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Title: Superman IV
Post by: emmerson on July 01, 2002, 02:26:27 PM
this was the best superman yet.nuclear man was the best villain out of all the superman trilogy.

Title: Superman IV
Post by: Liu Kang on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
I think a woman could totally breath in space!
I think that its not totally ironic that Nuclear Man and Superman each grab the exact same section of the Statue of Liberty when flying with it.
I think Superman has allways had the power to restore a building or a wall just by looking at it.
I think I was totally frightened for Superman when I heard Nuclear Man say, "First, I have some fun."
I think that Superman totally did not look like a panzy when fighting with Nuclear Man in outer space.

This movie gets 4 great big stars from me!

Title: Superman IV
Post by: Dan Sjöström on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
Well, personally I neither thought this was a good nor a bad flick. I watched it couple of times on TV and I just started thinking: "OK so this is the 4th Superman movie. Well, it could´ve been worse and it could certainly have been better."

On the website you can read about all the Superman movies, even the pre-Chris Reeve ones in black and white, and also the Supergirl movie. Anyway, in the Superman IV section you can read that cut off a lot of footage showing that Luthor actually made two Nuclear Men and the only one showing in the movie is N-Man Mk. 2, while the first one was like Bizarro or Edward Scissorhands without the scissors! I wonder what this movie would´ve been like with that footage still in the movie?

Title: Superman IV
Post by: David Fullam on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
Superman did not deserve this. Isn't it funny how the Cosmonauts at the start of the film had to wear space suits, but Lacy could somehow survive without one? Did any thought go into this movie? Like you said, they ignored Superman 3, they also ignored the fact that green crystal was used to create the Fortress of Solitude back in the first film and to give Supes back his powers in part 2. What is it doing back on the farm? What a way to trash the Superman legacy.

Title: Superman IV
Post by: Charles Wagner on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
Oh, come on, Superman III was so much worse than this one. I'm not trying to excuse this travesty, but the girl getting absorbed into the giant computer and thus becoming a robot at the end of part three made me laugh and cry and be sick all at once. Bad movies at its worst, i say.

Title: Superman IV
Post by: Paul Westbrook on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
Undisputedly, the worst Superman movie ever made. The flying sequences were awful, and where was Lana Lang? I hope if there is a fifth film in the series, it doesn't follow the pattern of this pile of garbage.

Title: Superman IV
Post by: Rob on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
Ugh!  I remember seeing this years ago when it had first come onto cable!  Give me the good old days with Marlon Brando as Jor-El and Terrence Stamp as General Zod!  Even the movie with Richard Pryor is more desirable than this!  There was some promise in the plot, but they didn't do anything with it!  Out of curiosity, would it have made the movie better or worse if they played "Dark Side of the Moon" by Pink Floyd when Nuclear Man was thrown onto the moon in the elevator?  I'm just rambling.  God, this movie was bad.

Title: Superman IV
Post by: ozymandias on November 28, 2001, 10:48:20 PM
oh my god. unbelievably bad. ranks with batman and robin as worst piece of crap superhero flick ever put on celluloid. all responsible for it should be sterilized or shot.

Title: Superman IV
Post by: Roy Smith on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
So now Superman gets to decide how we defend ourselves?  Who elected him?  I saw recruit a sniper and give him Kyptonite ammo - we don't live in a Dictatorship.

Title: Superman IV
Post by: Chadzilla on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
It should be noted that the Salkinds (producers of Superman 1 - 3) dropped out of this little misfire.  It was in fact produce by crap kings Golan/Globus by their Cannon Group Inc. for Warner Bros to distribute.  I have also heard that the movie was trimmed by, at least, thirty minutes to squeeze more showings in on opening day (a little trick they evidently pulled with the Stallone misire Cobra).  That would explain the somewhat choppy editting and disjointed feel to some of the movie.  But even in a restored version I don't think it would be anything more than two slimes.  Dumb fun, but painful too.

Title: Superman IV
Post by: Funk, E. on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
There should be a support group for post Superman 2 viewers. Though the unprotected woman in space issue is a legitamate there is a similar problem in the first Superman movie. Remember the "interview scene" where Superman takes Lois on a fly by of New Y... I mean Metroplolis? Why isn't she shivering to death? How is she keeping even with him when their barely holding on by their fingure tips? Does Superman's powers subdue wind resistence? Physics has never been the series' strong suit.

Title: Superman IV
Post by: goldman on February 26, 2002, 10:10:32 PM
Say what??? This is an awesome movie!! It hits you where you stings, dude, you just gotta bust loose on this thang!! I loves this movie; dig it good. Lois had the moves....

Title: Superman IV
Post by: Creamy on March 10, 2002, 06:50:33 PM
Yeah this movie did bite however the 3rd was the worst, did you notice he slept with that girl yet he cannot be with lois and look in the 4th one he wears the evil superman suit when he flys with lois maybe it rebsents his sexuality. I wish they would of got married or lois found out he slept with her or somthing

Title: Superman IV
Post by: Darren Duncan on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
Regarding the comment by "Funk, E" about Metropolis being New York, that is not true.  Metropolis was actually based on Toronto in Ontario, Canada - where Superman's creator came from (more or less).  It isn't based on any US city.  That said, I agree that the Superman III and IV movies were rather poor when compared to I and II.

Title: Superman IV
Post by: Guess my name! on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
All I can say is that I'm only interested in those few choice scenes with Nuclear Man in them. Otherwise I just get so totally bored with the movie. I know! I'm crazy! I truly had a pre-pubescent crush on that guy. But what can I say? I just love guys who are tall, blond and musclebound.

Title: Superman IV
Post by: Josie on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
Another note about the location of Metropolis... the first and second Superman movies, at least (dunno 'bout the other two) were shot in Calgary, Canada... because they wanted a city nobody would recognize.  I bet that makes the Calgarians feel really special.

Title: Superman IV
Post by: Josie on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
While I'm here, did anybody else think Christopher Reeve looked oddly like Bruce Campbell in this movie?

Hey, does anybody else thing Bruce Campbell would make an <i>awesome</i> Superman?

Title: Superman IV
Post by: Mark on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
I liked it. Ultimate cheesy movie but funny to watch. Its kinda hard to dislike a film youve been watching since you were young and findin it on video made me wanna buy it and laugh at all the cheesy scenes including the fact that Nuclear Mans voice is dubbed "If You Do Not Tell Me I Will Hurt People!" and the fight on the moon and the tornado bit. Class! Out of 4 i give it a 3 (good)

Title: Superman IV
Post by: AlphaWoolf on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
I'm not going to try to defend this silly entry in the Superman series.  After the first great film, all the sequels sucked, some more, some less.  Out of the three sequels, this I find to be the most entertaining.  No. 2 p**sed all over the Superman mythos, No. 3 was a bizarre Richard Pryor vehicle, but this movie, No. 4 just says "to hell with everything, let's have some fun".  At the very least, this movie gives us a battle between super characters that the second movie only hinted at.  Good popcorn movie.

Title: Superman IV
Post by: Nuclear Man Groupie on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
I'm just wondering of it would freak too many people out of I said the only reason I watched ths movie was because I am infatuated with Nuclear Man. Other than that, it's just a movie full of cheesy, MST3K budget FX and a storyline that needed more refinement.

Title: Superman IV
Post by: Government Cheese on November 25, 2006, 04:09:03 PM
When I look for one truism in cinema, a movie like this decides to take a firm hold of my nads and rip them clean from their prune cradle. Gene Hackmen movies are supposed to be good dam it. Not that Gene Hackmen is dynamic or charming in any way but there’s something about his movies that seem to touch me.

While Superman III (oh sorry meant IV, getting my crap all mixed up) did touch me, it was a vile hepatitis C infested touch. The kind that leaves purple sores on the psyche that pop up around once a month (What you guys don’t think about Superman IV at least once a month, ah well, guess it’s a comic collector thing).

This movie came out in my early adolescence when my imagination had yet to be repressed by the fairer sex and the pursuit of another bottle of Drakkar Noir to entice the little phillies. Even with a full-on…imagination, I knew this movie was a bastardization of….movies.  

Title: Superman IV
Post by: Jim on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
Okay, the woman being able to breath in outer space was bad enough, but why hasn't anyone focused on this bit in them movie? Superman throws a ton of nuclear weapons directly into the sun. INTO THE SUN. Now I might not be a scientist, but in my book throwing explosives (or nucleary weaponry) into the sun is a bad idea. What the hell was he thinking?!

Title: Superman IV
Post by: MegaRed on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
It's funny..Out of all 4 Superman movies, this is my favorite one.

You can imagine, I get alot of wierd looks when I mention that.

Title: Superman IV
Post by: Jeff Weskamp on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
   This film was one of four big-budget fiascos that sank Cannon Films.  Menahem Goram and Yoram Globus released four movies in the summer of 1987 (known as Cannon's Summer of Blood): Superman IV, Lifeforce, Masters of the Universe, and Over the Top.  Each film failed to even earn back its production cost.  The Summer of Blood was the deathblow for Cannon, which decalred bankruptcy in 1989.
   The fatal error in this film for me was how Luther cloned Superman.  In a museum, a one-ton steel ball is hanging from a single strand of Superman's hair. So, Luther and his nephew CUT the hair with a PAIR OF SCISSORS!  Unless Luthor had a pair of kryptonite scissors, they couldn't have gotten that DNA sample to create Nuclear Man. That kinda ruined the rest of the film for me.
    I read that Cannon edited out about 50 minutes of footage after the pre-release showing.  That's why the middle of the film is so chaotic and hard to follow.

Title: Superman IV
Post by: night heron on June 26, 2004, 08:34:31 AM
This is the type of movie you wish they never made this was when they got into the antinucular blather days in hollywood and it just makes you wich for some kyopinite just to put a end to it all the first two however were good

Title: Superman IV
Post by: firebird on July 11, 2004, 01:28:50 PM
No wonder they quit making superman movies the first two were great and this one is the worst just like that other antinucular weapons movie AMAZING GRACE AND CHUCK  its a complety moronic bit of mindless nonsense we should have brought some kryptonite

Title: Superman IV
Post by: Nuclear Man on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
Superman looked old and awkward when faced with any actual physical movement in the fighting scenes; like some kind of Nordic schoolgirl whose bones grew far too quickly during puberty. Nuclear Man was a flaming transvestite born of Superman's hair and some unimaginably gay forces eminating from the sun. If i ever decide to commit suicide, it will be while i'm staring at Nuclear Man's mindless, gay, 80's face and mane on my television screen. I grew up on the first 3 Superman movies but the 4th on was the unending rape of my 'mind-gina'. In case you are hesitant about hating this movie, let me leave you with this thought: Nuclear Man wore scandalous gold nail extensions and he used them to ... "infect" ... Superman...(Hm-MM!)... from behind...he had a matching gold mullet. that's all.

Title: Superman IV
Post by: phoenix on October 11, 2004, 01:55:11 PM
Well it was the last and by far the worse of these movies i mean after the first two movies made big money in the box office they made this idiotic mess maybe the salkins should sent into the phatom zone along with a few other hollywood socialists

Title: Superman IV
Post by: Richard on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
I like imaginative low budget films.  Unfortunately, this is not one of them.  For starters, after the success of the first 3, 2 was my favorite, there is no reason they couldn't afford better effects, better background, etc.  In the second one, when that evil woman in space poked a whole in the astronaught's suit, he suffocated.  So the writers of Superman do know there is no oxygen in space.  Why then was that rich lady flown into space with Nuclear Man, and she was not affected by the lack of oxygen?  Just don't make no sense.  Even so, I don't think the message about Nukes was so bad.  Superman didn't force the nations to disarm.  He simply convinced them that he would see to it personally if they all agreed.  I don't think that is dictatorial.

Title: Superman IV
Post by: Sam on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
Superman IV : The Quest For Peace is the most dumbest Superman I've ever seen! The visuals are so fake! If it was made in 1987, the technology should have been a bit more advanced. I hate the fact that I bought this dvd in BlockBuster! The story line was so weak! The villian was incredibly stupid! I hate the part were Superman save the people from the Statue of Liberty. Also the part where he fixes the Great Wall of China. I'll give this movie one thing, it still had some good acting! I don't recommend that you will like this movie.  

Title: Superman IV
Post by: on November 25, 2006, 04:09:03 PM
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Title: Superman IV
Post by: Hawkeye Pierce on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
This movie should have been a piece of crap, but it has Christopher Reeve (RIP) a dumb villian and all kind of cool things that you thought could only exist in the dark dark world of Al Adamson!

Once again a succesfull Superman film!

Oh, by the way!

Title: Superman IV
Post by: George on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
 To Jeff W.- "Lifeforce" came out in the summer of 1985, not 1987; also, "Over The Top" came out in Feb. 1987. Just thought you'd like to know. For some reason, I can remember when movies came out. As for the movie that is the main topic of this page, it did suck. So did "S3". "S3" was boring, absurd and convoluted. Its only selling point was Richard Pryor, unfortunately, he can only do so much in a PG rated flick aimed at younger audiences. "S4" was stupid, it made little sense, the SPFX were LAME and Jon Cryer was totally annoying. Even the return of Gene Hackman didn't help this cinematic turd! Oddly, I kept thinking about "S4" while watching "Elektra", another boring and stupid superhero movie.

Title: Superman IV
Post by: Hank on February 22, 2006, 02:15:50 PM
Liu Kang: I totally disagree. I totally think Superman IV sucked donkey bars. Totally.

Title: Superman IV
Post by: Bob the mutant chicken on March 06, 2006, 05:18:58 PM
They should of stopped after  the horrible SUPERMAN 3.A very  terrible and badly directed mess.

Title: Superman IV
Post by: Anne on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
My personal favourites of the Superman movies series are Superman1&2. I didn't like Superman3 at all, since they focused too much on Richard Pryor,in that film. I have Superman1,2&4 on DVD. Superman3 on VHS. Superman4 is certainly not the best in the Superman series, but it's still watchable on DVD. Maybe, they might find a directors cut for Superman4, like they did with Supergirl the Movie. That would help fill in the plot holes. Christopher Reeve & Margot Kidder made Superman4 watchable. It's fun watching it on a lazy day.

Title: Superman IV
Post by: Zack on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
You know I love superman...i love him like crazy.  he's my favorite superhero.  I have a tatoo of him on my right bicep.

but all that love could do nothing for this affront to everything that is the man of steel.  Yes, folks, even more abysmal than the huge celophane S supes ensnares Zd with in 2, Worse than any combination of words to come out of Jimmy's mouth, and yes, even more cringeworthy than the presence of Richard Pryor (though not by much), I put to you that there is a horror more a maddening than all combined...

and that horror is...Lenny Luthor

Look at him, just look at him...sure nuclear man's little pants are terrifying, and it's a race to see which of Morgot Kidder or Muriel Hemmingway's faces' were more jagged and mummified, and yes, the great wall of china repair ray...I grant that these are agents one and all of the coming darkness, but on the black throne, above the twisting remains of the forsaken sits a devil named "Lenny"

Title: Superman IV
Post by: St. David on November 25, 2006, 04:09:03 PM
Superman the Movie was the best of the four, and each sequel was a poorer effort. Hooray for the cast and crew that made the first of the four.

The Superman legend deserved a much better effort that Superman IV.  

Title: Re: Superman IV
Post by: giant Claw Jr on March 17, 2007, 07:39:26 PM
This was the last SUPERMAN movie made by chris reeves and by far the worse after those first two were so great

Title: Re: Superman IV
Post by: BlackAngel75 on April 10, 2007, 02:24:10 AM
Maybe if there were ever a chance to do a remake (not a do over) of both 3 and 4 before Superman Returns and make it better.  But that would have been in a perfect world, which this in not.  But look at both track records of  Superman and Batman.  The first movies of Supes and Bats.  Both were groundbreaking, both had enigmatic villains.  The second of the two, both had more than one villain to fight (although Batman's were more well known and Superman had more action).  In three, both had nutballs (sorry Pry or) which, more or less, lost points and the whole fighting a death tower.  And the last one for both was just plain sh*t.  Bane dumb as mud, the strings (God, the strings).  At that time, it got me thinking: maybe the same person or people who was a consultant for the Superman franchise is the same person or are the same people who put the Batman on that same route.  And if it was true, then yon gods damn ye back to the hell for whence ye came.

Title: Re: Superman IV
Post by: Torgo on November 17, 2008, 09:13:34 PM
Supergirl vs. Nuclear Man.

Title: Re: Superman IV
Post by: Dan Factor on March 17, 2009, 08:40:45 AM
I remember seeing this at the cinema. I was eight and thought it was brilliant just cos it was about Superman.
As I got older and I realised what a huge chunk of horse's crap it was!

This was Christopher Reave's big message to the world about the evils of nuclear arms. Even he said it was a pile of rubbish.

Title: Re: Superman IV
Post by: Doggett on March 17, 2009, 11:55:00 AM
Supergirl vs. Nuclear Man.

No longer available  :bluesad:


Title: Re: Superman IV
Post by: Flu-Bird on January 27, 2010, 02:13:37 AM
This dumb movie was made at the time of all those stupid NUCULAR WEAPONS FREE ZONES wa supported by the usial bunch of liberal wussietards in hollyweed along with AMAZING GRACE AND CHUCK some of those worse of the worse peices of crap along with THE DOG WHO STAPPED A WAR total junk