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Title: Deadly Smoke Detector
Post by: Ash on April 11, 2007, 06:05:10 PM
I stopped by a friend's house the other day and we were sitting at the table in the basement when he handed me an old smoke detector.

Here's a pic:
(click on thumbnail to enlarge)
(http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/4413/smokealarm001db3.th.jpg) (http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smokealarm001db3.jpg)

I looked at it for a second and then he said, "Turn it over".
At first I didn't see what he was talking about...and then I saw it.

Click on the thumbnail below to see the reverse side up close:

(http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/7177/smokealarm002pb5.th.jpg) (http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smokealarm002pb5.jpg)

What the?!
What material could be in it?


Title: Re: Deadly Smoke Detector
Post by: Poogie on April 11, 2007, 06:31:42 PM
Yep......that seems about right......  :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Deadly Smoke Detector
Post by: Andrew on April 11, 2007, 06:39:25 PM
That is an ionization smoke detector, one of the more "sensitive" ones.  They have a small amount of radioactive material so that they can detect fires.  We have a Kidde photoelectric and ionization detector outside the bedrooms.  It has the same sort of warning on the back.  It also lists the material in it as Americium-241.  It appears that Americium-241 emits very little radioactivity and you are perfectly safe so long as you don't go breaking it apart to get at the little dot of material.


Title: Re: Deadly Smoke Detector
Post by: Poogie on April 11, 2007, 06:44:59 PM
Let me see.........we have TV's, Microwaves and now fire detectors in our homes with just a little radioactive material. What next?  It's starting to add up.  :lookingup:


Title: Re: Deadly Smoke Detector
Post by: ulthar on April 11, 2007, 06:59:13 PM
Let me see.........we have TV's, Microwaves and now fire detectors in our homes with just a little radioactive material. What next?  It's starting to add up.  :lookingup:

Actually, you might be surprised at the household items containing radioactive material.  We once held a geiger counter up to some china dinner plates and the thing went nuts.  Be careful what you look for, eh?

As for smoke detectors, a colleague of mine used to use one to calibrate his detection equipment.   :teddyr:

All that said, there's three types of "radiation:" alpha, beta and gamma.  The really bad one is gamma; alpha and beta radiation is not that bad, but is still called 'radiation.'  Even gamma radiation is a very broad term, as it refers to any "light" of higher frequency than x-rays.


Title: Re: Deadly Smoke Detector
Post by: Andrew on April 11, 2007, 07:02:58 PM
Let me see.........we have TV's, Microwaves and now fire detectors in our homes with just a little radioactive material. What next?  It's starting to add up.  :lookingup:


Well, nothing quite as bad as the following:

http://www.badmovies.org/multimedia/movies6/cabyss1.mpg

Come on, how many times do you get to hear someone say, "Damn it!  Who opened the radioactive container?"


Title: Re: Deadly Smoke Detector
Post by: Ash on April 11, 2007, 07:28:38 PM
Actually, you might be surprised at the household items containing radioactive material.  We once held a geiger counter up to some china dinner plates and the thing went nuts.  Be careful what you look for, eh?

Where'd you get a geiger counter?  How much does one cost?
Why would china dinner plates contain radioactive material?

Thanks for the radioactivity info.
I don't know much about it...maybe I'll have to study up on it.

And Andrew, I've seen that clip before...hilarious!   :bouncegiggle: