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Title: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: respectmeordye3 on April 30, 2007, 01:25:20 PM
Ever see a movie touted as a kid's movie but is far from it?

I can.

Milk Money.

In this "kid's movie" that is supposedly for 5 year olds and up, a kid and his friends put their money together to see a naked woman.They pay a hooker to lift up her shirt(get it-milk money how nonchalant!  :lookingup:     )

Anyhoo The hooker flashes them and then ends up going to the main characters house and posing as his new mom to escape the mob who wants to kill her for seeing them do crime.


Now maybe I am just old fashioned or something    :hot:  :question:  :drink: but  I don't really think that a movie about 8 year old kids paying a hooker to flash them  :buggedout: is exactly kiddie/family movie material.


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: MoronBoy on April 30, 2007, 04:02:13 PM
Wizards

I really don't think anybody considered this a kids' movie, but on the interview on the DVD, Ralph Bakshi claims that it is(guy also seems a bit full of himself, too).

A little too violent and a bit too much sexual material for anybody in their right mind to consider it a kiddie flick. Just look a how the female fairy character is dressed and the nipples poking out through her outfit. Also, how many children's movies contain the word "Slut"?


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: BoyScoutKevin on April 30, 2007, 04:56:38 PM
The classic case, which is reviewed at this site, "The Neverending Story III."

"The Neverending Story I" and "The Neverending Story II"can be considered children's films, but what were they thinking with "The Neverending Story III" and running over that poor rabbit.

Of course, "kid movies that aren't" are different from "kid movies that are," but shouldn't be seen by child or adult. I can think of a few of those.  "Pinocchio in Outer Space" anyone?


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: Torgo on April 30, 2007, 05:22:07 PM
Don Coscarelli has always claimed that the 1st Beastmaster movie is more of a family/kids' film.

The fact that it's pretty violent at times and has a topless Tanya Roberts makes me wonder about that. 


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: Ometiklan on April 30, 2007, 07:40:00 PM
WaterShip Down.
Cute little bunny rabbits ripping each other to shreds!
Kiddie movie... I think Not! :teddyr:


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: DodgingGrunge on April 30, 2007, 08:26:34 PM
What about Larry Clark's Kids?  Haha.

I actually had no restrictions on my cinematic viewings as a kid so my perceptions of appropriateness will be a bit skewed.

I used to run a small video store and I recall receiving quite a few complaints from parents over Jumanji.  There are plenty of movies made to look cool to small children that really are for adults.  Wizards was mentioned.  I'd vote for just about anything Bakshi has animated, since children are naturally drawn to cartoons (and their parents won't realize some cartoons are for adults).  Ooh, and just about any Anime.

Jurassic Park had so much merchandising there is no way they could have claimed it was for adults.  Then again, so did Terminator 2.  Haha.


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: rebel_1812 on April 30, 2007, 11:46:25 PM
Radio Flyer.  If anyone saw the previews for this it seemed like the adventures of normal kids with imagination, growning up in the burbs and etc.  The real movie was about kids that were in an abusive household trying to escape with a homemade flying machine.


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: AnubisVonMojo on May 01, 2007, 12:08:20 AM
Return to Oz: Dorothy's put into a psyche ward and hooked up to a borderline electric chair for "shock therapy", then travels back to Oz only to find that the place has been totaled, the Muchkins are all dead or missing, the land's been overrun by an evil queen and her mutant followers who dress in weird leather bondage outfits and have metal wheels for hands and feet... and Jack Pumpkinhead just freaks me the f*ck out. :buggedout:


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: felgekarp on May 01, 2007, 04:56:51 AM
Any of the Harry Potter films, there's always something in each one that's quite dark.


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: Hunky Magoo on May 01, 2007, 05:42:28 AM
Labyrinth and Dark Crystal (which there makeing a sequel of) were scary freakin' movies when i saw them as a kid


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: AnubisVonMojo on May 01, 2007, 09:52:34 AM
Labyrinth and Dark Crystal (which there makeing a sequel of) were scary freakin' movies when i saw them as a kid

Between giant attack beetles, perverse skeletal birds "draining the essense" from elf children and David Bowie in crotch suffocating tights, you're right, neither of those can really be classified as "for the kiddies".


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: respectmeordye3 on May 01, 2007, 01:05:44 PM
The classic case, which is reviewed at this site, "The Neverending Story III."

"The Neverending Story I" and "The Neverending Story II"can be considered children's films, but what were they thinking with "The Neverending Story III" and running over that poor rabbit.

Of course, "kid movies that aren't" are different from "kid movies that are," but shouldn't be seen by child or adult. I can think of a few of those.  "Pinocchio in Outer Space" anyone?

that is that cheaply animated movie right? I liked it as a kid. Probably hate it nowadays.


