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Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: deelite on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
Oh Darling you looked so ravishing.
all iI have to say is
"No WIRE HANGERS!!!!!!!
great filming productions would love to see more film like this I recommend some oters such as the bad seec, whatever
happen to baby jane, hush hush sweet charlotte.


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: Bill on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
What a movie! My best friend and I always quote this flick at least once a day. My boyfriend thinks I'm crazy, but this is one of my favorite movies of all time.  

Can someone please translate the demonic chant Joan launches into while jogging? That scene just cracks me up.

The absolutely funniest part is at the end of the comet cleanser bathroom scene when Joan says "figure it out" right before her eyes cross.

I already own the video, but now I have to get the DVD, the tape is getting worn out from overuse.


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: Mary on November 25, 2006, 04:09:03 PM
After watching this movie, I had an uncontrollable urge to go home and scrub my floors.


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: larry on November 25, 2006, 04:09:03 PM
This is my least favorite movie in the world.Everytime I see even part of it i get nightmares for 2 weeks.If this happened now Dyfs would put Christina in a foster home.Back in the 50,s child abuse was rampant and excepted.The way she had to work her way through school after Joan lied and said she had no money.,after buying all that stuff.The lie about her being expelled and that reporter doing nothing to stick up for Christina.The Convent ,I hope that Nun learned that Chrsitina was not bad just abused.To be stuck there for 4 yrs with no priviliges.The wire hanger nonsense and the raw steak Horror movies dont scare me mommie dearest does,i just had to sit through it at a friends house saturday night and have not slept well since.The movie came out in 1981 ,why are they still playing it on HBo.

 larry


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: Melissa on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
I love the movie and I am looking for black and white photo's of the scenes where she is putting ice on her face after cleaning it, any thoughts?


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: David Fullam on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
WHAT A MOVIE! I first saw Mommie Dearest on cable in the early 80s and instantly fell in love with this wonderfully trashy piece of pop culture. Get out the bathroom cleanser, the wire coat hangers and whoop on that brat!

But you left out one of the best quotes in the qoutes section, "Christina, bring me the axe!"


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: Mike on November 25, 2006, 04:09:03 PM
If you look beyond the camp...I mean REALLY LOOK...you can see an incredible performance by Faye Dunaway.  She truly meant to portray a very disturbed woman (JC) for who she was - a survivor, but also a victim.

The movie is trash.  The performance is not.


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: Jon W on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
Wow, you can't FIND better camp then this. Joan was certainly scarrier then any of the other monsters featured on this site.


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: Calle on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
This movie is absolutely fantastic! I love it! It's so funny...

"TIIIIINAAAAA!   BRING ME THE AXE!"

"I'm not mad at you! I'm mad at the dirt!"


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: jimmy on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
Faye's supposed to ALWAYS look like Joan.  But, why did they forget the makeup for the walk-along-the-beach "I want a kid" scene?  She looks like the Faye from "Network".
Also, lighting where her cheekbones are really accentuated (blue robe, taking baby Christina upstairs) NEVER look like Joan.  Wonder how original choice, Anne Bancroft, would have compared, looks-wise?  


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: Frances Sutton on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
I think one of the best bits was in the boardroom where Joan says "don't f**k with me fellahs!'  I thought it was hysterically funny and utterly, utterly camp. What I want to know is-where are Christina  and Christopher now? poor lambs, what a terrible woman she was.


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: KidGotSpunk on November 26, 2002, 04:58:26 AM
BAMM! that was a pretty funny ass clip you put on the site but fricken disturbing.  I love this movie, i saw it when i was 7... stained me for life HAHAH!


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: Chris on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
Mommie Dearest is my absolute FAVORITE movie! Joan was a hard-working, single mother trying to make it in Hollywood. She showered Christina and Christopher with gifts, love and lessons in maintaining cleanliness. And what did she get? " A DAUGHTER, who cares more about her beautiful dresses, than she cares about ME !(JC)"   Christina deserved everything she got!!!

Honestly, this is the best movie.....ever!  My friends and I can never get enough of all the dramatics and of course the camp!  I they made a sequel!!


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: Lady Lucifer on May 08, 2004, 01:48:06 PM
One of my favorite parts is where Gregg shakes her up for calling him every low down name in Hollywood.  He then forces her to admit that she is krazy!


