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Title: Do You Believe?
Post by: RCMerchant on May 12, 2007, 06:16:45 PM
  I read alot about UFO's...and I was just curious if I was the only space-case on the board. I also am fascinated by cryptozoology,and other oddball things. You can pick as many as you want..or name other...stuff!

    (http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/2609/untitledxx6.png)  Thanks!


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: Ash on May 12, 2007, 06:34:42 PM
I voted for psychic powers.
We only use 10% of our brains.
Imagine what we could do if we were able to use 90-100%
If we could, I'm pretty sure psychic powers like telekenesis and telepathy would be possible.

As for UFO's, ghosts and other weird phenomenon, I'll believe in them when I see them.
Until then...no way.


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: DodgingGrunge on May 12, 2007, 07:52:17 PM
We only use 10% of our brains.


No.  :teddyr:  We use 100% of our brains.  The 10% figure has two unrelated origins:  one comes from the fact that sections of our brain are delegated to specializing in particular functions, so at any given moment, only 10% may be actively engaged, but that is just because only 10% was required for the processing.  This is just like the horsepower reading in an automobile.  While a car may have 250hp, as a driver you will usually only take advantage of a small fraction of it.  The other origin comes from our sensory filtration system.  At any given moment, only 10-25% of information reaching a neuron is passed along the synapse for processing.  The rest is discarded.

But that being said, an altogether more efficient and perceptive brain could definitely accomplish things we'd consider psychic.  Biologists have discovered "6th senses" in numerous species.  Many species of birds and dolphins can see the Earth's magnetic field.  The platypus can build a picture of its environment by collecting the smallest of electromagnetic impulses.  Fish have something called a "lateral line" that allow them to detect the most minute changes in water flow, helping them navigate around objects in complete darkness.  Insect brains contain many magnitudes less neurons than our own, and as such they can't be bothered dividing tasks between them.  This gives them much more per-task power.

I voted for Sea Monsters, but I consider most sea creatures monstrous.  For 3/4 of life's history on this planet it existed exclusively in water, allowing for very strange evolutionary offshoots.  Currently, we know more about the moon than we do about the deep ocean.  New species are identified on nearly every deep dive.  A few years back Japanese scientists managed to find a giant, 8-meter-long squid, alive and well.  It escaped, but lost a tentacle in the process.

(http://www.dodginggrunge.com/adminStorage/squid.jpg)


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: Snivelly on May 12, 2007, 08:00:25 PM
I spend a lot of time researching and writing about these subjects, and I used to do podcasts for another site I was involved with.  Cryptozoology is one of the things I obsess about, along with topics such as possible abductions and such.  And anything Fortean in nature, such as raining frogs, and the like. 

A friend of mine is starting his own site for these topics and I'll be doing a new series of shows for it, if anyone's interested I'll post a link when he gets it rolling.  The first show I'm doing is about Bigfoot, and I have shows planned around some conspiracy theories and some more paranormal stuff.


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: JaseSF on May 12, 2007, 08:50:56 PM
Well I already posted (in the "I'm your worst nightmare" thread) about my real life encounter with a creature that sounds a heck of a lot like the one described in the Wendigo legend when I was a child (I'm thinking I was around 10-12 years old). Most people either flat out do not believe me on that story of think I was a child with an overactive imagination. Many sight my current love of sci-fi, fantasy and horror as a likely influence. Thing is as a child, I purposely avoided anything even the remotest frightening when it came to movies and television. It was only after this encounter that my interest in the supernatural really began to grow.  I remember it was just after dark and I was a bit late coming home when right out in the road not far from my home I saw something. At first I thought it was a person but as I came closer to it, I realized it was much too large. The thing was very dark and its features were hard to make out but I remember it suddenly turning and snarling at me . It seemed to have an Indian's head and an animal's body.  Only earlier that day, I had done something rather foolish that was somewhat disrespective to a grave which may it is suspected contain a native's body.

For a brief moment, I honestly wondered if it wasn't a man on horseback. Whatever the heck it was, I instinctively knew to get away from it as fast as I could. So I ran faster than I had ever ran before and I swear I could feel it breathing down upon me from above in pursuit of me. Strangely I nearly ran right past the pathways to my own house in fear but ultimately turned at that instant and the thing had completely vanished which in a way I found even more terrifying. I ran the rest of the ways home out of breath with my parents wondering what the hell had happened to me. To this day, they believe I saw something but not what I think I saw.  The Wendigo is said in some quarters to be a bad omen and my small town has been plagued with much tragedy over the years, my own family having felt the brunt of some of it.  Every since then and a few other bizarre encounters I've had, I've been fascinated with the supernatural.


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: Raffine on May 12, 2007, 08:53:36 PM
Oh yeah, I've loved everything connected to bizarre stuff like this since I was a kid. I probably believed in bigfoot (absolutely no doubt) and UFOs more than the others. Now... I'm not sure... but it is still fun to read about and watch documentaries about these subjects. I've mentioned more than once here about how for several years as a kid I was totally convinced Bigfoot lurked in the acre or so of woods behind my parent's house, just waiting for the chance to rip me to pieces.  

My sister once told us about seeing what she descibed as a 'scary kangaroo' in a field. We thought it was ridiculous, but I've since read there is a phenomena reported by many as seeing what appeared to be a  "Phantom Kangaroo".  :buggedout:

I agree the depths of the sea is probably the likeliest place where actual 'monsters' may yet lurk undiscovered. That was one bone-ugly shark they discovered a few months ago.

One of the most intriguing 'cryptos' I think may be around is the Thylacine or 'Tasmanian Wolf' or 'Tasmanian Tiger'. These bizarre creatures were canivorous wolf-sized marsupials that were hunted to extinction in the early 20th century but there have been many reports and sighting that suggest a small population may still exist. Thee was some talk a few years ago of attempting to clone a Thylacine from preserved specimens.

(http://cas.bellarmine.edu/tietjen/images/Tasmainian_wolf.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Tasmanian_tiger.gif)




Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: Allhallowsday on May 12, 2007, 09:58:30 PM
Jase, your story is so frightening that people don't want to believe it. 

I voted for Ghosts, because I collect ghost stories, and enjoy discovering them.  I've had a few strange experiences in my life, nothing spectacular, but have heard many many more from a surprising diversity of people, at least a few of which I believe were not "fancies" and like my own experiences, difficult to explain.  There must be many realities and truths that are currently inexplicable.  Though by instinct a bit superstitious, I do not believe in the "supernatural," but rather believe that the "supernatural" is what we have not yet begun to discover. 


