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 I just came home from seeing GRINDHOUSE, and it was what i expected it woud be. Planet Terror was the coolest thing Ive seen in theaters EVER, and Death Proof was less than satisfying. Planet Terror is filled to the brim with gore , humor, and ......more gore.......and more humor, while Death Proof had me sitting thru almost 75 miniutes of drunk girls going on and on about their ex boyfriends and the like. There was also something else I really didnt like about Death Proof, but I dont want to ruin it for anyone. I dont want to go on talking about this movie and acidentaly give something away, so I'll stop typing. Ill start writing a review for it tommorow, Now im gonna go to bed. Goodnight everybody!

-KYGOTC



(ps. the fake trailers in this movie are phonominal! I think it would be cool if maybe theyd make a sequel using those) 

Death Proof actually looks more interesting to me, though I'm not a fan of Robert Rodriguez nor Quentin Tarantino.  Just from the trailers, it looks like Planet Terror is a knowingly bad movie while Death Proof is played straight, though the trailers may be misleading.  I have an idea of what you don't want to spoil about Death Proof and, if it is what I think it is, it sounds like a lousy idea to me, too.

I'll probably go see this tonight.

I SAW IT YESTERDAY TO! AMAZING!

Yea, after you see it tell me if it ended up being what you thought it was and if it was disipointing.

The trailers look great I cant wait to see it. I want that car.
the only part that sounds bad is "sitting thru almost 75 miniutes of drunk girls going on and on about their ex boyfriends"
(http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/5739/quentintarantinopresentnu3.jpg)

Well, mabe I exagerated a bit. I estimate that DEATH PROOF is about 75 minuetes long, and, I kid you not, over half of that consists of the girl's mindless droning. But i did like the Stuntman Mike charecter...

I saw this today and here are my thoughts.

PLANET TERROR - Great mix of action, humor, gore, sex . . . just about everything.  Highly entertaining.  I loved the scratchy, jumpy picture effects to make it look like a damaged print of a 1970s film.

The various mock trailers were also great.  I loved the one for MACHETE and the trailer for DON'T was hilarious.

DEATH PROOF - It seems like Tarantino slightly missed the boat here.  PLANET TERROR was a great spoof of grindhouse flicks, but DEATH PROOF was more like a slick, modern Tarantino film.  It wasn't nearly as gritty as PLANET TERROR and it took too long to get to the fun.  But I must say that the car chase scenes were very well done.

Overall, this is 3+ hours of over-the-top entertainment that is definitely worth the price of admission.

Check out this video review of Grindhouse:

http://bventertainment.go.com/tv/buenavista/ebertandroeper/

Saw this on friday...IT WAS INCREDIBLE! Planet Terror was AWESOME.....Death Proof was really good too...I do agree with it being incredibly slow at the beginning, but I loved the end. Historically, the second film in a double feature is never as good as the first, and are usually created for no other reason than to get audiences to shell out more money (there were A movies, which were followed by B movies, which is where the term B-film orginates).

I think this thread should probablly be in the "Good Movies" section. Even though the movies are portrayed as B-movies they most certainly aren't. I think I heard the budget for both films was approx. 55 million dollars. Now we all know part of the reason a lot of those movies we love looked so bad and half-realized, was because they simply couldnt afford to achieve their directors visions. In this case Tarantino and Rodriguez spend a boat load of money to emulate having no money...kinda weird. What this all equates to is...A great movie experience. Planet Terror is so insanely cool in all aspects. Death Proof is pretty good, but was bogged down by all the female dialogue filled with "normal" minutia. Rest assured, it will not disapoint.

I saw Grindhouse on Thursday at a late showing which was the first at 10:00 where I took a survey to see what I liked about the film. I pretty much agree with Burgo. Death Proof I felt was Tarantino trying to make a new Grindhouse flick using his style. Critics are praising his dialogue but I really wanted Jungle Julia dead as she was annoying me. Kurt did have some great lines.

