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Title: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: Ryan on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
Mostly an enjoyable review, but I would like to point out one glaring error. When Call is plugged into the ship, she finds that she can't redirect the ship for some reason, so she programs it to crash. Not the best solution, you would think, but it isn't what the ship was originally programmed to do.


Title: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: Wendy Kroy on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
Stupid useless trivia:

Danny Boyle (who directed Trainspotting) was supposed to direct this but dropped out fairly late in pre-production. He got cold feet over the idea of dealing with the special effects (CGI in particular). So Fox hired French director Jean-Pierre Jeunet, who made Delicatessen and The City of Lost Children. Seemed like a cool idea, but then the movie came out and made many an audience member (not too mention a lot of film geeks) go "Why?". Then he went back to France and made Amelie, which in addition to being a huge hit over there, did more for him in this country (both critically and in the box-office)than Alien:Resurrection did. BTW, Amelie's a really cool movie for those who haven't seen it; give it a try.  


Title: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: spike spiegul on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
Watching people doing stupid things especially pro killers
get killed before i leave the bebob to fight vicious one last time i watch this can of crap
hear is why i hate it
1 it is not a John Woo shootout scene with soldiers
2 it is not a survival movie like the first one
3 the military is a group of jackoffs that have no tactics
4 cool aliens with lame gore(the thing 82 versions had cool creature with extra gore than needed)
5 What happened to predators? they could use those type of weapons instead of freaky aliens with two mouths
Anyway i wish they made a aliens vs predator movie in the future with high tech weapons!
as in the words of andy
"SEE YOU SPACE COWBOY"


Title: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: Scaarge on October 07, 2002, 02:48:32 PM
I thought the review captured the sheer uselessness of this film.  One of my few memories of this was the scene where three of the pirates were sitting around getting drunk (boy, could I relate!)and Call suddenly appears wearing boxing gloves.  What the heck??


Title: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: Max Levin on March 17, 2003, 05:03:17 AM
I agree with this review wholeheartedly, this s**t should never have been produced. Anyone know how much Sigourney got for this?


Title: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: Max Gardner on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
I actually enjoyed this film for a number of reasons.  Number one, the involvement of a number of folks from Delicatessen and City of Lost Children (including Dominique Pinion), though Alien: Resurrection certainly isn't the arthouse fare either of Jeunet's previous films (with Marc Caro) were.  Second, I think Ron Perlman is a great actor, and it was brilliant when he did his gorilla impression and tossed his knife into Vriess' leg.  The man is so gorilla-like in appearance to begin with I was wondering when someone would exploit that.  And third, it's just a lot of fun to look at, up until the last fifteen or twenty minutes.  The writing here isn't nearly en par with Whedon's scripts for Toy Story or the Buffy the Vampire Slayer TV series, but it's adequate in most respects.  Regarding the rest of the series: I like the first film, but I find it's overrated (hunkers down and prepares for beatings).  The series reached its high point with Aliens (it's a shame to see Cameron stoop to crap like The Abyss and Titanic after his magnum opus).  The third film would have been much better off had they gone with William Gibson's original, completely different script.  And Resurrection was hardly a great film, but it was visually unique, had a decent sense of humor and featured some of my favorite B-actors, such as Perlman and Brad Dourif.


Title: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: Andrew Stephens on November 25, 2006, 04:09:03 PM
Such a shame: Alien Resurrection had pretty much a dream team of writer and director and probably looked like a really cool idea on paper, but the review is absolutly correct in pointing out the movies glaring flaws.
However I have to admit that I actually enjoyed the first three quarters of the movie. Its pretty different from the rest of the series, but not without its own B-movie charm (underwater Aliens - hooray!).
The last bit with the Alien sprog is terrible, what were they thinking?


Title: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: Steven Millan on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
      Along with "Alien 3",this is another heavily disappointing post-"Aliens" sequel,with Josh Whedon's tedious script not only ripping off "Aliens",but badly wasting Jean Pierre Jeunet("Delicatessen","City of Lost Children")'s grand filmmaking style,as well.  
      The next time,the studio needs to have the Aliens drop down to invade a futuristic Earth,with Ripley leading the fight against them(and not returning "Resurrection"'s characters,maybe except for Ron Perlman,whose mere presence lightens up any film he's in),instead of another predictable rehash of the first two superior movies.


