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So much for the Hogzilla movie ...

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The story here ...

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8PBKB5G0&show_article=1&image=large (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8PBKB5G0&show_article=1&image=large)

SOME PIG!

I'd be curious to see some photos that aren't quite so perspectively iffy.

It was the same when that photo of Hogzilla was first being circulated. There was only one photo published, which made the piggy look much bigger than it actually was.

Oh Jeez. Montgomery, Alabama. I lived there for about five years. An interesting photo op is the street sign at the intersection of Jefferson Davis Street and Rosa Parks Avenue.

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When you move to Montgomery people familiar with the city don't ask you "Gee, how do you like living in Montgomery?", they ask "Gee, how long do you think you'll be able to stand to live in Montgomery?"  :smile:

 I agree on the perspective thing. The kid is sitting much farther back than the picture would like you to believe.

Amazing to think there could be hogs the size of sofas roaming loose in fairly populated areas yet people are convinced there couldn't be anything like Bigfoot.   

That thing, even though the pic is misleading, is enough to make me not want to go camping anytime soon.  My kids might look like tasty snacks to that creature.

Here's the website, it's been up and down do to traffic ....

It's working now.

http://www.monsterpig.com/ (http://www.monsterpig.com/)

10" 7"?  Funny what forced perspective will do - that pig looks a whole lot smaller hanging from the loader.

Haven't we known about the existence of hogs for quite a while though?   :smile:

Well, some people say we've known about Bigfoot for awhile now too.  Most of the Native American tribes that were here before we were have stories about them.

 I was checking out the website...alot of folks are p**sed...REALLY p**sed,that the kid killed such a fine creature. Others think it's jim-dandy. I dunno if I woulda shot it or not. I gave up on hunting years ago...I just didn't see any sense in blowing away deer and rabbits. Yet,again...I have no problem helping farmers butcher pigs or cows. So I'm kinda wishy washy about it myself. Whatta you guys think? :question:

For me the sticking point is that he admits to having shot the creature multiple times (eight?) over several hours.  Not 'good' hunting.  Yes he did follow thorough on his responsibility (to a wounded animal) and finished the job - but it seems to me that he was either a really poor aim or he was not using the right weapon for the game he was after.  Either way: not humane, not 'sporting' according to any hunters I know and not brag-worthy.

It was a feral pig: an escapee, not a wild species.  As such, he was not doing anything different than what any hog farmer ultimately does in killing the hog (other than the actual method).

I was wondering about that....I don't know anything about guns, I have nothing against responsible people owning them, and I would own one myself, but isn't the gun the kid was using a strange choice for a hunting weapon? 

If you're going hunting, it should be for something you plan to eat.  I'm against trophy hunting, but if you're going out to blow Bambi away, save me a roast.

He was using a powerful handgun.  However, something that large would warrant the use of a high-powered rifle.  A 30/06 or .300 magnum rifle at least.  Either of those, putting a shot into the head or heart area, should have been able to finish the hog off.  The problem with any handgun is that they cannot match the velocity of a rifle.

One problem with shooting something that large is hitting a vital organ.

Raffine, my aunt has managed to live in Montgomery for about twenty years. But now that she's getting divorced, who knows if that will last.

Snivelly, to back up what Andrew was saying, that is an extremely power handgun, people have been hunting hogs with large caliber pistols for a while, but the gun is part of more recent trend toward ever larger and more powerful handguns. I think they are refered to as "super magnums". AFAIK the trend seems to have started with a revolver in a caliber known as the .454 Casull back in the late 80s. It was featured in the film Alien Nation. Guns like this are also often advertised as backup or defense guns for bear attacks in Alaska. At least this revolver has a decent barrel length to it. I've seen articles and ads for guns like this but with short or even snub-nosed barrels, often with large muzzle compensaters or vent ports on top of the barrel to try to counteract the muzzle rise during the recoil.

I have shot a .50-caliber pistol (a Desert Eagle). I have a bit of a hard time believing that, even in a hunt-friendly culture, anyone would turn an 11-year-old kid loose with one of these monsters. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but those handguns pack a huge whallop and are hard for experienced adults to control, much less a boy. In my (limited) experience, I hit what I aimed at, but there was a several-second lapse as I brought the pistol back down from the recoil and recovered from the tremendous noise (even through my ear protection) and muzzle flash before I could even really begin to think about firing it again. Plus, the ammo for the handgun I shot was expensive; again, I would not send a kid out with a huge handgun whose rounds cost more than a dollar apiece.

i'm skeptical of this.  He is suppose to have killed it himself, but that would entail dragging the body back by himself.  NO way that kid could drag that body.

On there self promotion-buy-our-pictures-and-t-shirts website they show them getting the hog with a tractor and bucket.

As for the pistol ... I'm not sure a kid could shoot a .50 cal repeatedly and hit anything. A 50 cal pistol has some serious kick to it.

Another site I visit has some speculation about whether this is real or not too, based on the size of the gun.  A few of the gun owners there say that a .50 bullet should have left huge exit wounds on the hog, and if you look at the pics there don't seem to be any. 

Funny, i just got this email forward at work today and i love to debunk these emails

read this
http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/hogzilla.asp (http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/hogzilla.asp)

Only two people saw the hog huh? Yeah, highly believable. If someone really did catch something that big you can bet your sweet ass they would have called the local news and done everything to make a buck and get famous instead of taking a snapshot

it was too big to fit in the freezer so he buries the head in an undisclosed location seperate from the body? Yeah right. If the entire hog doesn't fit in your deep freezer you pass it along to friends and family after it's butchered

i call BS on this story

I have friends from my Montgomery days that lived there for almost twenty-five years before finally moving  on to Wetumpka.
For film fans: Wetumpka is where Tim Burton shot much of BIG FISH (which fits in nicely with the BIG PIG theme of this thread).

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                                  A Big Fish, But Not Tim Burton's BIG FISH

Keith Olbermann's sub is about to do an expose on this threat to Hogzilla's throne!


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So does Jack Hannah, on many of the points mentioned above.

The only upside to this story is that it would make a fabulous B-movie

hogzilla

it has a ring to it. at everyone's scared of wild boars - remember old yeller?

There is plans of one, really from the first Hogzilla in Ga. so this one is "Son of Hogzilla" or "Hogzilla II" or the "Return of Hogzilla" or "Hogzilla - Undead" oh you get the idea.

don't be such a ham

So much for all the excitement:

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/stories/2007/06/01/0601monsterpig.html


It was a farm pig, and from the article sounds like a fairly tame one too.  I'm seriously p**sed that someone  went out to "hunt" a domestic pig.    :hatred:

R.I.P. FRED

There once was a piggy named Fred.
Who was said to be tame and well fed.
But then a young Alabamian
Fired his pistol (which went "BLAM!") and then
Poor old tame Fred was real dead.

LOL!!!!!  Karma.    :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:

Too funny, looks like they are busted as faker shooting pet pigs.

They talked to the taxidermist that was contracted to stuff the head shoulders on NPR. He said the pig's neck was 54 inches around and the shoulders were 74.

They plan on touring the head around at hunting shows or some such thing.

Yeah I'd heard while I was away again it was a canned hunt, kinda drains the excitement out of it, record critter or not.

BTW, Raffine, I love that fish image you posted, where did you find it? Does it have a name?

So they took somebody's pet, put it in a fenced-in enclosure, and let the 11 year old shoot at it with a .50 cal pistol until he eventually killed it?

Hmmm.  Not exactly the kind of stuff my family does for entertainment.

I'm not against hunting, in fact I can understand that the challenge of stalking and killing a wild animal with a rifle, handgun or bow can give someone the same satisfaction I get out of target shooting with these same weapons. When I saw this on the TV news I was lead to believe that the boy had stalked this animal and killed it with several shots from a handgun in a short period of time, also that he had adult backup armed with rifles. I read the article in this thread about the hog being a domesticated pig, almost a pet, named Fred, placed in a fenced enclosure and then shot repeatedly over a 3 hour period. This is not humane, or hunting, it's certainly not sport. Here is a large pig, used to being around people, he probably spent the final hours of his life unable to figure out why people who looked just like the ones who gave him sweet potatoes and played with him were now hurting him. Fred wasn't hunted, he wasn't even executed, he was tortured to death. The boy's father said they didn't know Fred was a domesticated pig, maybe so, but I have to say that I believe the person responsible for this travesty has earned a place in hell  :hatred: :hatred:

That is very sad. Pigs are very intelligent critters....jeez...that's...very...sad. Ugh. How patheticlly warped are these people? Is getting there name in the news so dam important? I can picture it" HEY! Looky here,Clem! Sez har theeze folks gotta big ol' pig and kilt it! Hell! Fred is biggeren that old hawg! Lets kill 'em! Yeeehaaa!"Loser rednecks. Sick basterds.

I Googled "Big Fish" and that was one of the first images that came up. I tried looking it up again to find out more about it (the artist seemed obsessed with fishes vomiting up other littler fishes) and the image now comes up linked to this thread! A modified version comes up on a Colorodo State "Fishery Science" class from 2006, but it's not the one I originally found.  :question:

Another unsolved mystery here at Badmovies.org!

These "enclosed hunts" are disgusting.  I've got nothing against hunting, but you need to match your wits against nature's, not putting an animal in a fenced in area.

Probably get a lot of bacon out of the guy.  And spare ribs.

There has already been one monster pig/hog type novel and movie. Razorback, released in 1984, set in Australia, about a giant boar that's a cross between a feral hog and a wild one. It's got some good moments, the one where the hunter realises that this animal is going to tear a hole in the corrugated steel siding of a farm building just to eat him is one. The film was nominated for, and received several awards. It's a good movie, but I enjoyed the book a lot more.
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I always loved that cover, though the movie was deep into b-movie territory.  This is one of the films that my mom's video (she worked there, not the owner) would never rent out the VHS and she would bring it home for me.  Been years since I saw it, though I do have the VHS in my collection.  It is set in Australia, right?  I seem to remember that the limited resources and remoteness of the location worked in favor of the story.

Hmm, I saw this in a daily local newspaper the other day. I'd have to say I don't much believe this. My father had a few good things to say about it that have persueded me into believing it completley isn't real.

First off, he said, that if there were pigs that big roaming around, then someone would have saw one before. Also, the article reads 'If the claims are accurate', meaning the weight/height etc, so it isn't solid fact. And that the gun they claimed to used , had only recently been turned into a handgun, or some thing like that. And would be hard to get, and is heavy to hold while running three hours. Also, pointed out the gun in the picture looks very much like a paintgun that he is holding. Also said some other things.

We actually were planning to write a letter to the newspaper saying all the things we pointed out about the bogus story, and I think we just might, and to see what they say. And my take on it is that the newspaper I read it in, which is up here in New England, they probably didn't go all the way to Alabama and actually saw the pig with their own two eyes and were certain it was real. Mayeb this picture was sent to them, or they heard it through another dimwit newspaper or reporters. I is probably photoshopped or something like that. People do everything with those darn computers now. Anything for a story though, right?

And hogs and pigs never ever get that big. All of a sudden a new "humungo-pig" species appears out of nowhere? I don't think so.