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: Scott on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
I have always thought Faye Dunaway was a lousy actress, and her over-the-top "performance" in MOMMIE DEAREST proves it.  There is no characterization here to speak of; this woman is a cartoon character staright out of the old horror comics.

The beauty part is that this movie is so awful it's funny.  I have seen it dozens of times, and I simply HOWL with laughter every time.

One bit of VERY bad casting that the original reviewer missed.  Diana Scarwid, a fine actress, has never quite been able to rid herself of her thick Southern accent.  One minute we have Mara Hobel as the child Christina; the next we have Scarwid (who looks WAYY too old to be 13) reading from ANTIGONE with a Southern accent so thick a knife couldn't cut it.  And it gets worse when she gets mad...check out the way she delivers the line, "Whah did yew adopt me???"



Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: Seangstm on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
"Too bad the old witch didn't go to jail for child abuse.
I can't imagine beating an innocent child with dutch cleanser.
The woman was a sociopath. I hope that Christina and Christopher made millions from this movie. They deserved to."

What proof do you have that she abused them?  A book written by her daughter after she was cut out of the will, right?

WRONG.  Christina conveniently switched the timeline of two events - Joan KNEW about the book and THAT is why she cut Chrstina out of the will.  The movie makes it look like being cut out of the will was the FINAL STRAW that DROVE Christina to write the book - which is a bald-faced lie.

Also, Christina Crawford is widely publicized as finding this subject matter humurous and worthy of ridicule.  Interesting...

If you actually research into Christina Crawford an abject occupational failure throughout her life until she wrote this book, you might not take the movie as being gospel.  It bears ZERO resemblence to the truth.


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: danger on May 26, 2003, 06:16:27 PM
I laughed my ass off when Gregg, after getting naked to join Joan in the shower, puts on a towel to walk the 4 ft. to the bathroom!!! And, why is Christina still a little girl when Christopher is 7 yrs old??? She never ages from when we first see him as a baby! Why did joan always strap poor Chris into bed? Was she worried about some weird incest thing? Ok, my imagination is running away from me! Why MST3K never got ahold of this flick is beyond me.


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: David Williams on November 25, 2006, 04:09:03 PM
I think it is the most awesome movie ever made.  I own the DVD and play it over and over.  I am a huge fan of Faye Darling!


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: Christina Darling on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
This is positively my FAVORITE movie of all time....My mom cries when we watch it, but I almost vomit from laughing so damn hard.  It's the best ever!  "Alright, Jimmy!"


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: Dearest Hearts on November 12, 2003, 11:50:24 PM
This is the best website ever created for the best movie ever made.


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: Scon on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
My bestfriend and I too quote this movie at least once a day.  It is our FAVORITE.  I think my favorite scene has to be a tie between NO WIRE HANGERS and the boardroom scene.  "I work and work until I'm half dead, and I hear them say she's getting old.  And what do I get...A daughter who cares as much about the beatiful dresses I give her as she cares about ME."  But then there is..."You don't know what hard feelings are until I come out public against your product...then see how much you sell."  I LOVE THIS MOVIE...!!!


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: anita on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
MOMIE DEAREST is a hysterical,trashy and not believable,cheap
Soap-Opera with a  flat ,cardboard description of Joan Crawford.
The Movie presents  Christina also unrealistic as a suffering angel.
Even Faye Dunaway's brilliant performance can not save the movie from being an utter Disaster. I


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: Joan Crawford on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
It is ALL me...it is ALL true! But there is so much they left out. I created so many types of punishment for that ungrateful BRAT Christina, there wasn't enough time in the movie to show them all. "Mommie Dearest" is a JOY and a TREASURE. I can only equate it with the Technicolor musical treasures from Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer! I fully approve of the film and I wish they had asked me to consult because some scenes (particulatly the mad punishment scenes) were too toned-down in comparison to what REALLY happened. But I am satisfied-Barbara Stanwyck feels the same way-we talk about it. I leave all of you with this loving tribute...
"Discipline mixed with love is such a GOOD recipe".


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: JD on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
"I should've known you'd know where to find the boys AND the booze."


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: Bette Davis on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
Goddamit Joan!  WHY didn't you include MEEEEE?!  I gave you perfectly good childrearing advice and what did you do - you ignored me anyhow.  Just like on Baby Jane!  I AM the superior actress and mother.  You're just a silly old whore from Texas without the wonderful Yankee genes I have.  Keeeyrist!  How embarassing for you.

Sincerely,
Bette


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: PsychoMama on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
"DON'T YOU DARE JUDGE ME!"
"We have our moral and legal responsibilities!"
"What you're doing in denying one of your children the chance to live a WONDERFUL AND ADVANTAGED LIFE!"


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: danny on September 24, 2004, 06:33:14 PM
The beautiful, Faye Dunaway,in everything that she does she is a divalike actress, this movie has all my favourite elements of trashynes, glamour, suffering,the life of another great and unusual actress-joan crawford. It is one of my favourite of all time, it is simple Im gay.


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: DENRON on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
The BEST line in the whole movie!
"You're nothing but a rotten, crooked lawyer supplying the grease that makes this sh*tty movie business work. You think your life's a mystery! There isn't a dirty cover-up in this entire business that I don't know about, and your hand is in every one of them! You REEK of it!!"


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: Mommie Queerest on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
"What about the socks?" dramtic pause
"I can handle...the..sockths"

Is this a reference to some kinky foot/sock fetish?  Joan never had a lisp either, her diction was affected, yet perfect.


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: Lewis on March 14, 2005, 08:17:36 PM
The only question that I have is why did the boy had to be strapped to the bed when he slept?  Great movie by the way!


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: ChristopherStraps on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
Here's the actual lines from the movies, to prevent some misquotations:

"God, I HATE this night!  Turns every year into a CRISIS!"

"Should've known you'd know where to find the boys AND the booze."

"Barbara, please! Please, Barbara!  Leave us alone, Barbara.  If you need anything, ask Carol Ann."

"Damn you! Are you crazy? TELL ME!"

"Hauling me over to Mayer's table like some picked-up floosy! Or one of those starlets? Out to show the big shots a nice night in town! Is that what you think of me?"

"Dammit! Perrino's is MY place!"

"How? HOW could you let this happen? And you! How could you HUMILIATE me this way? I'm ashamed to be your mother!"

"Is this an instituion of learning or a teenage BROTHEL?"

"Ah! You lost again!"

"Vita, don't say that!"

"She negotiates EVERYTHING like a goddamned Hollywood agent."

"Why must EVERYTHING be a contest?!"

"Christina...eat your lunch!"

"You drove Al Steele to his grave and now you're trying to stab me in the back? FORGET IT! I fought worse monsters than you for YEARS in Hollywood, I know how to win the hard way!"

"Yah...you're nothing but a rotten, crooked lawyer supplying the grease that makes this sh*tty movie business work.  You think your life's a mystery...there isn't a dirty cover-up in this entire business that I don't know about and your hand is in every one of them you REEK of it!"

"CAROL ANN!!! I had ASKED you to keep the children QUIET today! Now for Christ's sake get them OUT of the garden!"

"No Wire Hangers! What's wire hangers doing in this closet when I told you 'No wire hangers EVER'!  I work and work...till I'm half DEAD and I hear people saying she's getting old.  And what do I get?  A DAUGHTER! Who cares as much about the beautiful dresses I give her, as she cares about ME! What's wire hangers doing in this closet?  I buy you BEAUTIFUL dresses, and you treat them like they were dishrags! You'd put a three hundred dollar dress on a wire hanger!  We'll see how many wire hangers you've gotten hidden over here!  We'll see! WE'LL SEE! Get out of that bed [sic]!  We're gonna see how many wire hangers you've got hidden in your closet!  Wha? Wire hangers, why? WHY...Christina get out of that bed...Get out of that bed.  You live in the most beautiful house in Brentwood and you don't care!  And your clothes have stretch-marks from wire hangers! And you're room looks like some two dollar refurbished room in some two-bit backstreet town in Oklahoma!  Get up, get up, clean up this mess!"


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: Steve on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
One of my favourite scenes is when, after crying poor to Cristina , she is found drunk with shopping bags full of new designer shoes...then she sluurs ..."Cristina Dhaaling..a pillow is a lousy substitute for somebody who really cares..."


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: Michael on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
Too bad the old witch didn't go to jail for child abuse.
 I can't imagine beating an innocent child with dutch cleanser.
The woman was a sociopath. I hope that Christina and Christopher made millions from this movie. They deserved to.





Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: John on November 25, 2006, 04:09:03 PM
This was the first movie where an Oscar winning actress portrayed another Oscar winning actress.  


