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Title: Why ain't the Martian yellow?
Post by: Menard on June 29, 2007, 05:50:04 PM
I know that bad movie webmasters have their user names show in yellow, even one who is an embarrasment to this forum, but why doesn't Tars Tarkas show up in yellow?

The Martian does have a website which certainly fits, in my opinion, even if it is IE unfriendly (http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Tongue/mockery-022.gif) but it was probably the Kaldanes who were responsible for that.

Just curious


Title: Re: Why ain't the Martian yellow?
Post by: Andrew on June 29, 2007, 09:43:33 PM
Most of the b-movie webmasters in the group are others who I have known for a while and also worked with.  I'd never had a chance to browse Tars Tarkus' site before; I think it might be hosted on a shared server and has some network or server latency issues.  Even right now, I'm getting a good ten second lag between request and page load.

The webmaster group is mainly intended as a way for me to control access to the webmaster board.  That's where we coordinate roundtables and such.  Since Tars Tarkus has not been part of those efforts, I'd never even considered it (and, yes, I had never asked the gent).

It's not intended as a snub or weird "oversight" - I'd just never considered it and don't know his thoughts either.


Title: Re: Why ain't the Martian yellow?
Post by: Menard on June 30, 2007, 08:41:59 PM
I think it might be hosted on a shared server and has some network or server latency issues. 


As of about 15 minutes or so ago, I couldn't help but think about what you said about server latency issues while I was not able to access this site. (http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Tongue/mockery-022.gif) (yeah, I know there is a difference, but I couldn't help but rib you anyway)

If the Martian wants, he can put his site on my hosting (yes, it is shared) for free. I have a one year account with ANHosting which, due to 3 months free and a rebate, I got for a ridiculous price. I have one small site still in the building phase hosted there, so someone might as well take advantage of it. It is Unix.


Title: Re: Why ain't the Martian yellow?
Post by: Andrew on June 30, 2007, 08:45:09 PM

As of about 15 minutes or so ago, I couldn't help but think about what you said about server latency issues while I was not able to access this site.

Eh, see the trouble tickets section.  I use a very good host, though doing so costs a bit extra.  I'm pretty happy with the network reliability from them.  If it ever goes downhill, the site will move to another good host.


Title: Re: Why ain't the Martian yellow?
Post by: Captain Tars Tarkas on July 02, 2007, 04:41:30 PM
I'm actually hosted with Dreamhost, as they are cheap.  There are delays on the main page related to the front end program I use (mambo) but sometimes it goes rocket fast, which meas some of it is also the webhost (they were fine for the first year, but as soon as I renewed they started having all sorts of problems.)  I haven't upgraded to the new versions of Mambo because that is usually a pain and takes several hours to fix if there is a problem, like there was last time I did it.  But as this is the second report of the website being wonky with IE in a few weeks, I'll probably upgrade it soon.


Title: Re: Why ain't the Martian yellow?
Post by: Menard on July 02, 2007, 05:16:13 PM
I just got a look at Dreamhost's prices; that's cheap? :lookingup:

ANHosting is $6.95 a month, and only on a year prepay, not two years. If you go to http://hpr.castironhostingreview.com/anhosting.html and sign up through that link, using the coupon code as well, you get three months for free, plus a $50 rebate.

You can check other hosting plan coupons and rebates through that same site at http://hostingplanrebates.com/default.aspx


Title: Re: Why ain't the Martian yellow?
Post by: Andrew on July 02, 2007, 06:46:31 PM
Egad but that is serious overselling.  2500 GB/Month transfer?  250 GB space?  $6.95 a month?  EGAD.


Title: Re: Why ain't the Martian yellow?
Post by: Menard on July 02, 2007, 07:06:43 PM
Egad but that is serious overselling.  2500 GB/Month transfer?  250 GB space?  $6.95 a month?  EGAD.


Don't tell me this is the first time you have seen a hosting provider offer that much space and bandwidth? Take a look at what some of the others are offering as well. They will say upfront that the average website is not going to use anything close to that. If someone does, well they have it available, but they aren't going to dedicate a hard drive to a customer as it is shared hosting.

I don't look at the space, so much, as the bandwidth and other features, not to mention their service and uptime.

If you want to see a nice hosting plan that does not oversell, check out http://www.zzhosting.com/ . With the multi-domain account, you can have a separate cpanel for every domain you have hosted; unlike my HostGator account, and others, where you get one cpanel and all other domains are add-on domains off of the hosted domain. With the ZZHosting service, you also get web hosting managers you can use to let others host their sites on your account.

I am not an affiliate with ZZHosting, I have just been taking a look at their service with interest in getting an account myself.

With the media files I am collecting for the site, I can easily eat up that 20GB space, plus.

I did not go with ANHosting for a second account because they would not give me a discount for having multiple accounts.

What I'll probably end up doing is using the ZZHosting for my domain, and use the ANHosting space for the media files; or at least for some of them.


Okay, I'm finished going off topic. :tongueout:


Title: Re: Why ain't the Martian yellow?
Post by: Andrew on July 02, 2007, 07:11:41 PM
I've seen plenty of oversellers and it seems to be something that is becoming the industry standard.  However, actually coming anywhere near one of those limits is pretty much impossible.  The only thing I could think would work is a site with large files that are downloaded via straight HTML.  Any sort of software like Mambo, Nuke, a forum, or whatever would cause the site to breach the overselling host's TOS due to CPU or memory usage and the site would be shut down.


Title: Re: Why ain't the Martian yellow?
Post by: Shadow on July 02, 2007, 07:14:48 PM
I moved the Graveyard to AN hosting back in November, though the plan I signed up for wasn't quite that big. I think it was 100 GB of space and 1500 GB of transfer. I see they increased the allotted resources since then (overselling as Andrew said). Even with the large amount of pics, sounds and video clips that go into each of my reviews, that's enough space to last me for quite some time. My only probelm with AN Hosting is that they are owned by Midphase and tend not to warn anyone about any upgrades or maintenance they plan on performing to their servers. All of a sudden BAM, the site is out. I send in a trouble ticket and about four or five hours later the same moron responds with a curt, mostly useless answer. Thank goodness this has only happened twice. What seems like crazy overselling to me is Dreamhost and how they increase your allotted space and bandwidth every week. :buggedout:


Title: Re: Why ain't the Martian yellow?
Post by: Menard on July 02, 2007, 07:27:22 PM
I had been with Cirtex, but my domain and several sites on it got hacked in no time; one of the reasons being that their security is non-existant. Apparently some hacker was using my domain for a phishing scam, so they shut down my domian and never contacted me.

I ended up with HostGator and have had no problems yet, and the response times are so much better on my sites.

One of the things I look for is a lack of bulls**t upfront. I am not talking about overselling, but advertising a price, then finding out, like with Dreamhost, that the price advertised is only with a two year prepaid plan.

I don't like prepaid plans, at this point. Had I prepaid with Cirtex for an entire year, well, I would have lost my investment as there was no way I would have stayed with them.


Title: Re: Why ain't the Martian yellow?
Post by: Captain Tars Tarkas on July 02, 2007, 08:19:09 PM
I just got a look at Dreamhost's prices; that's cheap? :lookingup:


Well, it was only $10 for the first year,  and $10/month now.   I never had any problem with them until right after the year renewal.  They also made it so you could switch to month by month payments.  But I'll probably be switching to another host when this term runs out in six months.  Dreamhost is pretty honest when they have trouble, but they are for people who want cheaper hosting and not 1000% uptime.  I also never got anywhere near the CPU limit, but a large message board would have.  They have since removed the limit for the plan I am on.  I'll mostly be moving in search of a better deal, as the hosting gets more cutthroat and deals get better.  Currently I am sitting on 2872 Gigs bandwidth a month, and I only use around 10 thanks to shutting off image leeching (stupid myspace!) but as I add movies to the older reviews that will probably go up.  My first hosting was with Ritech, but I got to the point where I was at the limit of their plan bandwidth wise and jumped to Dreamhost due to the $10 deal.


Title: Re: Why ain't the Martian yellow?
Post by: Menard on July 25, 2007, 01:15:15 PM
Talk about overselling; check this out: http://www.lypha.com/


Title: Re: Why ain't the Martian yellow?
Post by: DodgingGrunge on July 25, 2007, 01:55:44 PM
My only probelm with AN Hosting is that they are owned by Midphase and tend not to warn anyone about any upgrades or maintenance they plan on performing to their servers.

I have a MidPhase account and am quite satisfied with it.  But you're right, maintenance isn't announced with any undue consideration.  Looking at the network status logs, AN servers seem to have load issues more frequently than MP.  My particular server, anyway, has had an uptime of about 99.9993% over the last six months.  Not too shabby.

As with Menard's AN account, I have more space and bandwidth than I could conceivably use without first melting the server.  I pay about $140/yr, which includes the extra fees for a static IP, one domain registration, and unlimited database + domain support.  I manage my additional domains through GoDaddy for about $10/yr each, and I also use their Turbo SSL which ain't too shabby.