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: Dennis on May 13, 2007, 09:50:35 AM
I think that all these things however unlikely, time travel for instance, are not impossible. While eyewitness testimony is always suspect, too many people have reported seeing and having encounters with most of the things on the list to be hoaxers or having hallucinations etc. While no one has come forward with actual proof of the existence of these things the argument against them is usually, I haven't seen it, I don't believe in it, you have no real proof, therefore it doesn't exist. This is the wrong kind of attitude to have about these things, they should be approached with an open mind. Once we run out of mysteries and monsters this will be a very boring world.


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: akiratubo on May 13, 2007, 10:57:48 AM
I wish there were really something wonderous in this world.


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: Dennis on May 13, 2007, 12:36:39 PM
I wish there were really something wonderous in this world.

I guess it depends on your point of view, what's a wonder for some is just an every day ordinary thing for others, that's part of what makes the world go round.


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: JaseSF on May 13, 2007, 01:43:02 PM
I still am haunted, still have sleepless nights, from that experience that happened to me so long ago. Doesn't help I live not far away from where it happened. I often want to think I imagined it or it was some weird manifestation of guilt or whathaveyou. I know it was dark when I saw the thing but I distinctively remember it looked and felt and smelt unnatural ..a rotten egg type of smell. What I remember most was snarling teeth, a furry mane of some sort and a creature that appeared part man (it had a dark-skinned human-like face), part animal. I think my mind was trying to rationalize what I saw to the point I envisioned later it might possibly have been a man on horseback holding an axe  but I don't think that it could have possibly been that in actuality (I've never even seen an actual horse up close)...just it had some of the characters and features that one identifies with the image of a man on horseback.  I ran back home exhausted and completely terrified. I must have looked completely shell-shocked to my parents at the time.


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: RCMerchant on May 13, 2007, 03:12:59 PM
  Me...I believe ANYTHING can happen,did happen,or will happen. Someplace. I believe in different worlds,outside or world...
  Ok...kinda like this: Earth is an atom...which is interlocked with other atoms...and so on and so on,and all these atoms interlock into something bigger...and that "bigger"something is but an atom in another universe of things..and so on and son...it never,ever ends...and is soooo complicated and bizzare and so out  of the reach of our imaginations,that what we consider impposible is commonplace elsewhere,and things fall in and out,skip,jump,and get lost and reappear...as mere biological enities,it would be stupidly arrogent to think we know even a fraction of what it all is,and we willnever know. I don't think death is the end,just annother step into something...different.
      Then again...I'm sure I'm completly wrong! :tongueout:


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: Doc Daneeka on May 13, 2007, 04:38:39 PM
Really RC the universe ends with the planet we recently discovered. There are actually only two life-supporting planets in the universe, (which consists of about 4 galaxies) which lay at opposite ends of it. And that's the end. :bouncegiggle: We're all pretty plain creatures in actuality, like a colony of ants struggling to survive in an enviroment that could kill us all at any time.


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: RCMerchant on May 13, 2007, 07:38:16 PM
Really RC the universe ends with the planet we recently discovered. There are actually only two life-supporting planets in the universe, (which consists of about 4 galaxies) which lay at opposite ends of it. And that's the end. :bouncegiggle: We're all pretty plain creatures in actuality, like a colony of ants struggling to survive in an enviroment that could kill us all at any time.

 Really? How do you know? You just said we just discovered another...and there are not more? How do we Know? Whats beyond that? Does space end? Do you hit a wall? Like Jim Carry on the TRUMAN SHOW? Do you open a door and get to meet God? Cool...I hope he's not a jerk like Scott Glen...more like George Burns would be nice!


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: trekgeezer on May 13, 2007, 08:50:04 PM
I have been fascinated with UFO's since I was about seven years old. I've never actually seen one but they have always held my imagination. 

My mother saw one when I was elementary school and never told anyone about it until it was reported that others had seen it (she was afraid of being called nuts).  My little niece was at the house and my mom went out in the back yard to check on her and heard a strange humming noise that made her look up. She saw a round silver object with a rotating mid-section pass at tree level (maybe 30 feet).  She said it was quite unnerving.

As far as Bigfoot, I lived just about two hours away from Fouke, Arkansas the home of the Boggy Creek monster. It caused quite a stir when I was in high school.

I believe that there is far more that mankind doesn't know than there is that we do know.  (That sentence sounds a bit off , but you get what I mean).


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: DodgingGrunge on May 13, 2007, 08:52:09 PM
Really RC the universe ends with the planet we recently discovered. There are actually only two life-supporting planets in the universe, (which consists of about 4 galaxies) which lay at opposite ends of it. And that's the end. :bouncegiggle: We're all pretty plain creatures in actuality, like a colony of ants struggling to survive in an enviroment that could kill us all at any time.

Forgive me for being curt, but this was a joke, right?

First of all, there are more stars in the universe than grains of sand on Earth.  And many of them are so far away that light hasn't had enough time to traverse the distance and reach our humble little planet.  Stars are grouped into galaxies, of which there are (conservatively) hundreds of billions.  And galaxies themselves are grouped further into clusters.

As for planet detection, our current methods are indirect as they are lost to the glare of their respective suns.  Our methods are inventive and yield some nice information, but certainly nothing conclusive enough to suggest that life does or does not exist in some form.  Subtle alterations to the sun's orbit tells us the size, proximity, and orbital speed of the planet.  And by analyzing changes in the star's spectral graph, we can get an idea of the major components of the planet's atmosphere.

But as to what exactly life needs to survive, we are still blissfully ignorant.  There is an entire scientific field dedicated to finding the answer: astrobiology.  A lot of their data come from unexpected sources of life on our own planet.  For example, there are entire ecosystems thriving on thermal vents in the ocean depths, taking no energy whatsoever from the sun.  When looking for signs of life on other planets, we can't rule something out simply because the atmosphere is different than our own.  On Earth, life was almost extinguished in the Pre-cambrian Period by the arrival of stromatolites, an organism that converted CO2 to oxygen (like trees do today), because oxygen was toxic to the primitive life that existed at that time!

As for the universe wrapping back in on itself, this is a possibility, though one we wouldn't be able to prove for quite some time as our instrumentation lacks the precision to "see" that far.  But if that's the case, really weird quantum dualities take effect.  For instance, there would be two systems for calculating distance (both proportional to the radius of the cyclic dimensions), the results being inversely related to each other but yielding identical physics.  That would certainly make David Witten and Brian Greene happy!  Haha.


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: Susan on May 13, 2007, 09:08:47 PM
i've seen a ufo up close. unfortunately nobody truly believes me - even i myself am always 99% skeptical when i hear of someone elses "ufo" story. Ironic isn't it?

my arguement, however, is that i think it was an experimental military craft. at least...i hope. I dunno, the technology i saw was really....uh...advanced. but all the military choppers that followed it shortly afterward seemed to confirm.

just one for the books i guess.

sasquatch? Think i was in an elevator with him once  :wink:


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: Scott on May 13, 2007, 09:18:32 PM
If these photos don't convince you in ghost then nothing will.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ElVLlci1kzs&mode=related&search= (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ElVLlci1kzs&mode=related&search=)


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: Trevor on May 14, 2007, 02:45:45 AM
 :smile: Hi RC: yes, I do believe. :teddyr:
 
I remember when I was still in primary school (junior high, I think?) and we were told to assemble on the soccer field behind my school one morning. Apparently a strange object had landed there during the night and there were five circles burnt into the field, four small and one large ~ possibly a UFO? I don't know, but there were a lot of military people around and while we could look on, we had to stay well back. This was in 1977, if I remember correctly.

Yes, I do believe in other-worldly phenomena.  :smile:


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: BTM on May 14, 2007, 08:24:24 PM
Well, I have a passing interest in all the subjects mentioned, do I actually believe in any of them?  I dunno..  I think UFOs could be possible, considering how many planets there are in existence and how, at least from a mathematical standpoint, there should be SOME form of life somewhere, but why said aliens would want to travel millions of miles just to sneak around and put metal objects into lonley people they've just had seems a bit inexplicable to me.

Of late, I've taken a "I have to see/experience it to believe it stance." 


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: thwerst on May 16, 2007, 02:48:11 PM
Really RC the universe ends with the planet we recently discovered. There are actually only two life-supporting planets in the universe, (which consists of about 4 galaxies) which lay at opposite ends of it. And that's the end. :bouncegiggle: We're all pretty plain creatures in actuality, like a colony of ants struggling to survive in an enviroment that could kill us all at any time.

only 2 life supporting planets?-hmm with countless billions upon billions of stars out there, only 2 can support life?


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: Derf on May 17, 2007, 12:46:12 PM
I'll second trekgeezer's sentiment: There is a lot more we don't know than we do know. I believe it is pretty arrogant to think that we are the only life in the universe. I don't necessarily believe that aliens are regularly visiting Earth to abduct rednecks, but I would hope that there are other life forms out there. I am a Christian and do believe strongly in the Creator God, but I find nowhere in the Bible that disallows God creating hundreds of life-bearing worlds.

I'll also second DodgingGrunge's idea of sea monsters.

I also voted for a belief in time travel, mostly just so I could claim to travel in time every day: I travel forward in time, one second at a time, along with everyone else.  :teddyr:


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: Doc Daneeka on May 17, 2007, 03:01:07 PM
I was just kidding about "just us and the other guy", but how exactly would time-travel be possible? :question:


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: Mr_Vindictive on May 17, 2007, 05:26:44 PM
I believe in most of the things listed here.

Ghosts - I am not religious.  I do not believe in Heaven nor Hell. I have no reason to believe in the "soul" but I do believe in ghosts.  I've written about this on the board in the past, but here it goes again.  I grew up in a house that had been around since the 30s.  The original owner of the house was known to be a less than kind woman and was a bit of a shut-in, spending almost all of her time in the house.

As a child, I would hear a female voice speaking to me.  It wasn't a soothing voice but the raspy voice of an old woman.  I could never tell what exactly she was saying but it constantly scared the hell out of me.  Night after night after night, for years.  As I grew older, I convinced my parents to let me turn another room in the house into my bedroom.  They agreed, and the voices stopped, and I thought all was well....

My parents ended up moving to another town close by, after I graduated High School.  They kept the house that I grew up in.  Once I was married, they let my wife and I live there for a period of time.  Things were fine until my wife became pregnant with our daughter.  One night she woke up screaming, and trying to shake me awake.  I wake up, and she said that there was someone in the room.  I turned on the lights, and there was nothing unusual.  She said she had seen a woman's head on the bed as if she were on her knees with her chin on the bed.  I figured it was just a bad dream that spilled over into reality.  She finally calmed down and I went back to sleep.

The same thing happened the second night.

The third night I could feel a hot breath on my face and when I opened my eyes, there was someone's face staring right back at me.  This time, it was me who was screaming my head off, trying to wake my wife.  It was the face of an old woman and just as my wife said, she seemed to be on her knees, resting her head on the bed...watching me.

Then, nothing after that for a few nights. 

About a week later, I woke up after hearing the bedroom door slam.  I looked at the door and it was completely open, and the room was unnaturally hot, despite the fact that it was summer.  Also, there was a terribly loud noise coming from the next room which was the living room.  I got up and found that the thermostat on the stand up heater was at the max, somewhere around 95 degrees.  The noise was coming from the television which had been turned on and the volume set as high as it would go.  Not only that, but every light in the room was on.  Lamps, overhead lights, etc.

Soon after, my wife and I started looking at homes.  We ended up moving not long after that.  The house ended up being flooded with about five foot of water during hurricane Isabel a few years back.  It has since been demolished and a new home in it's place.  The new house has not had one bit of paranormal trouble and all seems well.

This makes me think that people can become tied to places after death.  I have no doubt in my mind that the original owner was still inhabiting the house as a ghostly presence.  I've never been so scared as I was when I lived there.  It seemed like the house heard EVERYTHING you said and saw EVERYTHING you did.  I'm damn glad it was ruined during that hurricane. 


UFOs- Just as with the ghosts, I believe I've seen a UFO.  I was about 10 or 11 and was outside playing with my cousin of about the same age at his house.  It was night, probably around 8 or so during July.  We were out in the woods behind his house when we heard a strange humming noise that wasn't quite loud but seemed to be pulsating.  You know that pressure you feel in your head when on a plane?  That's kind of what it felt like, but pulsating.

We both looked up and there was a strange green circle in the sky.  On the edges of the circle was a bright yellow.  It sat there in the sky above us for about two minutes or so before suddenly darting to the right and disappearing.  As soon as it was out of sight, the humming and the pressure stopped completely.