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: SAPennmark on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
Too bad in all the reviews not one comment on L.B. Mayer's "Joan, Joan, Joan, Joan, JOOOOOAAAAANNNN!  I saw the premier of Mommie Dearest, and remarkably, before it was shown nationwide, they paired it down to only two "Joans" though I heard on Cable the following year they left it in.  Does anyone else have first-hand knowledge of this.

Steve Pennmark,
Beverly Hills


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: Westner on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
You guys have to watch this film in the portuguese dubbed version..it ads to an already over-the-top interpretation a lousy translation and an even MORE over-the-top dubbing by some crazy woman. It's unparalleled.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zl8HbWel7oM

Westner,

Săo Paulo,Brazil


Title: Mommie Dearest
Post by: Carly Emerick on November 25, 2006, 04:09:03 PM
The only thing better than this movie is Bill Van Ryns review of it!



Title: Re: Mommie Dearest
Post by: Norma Robles on January 30, 2007, 04:29:58 AM
This is weird,writing on what I feel about the movie, Mommy Dearest.What can I say, it's like seeing "mom" the way she was with me when I was younger.Always but always worried about the way she'd carry herself & what people thought!!!My parents got divorced when I was 8. Mom changed after that. This,  but really...this feels weird typing this,cause of all the phisical & mental abuse through 6 years after dad left,it feels good writing down my feelings. It does!I'm 35...married.Married to my Rey and enjoy our stay for now in North Carolina.(From Texas)I Have an 19yr old daughter & an 11yr old son,here w/me.(Heather,my daughter is back in Texas for college) uhmm, Maybe my point is or tring to be is that "mom" was freaking abusive and now in my life w/friends & family,I'll say..You can't just spank or abuse your kids,talk to them...just talk to them!! The movie,it does'nt fail, but it brings back so many memories. Wish I had a few pages to register what I'd have to say,regardless,now,for now,I feel better!!   Norma  (Texan native) and enjoying Noth Carolina for now.


Title: Re: Mommie Dearest
Post by: asimpson2006 on December 01, 2007, 11:32:48 PM
If you looked CAMP in the dictionary, you would see Mommie Dearest in it.  I loved the film, which is odd imo, b/c I'm a guy and I'm not gay.  I just though it to be unique and interesting.  To bad Faye Dunaway pretty much tries to act as this film exists


Title: Re: Mommie Dearest
Post by: AllisonSNLKid on June 29, 2008, 09:35:43 PM
My father and I are absolutely in love with this movie (or just total suckers for it!) - we watch it EVERY TIME it's on TV and I'm home to see it.  My mother, on the other hand, hates this movie with a passion. 

Faye Dunaway is extremely over-the-top in this movie, a performance that probably would have derived more than a few choice comments from Ms. Crawford had she been alive to see the end result (or, in the very least, the book that inspired it).  But, then again, she DID make those incredibly insane movies in the 1960s and 1970s at her absolute worst.

This movie is a total camp fest - my absolute favorite part, besides the classic wire hangers scene (my mom hates wire hangers too, but I'm usually the one who is quick to quote the scene!), is the rose garden massacre the night MGM fired her - because we all know it's proper to work in the garden while dressed in your awards show finest.  I absolutely love quoting (simultaneously with Joan, of course) the funniest line in the rampage - "TINA!  Bring me the AXE!"

An absolute hootfest - comes highly recommended for those who enjoy classically Bad Movies...or, at least quoting them!


Title: Re: Mommie Dearest
Post by: george on June 30, 2008, 10:08:43 AM
mommie trancends all labels, faye is fab and the film is a joy to watch over and over. see it as camp or a tale of alledged abuse, and notice their is not another actor of merit in it, who could withstand our faye. i truly wish they could find some of the unused footage


Title: Re: Mommie Dearest
Post by: Bobby the K on April 12, 2009, 05:37:25 PM
~

One thing I would say is that the reason she's hacking down the flower garden (i think it's mostly tulips) is because it was L.B. Mayer who gave her all the bulbs, and i expect the tree as well.

Too bad the movie didn't mention that, why her brother had the harness thing on. And of course there were actually 5 children.

But i am watching it for the first time and it is indeed awesome. And i would recommend therefore you see 'Grey Gardens'  if you haven't already.