A recent programming client of mine is "environmentally conscious" and bought a solar-powered plan from AISO.net.  That is by far the worst host I have ever seen.  One colorful example:  The welcome letter provided login information to a control panel for Windows servers, only the client's server is Linux.  They don't even have a Linux cpanel!!!  Haha.  Lordy, Lordy...


Title: Re: Why ain't the Martian yellow?
Post by: Menard on July 25, 2007, 02:24:48 PM
As with Menard's AN account, I have more space and bandwidth than I could conceivably use without first melting the server.  I pay about $140/yr, which includes the extra fees for a static IP, one domain registration, and unlimited database + domain support.  I manage my additional domains through GoDaddy for about $10/yr each, and I also use their Turbo SSL which ain't too shabby.


At present, I have way too much hosting.

I have accounts with ANHosting, Hostgator, and Byethost, not to mention my own free hosting at http://0pwh.com/ (nah..nah..nah; unashamed free plug :tongueout:).

The ANHosting account is just sitting there. I rather lost interest when they would not offer a discount for multiple accounts.

Byethost has become quite competitive in what they offer. For $6.99 a month (and you can pay by the month) you get 100GB of Space and 1TB of bandwidth. They don't offer unlimited domains and databases like some (50  addon domains/subdomains and 40 MySQL databases), but they offer affordable enough hosting, fast connections, clustered hosting, and they are adamant about informing you of any upgrades or maintenance issues. Too bad they don't have an affiliate program. Oh, and they allow adult sites. I actually have two accounts with them.

Hostgator is well known and well repected, has fast connections (I can tell a  slight difference between them and ANHosting), offers unlimited addon domains/subdomains and MySQL databases, and accepts monthly payments. They host adult sites as well. They did have an accross the board outage for a few hours, without any notification.

I am working on a new site (okay, have been working on it for a while). Due to the number of media files (they are being stored externally as my hard drive won't hold that large of a volume) and the size of the site itself, I will eventually need some serious hosting and am giving some hosting companies a try.

Perhaps I can strike up a deal with Byethost as they have always been willing to communicate.


Title: Re: Why ain't the Martian yellow?
Post by: Andrew on July 25, 2007, 04:54:02 PM
I'm going to have to go with a giant EGAD over that Lypha.com overselling.  Heck, even a low end dedicated with, say, 500 GB transfer a month will run you $80/month.

As with Menard's AN account, I have more space and bandwidth than I could conceivably use without first melting the server.  I pay about $140/yr, which includes the extra fees for a static IP, one domain registration, and unlimited database + domain support.  I manage my additional domains through GoDaddy for about $10/yr each, and I also use their Turbo SSL which ain't too shabby.

Registering the domain through the host always worries me.  A few of them include language in their TOS that makes the domain name their property and you are simply "renting" it from them as part of the package.  Transferring the domain from them can be a sticky widget.

Hostgator is a reseller for ThePlanet DC.  Badmovies.org was with them on both a dedicated server and a semi-dedicated one (it changed over time), in the past.  The server uptime with them and support was pretty good, as memory serves.  That was only back in November 2006 that I left.


Title: Re: Why ain't the Martian yellow?
Post by: Menard on July 25, 2007, 09:56:22 PM
Registering the domain through the host always worries me.  A few of them include language in their TOS that makes the domain name their property and you are simply "renting" it from them as part of the package.  Transferring the domain from them can be a sticky widget.

That is good to point out, and I didn't do that when I recommended Byethost. They do, if you accept a free domain from them, retain ownership of that domain. ANHosting does not retain ownership of any domain you get for free with their package (free is a relative term, but whether one opts for a domain or not, the package is the same price).

I do make a point to check out the TOS of any webhost I am considering (not only with regard to the free domain, if they offer such, but with whether they allow adult content, hidden bandwidth restrictions, etc.).

Another thing to point out for anybody getting hosting for the first time and considering a free domain from the host (been there; never going there again) is that you had damn well make for certain that the domain for the account is the domain you most want hosted. You only get one cpanel (ZZHosting is an exception; there may be other rare exceptions) for your domain which means that any other domains you host will be as addon domains.

Addon domains, even though they are for all intent and purpose treated as domains, are hosted as sub-domains rather than the account's primary domain. Though this benefits the primary domain, and can benefit the addon domain, if you selected something like sleazysexslavesdotwhatever as your free domain, you had damn well be comfortable with the fact that any addon domain you have will have a corresponding sub-domain of youraddondomainname.sleazysexslavesdotwhatever. Whatever the content of your primary domain may be will in some way be associated with your addon domain, for good or bad.

Okay; I'm finished boring everybody. :tongueout: