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Which is better Troma or Full Moon?

Alright so I never watched horror movies till 1996 when I was 10 and my cousin showed me Scream; From There I was hooked. I started grabbing every film I could get my hands on... thank god there was a mom and pops store by my house. When I was like 13-14 I thought Full Moon had the best stuff... Seed People, Shrieker, Puppet Master 1-3, Bad Channels, Demonic Toys... they were all so full of bizarre wonder. Plus Charles Band's involvement in Classics like Re-Animator and Dolls.

Around 2003 however is when I found Cannibal The Musical and purchased it and watched it for the first time. After that I watched the trailers and Netflix set me in motion (I had seen Bugged and the first 2 Toxic Avenger Films before hand but with the exceptation of Toxic Avenger it really didn't do anything for me)

Now I'm a huge Troma Fan but It really got me thinking... regardless of Full Moon going out of business... which one was the better studio or furthermore who was the better director? Charles Band or Llyod Kaufman

I think Kaufman is a great director but I think Charles band definately has a better eye for films to buy the rights for... I've released 90% of the non-Kaufman directed troma flicks are pretty bad (exceptations bloodsucking Freaks, Cannibal The Musical)

So what's everyone else's Opinion?

This is kinda like asking which you'd prefer, a kick in the throat or a kick in the balls.  Both are gonna leave you spitting blood and bedridden for a couple weeks, you just gotta way your options for which is gonna have the most permanent damage.

Both companies have really gone downhill in the last. oh. decade or so, but I'd have to go with Troma for the best overall production during their good period.

Long story short - more blood, more boobs, more toxic waste = better movies.

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From a perspective of production, I would go with Full Moon, which is how I voted.

The plus I would give Troma is in cataloging movies which otherwise might not see the light of day.

I personally LOVE the last few Troma Films... Terror Firmer and Citizen Toxie are probably the best Troma films in a while and Poultrygiest looks even better

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Just reread the first post and was wondering, did Full Moon actually go out of business, or did they just change their name?  I seem to recall Band releasing yet another killer doll movie a year or so back and (more recently) something about a killer bong.  I'm pretty sure he still does his "roadshow" thing too, visiting horror conventions and whatnot and pimping his assbackwards products.

Then again, maybe I'm just blowing smoke, as I try to make it my business to avoid the Band camp whenever possible.  Well, other than that Puppet Master vs Demonic Toys DVD I bought a few years back.

But that was only for Vanessa Angel.  I swear.

I like both companies, but it seems that Full Moon (now Shadow Entertainment since Full Moon went bankrupt years ago) TRIES to make good movies and (quite often) fails. Troma just goes all out in an attempt to make stupid and idiotic sh*t all the time. Granted, I loved the Toxic Avenger and Sargeant Kabukiman NYPD (among other Troma "classics") but at this point, Lloyd and the gang have to pulling in some decent cash what with their impressive catalog of low-budget and indie films, so why the hell don't they try their hand at a good, expensive looking b-movie?! (Side Note: Poultrygeist looks awesome!)

 Full Moon has some really nifty movies under their old moniker including the Puppet Master series, Dr. Mordrid, and a handful of other memorable little flicks. Too bad a lot of them are OOP.  :bluesad:

Welcome aboard, Mr. Red.  I definitely remember reading that Full Moon went out of business.  Their website also lapsed during that period.  It is back, but I think under a different URL.

I am also looking forward to "Poultrygeist."  However, I think that Full Moon was the better of the two.  Troma goes for insane, out of control films, while Full Moon was focused on cult flicks and seemed to have a wider range.  Going back further in Band's history, I enjoyed stuff like "Arena" and those that he did.

By the way, I was just looking at the Full Moon Direct website and they advertise that they found a batch of the Puppet Master Box sets and are selling them for $100:

http://www.fullmoondirect.com/

Look about halfway down the page.

I saw that... but do I really want to spend $100 for half a box set? lol

Full Moon. It's films have the one-up with some actual decent scares in them, not to mention the fact Troma always makes me feel dirty by the climax of the film. Full Moon also has a few more good child companies, where Troma just has plain ol' Troma.

I am SO tempted to order that box set.

 I like Troma better...and I'm not sure why...actually,I don't know why I like most ANYTHING I like...because most "normal" people think I'm a weirdo,as far as in my taste in movies go.

I voted for Full Moon, based on the word "better" in the question Full Moon had better actors(for the most part), better editing, better if not sometimes unique ideas .
However if Full Moon ever made anything "Troma" like it would have either been Blood Dolls or Shrunken Heads :teddyr:

On the other hand if i want just good old fashioned campy fun nothing and i mean nothing beats a Troma flick so either way you win! :smile:

While I love the classics in the Full Moon catalog, I had to vote for Troma because I think they are a much more influential studio.  Troma has launched many careers and inspired several generations of filmmakers.  I have certainly utilized Lloyd's "headcrushing" technique for my own short films.  As for the "profits" they are allegedly making:  a great deal is squandered on the annual Tromadance celebration, in which directors screen their "movies" for free and the best, :lookingup:, are then given the chance to be distributed by Troma!  Not to mention open-bar after parties and strippers that would make Chesty Morgan blush, all in a town that prides itself on Mormon values!  This is no minor feat.  Regardless of how terrible every out-of-house Troma release is, they still make a difference.  Three decades and counting!

Full Moon, Full Moon, a hundred times Full Moon (but only one vote for them here  :teddyr:)! Full Moon made quite a few decent movies on small budgets. Yes, they made some stinkers, too, but they did some amazing things with the budgets they had. Troma, on the other hand, rarely if ever even tried to make a good movie. They just came up with admittedly eye-catching titles and then made trash to go along with them. Some Troma films are entertaining, but they fall into the trap of trying to make campy movies. Camp, as far as I'm concerned, can't really be done on purpose; it has to be accidental to be truly entertaining. If a production sets out to make a campy film, that generally means to me that they know their product is crap and so figure that if they let viewers know they know it's crap, then that makes everything okay. I respect Troma for bringing some extremely wild ideas to film and for making some entertaining crap, but Full Moon, when it was on track, made some darned fine movies

I would rate them as equal to, but not the same as each other. I voted for Full Moon because I prefer those films over Troma's. The difference to me is that Full moon seems to be trying to bring us a  "serious" low budget effort and Troma seems to go for the comedy aspect in "B" movies, both are good, I just prefer Full Moon.

Dennis said what I was going to say. 

It's hard to compare the two companies as they seem to be interested in different things.  Full Moon will try to make a serious horror film, but Troma couldn't care less.  Troma is more into the schlock area while Full Moon is into low budget horror films.  I have enjoyed films from both companies but my vote will go to Troma just because of how over the top Lloyd Kaufmann is.

That pretty well sums it up for me.  Although some (a lot) of Full Moon stuff is just unwatchably bad, a pretty good quantity of their movies basically define what "so bad it's good" is all about for me.  Take a ridiculous premise, a low budget, throw in some cheese and microwave until bubbly.  Troma I just can't stand.  It's not bad enough that their movies are beyond description, but then the audio and video quality of their DVD's can only accurately be described using four-letter words.  And Lloyd Kaufman has that intro before each movie. 

Those intros rule lol

The answer to the ultimate question? Well thats easy! 42!

Points to Troma for releasing a truckload of obscure cult flicks that would otherwise never make it to the light of day, but everything out of Full Moon was actually made by Charles Band and Full Moon (under one banner or another), so their catalog is actually theirs. Additionally, the talents and characters that came out of Full Moon beat Troma hands down. Sure, Toxie and Sgt. Kabukiman are great, but compared to Jack Deth, Dollman, the Demonic Toys, the Puppets, Radu, etcetera? Full Moon for me.

Sadly I've grown to hate Charles Ban greatly over the years as the quality has slipped to the point that even I won't touch their new releases unless I'm desperate for a cinemasochist fix. Evil Bong was abysmal and Puppet Master Vs. Demonic Toys shamed a great concept that was watered down like the Pharaoh chasing Moses after the years of delays. As far as Full Moon going bankrupt, it's gone "under" several times since it's rise and fall as each time Band had to go into hiding when all the investors he owed big time to started knocking on his door looking for their return. My ex-boss was good friends with the guy for a long time and after spending three years handling old horror comics, I discovered where exactly all of Mr. Band's "original ideas" came from. When I get around to reviewing Head of the Family, I intend to post scans of the original full story he was so blatantly "inspired by"...

When I started this Thread I waited for someone to post this

This is only about the ultimate answer, today at work the sales manager was looking over some report or other and said out loud "now we must ask the question", of course I responded with "the answer is 42".  He asked me what that meant, I explained about the Hitchhiker's Guide, Don't panic, Ultimate question etc. He walked away shaking his head.

I get this same sort of response from some of the other Marines at times.

Yea, I can't really picture military types being si fi nerds.

That's because they're semper fi nerds... :::cricket sounds:::

don't hit!

Everyone here seems to be avoiding the original introduction, wherein the young man reveals himself as a neophyte, and asks a simple comaprison question --
I am shocked (SHOCKED!) that nobody got the basic premise & simply gave him advice as to the standard badmoviedom that we all enjoy --
I mean, the original question was simply a dodge/a mcguffin -- his is the simple, general question as to what Bad Movies to generally enjoy --
(Focus on Ed Wood . . . All else will follow . . .)
peter who?/denny what?