I've mentioned it to people in the past but it always gets passed off as "a meteor".  I've even had someone try to tell me that I had seen "ball lightning".  I know exactly what we saw that night and it was not a meteor and it certainly wasn't ball lightning..although it would be awesome to see some.  My cousin and I still speak of the occurance on occasion.    It's certainly not the type of thing you would forget.


Alternate Dimensions- I've done quite a bit of reading and studying on the String Theory over the years, and I do believe that there are other dimensions out there that we are not aware of.  I feel that everything that has ever happened or ever will happen is already in repeat elsewhere and will happen again...if that makes sense.

Here's a wikipedia article on String Theory: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory)


Strange Creatures- I feel that we know next to nothing about this world that we live in.  As humans, we always need to feel like we know everything and that we are always at the pinnacle of knowledge.  That is not so, and we do not know everything, especially about the creatures that inhabit this world with us.  I would not be surprised to find that Bigfoot does exist or that sea monsters are real.  As was said by a previous poster, we have already found the giant squid which was thought to be a legend for so long.

Time Travel- See my thoughts on String Theory and other dimensions.  I believe that Time Travel is possible, but I don't honestly believe it has been done by us yet.  Could it have been done in some other reality or has it been done in our future?  Are there people where now who are from another reality/dimension or the future?  Who knows.



So now everyone here thinks I'm insane.  I highly recommend that everyone go to the non-fiction section of their local bookstores and buy The Men Who Stare At Goats by Jon Ronson ( a book I keep meaning to review on this board), and The Mothman Prophecies by John A. Keel and then wonder whether or not I'm crazy.


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: RCMerchant on May 17, 2007, 07:24:29 PM
 I suppose it's safe for me to tell WHY I am interested,and read up on this stuff,without being thought of as bonkers (at least as far as beliefs in paranormal things go)... :wink:

 Ghosts...When I was about five,me and my older brother Mike were playing out in a field across from our house in Wappinger Falls ,NY. My brother was calling me to him from the other side of the field,so I started running across tosee what he wanted...outta the corner of my eye,I notcied someone running alongside me,a little in back of me. I turned my head and it was a girl,about the same age as me,with pigtails and wearing glasses and somekinda summer dress. I stopped to say "Hi!"...and she was gone! I ran twice as fast to my brother,and when I got to him he said "Where that girl go?" Yikes! That creeped us both out,and we ran home!
  Another time....When me and the boys were renting a tiny house here in Lawton,before I met Tara Sue, Me,my brother Richie,and the boy's Aunt Corky were goofing with an old Ouijia Board. We used to hear lotsa oddball banging and explosions(?) from the small attic occasionally...so we thought we'd talk to this board...kinda like a half joke thing. Anyway, in the middle of this nonsense, a weird,overwhelming feeling of dread came over me-and I almost started to cry(!). Never touched it again! Soon after,REALLY weird stuff started to happen... Once I was agruing with my ex, and the boys were standing there,as was my brother and Corky,when across the kitchen, all the cereal boxes, a can of nuts and bolts,some Ajax,and various other odd junk FLEW off the top off the fridge,like some invisable hand was p**sed and swiped them off! The same day,my brother was fixing to jump in the shower,and he was b***hin about something,and he was shoved into the shower stall and smacked his head. Niether times were any of us drinking booze.

UFOs- When we lived in Paw Paw,on Dead End Road,out in the boonies...I was about  8 or 9...me and my brothers and my sister Brenda were all playing outside...it was in the afternoon...one of us noticed a BIG zeppilin shapped...thing...only a lot narrower, coming over the house. It was quite low. It made no noise,was gray,no windows or undercarriage...real oddball. It was cruising quite slow. It was BIG! Of course we started hooping and hollering,and Mary Jo,my stepma,was looking out the window and saw it too. She told my Dad about it later,and he laughed and said we were all full of sh!t.
   I think I mentioned once about the two me and my brother Richie saw one day chopping wood . Two silver,shiny things,about the size of dimes,were moving overhead,and I mentioned them to my brother. He looked and said "Yeah. Right. Therye birds. You read too many books." I said "Weirdest birds I ever saw." He looked again and went-"Holy s**t! What the F@ck?!" The two were clipping right along,and did simeltanious flips...then BAM!! They started going like a bat outta hell! We lost view for a few seconds of they going over the roof of the house,so we ran over to the other side..and the ywere gone to site. Right then,some numbnuts drunkie freind peeled in to the drive way and said!" Hey,What you got to drink?" We  just stared at each other,and didn't tell him about it...he'd have thought us nuts.
   As far as most other unusual phenomenom...I'm with Skaboi...I think anything and everything is possible somewhere at sometime. I don't believe UFO's are from outer space,and I don't disbelieve that they are... I just don't know.


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: JaseSF on May 17, 2007, 07:57:22 PM
I sort of suspect it's all tied together somehow. UFOs, alternate dimensions, ghosts, Bigfoot, Wendigo and all the rest of it.  At least I suspect some of it is.


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: Scott on May 17, 2007, 09:18:53 PM
RCMerchant I liked the little girl story that was creepy.

When I was a kid about 8-9 years old in Horseheads, N.Y. we use to sled ride down this hill every winter that was about 1 block from my house. The house was vacant and up for sale. One winter the door underneath the porch was open in what was like a storage area. Inside was some kind of chair that was in half and red was all over it. Some thinking it was blood and we all went back outside and up in the second story window was a hairy hand that broke right out of the window. We ran so fast and never looked back. The window was fine days later when we dared look at the hill again. Hoax or Collective imagination?

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Last year we were getting our home ready for sale and having already moved into our new home the old place was empty and my mother had just passed away the night before and I had nothing better to do that night than to finish cleaning things up. Started hearing knocking on walls, floors, and windows which never happened before. The hair stood right up on end like in the movies. The sounds were coming from different parts of the house. Would have run outside, but I just kept thinking stay and wait and see what happens. Nothing else happened and I hurried the rest of my cleaning and drove off. It sends chills up me just writing about this.

Two weeks later we buried my mom in her home town of Painted Post, New York. The reason it was two weeks later was the ground was to hard and they had to wait till spring and they put her in a storage vault near the entrance of the cemetary on the hill. Conditions up there got better and she was buried on the same day that her grandmother died 53 years ago which was also my moms birthday. Her grandmother died on her birthday. The strange thing was that she always told us she wanted to be buried in the same cemetary on the big hill where her grandparents where and my brother found out from the caretaker that there was a plot saved for her by her grandparents all this time. Her grandparents raised her because her parents got a divorce when she was young and both got remarried and had kids of their own, so the grandparents raised her. She didn't know that they prepared a place for her 53 years ago. We arrive in town that evening and there is a near blizzard outside. The next morning is cold and the wind chill made it even colder. During the burial the reverend paused for a moment for a moment of silence and the winds picked up and the wind gust doubled and everyone looked at each other, but didn't say anything. The timing was so strange. My brother took one picture that day that showed three figures around the grave site as if they were waiting for our mother. We figured they were her grandparents and her aunt whom was in the fourth grave at the site. They were very close. There is so much to this story that I can't put it all here tonight, but you get the idea.

Just wanted to add that the day we drove up we were about 15 miles from Painted Post (6 hour drive for us) my sister had to use the bathroom and we didn't know where to stop so my brother said lets stop at the McDonalds that we all use to go to when we were kids in Horseheads, N.Y., and we all agree, so we stop, she goes in, and comes running out saying that our father is in there. All of us are shocked as this is the first time we (brothers/sister) had been together in 20 years and we run into my father who we haven't seen but once in 30 years. My sister had stayed with him before over the years, but had lost contact with him for a long while, so she knew what he looked like. It was my brothers idea to stop at McDonalds and he didn't want anything to do with him. We agreed to meet the next day after the burial and we had lunch. Haven't seen nor heard from our father since.

These are not all the accounts to this story, but it kinda confirms for us at least that there is definately something supernatural out there. I have never been a skeptic because I believe all things are possible, but this was like something was saying that everything is alright now. I have no doubts and this was a special gift to all us kids that my mother would have taken the time to do. She was a supernatural person and a psychic beyond her own understanding. We haven't heard from my mom since those two weeks after her own passing. I feel that much was resolved in the afterlife and she's off to better things.


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: Mr_Vindictive on May 18, 2007, 07:45:48 PM
I still am haunted, still have sleepless nights, from that experience that happened to me so long ago. Doesn't help I live not far away from where it happened. I often want to think I imagined it or it was some weird manifestation of guilt or whathaveyou. I know it was dark when I saw the thing but I distinctively remember it looked and felt and smelt unnatural ..a rotten egg type of smell. What I remember most was snarling teeth, a furry mane of some sort and a creature that appeared part man (it had a dark-skinned human-like face), part animal. I think my mind was trying to rationalize what I saw to the point I envisioned later it might possibly have been a man on horseback holding an axe  but I don't think that it could have possibly been that in actuality (I've never even seen an actual horse up close)...just it had some of the characters and features that one identifies with the image of a man on horseback.  I ran back home exhausted and completely terrified. I must have looked completely shell-shocked to my parents at the time.


Jase, 

I just stumbled upon this article via ForteanTimes.com.  Sounds partly like what you saw:

http://www.starcourier.com/articles/2007/05/17/news/local3.txt (http://www.starcourier.com/articles/2007/05/17/news/local3.txt)


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: JaseSF on May 18, 2007, 10:01:14 PM
What I saw was more like a combination of drawings/pictures I've seen people make of Bigfoot and the Wendigo. I have to admit I only caught a brief glimpse of it in shadows during the night before running from it like a bat out of hell. Kind of like a combination of these two images but it was different than that too. Imagine the face and head of the Bigfoot  placed on the Wendigo's body only the whole thing being very dark in color and shade. It was huge...as large as a man on horseback. I've already described the rest. I do find it interesting though that many native Indian tribes used animal furs to hide under to get in close to their prey while participating in their hunt.  Also I do fear seeing it again. I have for as long as I can remember.

(http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/bigfoot-face.jpg)

(http://www.stuffoflegend.com/Ambar/07Religions/2GodsofAmbar/WingedMessenger/Wendigo/wendigo.jpg)


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: AnubisVonMojo on May 19, 2007, 01:25:23 AM
The only thing I truly believe in is the possibility that anything can exist. Reality is all about perception and perception only ends when where we're willing to let it end. I've always enjoyed the idea of limitless realities existing within mere vibrational differences of each other. I've had too many moments in dreams that have mirrored actual moments in my life that happened later on to believe what anyone tells me about how dreams are nothing more than your mind firing off chemical reactions. I accept science over religion, but I don't think science is absolute all of the time either... a little too hippie?  :drink:


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: Scott on May 19, 2007, 05:08:45 AM
It's true that the skeptic (scientist) is so smart they are dumb. Anytime you have a lock on "reality" your missing something. We only have 5 senses and they are very limited.


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: RCMerchant on May 19, 2007, 06:54:31 AM
 The works of Charles Fort (the BOOK of the DAMNED,LO!,NEW LANDS,WILD TALENTS),though written decades ago,are still fascinating! The man was so far ahead of his time...a true original. I just started rereading LO! a couple of days ago....I HIGHLY recommend him to anyone interested in  the unusual. He doesn't state ANYTHING as pure fact...but opens up your mind to new possibilities....kinda oils your gears! :thumbup:


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: Mr_Vindictive on May 19, 2007, 09:02:12 AM
The works of Charles Fort (the BOOK of the DAMNED,LO!,NEW LANDS,WILD TALENTS),though written decades ago,are still fascinating! The man was so far ahead of his time...a true original. I just started rereading LO! a couple of days ago....I HIGHLY recommend him to anyone interested in  the unusual. He doesn't state ANYTHING as pure fact...but opens up your mind to new possibilities....kinda oils your gears! :thumbup:

I agree 100%.  Despite my interest in the paranormal and occult, I had never really heard of Charles Fort until Peter Johnson here got me hooked on Fortean Times.  It's a magazine that faithfully follows along where Fort left off.  They cover strange creatures, anomalous incidents, strange sightings, psychic encounters, etc.  I try to pick up a copy wherever I can find one which is damn hard to do as it's a British publication.

Just last night I spent hours on their site reading about the Antikythera Mechanism, the Buddhist Hell, the #23, and how Glasgow's Necropolis is actually the world's largest freemason symbol in the world.  Fascinating stuff.


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: AnubisVonMojo on May 19, 2007, 09:38:47 AM
My fiancee has chosen to fill her basic human need for order and stability by becoming a practicing Buddhist. One of the religion's more complex sutras is something called the Diamond Sutra that's apparently reserved for followers who have expanded their minds and selves to an elevated point, so it's basically an advanced lesson (at least from what she tells me). In really simple terms, it pretty much tells followers that you should never accept anything as truth, question everything around you as different shades of gray and never black or white, and never accept anything as it's taught to you but instead learn about everything so you can draw a conclusion that's entirely your own.

It's funny because I've been telling her the same thing since we met, but after 8 years she only starts  listening to it when somebody important says it.  :tongueout:

Anyway, it's good to know there are so many like minded individuals on the Board to relate to. Living in NYC we're surrounded by millions of people who all seem to have their minds set strictly on what they were told to believe by other people and it's frustrating sometimes that seemingly none of them have the realization that with so many different variations on life there is no right or wrong. The condemning of others for not following your logic or values system is unsettling, but it's good to be able to escape that and come here instead.  :cheers:


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: Snivelly on May 19, 2007, 10:11:10 AM
The Fortean Times is excellent because the articles they run are always well-written and researched.  One thing I've learned from the net is that there are a lot of so-called 'paranormal' sites that are overrun with disinfo and people more interested in selling New Age books than actually promoting discussion of anything mysterious.  (Personal pet peeve rant over.)



Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: JaseSF on May 19, 2007, 11:00:46 AM
Researching further the native tribes of my home province and noting the fact most of them are thought to have branched off from the Algonquian native tribes and are thought to have carried over some of the same beliefs, I really think it's very possible I saw the Wendigo.

Here's a pretty good link about it:

http://www.wyrdology.com/cryptozoology/wendigo.html (http://www.wyrdology.com/cryptozoology/wendigo.html)

And here's another link. This is pretty darn frightening stuff.

http://dinojoe.8m.com/crypto/windigo.html (http://dinojoe.8m.com/crypto/windigo.html)


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: BoyScoutKevin on May 21, 2007, 04:19:14 AM
The Fortean Times is excellent because the articles they run are always well-written and researched.  One thing I've learned from the net is that there are a lot of so-called 'paranormal' sites that are overrun with disinfo and people more interested in selling New Age books than actually promoting discussion of anything mysterious.  (Personal pet peeve rant over.)



I agree with snivelly, at least as far as the "Fortean Times" goes. Not the least because I know some of the people responsible for the "Fortean Times." And they are a great bunch of guys.


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: akiratubo on May 22, 2007, 06:18:22 AM
([url]http://www.stuffoflegend.com/Ambar/07Religions/2GodsofAmbar/WingedMessenger/Wendigo/wendigo.jpg[/url])


GAH!  Monsters with long fingers really creep me out.  I don't know why.  Could be because they resemble spiders' legs.  (Or ... am I afraid of spiders because their legs resemble long fingers?)


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: Jack on May 22, 2007, 08:11:30 AM
I used to find all that stuff very fascinating, but after being interested in it for a long time, I've become a complete skeptic. 

UFO's - I believe there are other planets out there in the universe that have intelligent life, and some of it is probably much more advanced than us.  Some of it would simply blow our minds if we ever discovered it because it's beyond our imagination.  However I don't believe they've visited us.  So much of the UFO stuff I see on the numerous TV shows has convinced me that the UFO believers play it unbelievably fast and loose with the evidence - for instance, much of the stuff in various famous reports never really happened and a lot of reports contain numerous factual errors.  When you've got "fans" of something doing the investigating, you do not get stuff that's worth listening to.  I'm much more interested in the scientific stuff, like if there was ever life on Mars and if there's currently life on that moon of Saturn that supposedly has a water ocean under it.


Bigfoot - you'd need hundreds if not thousands of them to have a viable breeding population.  We've discovered tiny populations of gorillas in the deepest darkest reaches of Africa;  if there were a bunch of Bigfoot critters running around the US, we would have found them by now. 

Ghosts - oh, who knows.  There may be some alternate realm beyond death.  I don't believe in it, but it's possible. 

This stuff all makes for great movies that I really enjoy, but I just don't believe it's true. 


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: Scott on May 22, 2007, 10:24:44 AM
I know what Jack is talking about, but I really think many give up and become skeptics. The reality is that most of us really don't look into these things and simply can't get around enough to spend time looking into such subjects. How many of us have actually spent enough time in the Pacific Northwest or the Himalayas to actually have a good feel for it. How many of us have hung around the Roosevelt Hotel to see if Marylin Monroe would show up? How many of us spend time around the Bay of Fundy to watch for underwater UFO's. How many of us go to latin America to look for the Chupacabra? How many of us have tried to seek out the Hollow Earth? How many have gone to vortexes or been involved with government experimentation? How many of us have blocked out things that aren't suppose to happen when in reality your neighbor is a reptilian shape-shifter. We've all read and simply sorted it out in our minds or seen a movie/documentary about them, but we really aren't in a position to know. Same goes for any story or news event you see on TV. Your not there and we simply are not in a position to know, so many of us give up and conclude that something doesn't exist or isn't true.


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: JaseSF on May 22, 2007, 11:27:10 AM
I suspect there's hundreds, perhaps thousands, of paranormal happenings that go unreported because there's often no proof so people don't talk about it. What happened to me was so terrifying and happened so fast the only thing I thought about was my survival.


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: JaseSF on August 12, 2007, 04:52:40 PM
Here's two links to Evening Telegram Ghost Story Columns. Both are pretty terrifying and the second one actually details an encounter with a possible Bigfoot.

http://www.thetelegram.com/index.cfm?sid=48572&sc=86 (http://www.thetelegram.com/index.cfm?sid=48572&sc=86)

http://www.thetelegram.com/index.cfm?sid=45106&sc=86 (http://www.thetelegram.com/index.cfm?sid=45106&sc=86)

The author of these articles has penned a book called "Haunted Shores".  It looks like something I'm definitely interested in checking out.

(http://www.tidespoint.com/books/haunted_stories.jpg)

http://www.tidespoint.com/books/haunted_shores.shtml (http://www.tidespoint.com/books/haunted_shores.shtml)


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: HappyGilmore on August 12, 2007, 08:34:16 PM
I would say I'm curious about Ghosts/UFO's.  Have been for the past 15 years or so, since I was about 8.  Really took an interest around 11/12. 

I am somewhat curious about the Bigfoot/Yeti.  Not enough to research too much, but just enough to not disbelieve either.

Too many weird things happen that we either don't know a thing about, or just can't be explained.


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: indianasmith on August 12, 2007, 09:58:41 PM
Belief is a favorite theme of mine.  First and foremost, I believe in Jesus Christ, the Son of God.  I believe the Gospels are an accurate and reliable account of His life, death, and resurrection.

I believe in "Sea monsters", because the depths of the oceans are vast and unexplored, and anything could be down there.

I would desperately like to believe in Bigfoot, but the huge obstacle there is the lack of remains.  If these creatures are as intelligent (or more so) than chimps and great apes, they might could remain hidden - but somebody would have plowed up a skull or skeleton by now.

I used to believe in Nessie, but I think modern research has (sadly) just about ruled her existence out.

I don't believe in ghosts as lingering spirits of the departed, but I do believe in both demonic presences and "psychic echoes" of strong human emotions that can take on ghost-like form.

I certainly believe that many people have seen strange things in the skies, and my mind is open to the possibility of aliens, although their presence is highly improbable.  The conditions needed to sustain life on this (or any other planet) are so incredibly fine-tuned that for them to happen twice is almost a statistical impossibility.

Psychic abilities - I am fairly open minded about the possibility, but there are an awful lot of charlatans out there.

I also believe that Donald Trump may be the AntiChrist . . . .  :lookingup:


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: zombie no.one on August 12, 2007, 11:34:33 PM
Nice thread, some good stories...(and by 'stories' I don't mean to discount the credibility of anything written, I just can't think of the right word...'encounters' maybe?)

Something that happened to me about about 2 years ago now, at around dusk time near my friends house in the countryside, I saw some dark black figure with no distinguishable features at all, yet somehow appeared to be dressed in medieval clothing -and I'm not sure why I would think that, I don't know much about medieval things- standing completely still in the middle of a little 5-6 metre long driveway leading to a house, and it was just staring at me as I walked down the lane past where the house was. So I turned to my friend I was walking with, who was a few steps behind me, and motioned with my arm to where I had been looking, he looked and immediately said "wow, it's a figure", almost as if he couldn't stop himself from saying it. And this happened at dusk, 8-9pm kind of time in the summer, but this figure standing no more than 2-3 meters away was completely pitch black from head to foot. We'd walked past the same driveway earlier in the day and there was definitely no statue or whatever in the middle of that driveway. So we just carried on walking. always wondered what that could have been...the weird thing is, it wasn't particularly scary as you might imagine, because whatever this thing was it had a very intense kind of warm, almost vulnerable aura to it... very strange. I wish we'd stayed longer to investigate but it was slightly freaky and we just kept walking as you probably would do...



Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: Fishasaurus on August 13, 2007, 12:33:13 PM
I've seen gosts myself, and of course I am in charge of all sea and lake monsters for the Str. Lawrence Seaway Zone of the Global Fish Conspiracy.


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: ER on March 24, 2020, 11:01:08 PM
I can simplify this topic by saying: nothing unreal exists, and there is no supernatural, only the preternatural.

As to exactly what's real under the blue dome of heaven from ghosts to slenderman to the Loveland frog, I'll leave that to others to figure out, but all that is is part of nature, whether we understand it or not, and all that is not real, does not exist.

Boom. That clear everything up?  :teddyr:

PS But I acknowledge scary incidents do happen, and innnnnn fact give me a minute and over in the diary thread I will post this entry about something borderline superna...er, preternatural that happened to me a quarter-century ago, if anyone cares to read it. Still scares the frak out of me when I think of the creepy sound I'll tell about there.

There really are certain things in this world left alone, that I will cheerfully admit.


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: RCMerchant on March 25, 2020, 04:01:28 AM


I also believe that Donald Trump may be the AntiChrist . . . .  :lookingup:

Whoah! Indy predicted the Anti-Christ was coming 9 years before he became president!  :buggedout:


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: ER on March 25, 2020, 10:46:31 AM
You know what bothers me about all the things RC listed up there in 2007 is it's very easy for me to dismiss most or all of those things and say no, they're not real, that BS stories account for it all, but the thing is, people I consider credible have told me about their own experiences with.....ghosts, spirits, strange things in the sky, with deja-vu in foreign places (which I've felt), and I have to think, are they lying to me, did they slip into a temporary delusion, or is there truly this.....other realm that sometimes intrudes into this one (or our realm intrudes into it)?

That's what gets me, that people I trust have told me about experiences that defy easy dismissal, and then impose on me the burden of questioning their credibility versus the nature of what I'd like to think is solid reality.

There was my dad's account of setting down a file of papers behind him before a meeting, being alone in this immense foyer area, no one with him, no one could have approached within fifty feet, marble floors, echoes, and yet somehow that file vanished into thin air while his back was turned, and he never found it.

There's my friend's account of being out walking and seeing this "mist figure" form out of a runoff grate, coalesce into a small twisted humanoid shape, look at her and then scamper off. If she was lying to me she picked an odd tale to start practicing lying, because she's always honest with me and not terrible imaginative. Do I believe her and set aside sanity? I....don't know.

There were those lights in the sky we used to see all the time when I was a kid and we lived near an airport, they'd hover and drop and rise and change color and seem to dance around incoming jets, and none of us had a clue what we were seeing.

And my friend's dad and his mystical experiences with coming to see his drug addiction in terms of spiritual warfare, literal demons ruining lives through drugs, and suddenly getting visions of these beings, rabid dogs and snakes and malformed angels, contesting for the human lives they were destroying through drugs and vices. All I know is it terrified him straight.

And of course the one I always cite because it happened to me, the old lady in the room at my grandma's care center after Grandma had a stroke. I walked down the hall and this old lady was in a room surrounded by flowers and cards on the wall and I walked back up the hall half an hour later and the room is totally empty and I was told no one had been in there for some time. Were the staff punking me for fun? Beats me.

Shrug. OK, what's it all matter? Really. You know? If there are event like these we still live life every day paying bills and seeing movies and having kids and going to funerals and....so what, right?

And you know what else? We're all going to die one day and my money says to our last breath we're never going to be any closer to figuring this stuff out.

And neither will the last human on this planet someday.


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: indianasmith on March 25, 2020, 02:44:22 PM
I believe in God, Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit, the Scriptures, and that Lulu's makes the best bacon cheeseburger in Texas!

Oh, and my most controversial belief - I don't think the 1998 American version of Godzilla was that bad!


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: Alex on March 25, 2020, 03:15:56 PM
Indy, I have no problem accepting your belief in the great, invisible sky dad. With some effort, I can turn a blind eye to you thinking 'Sucker Punch' could ever, possibly be better than 'Flash Gordon'.

But that version of Godzilla... *shudder*  :tongueout:


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: Trevor on March 25, 2020, 03:19:08 PM

Oh, and my most controversial belief - I don't think the 1998 American version of Godzilla was that bad!

