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Title: The Thing
Post by: Goji_girl on June 24, 2007, 05:46:47 PM
alright, I've seen bad movies but this movie is just terrible! This movie is from the 80's and apparently, people's eyes explode like paintballs! It's about some alien thing taking over people's bodies and turning them into something really, REALLY different.

Anyone else see this film? I'm trying to find a scene on youtube


Title: Re: The Thing
Post by: daveblackeye15 on June 24, 2007, 05:57:20 PM
This isn't John Carpenter's 'The Thing' right? Because if that's what you're thinking of you've heard wrong.


Title: Re: The Thing
Post by: Shadow on June 24, 2007, 05:59:11 PM
Indeed. Carpenter's version is widely regarded as a classic and one of his better films, though of course, personal tastes will vary.


Title: Re: The Thing
Post by: Zapranoth on June 24, 2007, 06:07:00 PM
This movie does NOT belong in the "Bad Movies" forum -- suggest it be moved...   That movie is classic!   It's one of the best of the ultra-gory 80's tension-builders.


Title: Re: The Thing
Post by: ulthar on June 24, 2007, 06:14:00 PM
Indeed, it has been said it may in fact be THE BEST horror movie ever made.

Just watched it again last night, matter of fact.

This has GOT to be a troll.


Title: Re: The Thing
Post by: Allhallowsday on June 24, 2007, 08:18:22 PM
I don't remember eyeballs exploding like "paintballs" in John Carpenter's THE THING, one of those rare "remakes" that disproves the old addage.  What a great friggin' movie!!!   :twirl: :thumbup:  Here's where most of Kurt Russell's latter day fans got on board.  Uhm, there aren't that many movies entitled THE THING.  Troll . . .  but may not be aware of it! 


Title: Re: The Thing
Post by: Andrew on June 24, 2007, 08:26:33 PM
"The Thing" by John Carpenter is probably my favorite science fiction/horror film.  However, I understand that not everyone is going to like it as much and that some people will even hate the movie.  However, I am also confused about the exploding eyeballs bit and wonder if you are talking about another movie?  Do you mean the scene when everyone is strapped to the chairs and MacReady is testing their blood and then Palmer starts changing?

John Carpenter's "The Thing:"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084787/


Title: Re: The Thing
Post by: Bmeansgood on June 24, 2007, 08:33:28 PM
I was shocked when I read this post, Shocked I tell you!

I truly love this movie.  The thumping soundtrack still makes me shiver everytime I hear it.

Why, oh why did John Carpenter lose his gift for making scary movies!


Title: Re: The Thing
Post by: Allhallowsday on June 24, 2007, 08:40:36 PM
"The Thing" by John Carpenter is probably my favorite science fiction/horror film.  However, I understand that not everyone is going to like it as much and that some people will even hate the movie.  However, I am also confused about the exploding eyeballs bit and wonder if you are talking about another movie?  Do you mean the scene when everyone is strapped to the chairs and MacReady is testing their blood and then Palmer starts changing?
There are a bunch of movies with "exploding eyeballs" no?  Like SCANNERS...hmm maybe I'm mistaken?


Title: Re: The Thing
Post by: Oldskool138 on June 24, 2007, 08:40:45 PM
This movie does NOT belong in the "Bad Movies" forum -- suggest it be moved...   That movie is classic!   It's one of the best of the ultra-gory 80's tension-builders.

Yeah...I was a little shocked to see this in the Bad Movies section.  This movie rocks on HD DVD!  :hot:

EDIT:  But if it's not you bag, that's okay.  My buddy's a big horror movie fan but was turned off by the gore.


Title: Re: The Thing
Post by: RCMerchant on June 24, 2007, 09:11:09 PM
Goji Girl-you posted in "movies that you own that no one has heard of" thread,that everyone you know has not hear of this movie you have called the THING. Now...let me get this straight....who are these people "you know"? Are they mongoliods? Do they own TV sets? Are they imaginary? You also state you can't find a clip on youtube...I found LOTS...and quite easily! Now-is THIS the film yer talking about?