It should stay in Bad movies, as it defiinitely appeals mostly to the demographic

Rotten Tomatoes has a new feature, Grindhouse A-Z, which goes through the top-rated grindhouse-style movies that inspired the film. Very interesting stuff, including some movies I have seen, and even some reviewed on this site, and movies I now want (and have) to see (There is actually a movie called "Ilsa, she wolf of the SS"!).


http://www.rottentomatoes.com/features/special/2007/grindhouse/?feature=2

Fausto:

ILSA: SHE WOLF OF THE S.S. is available on DVD.  I bought the boxed set, which includes :

* ILSA: SHE WOLF OF THE S.S.
* ILSA THE WICKED WARDEN
* ILSA: HAREM KEEPER OF THE OIL SHEIKS

However, it does not include ILSA: TIGRESS OF SIBERIA

Saw GRINDHOUSE Saturday evening at the 6:45 viewing and only 10 people showed up. Enjoyed PLANET TERROR and all the intermission/trailer stuff. DEATH PROOF had a couple good parts that also had me totally confused as to how it all fit together. There seemed to be 2 totally different films in DEATH PROOF with both of them starring Kurt Russell and his car. His role was good, but the whole girl dialogue was the worst. The car scenes must take up only 15 minutes of the whole film. The only thing the car scenes did was give the viewer an appreciation for the two cars involved. Six of the ten people in the theater walked out during DEATH PROOF. No kidding.

GRINDHOUSE (8 out of 10 Stars) - It was  neat getting to see 2 films and fake trailers Tarantino/Rodriquez style. Overall a great film event worth the price of admission.

PLANET TERROR (8 out of 10 Stars) - The female character Cherry was the best and the whole film was exceptionally bloody and funny.

DEATH PROOF (6 out of 10 Stars) - Kurt Russell was good. Female dialogue was bad.

I agree with alot of the people on here. DEATH PROOF didnt seem much different that any of his other movies. It might as well have been KILL BILL or PULP FICTION in it's place. Did NOT seem like an exploitation film at all. I actually found myself banging the back of my head against my chair durring all the girl talk parts, which were PONTLESS by the way. They didnt seem to go anywhere. HUGE dissipointment. But PLANET TERROR alone was well worth the admission fee. The trailers and vintage warning signals were great too.




And did anyone else notice that DEATH PROOF had a loose end? Whatever happened to that girl that they left with the guy who owned the car?

I, too, Saw Grindhouse on Friday.  Sad as it may seem, when I go to pick up the DVD, I'll probably be telling everyone that I "picked up Planet Terror."

Planet Terror- One of the best new splatter films I've seen in a long time.  Absolutely ridiculous, over the top, and lots of fun. 

Death Proof- Well uh... There's a lot of dialogue!  Okay, so Kurt Russell was awesome, but there was so much downtime that didn't feel plot-important that I almost yelled in the theater, "What the f**k is this movie even about?"  I could actually sense the small crowd in the theater getting bored quickly.  I will say that I did like the movie all in all, but not in the sense that I liked Planet Terror.  I guess long dialogue is better than padding out the movie with pointless stock footage, a la Hell of the Living Dead or The Prey (1983).

Scott, in Death Proof i see what your saying it was almost if a slew of scenes were dropped out, but not intentionally like we had already seen in planet terror before hand and earlier in this one. it just wasnt there.....


SPOILERS!!!!



when kurts in the hospital (SIDE NOTE: im guessing the guy with the cowboy hat was his father and dakota from planet terror was his sister and it was the same hospital from planet terror and we see dakota show her distaste for her father and talks to him like she was kurts sister and his daughter, that was kinda cool. ) right after that scene it goes right into another group of girls and kurts antics. theres no scenes where he gets out of the hospital or getting a new car(or fixing it up) or anything.

Scott:

Those fake trailers were directed by Rob Zombie, Eli Roth, and I forget who else.  I really enjoyed them.  And the ad for the Mexican restaurant was just like the low-budget ads they used to show at drive-ins for local businesses.  Ah, the memories . . .

I also enjoyed the continuity errors.  The one that made me chuckle out loud was in DEATH PROOF when Kurt Russell is at the bar.  From one angle, he has a napkin in his hands, from the next angle, he is drinking water, then it switches back to the first angle and he has the napkin in his hands again. 

I saw Grindhouse this past Thursday night and I really enjoyed it.  As many folks have said, Death Proof starts really slow.  *SPOILER SPOILER*  There was NO NEED to develop the first group of girls for so long, and I never cared about them one bit.  Their gruesome death scene was cool, though.  After that it's mostly good, minus a couple of more boring scenes of dialogue.

Oh, and Edgar Wright directed the trailer for Don't.  There's talks of making it into a feature, and Robert Rodriguez has pretty much confirmed that he's going to make Machete into a feature.

