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Title: Why?
Post by: KYGOTC on May 15, 2007, 02:57:23 PM
Heath Ledger has been casted as the Joker in the next Batman movie.

(http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/9894/heatsq3.jpg)


(http://bifsniff.com/images/franks-blog/heath-joker.jpg)

Its just not doin' it for me.





How could they do such a CRAPPY casting job? Baman Begins was just so COOL, And then, prettyboy Heath Ledger is anounced to play the manic homicidal clown prince of crime. Why not Robin Williams, or Mark Hamill, Adrean Brody? (spelling error?)


Man, they had better be able to pull this off, thats all I got to say.


Title: Re: Why?
Post by: DistantJ on May 15, 2007, 03:04:53 PM
Nobody will beat Jack Nicholson.

Btw, you might want to change the title of this thread to something relevant to it's content to get people's attention.


Title: Re: Why?
Post by: LilCerberus on May 15, 2007, 03:08:58 PM
Nobody will beat Jack Nicholson

Why?

Btw, you might want to change the title of this thread to something relevant to it's content to get people's attention.

Why?


Title: Re: Why?
Post by: Pilgermann on May 15, 2007, 03:25:53 PM
Those are some weird lookin' fake photos.

I'm not forming an opinion until I see what he really looks like in character.


Title: Re: Why?
Post by: DistantJ on May 15, 2007, 03:26:23 PM
Quote from: LilCerberus
Why?

Quote from: Family Guy
Because you touch yourself at night


Title: Re: Why?
Post by: KYGOTC on May 15, 2007, 03:30:45 PM
Those are some weird lookin' fake photos.

I'm not forming an opinion until I see what he really looks like in character.

Eh, Im still not expecting much.


Title: Re: Why?
Post by: Menard on May 15, 2007, 05:44:45 PM
How about nominating an actor who would be better in the role?

I nominate Matt Frewer


(http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9882/e99f13e0hs5.png)

Yes, he was the original Max Headroom.


(http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/4177/castshowfrewermo0.jpg)


A more recent photo
(http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6237/mattfrewerft5.jpg)


He is 6' 3" (he seems taller), so he has the height to play the Joker. He can be one of the creepiest characters or can go completely over the top. Seems to fit.


Title: Re: Why?
Post by: soylentgreen on May 15, 2007, 07:40:46 PM
I can see Frewer...he's a bit gaunt now(have ya seen DAWN OF THE DEAD?) but he's got the right chops for it.

The problem is that the studios will always cast roles based on putting "a$$e$" in the seats rather than with an eye towards who works(don't get me started on the I AM LEGEND coming the end of this year!!!). 

My vote would go to John Glover though.  While clearly born to be part of BATMAN's Rogues Gallery, they squandered him in SCREWmacher's hatefully s**tty BATMAN & ROBIN.  He also did the voice of The Riddler on the animated series, a role he could just as equally excel in.

(http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/7423/jokerkilljokebe3.jpg),(http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/415/johngloveryy6.jpg)


Title: Re: Why?
Post by: Yaddo 42 on May 15, 2007, 07:46:59 PM
I say give Ledger a shot, I'm not surprised they put a big name in the role, maybe he'll surprise us. Until they pull a Batman and Robin or Batman Forever with this version of the franchise, I'll let it slide. Remember how reluctant people were to give Michael Keaton a shot as the Dark Knight.

I could see Frewer at an earlier point in time, but not now from Hollywood's perspective, he's a character actor and TV guest role actor these days.


Title: Re: Why?
Post by: KYGOTC on May 15, 2007, 09:43:14 PM
I can see Frewer...he's a bit gaunt now(have ya seen DAWN OF THE DEAD?) but he's got the right chops for it.

The problem is that the studios will always cast roles based on putting "a$$e$" in the seats rather than with an eye towards who works(don't get me started on the I AM LEGEND coming the end of this year!!!). 

My vote would go to John Glover though.  While clearly born to be part of BATMAN's Rogues Gallery, they squandered him in SCREWmacher's hatefully s**tty BATMAN & ROBIN.  He also did the voice of The Riddler on the animated series, a role he could just as equally excel in.

([url]http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/7423/jokerkilljokebe3.jpg[/url]),([url]http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/415/johngloveryy6.jpg[/url])


Who did he play in Batman and Robin? I'd go watch it again to find out, but.........oohhhh......please don't make me watch it again.


Title: Re: Why?
Post by: soylentgreen on May 15, 2007, 11:58:48 PM
Who did he play in Batman and Robin? I'd go watch it again to find out, but.........oohhhh......please don't make me watch it again.

He was Dr Jason Woodrue, a non mutated version of his Floronic Man persona....one of those 'floating' DC Comics characters that appear here and there.  In BATMAN & ROBIN he's reduced to a sleazy botanichemist or something with a plan to start a bidding war over his creations between the cartoonishly cliched assortment of dictators and generalisimos assembled at his lab.  If this plot point reminds you of another super-hero film series flushed into the East River, it should. 

Squandered!  Squandered I tell you!


Title: Re: Why?
Post by: Ash on May 16, 2007, 05:38:39 AM
Y'know...
I think Heath looks pretty darn cool as the Joker!

Granted, he'll probably look a bit different in the movie.
They'll dress him up with better makeup and clothes...etc...

I say he's a great choice.   :thumbup:

Let's see if he has what it takes to face Batman.


Title: Re: Why?
Post by: DistantJ on May 16, 2007, 05:44:08 AM
(http://www.kino.de/pix/newspics/GALERIE/180704_4.jpg)

Jack Nicholson. Again.


Title: Re: Why?
Post by: RCMerchant on May 16, 2007, 06:09:40 AM
 Too bad Klaus Kinski isn't still alive.
 I think William DeFao would be cool!


Title: Re: Why?
Post by: trekgeezer on May 16, 2007, 07:07:26 AM
Why not? I trust that Christopher Nolan has a different take on the Joker and that it will be scary as hell, the same way he made Batman scary.  Ledger is a good actor and I think he will do a good job.


Title: Re: Why?
Post by: akiratubo on May 16, 2007, 04:17:10 PM
I was hoping Nolan and Co. would learn from their mistakes on Batman Begins (a movie I would give a C-).  However, casting Ledger as the Joker leads me to believe they haven't.


Title: Re: Why?
Post by: AnubisVonMojo on May 16, 2007, 05:03:26 PM
I was hoping Nolan and Co. would learn from their mistakes on Batman Begins (a movie I would give a C-).  However, casting Ledger as the Joker leads me to believe they haven't.

Paraphrasing a classic cliche, one person's mistake is another person's masterpiece

... not mine though, as I gave Batman Begins four-out-of-five stars. Very Good but not Excellent and sadly not enough to wash the fecal tastes of Joel Schumacher out of my proverbial mouth. I'll keep my fingers crossed for this new Joker though. You know what they say; don't knock it till you've tried it!  :teddyr:


Title: Re: Why?
Post by: BoyScoutKevin on May 16, 2007, 06:40:27 PM
Nobody will beat Jack Nicholson.

Btw, you might want to change the title of this thread to something relevant to it's content to get people's attention.

For me, nothing beats the television series "Batman" with Cesar Romero as The Joker.


Title: Re: Why?
Post by: AnubisVonMojo on May 16, 2007, 06:49:04 PM
For me, nothing beats the television series "Batman" with Cesar Romero as The Joker.

"Who are you?"
"I'm Cesar Chavez."
"Why do you look like Cesar Romero?"
"Because you don't know what Cesar Chavez looks like."

 :wink:


Title: Re: Why?
Post by: Snivelly on May 16, 2007, 07:35:51 PM
I'm not sure how Ledger will do either, I don't dislike him as an actor but he wouldn't have been my first choice either.  I really enjoyed Batman Begins, I thought it was a great way to breathe some life into what was quickly becoming a bad series. 

I did prefer Nicholson's Joker to any others, but I have a soft spot for old Jack.


Title: Re: Why?
Post by: RCMerchant on May 17, 2007, 05:45:11 AM
Conrad Veidt in the MAN WHO LAUGHS (1924)...notice a resembelance...? :wink:

(http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/8417/050701conradveidtwe0.jpg)

Bob Kane MUST have seen this movie....!


Title: Re: Why?
Post by: KYGOTC on May 17, 2007, 09:19:58 AM
Conrad Veidt in the MAN WHO LAUGHS (1924)...notice a resembelance...? :wink:

([url]http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/8417/050701conradveidtwe0.jpg[/url])

Bob Kane MUST have seen this movie....!


Actually, I think I read somewhere that The Man Who Laughs was actually Kane's inspiration for the Joker.


Title: Re: Why?
Post by: AnubisVonMojo on May 17, 2007, 10:20:48 AM
Indeed it was. DC actually put out a very good one-shot a year or two ago about the Joker's origins titled "<u>The Man Who Laughs</u>" acknowledging the movie's influence on Mr. Kane.


Title: Re: Why?
Post by: KYGOTC on May 22, 2007, 06:44:03 PM
I found this on wikipedia..........It's worse than I thought.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/78/First_pic_of_heath-joker.jpg)


Title: Re: Why?
Post by: daveblackeye15 on May 22, 2007, 10:20:12 PM
I'm going to give Ledger a shot. Jack was great.


Title: Re: Why?
Post by: BoyScoutKevin on May 29, 2007, 07:20:21 PM
I'm going to give Ledger a shot. Jack was great.

So was Cesar Romero.