Title: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: Dark Wizard on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
Ugh.  That's all I have to say about this movie.  You're review is 100% right on.
I remember my Dad taking me to see this when it came out a few years ago.  And guess what?  We both hated it!  How's that for a father-son bonding experience? :P  
The script was weak.  The science was laughable.  The acting was mediocre at best.  And how could they turn such a badass character like the Queen Alien into such a pansy, throw-away plot device?  Especially when the plot device in question (the human/Alien monster baby) was just plain unnecessary?
Spike Spiegul asked about an Aliens vs. Predator movie.  From what I hear, Fox was actually considering making such a movie but decided to go with this instead.  That about as much as I know about it, though.  Anyone else got more info?


Title: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: Max Gardner on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
The last time I heard anything about an Aliens vs. Predator movie was when I read the script back in high school, which makes it...about 1996? Dark Horse was much more involved in the movie industry back then.  I haven't heard anything since, and don't particularly expect to.  A new Predator movie - now that might be interesting.


Title: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: Matt McIrvin on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
I read an interview with Whedon a while back in which he blamed the general badness of this movie on Jeunet.  As this review reveals, there are serious story problems here that probably can't be blamed on the director (though, as others have said many times, what you see on the screen often bares little resemblance to the original screenplay).

As it happens, I like both much of Whedon's other work and much of Jeunet's, but one thing I've noticed watching Whedon's "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" is that whenever the show veers into the realm of science fiction, it develops serious logical problems.  Better to stick to demonology, where it doesn't matter so much.

These days Whedon is working on a science-fiction show, "Firefly."  I haven't tried watching it, though... the premise sounds like "Blake's 7" with wisecracks.


Title: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: Phantom 187 on October 13, 2002, 12:38:01 AM
The movie is actually pretty well written and done for the most part.


Title: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: Dick on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
Reveiw: Aliens is my fav movie and this film both sucks and blows.

Point of Interest: This film was dissed in an episode of 'Angel' a tv show created by Joss Wheadon. see imdb.com


Title: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: Riff on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
This movie was bad, but definatly not a skull. It didn't live upto the original three (Ailen, Ailens, and Ailen 3), but it had it's qualities. I really liked the first three, but not this one as much, they just fell through.

Ailen - 4 Slime
Ailens - 5 Slime
Ailen 3 - 3 Slime
Resurrection - 1 1/2 Slimes (can I do one and a half?)


Title: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: Ernst Bitterman on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
I was going to suggest the spotlight of blame be aimed at the director (yes, I instinctively mistrust the French), bur having read what else he's been connected with, I've amended myself.  I would suggest that the creative team of writer and director of this movie had some serious chemistry-- this is usually a good thing, but remember that "chemistry" also describes the effect of a brick of sodium in a bathtub (try it...).  Having watched most of the available episodes of Firefly, Whedon doesn't screw with the science too much; we can allow hyperdrive and fake gravity, and there's actually no WOOSH noise when a ship goes past.  It's hard to figure how he could make the mistakes that appear in the final scene (that's one teeny hole in the window) without some kind of interference.  Maybe we should be looking for the producer(s) with our torches and pitchforks?


Title: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: Shining Force on February 07, 2003, 06:45:58 PM
ehhrr... well, I seriously think that this is the best part of the whole series.


Title: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: Trollificus on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
This was obviously a Frankenstein creation about as succesful as 'skunkappotomus'. The talent was there but I have to agree with ernst: this was not good chemistry, for whatever reason.

Sometimes successful writers or directors get away with taking audacious risks that result in great achievements. Other times, people let them do things that just suck. In this movie, it was the latter. (SF, you are just soooo wrong on this one.)

But I don't think it was any worse than Aliens 3, the prison one. Damn, I've crapped more colorful product than that movie. At least Alien Resurrection had some entertaining moments. At least crap provides some satisfaction, and you get to flush it. Aliens 3 was just an unpleasant waste of time. And not a GOOD 'unpleasant waste of time'.


Title: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: octo on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
yep i agree with the review-horay... y? because i went online searching for other reviews that echoed my thoughts BUT to my dismay they never really pointed out the flaws that this review did.

Alien-top movie, kinda horror in a tight space, on a big fu*king ship where only a handful of crew inhibit...

aliens- testosterone to the max... lots of action, cool weapons and hardass top marines (like hicks/hudson/vasquez) and it doesn't lose the essence why aliens are bad news. Oh and it also gives us a better insight into the alien (hive) nature.

alien3- boring, very boring, coupled with actors that could have done much better, weak storyline that doesn't try to develop any other characters. Newt/hicks/bishop dies before the movie started (all of ripleys efforts are lost!), best part was when she dies in the pool of lava holding the alien b***h.

alien Res- well a few comments...
1) its debatable as to which was worse 3 or 4 and i say both r crap... some good bits from both BUT they're crapness overshadows them.
2)I think they relied too much on the humour side of it all... i mean one or two punch lines would have been ok (of course totally hilarious would make u think it was a comedy but kinda darkish type-if there was such a thing)
I never liked the funny side of things to a would be serious movie... i remember in the cinema everyone laughed when the general awoke from the bed with bodily hair like a monkey.
3) Everyone was more or less s**te except for weaver, the worse being winona (man never really liked her anyhow, I think if they chose better actors it would redeem the movie... slightly BUT who would go for it??? the movie was such a bag of pants!
4) remember real bishop? well it looked like he had the technology and knowledge to do the cloning at the time of the 3rd movie... what i'm trying to say is that, make a movie time-lined 200 yr later?? u'd expect the sophistication of technology and weapons would be far suprior compared to the times of aliens/alien3 but it isn't or at least it doesn't seem like 200 yrs worth of technology, its just utter s**te! in my opinion bring back bishop experimenting on ripley in the not too distant future, lets say 6-8 yrs from alien3 would have been better, coz then u'll have a mad scientist developing aliens to SELL to anyone to highest bidder...
5)under water aliens scene was ok... i think that i still prefer those dark looking aliens than to see some new evoled alien species.

ok lastly... for all alien fans, i think I would prefer to recognise only the first 2 movies as the alien trilogy and prefer to dump the last 2. It would have been ok to redeem the trilogy after alien3 by making alien 4 where she wakes up straped to a medical bed and a geek is exerimenting her .. or whatever (only an idea) - but then again my english teacher of old told me never to begin or end a story as if it was a dream... look what they did to wizard of oz... it did ok didn't it??? lol contradicting myself.

alien 5 i suppose is probably not going to thrill me, the last alien movie didn't really leave much to ponder on. If an alien survived then oh s**t earth is doomed and no matter how perfect ripley is nothing can be done UNLESS they make it where they have to bring in the entire marines (horay :D) back again to secure vital areas of earth, then we'll have guns and stuff.
IF there were no surviving aliens then 'oh happy days... happy days', no more aliens (good because they can't make the franchise any crapper. Bad because... NO MORE ALIENS)
oh and i like ripley in alien/aliens- i think it just makes her more human and we can somehow relate to her feelings, whereas new super ripley just makes her out to be somekind or marvel super heroine..

alien vs predator does sound good... and it would spark of the question of 'which species is better?', don't ask me which one is better, still deciding.

aiiiieeeeeeee my brain is hurting... laterz



Title: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: James Perry on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
I love it when there are movies almost everybody but me hates.  The last 2 Alien films are in this catagory.  I thought the 3rd was somewhat suspenseful and had some very good acting all around.  It nowhere near matched the instant classic of the first 2 but it was still a good time in my opinion.  Resurrection looks great.  I would pay $8 and buy popcorn to watch Winona Ryder wallow in dog excrement.  She's freakin' cute here!  Not quite Mermaids cute or Great Balls of Fire cute...but cute enough for me to buy the whole DVD set.  I'm also forgiving for the director who did a great just with SFX and production design.  This would be an A picture if they'd stuck with the weirdo storyline from the beginning with the scientists.  Instead it turns into a sort of run-from-the-creature feature.  When I first saw it I loved it...and still do.  Weaver is a little too freaky here, however.  I was glad she did Galaxy Quest to kind of prove she could still play the sexy female role like she did in the original Alien and Ghostbusters.  

Anyway, I'm in the minority when I say I like this film.  Visually striking in almost every scene.  I can't wait for Alien 5!!  Terminator 3 happened...time for Alien 5.


Title: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: James Perry on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
One more thought...wouldn't a Dawn of the Dead type Alien film be great?  Aliens instead of zombies?


Title: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: Chrisb on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
When Elgyn seperates from the group to investigate the strange noises, I was reminded of the scene in 'What Waits Below' (reviewed by Andrew) where Santos lets his curioisity get the better of him and as a result gets bitten by a monster. I'm aware of the 'man-wanders-off- and-gets-et' genre cliche, but there's such a similarity that I wonder if one was an influence on the other.

It's when this happens in a film that you wonder if the writer himself wasn't distracted by something and consequently failed to come up with a decent ending.


Title: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: pred19 on November 25, 2006, 04:09:49 PM
This is one of those movies that makes you hate Hollywood. The 'Alien' series ended on a great (albeit very down-beat) note, very tragic and fulfilling... and then in mosies A:R, a horrible new chapter to revive the franchise. It was bad in so many ways- RUINING the series, adding plenty of dreary characters and the utterly craptastic Newborn idea. The music really got under my skin too, for some unknown reason, and bothered me the whole way through. There was never a suspenseful moment, or even a single one where you sympathize with any of the characters. The Aliens were well done, but shown in the light way too much (in addition to the CGI, ugh).

The thing that really burned me, though, was the Christy (is that the name?) death sequence. The Alien launches itself out of the water, stays in place on the ladder, swaying, doing nothing. It was retarded- that Alien would rushed up the ladder and torn both of them apart, but No-oo. In a completely unrealistic moment, Christy gets shot in the face with acid... and practically nothing happens. That big gorilla moron flips back on the ladder and shoots like a dips**t, and then nails a spider in a web. It was the tackiest, stupidest, most insulting, most damaging scene in any science fiction film EVER!

DO NOT SEE THIS MOVIE!


Title: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: Bullfrog on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
I actually watched this file in the cinema when it first came out years ago and again for the second time just last night.  I agree with the review.  Of all the Alien movies, this one reeks.  One thing I will point out in the review that is not quite accurate: the science vessel was not programmed to crash into earth initially, only return there.  Ripley made Call redirect "Father" (the ship's computer) to crash the ship as they had used to much energy in the rapid (3 hour) return to actually blow the ship up.  Must have had some sort of super-hyper-ultra drive to get back from "unregulated" space to Earth sub 3 hours...

<rolls eyes>


Title: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: Samzilla on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
Aaaw c'mon. Its an Alien movie. Why the hell did you give it a skull? At the least it deserved two blobs. By giving it a skull you are stating that this film is worse than the "howling" movies and "up from the depths"


Title: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: on November 25, 2006, 04:09:03 PM
What do you get when you cross the co-director of Delicatessen and the Alien franchise. You should get a unique cinematic experience but instead you get this junk. The makers of Alien Resurection could have made art, but instead rely on formula for profit.
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Title: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: Dave Munger on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
They should have left Ripley dead and brought back Newt. The movies aren't called "Ripley", why can't someone else fight the Aliens? I may have mentioned this before, but at the end of #2, when they're going into coldsleep, Newt asks, "Will we dream?" I say that means the next two movies were nightmares Newt had in coldsleep. Either way, they could have said that her pod was ejected and picked up by pirates or something, and she grew up to be a mighty Alien slayer. I do like the idea of having space pirates, it seems consistent with the way the future is in these movies.


Title: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: on September 26, 2004, 06:59:09 AM
Alien Resurrection is just weird, the first two films are the best but when they got to making this movie the plot had just gone weird, there was clones of ripley, weird deformed bodies, ripley actually being related to the aliens, a creature that is half alien-half human. I didnt even think very much of Alien 3 but this film is by far the weakest of the series, compared to the first classic movie it was a failure. This film is also very unrealistic in some ways too particularly in the underwater sequence, were supposed to believe that they can scream and fight underwater for that long? i doubt they could, especially when most of them are also carry big looking guns and one guy is even swiming with the weight of another guy on his back.


Title: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: Bustello on November 25, 2006, 04:09:03 PM
I hate this movie!
They spoiled a great character as Ripley. How can they give her alien capabilities when she said that she hates aliens??? What a contradiction...


Title: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: Karen on November 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
I don't know, I thought the following lines were not bad:

Space Pirate:   "Ripley, I thought you were dead!"

Repley:         "Yeah, I get that a lot."


Title: Re: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: asimpson2006 on December 01, 2007, 11:20:14 PM
I enjoyed it when I saw in theaters.  Haven't seen it since then, will probably watch it soon. 


Title: Re: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: Ethan on July 01, 2010, 11:13:08 AM
Resurrection was terrible, almost a B movie. It was far worse than the third one, which itself was far from respectable.

Someone did make a good point about the aliens looking good underwater, which I would definitely have to agree with.
I think what really ruined this one for me was the dialogue: it wasn't just bad, but in fact so terrible as to be jarring enough on more than one occasion that I was reminded that I was watching a movie, breaking the suspended disbelief that makes a film really entertaining.

Resurrection was an Epic Fail in my book.


Title: Re: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: Chandler on July 07, 2010, 02:28:57 PM
i dont see why this movie is hated so much! the actn wasnt very good but the aliens were godd in it and if u notice, the weird alien baby is in the first alien movie where they find it on the planet


Title: Re: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: 4toddword on March 02, 2011, 02:33:32 AM
 :tongueout: Why do people think this movie is not good.......
Um, it is terrible. This is one misfire that Juenet cannot live down. He made a comic book movie where the three preceding it had taken the subject matter as realistically as could be expected.
Gory when there should have been restraint, humor that was not funny,and a premise that asked the audience to be completely stupid. It brought what was close to becoming cliche all the way across the threshold.  The actors,ordinarily,were fine. But somehow this film made all of them into buffoons,and none of them deserved it. Sigourney Weaver is a solid character actress,but she painted herself
into a corner here;the scene where she finds her 7 counterparts,and proceeds to weep while incinerating them,was out of character for the film,and embarrassing. Winona Ryder was miscast in her role,and never once conveyed the conviction necessary for the part. Ron Perlman is almost always reliable,but here he is reduced to a misogynistic prick without the brains the Creator gave a goat.
   Dan Hedeya was fine as the idiot ex-husband on "Cheers",but displayed the same exact character here,sitcom twitches and all. Michael Wincott's subtle and nasty purr of a villainous voice was wasted here ,reduced to simplistic come-ons and useless insinuations.
    The story is shoddy,the pacing clunky, and the rest of the cast reduced to stock nonsense. I will not begin to approach the third act,as it is absurd beyond belief,full of bad special effects and
worse(and more woefully contrived) situations. Best forgotten,I wish I could have excluded it from the anthology that I purchased on blu-ray. I'll watch "Micmacs",instead,and hope for better."Amelie" sure was.


Title: Re: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: claws on March 02, 2011, 02:39:22 AM
After the rather dull Alien 3 I lost all hope for the Alien franchise. Alien: Resurrection made me a believer again.


Title: Re: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: monster93 on October 13, 2011, 10:55:40 AM
I loved this movie, I mean it was gory and with grotesque images, probably it wasn't as good as the first two movies, but I think this was pretty good even compared to many other saga's fourth part you know like "Jaws: The Revenge". :thumbup:


Title: Re: Alien: Resurrection
Post by: monster93 on December 24, 2011, 05:56:07 PM
This movie amazes me, is just wonderful. The horror is so beautifully presented The gore and everything made it perfect Also enjoy it and Alien is the best saga ever.