Title: Re: Mommie Dearest
Post by: austinpadet on October 25, 2009, 09:49:02 AM
A four slimmer no queston about it! If you haven't seen it don't miss it! You won't be sorry. I've also read the book. I felt sorry for Tina in the book but not in the movie.

My queston is did the director expect the viewing public to take this movie seriously?

My favorite part is after the " Why can't you give me the respect that I'm entitled to?" quote. Then Joan jumps on to of Tina and starts to strangle her and slam her head on the floor. The funniest part of this scene is you can see Tina's underware for a second wile Jone is bouncing up and down on her.

They should have had a drag queen play the role of Joan instead of Faye Dunaway.   


Title: Re: Mommie Dearest
Post by: Rene on January 26, 2010, 10:46:47 AM
I like this movie.  IDK why but I do.  I took it as true until I started reading stories written about it, which leads me to believe that Hollywood "juiced" it up to make it better for the big screen.  And you must also think about the daughter, if she was indeed abused, would she not "juice" it up to make it a better story, or did she really endure those things. Mental illness is a MF, and if not treated, things like this can happen, the funny thing is, I have been beat with a metal hanger, a plastic hanger, an extention cord, a belt and a stick. Makes me wonder if I can sell my story, cause to be honest, Christina did not have it as hard as I did. Maybe the fact that her mother was famous is what makes her story so great. I know the movie makes me laugh, the funniest part of the movie, that I must rewind to laugh at over and over again is when her first love shook the crap at of her.  The whole scene itself is just funny as hell to me and as I write about it and picture it in my head I am laughing. :cheers:


Title: Re: Mommie Dearest
Post by: srsly on September 13, 2010, 02:17:14 PM
There are a couple things I feel I must point out to the author of the main review on this site.

1.” Somehow they convinced a serious actress like Faye Dunaway to act like a complete maniac” –Oh I’m sorry we didn’t realize you were an expert in Joan Crawford’s personal behaviors outside of her films.  Perhaps Ms. Crawford was a “Complete Maniac” in which case Ms. Dunaway’s performance would be spot on.

2.” then drags the fight into the bathroom and beats Christina with a couple cans of cleanser.”-Actually there was only one can of cleanser.  Perhaps you should have been watching the movie more closely if you had planned on posting a review online for the world to see.  It only makes you look like a pretentious a****le

3.” The director seems to be trying to make some sort of weird hybrid of a horror film and a daytime drama.”-You must be new at this.  In the business the term “horror” generally implies something that is supernatural.  There is nothing supernatural about this movie.  I have never heard anybody compare this movie in the same way.  Your analogy is absurd.

4.” Businessmen in charge of large corporations are easily shocked by the "F" word.”-Is this sarcasm?  Your lame attempt at sarcasm fails to point out the fact that this meeting would have occurred in 1959-60 where it was certainly a rarity to find women in the board room but also for women be shouting the f word in the board room….so yes in this portrayed day and time it would have been very shocking.

5.” My mother wasn't really that neurotic after all.”-We don’t know your mother and we don’t care.


Title: Re: Mommie Dearest
Post by: xenia2012 on November 06, 2011, 01:47:10 AM
I just want to say to all of you on this thread who think that this movie was exaggerated, or ridiculous, or that Christina Crawford was lying or just trying to make Joan look bad; it is neither a lie nor ridiculous. My mother has what psychologists believe that Joan had and did just as bad if not worse to us kids, and the saddest part is that it continues to happen in this day and age and the kids normally won't say anything about the abuse because they are either too scared, or they care more for their Borderline parent than that parent cares for them. I somehow made it thorough the hell that was my childhood and survived, and managed to help my mother through it as well, but I really DO NOT APPRECIATE people who do not know what they are talking about saying that the scenes shown are untrue. Living through a similar hell (my mother made Joan look like a nice person when she was in a rage) I can tell you first hand that this is pretty much scene for scene true. Also for anyone who has a family member who acts like Joan, the condition that my mother has is called " Borderline Personality Disorder" and if you have a loved one who may have this, know that they truly need your help, and one final tip do not try to tell the person who you believe to be borderline that they have the disorder you should seek professional help.


Title: Re: Mommie Dearest
Post by: luvhangova on January 13, 2017, 10:46:35 AM
Joan/Faye:  "Is this an institution for learning or a TEEN AGE BROTHEL !!???"

Joan/Faye:  "Who wants to go swimming?? (evil smile)