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: Andrew on May 01, 2007, 05:50:11 PM
You can't call Bakshi 'full of himself' when he changed Americans' perception of animation and helped move the artform forward several degrees, and you, on the other hand, have done, well, nothing.

Insulting another forum member is not acceptable behavior.  I have also watched a short feature with Bakshi, I believe it was on the "Fire and Ice" DVD, and he does come across as full of himself.  I can agree that the man did some good work and helped to advance animation.  It does not mean that he can say anything and not seem conceited.


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: Susan on May 01, 2007, 06:14:26 PM
not really touted but always thought it was strange to have a movie CALLED "Kids", ABOUT "Kids", but rated NC-17  :lookingup:


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: BoyScoutKevin on May 01, 2007, 07:13:17 PM
The classic case, which is reviewed at this site, "The Neverending Story III."

"The Neverending Story I" and "The Neverending Story II"can be considered children's films, but what were they thinking with "The Neverending Story III" and running over that poor rabbit.

Of course, "kid movies that aren't" are different from "kid movies that are," but shouldn't be seen by child or adult. I can think of a few of those.  "Pinocchio in Outer Space" anyone?

that is that cheaply animated movie right? I liked it as a kid. Probably hate it nowadays.

Yes.


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: Andrew on May 01, 2007, 08:01:36 PM
Where did I insult anyone?

The following is insulting, as you dismiss the other gent's opinion because he has not done anything worthwhile for animation (per your reasoning).  I would take offense to it.  Heck, I take offense to someone who uses that sort of reasoning. 

you, on the other hand, have done, well, nothing.

I can respect that your opinion is Bakshi did not come off as full of himself.  To me, he did. 


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: Andrew on May 01, 2007, 08:15:33 PM
Larry Clark is obsessed with showing teenage characters f**king. I've only seen one of his movies, Teenage Caveman (absolutely one of the worst films I've ever seen), and what I gathered from that and descriptions of his other films such as Kids and Ken Park is that he is completely obsessed with directing scenes of teenagers f**king. That's his thing.

"Kids" was disturbing to me.  I did not find it particularly "real," it was just exploitation and of the sort that made me uncomfortable.

I can also agree with you on "Teenage Caveman" (the remake).  This is copied and pasted from an earlier post I made about it, but I think it perfectly states a major problem I had with the movie:

****
Awful film.  Whoever wrote the script could not come up with any dialog, so they just have the characters say, "F**k." over and over.
****

Quite the opposite of the original.  The script was at least trying for something, besides just saying, "They're teenagers - make them full of angst and out of control."


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: Torgo on May 01, 2007, 08:23:38 PM
(http://www.ukuleleman.net/uploaded_images/Gremlins%201-703817.jpg)

To the best of my memory, I recall them marketing the original Gremlins as a cute and cudly kids film.

I was 9 when it came out and my mom took my 2 older sisters (12 and 15 at the time) to go see the first Gremlins and she was horrified by how twisted and at times comically dark the movie was.

I think they ended up updating the marketing because there were tons of parents voicing complains against the film being something different than what it was marketed as.

The gremlin in the microwave really disgusted her.  I thought it was hilarious even then.   :teddyr:


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: MoronBoy on May 01, 2007, 08:26:02 PM
Gremlins, the reason the rating PG-13 came to be.


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: DodgingGrunge on May 01, 2007, 08:30:43 PM
Gremlins, the reason the rating PG-13 came to be.

That and Indiana Jones + the Temple of Doom.  Mustn't forget the removal of a still-beating heart.  Haha.

If memory serves it was the bad movie opus Red Dawn which was the first movie actually released with a PG-13 rating.  Gotta love Breakfast Club VS Communism!


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: Torgo on May 01, 2007, 08:31:03 PM
Gremlins, the reason the rating PG-13 came to be.

Along with Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom and Poltergeist.


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: Susan on May 01, 2007, 10:11:42 PM
Gremlins, the reason the rating PG-13 came to be.

Along with Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom and Poltergeist.

Lest we not forget....Red Dawn
WOLVERIIIIIINES! lol

Of course the whole rating system is another topic to be had.  It's funny to think Spielberg made Jaws a PG film and 10 years later his kids movie with mischevious little puppets gets a PG-13


Title: Dirkie a.k.a Lost In The Desert
Post by: Trevor on May 02, 2007, 01:45:12 AM
  :buggedout:

Jamie Uys, the South African filmmaker famous for The Gods Must Be Crazy made a film entitled Dirkie in 1969. Also known as Lost In The Desert, it involved a young boy and his grandfather flying over the Kalahari. The grandfather has a coronary and dies, the plane crashes and the young boy and his dog are left to fend for themselves until they are rescued by a Bushman / San tribe and the boy's father later finds them.

One horrific scene, the boy is looking for his dog and the San give him some meat ~ the boy freaks, thinking they have killed his dog.  :buggedout:

Marketed as a movie for his younger fans, Jamie only succeeded in scaring them out of their wits.

The film is available for purchase from www.kalahari.net (http://www.kalahari.net)


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: akiratubo on May 02, 2007, 06:51:16 AM
The Garbage Pail Kids Movie

Needs no explanation.


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: DodgingGrunge on May 02, 2007, 07:03:36 AM
The Garbage Pail Kids Movie

I've actually found that people, now in their twenties, that watched Garbage Pail Kids when they were young are much more likely to have developed an irrevocably morbid sense of humor than those who didn't (thus making them much more my kind of people!).  It's true; I conducted an informal poll among the customers at the video store I used to run.  The film certainly doesn't operate on the typical wavelengths of children's programming, but I think it has just enough guttural humor to draw them into its web and alter their psyches.  Kind of like William Castle did for older generations.

'Course if I were a parent I'd take Garbage Pail Kids over misogynistic Princess Diaries-type schlock any day.


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: AnubisVonMojo on May 02, 2007, 10:03:31 AM
'Course if I were a parent I'd take Garbage Pail Kids over misogynistic Princess Diaries-type schlock any day.

The sh!t kids watch these days is appalling. Well, the stuff girls watch anyway. It's either crap reaffirming the "find a husband and be a good wife" philosophy or the "dress like trash and live a life of whoring and materialism" opposite. I don't think I'd want to raise a daughter in this day and age because of the god awful messages being thrown at them everyday. Let's not forget that cell phone commercial with the brat talking in IM shorthand and throwing a fit because her mom doesn't want to pay $100/month so she can text inane bs to her friend that she could just as easily talk to like a human being...

Yeah, I'd give my kids GPK over Bratz or Winx Club any day. Good thing I picked up the animated series DVD for just such preperation.  :teddyr:


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: Hunky Magoo on May 02, 2007, 07:21:40 PM
Potergeist, it was rated PG but it was way too disturbing for kids. Its the only one that still creeps me out horror movie wise. From the Face peeling to the clown pulling the boy under the bed doing god know what he's doing (possibly raping him) even The Way the parents acted around each other scared me. I will never think of Donald Ducks Voice the same way again

Trivia: The Film was originally R but got the rating changed on appeal to PG


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: EricDaNerd on May 04, 2007, 12:27:24 AM
My vote is for willy wonka because it's not very clear whether the naughty kids live or not and also that scene near the end when Wonka is yelling at charlie and telling him he lost for stealing.  Wilder's acting is so intense...it definitely scared me as a kid.


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: Hunky Magoo on May 04, 2007, 02:01:49 PM
I use to have this great animated picture from the shining when hes chopping the door down but Jacks face is replaced with Willy Wonkas and when he sticks he head in the hole he says YOU GET NOTHING! lmao. I like to think he killed the kids


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: DistantJ on May 04, 2007, 03:23:50 PM
I think Harry Potter is starting to get pretty damn badass. And some of Doctor Who is a bit much for the kiddies.


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: Torgo on May 04, 2007, 03:46:55 PM
I use to have this great animated picture from the shining when hes chopping the door down but Jacks face is replaced with Willy Wonkas and when he sticks he head in the hole he says YOU GET NOTHING! lmao. I like to think he killed the kids

That's too funny.   :teddyr:


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: Torgo on May 04, 2007, 03:48:39 PM
My vote is for willy wonka because it's not very clear whether the naughty kids live or not and also that scene near the end when Wonka is yelling at charlie and telling him he lost for stealing.  Wilder's acting is so intense...it definitely scared me as a kid.

The scene that freaked me out as a kid was the infamous "boat ride".

If I'm not mistaken, I think that scene made Bravo's top 50 scariest (or was it top 100) scariest movie moments of all time.

And it's in a supposed kid's film!   :buggedout:


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: CoreyHeldpen on May 04, 2007, 08:24:18 PM
Gotta agree with Torgo. I had no idea what was going on in that Boat Ride scene, all I knew was that it terrified me. :buggedout:


Title: Re: Kid movies that aren't.
Post by: Susan on May 04, 2007, 08:31:23 PM
Gotta agree with Torgo. I had no idea what was going on in that Boat Ride scene, all I knew was that it terrified me. :buggedout:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zail7Gdqro (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zail7Gdqro)