I'd like to see a Grindhouse 2 but Grindhouse didn't do to great at the box office this past weekend.  It made around $11 million.  I think it'll get steady business, though.

Oh, and I found this amusing: at the theater where I work someone complained about the "missing reel" in Planet Terror.

I noticed one of these too. When tne "butterfly" girl is out side smoking a joint, the shot cuts, and shes smoking a cigerette. I wouldnt call it "amusing", and it definately didnt make up for the over bordom I experienced.

Thank You-as god is my witness, I will see all 3 movies before I die! (hopefully netflix carries them).

Here's how I would rate Grindhouse as a whole:   ***1/2 out of ****.

and here's how I rate the individual segments:

Planet Terror   ***
Death Proof    ***1/2

Machete   (fake trailer)  ***1/2
Werewolf Women of the S.S.  (fake trailer) ***
Don't      (fake trailer)  **** 
Thanksgiving   (fake trailer) ***1/2         

Just got back from seeing Grindhouse and all I can say is Awesome! Awesome! Awesome!   :smile:

Both films more than exceeded my expectations.
I liked both but I have to say that I liked Death Proof the best.  It totally had that 70's feel to it.
Planet Terror was also great.  Tons of disgusting bloody gore and damn...Rose McGowan has never looked sexier!
One thing I noticed.  Planet Terror definitely had the feel of a John Carpenter movie. 
Anyone else notice that?

The extra dialogue in Death Proof that a lot of people have complained about actually made it better in my opinion.
The car chase scene at the end was f**king spectacular!

The faux trailers were great.
I especially liked the Thanksgiving trailer.
It has one of the best taglines ever...
"White meat, dark meat...All will be carved!"

Watch them now!

WARNING!  THESE TRAILERS ARE NOT SAFE FOR WORK!

Thanksgiving trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbSKnL4WFJM

Machete trailer:
"They just f**ked with the wrong Mexican!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9xFkdfjL1c

Don't trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka83i_e_v8M


!!Slight Spoiler!!

Seeing Kurt Russel cry like a b***h after those girls stick it to him was worth the price of admission alone.
Especially when they beat the living daylights out of him and the end credit pops up out of nowhere.
Fantastic!   :teddyr:

!!End Spoiler!!


I am so going to buy this on DVD when it comes out.
If I were you, I wouldn't wait to see this on DVD. 
Go out right now and see it the way it was meant to be seen...in the theater!

I rate Planet Terror 3.5 out of 4 stars.   :thumbup:
And I gave Death Proof 4 out of 4 stars.   :thumbup:

The entire theater cheered and clapped at the last shot of Death Proof.

I've only been to a handful of movies in my lifetime (so far) in which that has taken place.

Saw it Friday, loved both movies (even though Death Proof made you earn the best parts, they were some pretty f'ing good parts!), loved the trailers, wanted to nuke most of the US when I found out it was outsold by Are We Done Yet? for the weekend. Let's hope word of mouth (or message board posts as it may be) make for better box office on this and the following weekends.

You check out my full review(s) for the movie at www.tombofanubis.com if interested.

By the way...
What was Stuntman Mike's hood ornament on his car?

I couldn't quite make it out each time they showed it.
My friend said it was a duck.
Was it?

Yes, the hood ornament was indeed a chrome duck. It's Tarantino's homage to the movie Convoy, from which the hood ornament was directly taken.

Thank my mother-in-law for that one, as I've tried my best to not watch Convoy...

"We got a great big coooonvooooy, rockin' through the niiiiiiight. We got a great big coooonvoooooy, ain't she a beautiful siiiiiight? Cooooonvoooooy!"

I just saw GRINDHOUSE last night as well.

I enjoyed both flicks but I liked Planet Terror much more than Death Proof.

I think QT's foot fetish has reached the level of unhealthy obsession.  Most of the shots feature woman's feet...including the opening shot.  Jeez!  Hey, Quentin, not everybody likes feet!  Ease up on it alright!  I liked Kurt Russel's character and he looked like thoroughly enjoyed making the film.  I don't mind character development but the girls' conversations come off as inane and don't really tell you a whole lot about them.  Now, I know the "feel" QT was going for and if you look at a bunch of car and motorcycle movies of the 70's, he nailed it.  In those type of movies you don't come for plot but you stay for the car chases.  That being said, it was a bit of a let down after Planet Terror.  When I get the DVD, I'll probably fast forward to the Stuntman Mike parts and skip the "girls talking" parts.  (BTW swearing like a drunken sailor is cool when your Samuel L. Jackson, not so much when your a cute girl)

Planet Terror was an homage of the highest order.  It was nothing if not entertaining from start to finish.  I'm not queamish but I winced at the level of gore.  They had a lot of cameos from B-grade stars.  It was good to see some actors you haven't seen in a while.  Maybe some of them will enjoy a Travolta-esque comeback.

The fake trailers are worth the price of admission!  Everybody in the theater was screaming with laughter.  I loved "Don't" and "Thanksgiving".  "Machete" was pretty good and Rob Zombie's "SS" was the worst of the bunch.  I'm not saying it was bad but I guess I was expecting something else.  Nick Cage is hysterical!  I hope they have an unrated directors' cut of the movie even though it'll be 4 hours long.

Yea, i thin kit wa s a duck.

I have yet to see GRINDHOUSE, but HAPPY BIRTHDAY karma!   :thumbup:

Here's an interesting little screenshot I grabbed from the DVD of Death Proof...just before the opening title saying "Death Proof", for a tiny milli-second another title flashes up... you can hardly notice it watching in real-time but when I freeze-framed it I got this:

(http://i8.tinypic.com/646w46p.jpg)

not sure what the relevance of this could be but it's kind of interesting, anyway. :edit: apparently I'm the billionth person on the net to notice this. turns out it was the working title for the film.

As for "deliberate" mistakes in Death Proof how about when the main girl in the first half repeatedly mentions the band Dave, Dee, Dozy, Beaky, MITCH, and Tich... it's should actually be MICK and Tich...this seems a little too subtle/off the wall to be a deliberate error, I think they may have genuinely f-'ed up there IMO.

Overall I thought the first half of Death Proof was classic Tarrantino, but after the first crash the second lot of girl characters are unbelievably annoying and the film just drags...as for Planet Terror I don't share everyone else's enthusiasm about this, I thought it was over indulgent and repetetive...

For me the highlight of the entire Grindhouse production was definitely the fake trailers, esp. ThanksGiving and Machete... I thought these seriously rocked.

If you want to get technical, it's an exploitation in-joke.  I used to have a lot of VHS boots of various movies with different names according to the market they were released in.  A couple of Jess Franco movies in my possession actually did that where the original title was on screen for a split second before some crappy title card was savagely inserted in its place.  I also had a couple of Indonesian movies where rather than just edit the title card into the movie, you actually saw someone's hand place a new card in front of the old one.

As for your take on Death Proof, I am the complete opposite.  If there was one thing that movie needed cut it was the entire build up to the first crash.  Part of my problem with Tarantino these days is that all of his dialog scenes give me the impression that he spends the entire writing process patting himself on the back for being what he thinks is so clever.  His talking scenes are so awkward that none of it ever comes across like natural conversation to me.  No one talks like the people in his movies do.  Once the first wreck is over, that movie picks up considerably.  There had to be a better way to introduce Stuntman Mike.

okay, thanks for clearing up that 'in-joke' stuff with the titles... that thing with the cards kind of sounds familiar, I think I may have seen one film that did this as well, can't remember exactly...


Even if you think the opposite about Death Proof, I definitely agree with you about this. you can almost visualise Tarantino ticking off 'cool reference' boxes in his head while he's writing the script, but at the same time I kind of like that approach, because to me the dialogue is so blatantly unreal it becomes surreal (if that makes any sense).

I can't wait for the Death Proof DVD. I think that Death Proof was one of Quentin's best things along with Kill Bill Vol. 2  (yeah, yeah, I know that technically Kill Bill is one giant movie but Vol. 2 was better IMO).

But at the same time I can understand how someone could not like it.  As for which one I would watch more when I have both of them on DVD I can definitely say Death Proof as Planet Terror doesn't have anything going on beneath the surface even though it was a lot of fun.  Seeing Michael Biehn getting used properly again is always a treat as he's a fantastic actor.  He needs to hook up with James Cameron again at some point.

Yeah, I get that.  I think that appeals to his wider audience and I'm just on the outside.  I feel the same way about Kevin Smith because his writing is similar to QT's where it's so wordy and has an intended rhythm but his actors have real difficulty performing what's on the page.

yeah agree Kevin Smith does that. I liked Clerks but in something like Dogma it's just too 'clever'. they sound like they're on autopilot trying to pronounce each word properly, lol


oops. didn't know it wasn't out yet. my friend lent me a burned copy   :buggedout: hence I managed to get that screen-grab...

that's strange. Ive just read the TV listings and in one hour's time quentin tarantino is guesting on the jonathan ross show to discuss Death Proof! I don't expect you guys are in the uk though. if he says anything worth adding to thee thread I'll post it up afterwards.

Anyone here see this with a girl, or speak with a girl who also thought 'Death Proof' was boring/annoying?

i saw it with my girl and she loved it.

The character is the same character (Quentin mentioned it somewhere, as I recall) who was going to rape the Bride while she was comatose in Kill Bill.  So, it may not be looking too good for her.

On the note of the trailers...  The creator of this one posted it here before, but it won the SXSW contest held by Rob Rodriguez and apparently will be featured on the Grindhouse DVD (which won't be coming out til June 2008!  Yeesh.).  It's more accurate to the feel of grindhouse movies than the normal ones (which I quite enjoyed, don't get me wrong), so I give him props for that. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LlazPgxKrA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LlazPgxKrA)
Hobo With a Shotgun.

and I hope that you're going to buy the official DVD on Tuesday?   :wink:

If that's when it's released here as well, then yeah...I have no pirated DVDs in my collection, Im proud to say.

...by the way I just saw that TV interview, and that's one of the most awkward interviews I've ever seen! Tarantino kept telling these wild anecdotes talking about 1000 words per minute, doing big hand gestures but the audience wasn't buying it at all. there were big silences when you could tell he was waiting for a laugh. the interviewer (jonathan ross) kept having to change the subject. I've lost a bit of respect for Tarantino, he comes aross like a hyperactive 13yr old. never seen an interview before, is he always like that?? didn't say anything that interesting about D/P either... :thumbdown:

Ive noticed that about him. Kind of a reeely anoying version of Steven Speilberg, which whom i also understand has the mind of a child.

And MAN-O-MAN am I ever p**sED about them splitting grindhouse into 2 seperate dvds. Not that i was that big of a fan of DEATH PROOF but its the feel of an old "2 movies for 1!" deal, ya know what i mean? I wont be buying either dvd, despite my love for PLANET TERROR unless they decide to stop being jerkbags and release the whole movie on 1 dvd. (F**King Weinstein.) 

I saw it with 2 girls and they both got so bored they left durring the middle of the movie to smoke. I also was frikkin DYING of bordom, but i stayed.

I can understand Grindhouse getting the separate DVD treatment for two reasons:

(1) A lot of people seemed to prefer one movie over the other, whether it be for entertainment value or for  the "I'd buy this one on DVD, but I'd only watch the other one once and be done with it" factor. People are more likely to buy the one they liked if it's available on a separate DVD rather than pay twice as much to get both movies in a single package. Personally I enjoyed both enough to buy them, so I'd be willing to buy them as a set, which will no doubt come along once Planet Terror lands.

(2) The movie bombed in theaters because people were either not interested, unable to sit through a 3 hour viewing experience, or just too lazy to see it before it disappeared from big screens all together... or because it just wasn't carried in their neck of the woods to begin with, which is sad and to those who really wanted to see it, you have my sympathies. I know what it's like to live in the middle of nowhere and be subjected to nothing but Hollywood box office chumpions. I feel your pain. Anyway, I think releasing the movies as two separate DVDs is also an attempt by the Weinstein Company to make some extra dough off of the project given the box office failing they suffered from putting it into theaters to a nation of movie-goers who either weren't ready or "just don't get it".

I think the hold off on Planet Terror is also to accommodate the Machete feature that Rodriguez is/was planning on releasing direct-to-DVD alongside it. I'll have to check imdb to see if there are any updates on whether this is still the plan or not...

I'm one of the people who didn't get to see Grindhouse in the theater due to it not playing in my area, like Anubis mentioned.  That being said, I did obtain a copy of Death Proof and watched a little over the first hour last night.

*Slight Spoilers*

First of all, why does everyone hate Death Proof?!?  I went into it expecting it to be awful considering the buzz around it, and so far I've loved every second of it.  That being said, I should note that one of the things I love most about Tarantino's films is his sense of dialogue.  He's a master of the rapid fire conversation and I love how theatrical every line seems.  That being said, I actually enjoyed all of the talking throughout the first portion of the film. 

Kurt Russel IS Stuntman Mike.  I can't image a better person being cast in the role.  The guy is f***ing brutal.  The first car wreck which takes place about an hour into the film is fantastic.  I sat there with my mouth open for what seemed like forever after it occurred.  The chick gets her leg ripped off and then the seriously hot Butterfly gets her face ran over.  Seriously, how could ANYONE hate this flick!?

So far the only thing I have disliked is Tarantino's decision to do away with all of the grain and make a "real" film in the last third.  I have yet to finish this portion of the film and I hope it holds up as well as everything before it.

As for someone saying it just feels like any other Tarantino film....well it does.  But, then again it also works very well as an exploitation film.  When one thinks about exploitation flicks, they always think about the classics that deliver the gore and mayhem.  Most people don't think about the other exploitation flicks that came out at the same time which were meandering and slow and never live up to the advertised hype.  Death Proof is kinda like that.  It takes a long time to get going but once it does, it's amazing.  I can't wait to watch the rest tonight.

true... it's probably an all time Top 10 movie car crash. maybe top 5...I can't really think of any that compare to it, really.

So I finished the flick last night.  Absolutely great.  I love the freeze frame at the very end, very very 70s. 

As I've stated here before, I'm a huge MOPAR nut and a big fan of Vanishing Point.  When the last portion of the film turned into a love letter to classic MOPAR muscle cars, I was completely hooked.  Even my wife was getting excited with the Challenger, repeating like a mantra: "I Want To Drive That Car!" over and over.

I love Stuntman Mike's transformation once he gets shot.  I was enjoying every scene of him crying and freaking out.  He goes from complete badass to crying victim in a split-second and I didn't expect that from the film.  Really threw me for a loop.  Also, Zoe Bell was fantastic here.  Apparently she is a stunt actress in real life, but she did a great job in the role she was in.  The scene with her riding on the hood of the car made me fall instantly in love with her.  I hope she decides to do more acting roles.

I'm very pleased with Death Proof.  I had all intentions of hating it due to the bad reaction it got at it's release.  It's actually pretty damn awesome.  Hot chicks, fast cars and Kurt Russel. 

Here in the UK Grindhouse has been split in half and we're actually getting it as the two separate movies as opposed to a "double feature". In a way I'm glad - the days of double features are long gone, people are more busy and have less time to spend in a theatre, and attention spans are shorter. I know I'd have wanted to leave after the first film. Death Proof is already on it's way, we're getting the TV Spots and trailers, I'm not sure when we get Planet Terror, though. Either way I look forward to seeing both, and I hope we get some of the fake trailers still.

As for the splitting of the DVDs, in both the USA and the UK (and elsewhere) I imagine there'll probably be a double feature DVD release in it's original Grindhouse form at some point, or perhaps a two disc boxset with the Grindhouse title.

I found out today that in the Death Proof DVD is a 5 dollar coupon that you can use towards Planet Terror which is out on October 16th.

no offense Torgo, but screw that, my friend. GRINDHOUSE is 1 movie, and unless the rules have been changed and no one told me, when movies get released to dvd you dont have to buy one half and then buy the other half for the same price separetly. Its all about making money. They think the majority of the movie-going public is stupid (not calling you stupid by any means, by the way.  :bouncegiggle:) and they're right in assuming that unfotunately. But im not gonna bite. Not until they release the whole damn unedited movie on 1 bloody dvd. The jerkbags. :hatred:

Here's another European that had to see the whole thing at two different times and pay two tickets.

Because pretty much this sums it all: Damn the Weinsteins and their silly excuses about not having a double feature tradition in Europe. All they care about is to make ends meet, and if Americans won't cough their bucks as much as they expect, well, just make the rest of the world pay double.

These said, I think these movies should have been released separately from the very beginning. They're too different, and too long, to be released a double feature. Really, I can't imagine myself sitting throgh both movies in one session. Then they could have recovered the idea for the DVD and sell them together.

Anyway, I enjoyed "Planet Terror" more than I expected. It sure has a lot of flaws (irregular pacing, too much gore, an ill-advised touch of sentimentality towards the very end) and it tries to be too many things at the same time for its own good, but what the hell, it's tons of fun, and that's what Rodriguez was aiming to.

But the winner here is "Deathproof". Tarantino takes things quite more differently than Rodriguez. Rodriguez's film is a real B-movie, while Tarantino makes this film a personal exercise. He does not disguise his style, he rather tries to adapt it to the material. The blend is not perfect (the feeling of reiteration is evident as he introduces the second gang of girls), but the slow pacing does work, and his camerawork is far superior than Rodriguez's.

The problem here is that not only American audiences get the worst version (I'm told the lapdance by Vanessa Ferlito, one of the highlights of the movie is gone in that version), but that they also get to see the movie right after a very frantic one. I can understand the boredom, really. All I can say is wait for the DVD and watch it isolately. It gets much better.

Is there anyone who doesnt feel like waiting for the Planet Terror dvd release?

(Ssshh! its our little secret!)

http://mmovp.net/forum/showthread.php/grindhouse-2007-dvd-quality-1485.html?t=1485

Hasn't been released at cinemas here yet.  If overseas trends are anything to go by, it seems like it will be separated.  I hope not, but we'll see.

Was the excuse that Europeans don't have a double feature tradition?  I wonder what their line will be here... We ain't Europe, but as far as I know, we don't have much of a double tradition either. 

I watched the Death Proof extended cut last night after picking it up at Wally World (I didn't fall for that Best Buy nonsense of paying an extra 8 bucks for a 30 minute featurette). 

I have to say that it works even better in it's extended version with the 25 or so of extra minutes put back into it.  There's more Stuntman Mike stuff, the lap dance is beyond hot and the B/W scene at the start of the 2nd act was great as well.

I guess I'm one of the people that thought that Death Proof was much better than Planet Terror.  I will be picking up the Planet Terror DVD when it is released in a little less than month but I will be returning to Death Proof much more.

I forgot to mention that in exchange of getting the long versions of both films in my country, apart from paying twice, we only got the "Machete" trailer. I would have payed even more to see the trailer of "Werewolf women of the SS" on a crowded theatre.

I'd say that the problem with "Death Proof" bad reviews in America is not only that they cut somke of the best stuff, but also that it should have come *before* "Planet Terror", and not afterwards. "Planet Terror" is so action packed and frantic that it makes "Death Proof" look even slower.

I agree with everyone who says that they should have made Death Proof the first movie on the double bill in America.  While I liked it better, Planet Terror was so frenetic that people were disappointed with how seemingly "slow" Death Proof was even though it was by far the better of the 2.

You do realize that each movie was only like 70 minutes in the American version?  With the actual trailers, fake trailers, and both films, it was still only about 3 hours.  That's, for example, about as long as The Two Towers, or Dances with Wolves.  Or a half an hour shorter than the theatrical Return of the King...  Or about 10 minutes longer than the most recent Pirates of the Caribbean.   As an aside, typical double features in the US in the old days were 80-90 minute films.

Too different, maybe, but I really can't see how you can argue they're too long.  It just makes me sad double features are so rare these days (some small non-chain theatres in the US still do them once in a while).  It's nice to actually be able to call an "evening at the movies" just that once in a while.

Seeing Grindhoue in a theater with a bunch of my friends was one of the best times that I've had seeing a film in a theater that I can ever remember.

I actually heard some people griping about how "messed up the picture quality was" and I wanted to tell them that it was supposed to be like that.  People just didn't "get it" as a whole even though it's easily the best thing I've seen so far this year.

I went to Target today and they had death proof in the new release section. Im really p**sed that they are releasing the 2 halfs of Grindhouse seperetly, so I hid them all. Yay me!

"This car is 100% Death Proof. Only to get the benefit of it, Honey, you REALLY need to be sittin' in my seat!"
----This is gotta be one of my favorite quotes!

loved these films.

Planet Terror. Awesome zombie flick. Love the transitions between scenes and locations. Loved how he used the effect of film degradation for suspense build up. Always appreciate the 10 minute film school where he shows you how to do some of the techniques he uses.

Death Proof. Kurt Russell is bad ass. and so are the girls. very dialogue heavy, but hey, its Tarantino what do you expect? but the action scenes are unbelievable. the chase scene where they had 3 generations of legendary stunt actors in one shot! fabulous. did i mention the girls are hot?

I seriously stood up and clapped after watching each of these films. and i watched them by myself. lol

I really wanted to see some of the fake advert films in this made into full movies. Especially the Werewolf Women of the S.S. one.

Well, we got Machete.  There were also plans for Thanksgiving at one point, dunno what happened.  The only other one that got anywhere was Hobo With a Shotgun, if that counts - in Canada, they added it into the fake trailers part after it won a contest.  So maybe one day we'll get a couple of the others.