Agreed. :cheers:


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: Alex on March 25, 2020, 03:20:03 PM

Oh, and my most controversial belief - I don't think the 1998 American version of Godzilla was that bad!

Agreed. :cheers:

Right, thats it. You pair just made The List!    :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: Dennis on September 08, 2020, 06:02:21 PM
I believe in God, Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit, the Scriptures, and that Lulu's makes the best bacon cheeseburger in Texas!

Oh, and my most controversial belief - I don't think the 1998 American version of Godzilla was that bad!

I believe in God the Father, Creator of heaven and earth and of all things, visible and invisible, never had a bacon cheeseburger from Lulu's so I'm  going with the patty melt from Jim's Burgers, best in California, and I think the 1998 version of Godzilla is, in its own way, a good movie


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: RCMerchant on September 08, 2020, 06:12:07 PM
I believe I'll have another smoke!
ER-
 BREATH. Breath.



http://youtu.be/PobrSpMwKk4 (http://youtu.be/PobrSpMwKk4)


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: VenomX73 on September 08, 2020, 06:21:32 PM
(https://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/863/543/d3e.gif)

as far as time travel... it think that's impossible!

how would you set "time and space coordinates" ?????
how would you interact with dimensional "space-time" if you could?????


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: ER on September 08, 2020, 08:12:37 PM
Time travel is real. For instance I used to be in 2019 and now I'm in 2020. How is that not time travel?


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: VenomX73 on September 08, 2020, 09:05:37 PM
well that is true you did travel though time... forward, like all of us in this dimension.

as far as science fiction time travel and setting a time line and coordinates????
no, I don't think it could ever be done. Even in the far future...

you have to be going the speed of light to achieve time distortion correct? So if we ever do have flying machines that can do that you would still need to calculate and distort space time... then setting coordinates would be a whole other huge problem.

then again, who am I to say lol... I just liked to listen to Art Bell back in the day. I'm just having fun with this  :smile:

(https://dbakevlar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/timemachine.gif)



Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: RCMerchant on September 08, 2020, 09:51:17 PM
^ Think about physics and Einstein's theory. There may be alternate realitys.
That's what real smart people say. I think I will believe these folks before anyone else. I'm not real smart. But I know stupid when I hear it.  Time can be bent. Well, that's what I believe, at least.  :lookingup:
I may be just wrong.


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: ER on September 08, 2020, 09:56:15 PM
I think of events that might draw time travelers, something maybe like President Kennedy's murder, and if so, when we look at pictures of the crowd that day, we might be seeing time travelers there.

(I once read a story that said the Titanic sank so fast because of all the time travelers gathering there, weighting down the ship.)


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: RCMerchant on September 08, 2020, 09:59:58 PM
I think of events that might draw time travelers, something maybe like President Kennedy's murder, and if so, when we look at pictures of the crowd that day, we might be seeing time travelers there.

(I once read a story that said the Titanic sank so fast because of all the time travelers gathering there, weighting down the ship.)

Funny you mention the Titanic!

This story came out before the sinking of the Titanic!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wreck_of_the_Titan:_Or,_Futility


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: VenomX73 on September 08, 2020, 10:13:30 PM
this is a fun topic!  :thumbup:

alternate realities and 'bending time'...? well yeah, but that's like the bad movies we watch, one would need to create an artificial wormhole to travel to different times and dimensions...

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qS4ZiYPcPUU/Wt22gkuXX4I/AAAAAAAACVA/HbpenGisktAgt6MqWLJ8h85UZS5So1_oQCLcBGAs/s1600/download%2B%25282%2529.jpeg)

science fiction time travel? - Imo .01% chance. Its fun to talk about though  :smile:

we (humans) cant cant even agree on polities let alone build a time machine lol


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: RCMerchant on September 08, 2020, 10:32:05 PM
Of course we cant't build a time travel machine! But there may be bends in the time. I really can't explain it. I'm not that good at explaining s**t.


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: VenomX73 on September 08, 2020, 10:41:02 PM
like Event Horizon...
now that's something to think about, yeah that may be true  :thumbup:


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: VenomX73 on September 08, 2020, 10:59:42 PM
Sea Monsters - only 35 percent of the ocean has been explored...

my guess would be YES "Sea Monsters" (giant undiscovered sea creatures) probably do exist!

(https://inteng-storage.s3.amazonaws.com/img/iea/lV6DvPxqOx/sizes/kraken_resize_md.jpg)

also, if they ever do find a Megalodon I DO NOT want to see it lol!


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: Alex on September 09, 2020, 12:11:52 PM
On the subject of time travel.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/physicists-prove-time-travel-possible-by-sending-particles-light-into-past-1453839 (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/physicists-prove-time-travel-possible-by-sending-particles-light-into-past-1453839)


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: claws on September 09, 2020, 12:23:00 PM
I believe in ghosts, ufos and bigfoot because I've seen all three with my own eyes, and with witnesses.

Not so much in time travelers caught on old pictures or old film footage.

... and I find the Reptilian conspiracy theory hilarious.



Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: VenomX73 on September 09, 2020, 01:03:58 PM
http://youtu.be/KkCCoyuI_bw (http://youtu.be/KkCCoyuI_bw)


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: VenomX73 on September 09, 2020, 05:59:10 PM
On the subject of time travel.

[url]http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/physicists-prove-time-travel-possible-by-sending-particles-light-into-past-1453839[/url] ([url]http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/physicists-prove-time-travel-possible-by-sending-particles-light-into-past-1453839[/url])


I remember watching a show years ago about this...
but it was a different guy I recall. I cant find the video... I will keep looking.

also - Claws, care to tell your story on the UFO?  :thumbup:


Title: Re: Do You Believe?
Post by: claws on September 09, 2020, 10:14:45 PM

also - Claws, care to tell your story on the UFO?  :thumbup:


Posted this before in another UFO related thread, also started by RC  :teddyr:

I filmed an UFO with our video cam on our way home from vacation in Italy in the mid-90s during a late afternoon rainstorm. The UFO had multicolored lights and was slowly floating from right to left over a highway. People stopped their cars and got out to take a better look. My footage wasn't very detailed because of severe rainfall but one could still make out the shape and some of the blinking lights. And yep, the tape containing the footage got lost over the years.

A few years later while waiting on a bus in a small village I saw a silver disc shaped UFO hoovering next to a church tower. After about 45 seconds it zoomed away with incredible speed.