other. I think Capt. Morgan should have had more of a part to play and what's with the final fight scenes... what are they, russian swords? They seem to have all sorts of tinier swords hidden in each bit.

Plus - what is the deal with that snake and the princess towards the end... you'll know the part I mean when you see it!

Xusia - cool
Talon - bad bad hair as a teenage boy
Cromwell - dasterdly
Princess - nice arse.

Not great, but weirdly cool.

Title: The Sword and the Sorcerer
Post by: Neville on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
There is little doubt Albert Pyun is one of those film directors whose works should be kept away from people with brains. They are damaging... The only problem they have is that apart from being terrible Ąthey are boring! If you have the guts, I challenge you to watch "Mean guns" and
"Adrenalin: fear the rush" in a double session. But don't invite friends, you could loose them forever.

BTW, if there is any interesting website dedicated exclusevely to such a filmaker like Pyun (I am using the word "filmaker" in its widest sense) please make me know.

Oh, I recently saw "Omega Doom" on my VHS. I should have known from the starting credits that was gonna hurt.. My brains! My guts! Ooooaaaaawwwwwww!!!!!!

Title: The Sword and the Sorcerer
Post by: Dan on September 28, 2001, 07:56:07 AM
Supplied some material for many a game of dungeons and dragons. Loved the look of the sorceror. the sword just cracks me up though. Fires blades like a  medieval rocket launcher- and accurately !!

Title: The Sword and the Sorcerer
Post by: Roy Smith on December 17, 2001, 03:46:35 AM
And no one mentions Kathleen Beller, the Jennifer Connelly of her time?  For shame...

Title: The Sword and the Sorcerer
Post by: ThufferMudfoot on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
I saw this Movie in the theatre for my 11th Birthday party. I conned my Dad into taking me and i think 4 other friends. My dad had never heard of it, and we were all so into Dungeons and Dragons at the time. We would do anything to go see it. When we got to the theare, we professed innocence when It was rated R. I dunno how we all got in, but we did. (I still thank my dad to this day for not turning the car around and taking us home right then and there, hell we were only 11 year old kids afterall)

Well we sit down to watch, all 5 Pepsisugar high kids, and 1 bored Adult. Well the movie started and all hell broke loose. I mean one of the first scenes was a Womans heart being ripped out by a Pus, and Blood soaked deamon. Not to menthion the tourtures and moaning faces traped in the Evil wizards coffin (man that freeked me out at that age, its still kinda gross today.) Well I looked at my dad, and i could see the look of (o s**t, what are the other parents gonna say) look on his face. I felt bad for my dad, but the movie was just to cool to not watch. All us kids were entranced by the film. The half necked bare brested Women in the Harem sceen, I was sure my Dad would take us home right there. I remember thinkng crap, thats it, were toast, were done for now. We'll never find out if Cromwell gets defeated now. But somehow fate interviened and my Dad just sat there with the rest of us watching in Awe (shock fer my Dad).

When the flick ended. We were kinda stunned alll of us. We knew we loved it, but the magnitude of the the Gore and Titilations of the film kinda stunned us all, including my Dad into an eire silence.

I was amazed that none of the other kids parents called my Dad complaining as to how he could expose them to such filth. But I guess my pals knew how lucky we were to see this kinda film at such a young age.

Still remains one of my favorite memory of seing a movie in a theatre, as Odd as that may sound.

Title: The Sword and the Sorcerer
Post by: Iressivor on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
Awesome movie.  One of my all-time favorites since I was a little boy.  While everyone else was enthralled with Conan the Barbarian and other such "higher profile" 80's fantasy films, I had my eyes glued to this one.  

The characters and dialogue are great in this film.  Richard Lynch performs beautifully as Cromwell; he simply exudes evil.  Lee Horsley also does an admirable job as Talon, and really makes the hero worth cheering for.  Overall, the supporting cast does very well, too.  Kathleen Beller makes a strong, yet sensual performance as Alana, and Prince Mikah, played by Simon MacCorkindale, shines prominently in one of the movie's best scenes, in the torture chamber with Cromwell.

The only thing that was really lacking in this movie was the script, which was originally quite a bit longer.  As I've heard, nearly an hour of footage was left out of the final cut, all of which can be read in Norman Winski's novel, which is based on the original screenplay.  The book delves deeper into young Talon's sibling rivalry with his older brother, Duncan, and his relationship with Alana, who was Talon's love interest long before they met in the movie.  Some other points of interest from the book:

-- Talon's triple-bladed sword was designed by King Richard.  Aside from its mechanical spring-loaded blades, the sword itself is a blessed artifact, and thus magically heals the wounds that Talon suffers from the crucifix spikes.

-- Talon and Mikah actually grew up together in Eh-Dan, and knew each other quite well.  The movie credits also have a listing for a "Young Mikah" character, who was part of the many scenes cut from the film.

-- A still photo from one of the film's deleted scenes is printed on the back cover of the novel, and depicts King Richard having tackled Cromwell to the ground after being captured by the outlaw king's forces.

The novel itself is a great read, and serves as a perfect component for the film's various plot holes.  If you're a fan of the movie, I would encourage you to pick it up.  You can readily find a few copies for sale on Amazon or eBay.

Though it's the kind of movie that you either love or hate, I will freely admit to loving every minute of this one.

Title: The Sword and the Sorcerer
Post by: Dakin on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
You know, I find it somewhat surprising that no-one mentions that this is one of the few movies in which you can actually watch someone die.  The stuntman falling off the cliff missed the airbag and died, but the directors in their wisdom left the scene in.  A grisly statement about Hollywood:  "Why pay for that scene twice?  It looks very realistic the way it is!"

Title: The Sword and the Sorcerer
Post by: KK on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
Gotta admit I've wanted to see this one for a long time; it's one of those movies that you can really love-to-hate.  Now I saw it as an adult - mom of four - and I enjoyed it... campy-ness and all.  I like sorcery tales and
good-guys-end-up-successful (and laid) and bad-guys-end-up-dead (usually in a suitably gory fashion) type of movies (I also like run-on sentences). There were so many laugh-out loud scenes, I'm sure the rest of my family was finally convinced I've totally lost it.  Love Lee Horsley (drooled over "Matt Houston") and gotta LOVE seeing "Frank" aka "Darius" (Joe Regalbuto) actually get a girl... Love the sword-play (and word play "'Now that's a small threat... a very small threat.'") The sexual innuendo is wonderful - you can't watch this movie without a sense of humour!!  And I absolutely LOVE this 'Leave your comment' forum and all the wonderful comments!  Thanks for the treat!  

Title: The Sword and the Sorcerer
Post by: George on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
 I saw this on a double bill with "Conan The Barbarian" at a theater and, to this day, love these flicks! Talon's sword is totally cool, but where does he obtain replacement blades? Did Gillette have a factory in the area? Yes, K. Beller is HOT! Who wouldn't want to sample her bounty? It's always cool to see Richard Lynch in a B movie. Anyone ever see "God Told Me To"(1976)? Strange, low budget, sci-fi/horror/violence-and-mayhem flick from New World Pictures is worth a look. Mr. Lynch plays a glowing, hippie-like villian! How cool is that? Sadly, Lynch also appeared in that crappy Chuck Norris movie "Invasion USA"(1985).Great bad guy in crappy movie-how original. Albert Pyun also directed the teenage vigilante flick "Dangerously Close" (1986/Cannon Pictures) and that timeless JC VanDamme sci-fi/actioner "Cyborg" (1989/Cannon Pictures). Watch these if you dare!

Title: The Sword and the Sorcerer
Post by: TimTE01 on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
This movie is just awesome.  From that sword to Bull from Night Court as an evil sorcerer, it's classic.  Bonus points for having the bald guy from Murphy Brown cut someone's face in half.

But, above all else, it's notable for promising a sequel that, sadly, never got made.  If they had made that and the third Dr. Phibes movie, we'd have peace in the Middle East.

(It really won't, but just play along.  We need all the leverage we can get.)

Title: The Sword and the Sorcerer
Post by: jmsynth on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
I found this film pretty boring, but I'm no fan of the whole SaS genre, so, to be honest, I'd still rather see this than Conan or the LOTR films!

Title: The Sword and the Sorcerer
Post by: jmsynth on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
Oh yeah, I'd Just like to add this film made $39mil in the US and was the 18th most successful film in it's year. The 18th most successful film of last year (Fun With Dick and Jane) made $110mil! ($200mil worldwide.) Think about that.

Title: Re: The Sword and the Sorcerer
Post by: Wally on January 18, 2007, 01:12:42 AM
I saw this with some friends back in 83 when I was 11 and found it very disturbing. I actually held my hands up to cover my eyes during some scenes. I saw it a few years back and found it rather lame.

Title: Re: The Sword and the Sorcerer
Post by: hanelpanel on October 17, 2007, 04:08:57 PM
Another hilarious review. This one had a good AD&D reference (fireball/contingency/permanency), a Brooks/Tolkien/Eddings reference, and a jaws reference at the end.

One of my favorite reviews so far!

Title: Re: The Sword and the Sorcerer
Post by: indianasmith on October 17, 2007, 10:34:55 PM
Oh, how I loved this movie!! It still has one of the best closing lines of any movie, ever, in history -

"Ride on then!! We have kingdoms to save and women to love!!!"

Title: Re: The Sword and the Sorcerer
Post by: 1911A1 on January 08, 2008, 11:08:49 PM
supposedly there a chick with three brests in this movie. true or not

Title: Re: The Sword and the Sorcerer
Post by: indianasmith on January 08, 2008, 11:55:35 PM
No, that was in another barbarian movie from around the same time, with David Carradine, I think . . . maybe The Princess and the Warrrior?  It's been a LONG time.

Title: Re: The Sword and the Sorcerer
Post by: Andrew on January 09, 2008, 06:05:33 AM
supposedly there a chick with three brests in this movie. true or not

That would be "The Warrior and the Sorceress."  A review:

Title: Re: The Sword and the Sorcerer
Post by: FLU-BIRD on January 24, 2009, 04:57:29 PM
Made about the same time when they were making these cheesey sward and sorcery movies and it got to become old hat after a while and downright boring

Title: Re: The Sword and the Sorcerer
Post by: Halfabubbleoff on February 06, 2009, 11:48:05 AM
Bit of an update here.

For those of us to have.... ahem... "fond" memories of this film, the long promised sequel is in production now.  All that remains is the Hwk the Slayer sequel!

 Here is a link to some details from AICN:

Brief intro form the site:

Merrick here...

A while back, we learned that director Albert Pyun was ramping up to shoot TALES OF AN ANCIENT EMPIRE, a pseudo-sequel to THE SWORD AND THE SORCERER (HERE).

This came as quite a surprise, given that the film was promised at the end of SWORD (released back in 1982) and was widely assumed to have been forgotten in the subsequent 27 years.

Nevertheless, TALES began filming December 16 and we have some images from the first and second days of shooting.

Title: Re: The Sword and the Sorcerer
Post by: spongy on September 29, 2009, 07:45:12 PM
Man, does anybody remember the early days of TBS? When all they used to show was reruns of Nightcourt, Beastmaster and this? Awsome days. They once had Sword and Socery week. Everynight for a week at 9pm, a truly awsome movie of high calibur such as this one was aired. Beastmaster,The Sword and the Socerer, Conan the Destroyer, Red Sonia, and some flick called Ator, which I'm sure is on here. BEST WEEK EVER when I was nine in the summer of 89.

A Sequel you say? With Kevin Sorbor (the man who just may usurp Bruce Cambells B-Movie kingship)? A bunch of random hot chicks with swords? Sign me the eff up.

Title: Re: The Sword and the Sorcerer
Post by: Lev Lafayette on January 09, 2010, 05:13:20 AM
Was impressed with this when it came out and quite enjoyed it when I recently watched it again, although the plot does jump around it is mostly fairly sound. Nice special effects with the raising of the sorcerer at the start. Some eye candy. Some pretty silly fight scenes.

One thing that we did notice when watching it which somebody may care to confirm; isn't the princess Talon's sister?