        [youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Q-5VSqzEk


 (ok...I think Goji Girl is really Wyre Wizard! It's the only logical answer! If I'm wrong...well...I'm wrong!)


Title: Re: The Thing
Post by: daveblackeye15 on June 24, 2007, 09:54:35 PM
Yeah the exploding eyeballs part threw me off, but the second half of the description sounded like The Thing.

Great movie, I love the effects.

You know I don't mind if someone put this here. I mean I pretty muc call the "GOOD" movie board the place where we CAN put stuff like COMEDIES and DRAMAS, while it's perfectly okay to put a movie like 'The Thing' here because it fits the idea of 'bad' movie while it's in fact a good movie.

Whatever.


Title: Re: The Thing
Post by: Neville on June 25, 2007, 09:47:26 AM
Also one of my favourite horror films ever, and yes, John Carpenter's masterpiece. I discobered it during the late 80s on TV, and couldn't take my eyes off the screen. The pace is slow, but that's part of its charm. When you finally realise, everybody is a suspect and there are surprises at every corner.

As for the gore, yeah, it's disgusting, but also extrangely realistic. I mean, if someday I see a dog transforming into some space creature, I'm sure it will look very similar to that. Rob Bottin is a genious.

As for the woman who started the thread, I don't think she's a troll. As I said, the film has a very deliberate pace, and that alone will put off a lot of people. And there's the gore level, as you all said. It is rather high, even for today's standards.


Title: Re: The Thing
Post by: Amontillado on June 25, 2007, 02:08:12 PM
John Carpenter + Kurt Russell = one kick ass movie! That includes Escape from L.A.! Say what you want about it, I still think it was awesome. Even the basketball scene, because ball was a big bonding point between Carpenter and Russell when they first met. The Thing has been my one of my top ten movies since I first saw it when I was eleven...from the very back of the living room. I'm a huge John Carpenter fan in general. My father would show me horror movies all the time (much to the chagrin of my mother). He was a huge Carpenter fan, but he never knew it. My favorite movies growing up were/are the aforementioned The Thing, They Live, Big Trouble in Little China, Escape from New York, Prince of Darkness, etc. To my dad they were just good movies or Kurt Russell movies (another one of our shared favorites is Used Cars one of the funniest movies ever filmed). Carpenter's my favorite director with Cronenberg and Henenlotter rounding out the silver and bronze.


Title: Re: The Thing
Post by: Neville on June 25, 2007, 03:54:24 PM
If being a John Carpenter doesn't deserve a karma point in this board, nothing else does.  :thumbup:


Title: Re: The Thing
Post by: Amontillado on June 25, 2007, 03:57:07 PM
Hail Zod!


Title: Re: The Thing
Post by: Goji_girl on June 25, 2007, 04:40:57 PM
Okay, maybe I was wrong. But the part with the guy's head falls off when he's on the operating table threw even me off. I haven't seen it in a long time but I did remember it being... well, to my standards... just wierd.


Title: Re: The Thing
Post by: Neville on June 25, 2007, 04:49:22 PM
+1 for bravery. And I'll stop giving away karma points for today, before it becomes addictive.


Title: Re: The Thing
Post by: Zapranoth on June 26, 2007, 01:47:21 AM
Okay, maybe I was wrong. But the part with the guy's head falls off when he's on the operating table threw even me off. I haven't seen it in a long time but I did remember it being... well, to my standards... just wierd.

Correct me if I'm wrong, because it has been a while, but I think his head actually launches off.  It gets forgotten in the scuffle for a bit, and it sprouts eyes on stalks, little buggy legs, and it scuttles off under the furniture like a crab dropped into the bottom of your fishing boat.  It then tries to sidle away, very disturbingly, while their backs are turned, until it gets a good dose of flame.

Dang, what a movie that is.  It was incredibly harrowing to watch, for me, back in the 80's (when I was a teenager).  It is a great masterpiece.  It builds slowly, and has periods of tension building punctuated by absolutely horrifying violence and gore.    It ranks up there with Alien, and with Roger Federer's forehand.


Title: Re: The Thing
Post by: RCMerchant on June 26, 2007, 05:47:07 AM
Okay, maybe I was wrong. But the part with the guy's head falls off when he's on the operating table threw even me off. I haven't seen it in a long time but I did remember it being... well, to my standards... just wierd.

I apoligize for thinking you were Wyre Wizard,but I was kinda shell shocked that you had never heard of the THING.! As for not liking it...to each his own. I can't stand ROCKY HORROR,which for most cult movie fans,is something of a masterpiece....Again,I really am sorry! Welcome aboard! :smile:


Title: Re: The Thing
Post by: Oldskool138 on June 26, 2007, 06:45:33 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, because it has been a while, but I think his head actually launches off.  It gets forgotten in the scuffle for a bit, and it sprouts eyes on stalks, little buggy legs, and it scuttles off under the furniture like a crab dropped into the bottom of your fishing boat.  It then tries to sidle away, very disturbingly, while their backs are turned, until it gets a good dose of flame.

Dang, what a movie that is.  It was incredibly harrowing to watch, for me, back in the 80's (when I was a teenager).  It is a great masterpiece.  It builds slowly, and has periods of tension building punctuated by absolutely horrifying violence and gore.    It ranks up there with Alien, and with Roger Federer's forehand.

The "head-bug-thing" is from The Thing.  The first time I saw that scene was probably the only time I could actually feel my flesh crawl.  I wanted to turn away but I just couldn't.  Now, I think it's one of the all-time greatest gore moments in horror movie history.

I like the scene where Wilford Brimley's character is smashing up the radio room and then the following scene where they elect McCready as their leader.  The movie has a perfect blend of suspense, gore and tension...Plus a great feeling of claustrophobia since there's nowhere to run in Antarctica.  They either kill the monster or it kills them.


Title: Re: The Thing
Post by: ulthar on June 26, 2007, 04:15:26 PM

 They either kill the monster or it kills them.


Or they kill each other.   :wink:


Title: Re: The Thing
Post by: Allhallowsday on June 26, 2007, 05:22:00 PM
I give Goji Girl alot of credit, as did Neville, and karma likewise.  You are most definitely entitled to your opinion, but apparently you'll find many 'round here jealously guarding our beloved movies, good or bad.  Dissenting opinions make for real discussion.   :thumbup: 

BTW most of us have seen THE THING.   :wink:


Title: Re: The Thing
Post by: Goji_girl on June 26, 2007, 07:14:26 PM
I've seen the thing when I was about six... mostly with a pillow covering my face but I sat through it. After a while I couldn't help but to laugh. Again, I watched it alone in a trailer and the neighbors kept yelling at eachother... damn those neighbors for making me soil myself! And it was about twelve at night. So yeah, I got nightmares for a week.


Title: Re: The Thing
Post by: Snivelly on June 26, 2007, 07:23:19 PM
I give Goji Girl alot of credit, as did Neville, and karma likewise.  You are most definitely entitled to your opinion, but apparently you'll find many 'round here jealously guarding our beloved movies, good or bad.  Dissenting opinions make for real discussion.   :thumbup: 

BTW most of us have seen THE THING.   :wink:

I think because Goji_girl is one of the younger members here (as far as I can tell) she might not know that many others who have seen The Thing, although I'm sure that will change as soon as someone decides to remake it as well.


Title: Re: The Thing
Post by: Amontillado on June 26, 2007, 07:46:22 PM


...to each his own. I can't stand ROCKY HORROR,which for most cult movie fans,is something of a masterpiece....

I hate that movie, too! Phantom of the Paradise was so much better. I also can't stand the Doors, Robert Plant (i.e. not a huge fan of Led Zeppelin), and the Grateful Dead (though that has nothing to do with movies).

Dissent makes this country great!!  :cheers: 



Title: Re: The Thing
Post by: Dennis on June 26, 2007, 08:43:32 PM
This is just my opinion, I think that the thing should be enjoyed in the proper order

First
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The story should be read.

Second
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The original movie should be watched.

Third
(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q122/DENNISDURWARDHAMMOND/thing_shot2l.jpg)
The remake should be enjoyed

Each is a classic in its own way, my daughter and I found that the original movie with Kenneth Tobey and James Arness to be the most frightening of the three.


Title: Re: The Thing
Post by: Just Plain Horse on June 26, 2007, 09:18:59 PM
Great topic, great movie...

To Gojigirl: Yeah, it's weird but worth a look. I'm no fan of gory movies- probably one of the lesser reasons I think most zombie movies are crap- but I felt the gore helped show what the monster was capable of... shapeshifting must hurt like a b***h! No wonder it's always p**sed off.

To RCMerchant: Thanks for posting only my favorite clip of the whole dang film! The suspense, the effects, and Keith David's attitude- an underrated actor, in my opinion. I really felt sorry for Windows at the point he gets a little too close. That Venus flytrap head transformation is a real fX masterpeice.

To DENNIS: I've read the story and seen both movies, and they're all worth it.


Title: Re: The Thing
Post by: ulthar on June 26, 2007, 10:06:08 PM
Goji_Girl, I owe you an apology.  I completely misunderstood the "tone" of your original post.

One thing I find interesting, though, is all this reference to "gore."  THE THING is an intense flick, on many level, but really, there's hardly any blood in it at all.  The creature does some wierd stuff, true.  But in my opinion, the 'gore' in this movie is tame compared to say KILL BILL or any number of gore-fest slasher films made since.

The reaction at the time THE THING was released was that it was so gory, and I wonder if some of that reactionist psychology is driving the reputation.  Bottin made some wonderfully wierd, creepy, over-the-top effects, but are they really what you'd call GORY?

A few gore moments I can think of:  (okay, spoiler warning JUST IN CASE)




The dog'shead ripping open
The alien autopsy, I suppose, but again, compared to things we see nowadays, not really That Bad
Copper's arms being bitten off

When Windows' head got munched, you don't really see much of anything.  It's the THOUGHT of that THING biting someone's head and slinging them around that makes it repellent.  I contend that nowadays (and maybe with the remake) we'd see crushed skull, brains flying everywhere, a headless body twitching and about 17 gallons of blood.

Carpenter commented on the DVD that the audiences reacted very strongly to the close-up of Windows slicing his thumb for the blood test.  Yeah, it's intense, but is that really so much after 20 years of slasher flicks?

THE THING is a masterpiece - easily my favorite movie of all genres.  But gory by today's standards?  I see ALMOST that bad on TV these days.


Title: Re: The Thing
Post by: Zapranoth on June 27, 2007, 12:25:47 AM
A fair contention...  I guess I didn't use "gore" in its literal sense.  Or you could say I misused the word.

I meant that it was "harrowing."   As in, hard to take, in places.  Tense.  And (especially given how young I was when I saw it) it had that rarest sort of awful-but-still-have-to-watch-it quality that others have commented upon.

There were some gross things in the Kill Bill movies -- parts are just brutal.  But c'mon.  When Beatrix

oh, dang.  Spoilers:

When Beatrix plucks out Elle's remaining eye, and leaves her to die horribly, flailing blindly in the trailer with the black mamba, we all jumped out of our chairs and cheered.   But you don't get that kind of reaction in Carpenter's movie... you feel like you're locked in a camp in Antarctica along with the rest of the humans, whoever those are! 


There are other nasty/gross/bloody effects these days, but for whatever reason (and I lack the film expertise to explain this), the violence in the remake of The Thing had a particular psychological effect (a strong one).


Title: Re: The Thing
Post by: RCMerchant on June 27, 2007, 05:03:34 AM
WOW!!!! THAT WAS COOL! The spoiler thing...I mean! It was like reading a message in invisable ink! I feel like the MAN from U.N.C.L.E. or something! HeeHee!!!  :cheers: