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Title: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: KYGOTC on August 09, 2007, 12:26:00 AM
I watched a movie a while ago that I enjoyed as a little kid. It was the original THE BRAVE LITTLE TOASTER. and I gotta tell ya, that movie is EFFED UP. The air conditioner comits suicide, the used aplience man seems to "murder" his apliances, Lampy almost dies, and the entire scene at the dump leaves me a bit squeamish. WHO FRAMED RODGER RABBIT is also one that is not without is questionable parts. Any Kid-intended movies gone very very wrong that you guys an' gals can think of?


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: AnubisVonMojo on August 09, 2007, 08:11:52 AM
Return to Oz, the Dark Crystal and Labyrinth are three from my childhood that were f*cked up on so many levels. From evil minions dressed in leather bellboy costumes with creaking metal wheels for hands to giant killer beetle monsters to David Bowie in spandex, this is the holy trinity of "freaky kids movies that I'm not embarrassed to tell people I still like to watch".


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: HappyGilmore on August 09, 2007, 10:41:47 AM
I watched a movie a while ago that I enjoyed as a little kid. It was the original THE BRAVE LITTLE TOASTER. and I gotta tell ya, that movie is EFFED UP. The air conditioner comits suicide, the used aplience man seems to "murder" his apliances, Lampy almost dies, and the entire scene at the dump leaves me a bit squeamish. WHO FRAMED RODGER RABBIT is also one that is not without is questionable parts. Any Kid-intended movies gone very very wrong that you guys an' gals can think of?

The Brave Little Toaster rocked.  And yeah, it was F'ed up too.

Return to Oz, the Dark Crystal and Labyrinth are three from my childhood that were f*cked up on so many levels. From evil minions dressed in leather bellboy costumes with creaking metal wheels for hands to giant killer beetle monsters to David Bowie in spandex, this is the holy trinity of "freaky kids movies that I'm not embarrassed to tell people I still like to watch".
All good choices too.  I still watch Labyrinth to this day.

I always thought Willy Wonka was somewhat creepy, but not too much.


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: AnubisVonMojo on August 09, 2007, 11:00:47 AM
I always thought Willy Wonka was somewhat creepy, but not too much.

Well, yeah... except for the singing orange midgets and the boat ride of unimaginable and graphically violent terrors!!!!  :buggedout:


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: Mr. DS on August 09, 2007, 11:12:06 AM
Never Ending Story & Watership Down.  Granted Watership Down shouldn't really be considered a kid's story per se but I always remember them putting it on the air around Easter in my area. Not a good idea by the way. 


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: HappyGilmore on August 09, 2007, 11:15:28 AM
I always thought Willy Wonka was somewhat creepy, but not too much.

Well, yeah... except for the singing orange midgets and the boat ride of unimaginable and graphically violent terrors!!!!  :buggedout:
I thought the singing orange midgets were the creepy part. 

They're odd. 

And Gene Wilder. 


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: ulthar on August 09, 2007, 11:46:57 AM
My daughter, who just turned 5 this week, loves THE DARK CRYSTAL.  She's been watching it since she was three.  Her 2 year old brother likes it too, but basically if she likes it, he likes it.

She also loves A NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS, which of course has it's weird/creepy parts. DINOSAURUS! and IT CAME FROM BENEATH THE SEA are also among her favorites.   :wink:


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: AnubisVonMojo on August 09, 2007, 12:16:04 PM
My daughter, who just turned 5 this week, loves THE DARK CRYSTAL.  She's been watching it since she was three.  Her 2 year old brother likes it too, but basically if she likes it, he likes it.

She also loves A NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS, which of course has it's weird/creepy parts. DINOSAURUS! and IT CAME FROM BENEATH THE SEA are also among her favorites.   :wink:

Ulthar, you're doing a fine job raising your kids. Karma for you my friend.  :thumbup:


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: Allhallowsday on August 09, 2007, 02:09:14 PM
I always thought Willy Wonka was somewhat creepy, but not too much.
Well, yeah... except for the singing orange midgets and the boat ride of unimaginable and graphically violent terrors!!!!  :buggedout:
And what's "creepy" about that, may I ask?   :teddyr:
(http://a100.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/33/l_d6aceb4d7dd8da040a0452f805369c8b.gif)

I thought LEMONY SNICKET'S A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS was creepy. 


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: HappyGilmore on August 09, 2007, 10:35:43 PM
I always thought Willy Wonka was somewhat creepy, but not too much.
Well, yeah... except for the singing orange midgets and the boat ride of unimaginable and graphically violent terrors!!!!  :buggedout:
And what's "creepy" about that, may I ask?   :teddyr:
([url]http://a100.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/33/l_d6aceb4d7dd8da040a0452f805369c8b.gif[/url])

I thought LEMONY SNICKET'S A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS was creepy. 


Nothing.  If you think having a bunch of singing orange midgets living with you, while you lick walls and invite random kids in your house is normal.  Then yeah, nothing's creepy.   :teddyr:

He rocked that role.


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: LilCerberus on August 09, 2007, 11:02:46 PM
Santa Claus (1959) is certainly worth mentioning
Animal Farm - Not a kid's book, but made into a kid's movie for some reason
The Mouse & His Son - just depressing


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: KYGOTC on August 10, 2007, 12:14:13 AM
Santa Claus (1959) is certainly worth mentioning
Animal Farm - Not a kid's book, but made into a kid's movie for some reason
The Mouse & His Son - just depressing

What is animal farm about? Ive always heard that it was messed up and I know that there was a cartoon made out of it, but Ive never been able to find it.


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: Shadow on August 10, 2007, 12:40:45 AM
What is animal farm about? Ive always heard that it was messed up and I know that there was a cartoon made out of it, but Ive never been able to find it.


Short answer: It's about animals, led by some pigs, who rise up against their human oppressors and take control of a farm. The book is an allegory for Soviet totalitarianism.

Long answer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_farm


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: HappyGilmore on August 10, 2007, 10:22:12 AM
I read Animal Farm in like, 9th Grade.

Fun book.

Don't know about the movie.  Haven't seen it.


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: Allhallowsday on August 10, 2007, 10:36:18 AM
The Mouse & His Son - just depressing
I think you mean THE MOUSE AND HIS CHILD... but I agree, hardly a "kid's movie."


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: D-Man on August 10, 2007, 01:43:05 PM
I remember a BAD movie that was marketed towards kids mainly, called "Baby: Secret of The Lost Legend", made in 1985.  It had Sean Young, of all people, and William Katt as scientists who discover a family of fake-looking brontosaurs in Africa.  They rescue the baby from a typical evil scientist type, and go on a quest to rescue its mother. 

One thing this film had was some pretty edgy material for a "kids" movie...there's a scene where an African man advocates wife-beating, and some sexual material too, apparently.  All I really remember is that I was 5 when I saw it, and I was sad when they killed the father brontosaur.  My late father actually lied to me by the end, and said the father brontosaur was really all right...but I was a dumb kid anyway, hehe, and I forgive him now.  Serves me right for getting worked up over a bad movie anyway.   :teddyr:

 


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: MeanStreaka4337 on August 10, 2007, 04:34:45 PM
The Michael Jackson movie: Moonwalker. MJ having to "Save" kids form a Drug Dealer? Sorry but anything with MJ and Kids is creepy on general principle.


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: HappyGilmore on August 10, 2007, 09:59:16 PM
Moonwalker rocks.

Horrible.  But it rocks.



Title: You think its a FAIRY TALE but...it's not.
Post by: Allhallowsday on August 11, 2007, 12:38:56 AM
What is animal farm about? Ive always heard that it was messed up and I know that there was a cartoon made out of it, but Ive never been able to find it.

Short answer: It's about animals, led by some pigs, who rise up against their human oppressors and take control of a farm. The book is an allegory for Soviet totalitarianism.

There are a few young people's books that opened my eyes and hurt to read.  Books like To Kill A Mockingbird or The Boy Who Could Make Himself Disappear and The Outsiders... maybe Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle's Inferno... but Animal Farm... that's a very special book.  I was very young when I first read it and I cried.  It's a terrible truth revealed that is not for cry-babies.  The ending has that stunning hideous moment when betrayal is even irrelevant:
"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."

KYGOTC: read this book, ANIMAL FARM by GEORGE ORWELL...it is short and easy, enjoyable, engrossing, and will change your life.  This book will teach you about motivation, trust, and betrayal.  I guarantee you it will change you.  One of the greatest books ever written.  VERY HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!   :thumbup: 


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: LilCerberus on August 11, 2007, 01:52:06 PM
What is animal farm about? Ive always heard that it was messed up and I know that there was a cartoon made out of it, but Ive never been able to find it.

Short answer: It's about animals, led by some pigs, who rise up against their human oppressors and take control of a farm. The book is an allegory for Soviet totalitarianism.

There are a few young people's books that opened my eyes and hurt to read.  Books like To Kill A Mockingbird or The Boy Who Could Make Himself Disappear and The Outsiders... maybe Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle's Inferno... but Animal Farm... that's a very special book.  I was very young when I first read it and I cried.  It's a terrible truth revealed that is not for cry-babies.  The ending has that stunning hideous moment when betrayal is even irrelevant:
"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."

KYGOTC: read this book, ANIMAL FARM by GEORGE ORWELL...it is short and easy, enjoyable, engrossing, and will change your life.  This book will teach you about motivation, trust, and betrayal.  I guarantee you it will change you.  One of the greatest books ever written.  VERY HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!   :thumbup: 

I read the book in high school, at a point in my life when I was pretty much cynical about everything.
Then our teacher showed us the movie. Everything that made the book interesting was horribly sugared over.
I found a copy in those $1 DVDs at Wal-Mart about a year ago, but I haven't watched it yet.


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: zombie #1 on August 13, 2007, 08:00:47 PM
Pee Wee's Big Adventure, definitely...


"There are things about me you dont wanna know...

things you couldn't know...

things you shouldn't know"

Biker #4: I say we scalp him!
Biker Gang: [shouts] Yeah!
Biker #4: Then we tattoo him!
Biker Gang: [shouts] Yeah!
Biker #4: Then we hang him!
Biker Gang: [shouts] Yeah!
Biker #4: And then we kill him!
Biker Gang: [shouts] Yeah!

And when they pulled the driver's body..

 from the twisted,

burning wreck...

It looked like this...

(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/9963/largemargewr4.gif)

etc, etc...





Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: BTM on August 13, 2007, 08:45:14 PM
Pee Wee's Big Adventure, definitely...


Speaking of that show, one thing I've always wonder.. what does that character DO for a living?  I mean, even Ernest had a series of jobs...


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: zombie #1 on August 13, 2007, 11:10:33 PM
I don't know man, Paul Reubens the actor that played pee wee probably lives off the royalties from the 2 pee wee films plus all the series of pee wee's playhouse he did (of which there was many). merchandise would probably count for a fair bit, plus I think he does a lot of voice-over work...good question though, I couldn't really say for sure.


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: KYGOTC on August 14, 2007, 12:02:30 AM
Yea, I forgot how much Large Marge creeped me out when I was little. Plus the whole Evil clown scene is a little odd.


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: Inyarear on August 14, 2007, 01:51:13 AM
Well, people seem to be naming most of the movies I remember so far. What's interesting about a lot of the movies named is that I didn't usually see very much that was creepy about them when I first watched them as a child. When I was an adult and went back and saw them again, that's when I began to notice some of the creepier implications of the things that happen in them. In the case of Pee Wee Herman, though, the film was disturbing enough by itself even when I was a kid and the authorities hadn't busted the actor for anything yet. Even beyond those vicious bikers and the delirious driving sequence with the undead driver, I still remember Pee Wee's dream sequence about all the horrible things being done to his bike (which I think included some of those evil clowns you mentioned) as one of the most disturbing pieces I ever saw as a kid.

A more recent creepy movie I saw only as an adult, which I guess was at least directed at youth, if not really young children, was Powder. Even leaving aside the director's history as a sex offender, there were a bunch of scenes in there where I couldn't help thinking "Geez, that Donald Ripley guy looks like he's hitting on Powder!" It didn't help, either, that the whole movie was pushing an extremely heavy-handed politically correct message in my face about guns and violence (always bad) and tolerance and diversity (always good), or that Powder's combined albinism and glabrousness seemed almost fetishistic--you know, the kind of look to which Michael Jackson might aspire.

Then there's that kid flick I used in this board's captioning section not too long ago, The Great Land of Small. Sure, the fantastic Land of Small itself is kind of creepy with its rather psychedelic denizens, one of the wildest of which is the Slimo creature I use as my avatar picture on this board, but the people back in the real world in that movie are rather creepy too, especially the antagonist Flannigan. He and his trigger-happy drinking buddies look like trouble even before he gets his hands on the "goldy gold" a leprechaun gives him (don't ask) and starts using it to do some kind of unspecified magic.

(http://www.badmovies.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=114847.0;attach=331;image)

In the scene I asked people to caption, showing Flannigan experimenting with his bag of goldy gold in front of a mirror in his daughter's room (again, don't ask), I kept thinking when I saw this as an adult, "What, is he snorting the stuff?" In every scene where he's using the powdery goldy gold, all he really does is stand there and laugh like a maniac while electronic stuff around him malfunctions and the tables and chairs rattle a bit. He also acts rather like a megalomaniac as he goes around ordering his drinking buddies to search the woods for--they're not sure what since he won't tell them, but he's hoping they'll find some more goldy gold for him, of course. By the time one of his henchmen casually asks another "Do you think the boss has flipped his lid?" I was saying "It's about time somebody asked that!"

In an otherwise innocent-looking kids' flick, in other words, we've got trigger-happy gunmen blazing away at anything that looks like a legitimate target (though they never actually hit anything), a madman and megalomaniac ordering these overgrown hoodlums around apparently on the strength of his intimidating personality, and a magical dust that smacks of (especially in the 1980s) cocaine, PCP, or (especially now) crystal meth, and a sequence involving a freaky magical land that looks like something out of an acid trip.

Now that is creepy.


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: steve on August 31, 2007, 01:21:37 AM
oh yeah, the Dark Crystal....

shivers,  muppets on crack, anyone!?

still, a masterpiece as far as I'm concerned.


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: DistantJ on September 01, 2007, 06:03:57 AM
That's a point, Moonwalker is actually pretty damn creepy! I'm sure I'm not the only one here who found the clay animation to be a bit unsettling too because of the judder.


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: ghouck on September 01, 2007, 11:04:42 PM
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The Michael Jackson movie: Moonwalker. MJ having to "Save" kids form a Drug Dealer? Sorry but anything with MJ and Kids is creepy on general principle.

I'd rather leave my kid with the Drug dealer, probably safer. At least when he was younger, Now, at 15, I'd bet everything I own that my kid would tear that scawny little weasle in half in less than a minute. That guy just totally creeps me out.


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: Automan2000 on September 03, 2007, 08:05:33 AM
That fairly recent remake attempt of The Little Rascals.

Young kids spewing sleazy pick-up lines is enough to creep anybody out. Its like they left out all the child-like charm of the original Our Gang and what was left was just downright creepy.


Title: Re: You think its a FAIRY TALE but...it's not.
Post by: CheezeFlixz on September 03, 2007, 09:53:12 AM
KYGOTC: read this book, ANIMAL FARM by GEORGE ORWELL...it is short and easy, enjoyable, engrossing, and will change your life.  This book will teach you about motivation, trust, and betrayal.  I guarantee you it will change you.  One of the greatest books ever written.  VERY HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!   :thumbup: 

I thought this book in addition to '1984' was required High School reading. You may also want to check out BUNT which some claim Orwell got the idea of Animal Farm from. Albeit a bit difficult to find.


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: HappyGilmore on September 04, 2007, 11:13:49 AM
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory- I love this version.  But it's creepy.  Johnny Depp looks like some weird Michael Jackson type.  Plus it's like, "Hey, I'm perpetually happy, and I like to harm/kill kids, while joking about it and having my midget Oompa Loompa's sing catchy songs while it's happening.  Yay!"

Still think it's great.


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: TheAtomicAndrew on September 12, 2007, 01:37:12 PM
Wow, you guys remember the H.R. Puffnstuff Movie?  Good times...good times...I remember watching the movie over and over again when I was a kid.  Now I'm hooked on Mama Cass, but strangely I've yet to smoke marijuana.  And I don't know about you guys, but Thomas the Tank Engine, frickin' freaked me out!  I remember a chill going down my spine whenever one of them got mad and turned red.  And the way they talked in softspoken English accents but their mouths never moved, and their eyes were glossed over and soulless...like doll's eyes!


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: RapscallionJones on September 12, 2007, 01:49:57 PM
The Michael Jackson movie: Moonwalker. MJ having to "Save" kids form a Drug Dealer? Sorry but anything with MJ and Kids is creepy on general principle.
Laugh all you want, but that s**t was so extremely popular when it came out.  The Bad era for Michael Jackson has this really sinister air about it in hindsight knowing what we do now, but when that album was released, you'd think he was on tour with Jesus.  All of that weird pedophile stuff started to surface around this time.

Moonwalker IS extremely strange, though.  Boylove aside, it's shocking that no one questioned his sanity when he turned into a car and then turned into a giant robot that kills Joe Pesci.  The whole movie is just crazy.

One of my favorite Michael Jackson rumors from the last couple of years was the suspect announcement that he wanted to make a feature film where he voices a talking car that befriends an abused boy and the boy gets inside him and drives him around.

Title?  Hot Rod.  The jokes write themselves.  No idea if it's true or not.  Probably not, but still funny.  Then again, Michael also wanted to commission the construction of a giant MJ robot that wanders around the Nevada desert near Vegas.

The pedophile pathology can be set aside for right now, I really want to know what his fascination with giant robot likenesses of himself and talking, anthropomorphic cars have to say about his psyche.


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: HappyGilmore on September 12, 2007, 08:04:12 PM
Wow, you guys remember the H.R. Puffnstuff Movie?  Good times...good times...I remember watching the movie over and over again when I was a kid.  Now I'm hooked on Mama Cass, but strangely I've yet to smoke marijuana.  And I don't know about you guys, but Thomas the Tank Engine, frickin' freaked me out!  I remember a chill going down my spine whenever one of them got mad and turned red.  And the way they talked in softspoken English accents but their mouths never moved, and their eyes were glossed over and soulless...like doll's eyes!
The Pufnstuff movie rocked.  And that Thomas thing is scary.  George Carlin was involved for a bit, too.


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: HarlotBug3 on September 14, 2007, 03:57:55 PM
I watched a movie a while ago that I enjoyed as a little kid. It was the original THE BRAVE LITTLE TOASTER. and I gotta tell ya, that movie is EFFED UP. The air conditioner comits suicide, the used aplience man seems to "murder" his apliances, Lampy almost dies, and the entire scene at the dump leaves me a bit squeamish. WHO FRAMED RODGER RABBIT is also one that is not without is questionable parts. Any Kid-intended movies gone very very wrong that you guys an' gals can think of?

Before I go any further let me give you Karma for starting one of my favorite movie topics!  :teddyr:


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: HarlotBug3 on September 14, 2007, 04:05:53 PM
The Mouse & His Son - just depressing
I think you mean THE MOUSE AND HIS CHILD... but I agree, hardly a "kid's movie."


Amazing how parents to this day always assume that Cartoon = G rating.

On the other hand, I'd rather children see something potentially 'traumatic' than some mass marketed toy-hawking shlock.

There's an obscure sci-fi toon out there called "Light Years". If Heavy Metal was pot and liquor, this one was shrooms and LSD...also easier to hide from the folks in plain sight :wink: 


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: BlackAngel75 on September 17, 2007, 01:25:46 AM
I haven't seen any of the movies, but my brother says he's very creeped out about Children of the Corn.  I think it was the platinum haired kids with that stare that did it for him.


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: AndyC on September 17, 2007, 04:47:31 AM
I don't know about you guys, but Thomas the Tank Engine, frickin' freaked me out!  I remember a chill going down my spine whenever one of them got mad and turned red.  And the way they talked in softspoken English accents but their mouths never moved, and their eyes were glossed over and soulless...like doll's eyes!

That reminded me of a current show I've watched with my daughter - Rolie Polie Olie. Everything in this kid's house is alive. The furniture, the appliances, the kitchenware....heck, the house itself. They all have eyes, silently looking about in the background of every scene. It's not as if these are characters, talking and interacting with the people. They're just an ongoing presence that is never explained.

I don't know about you, but it would freak me out to go to sleep on a bed with the headboard quietly staring at me the whole time.


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: RapscallionJones on September 17, 2007, 11:27:17 AM
I haven't seen any of the movies, but my brother says he's very creeped out about Children of the Corn.  I think it was the platinum haired kids with that stare that did it for him.
My wife had very fond memories of that movie from her childhood, but for some reason hadn't seen it in a long time.  I tried to tell her that the appeal didn't hold up over the years and it's actually quite hokey but she wouldn't listen.  So we rented it and she understood what I was talking about.


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: penny lizardo on September 17, 2007, 09:08:55 PM
It sounds weird, but that movie "the last starfighter" really creeped me out. this one part where the starfighters' doppleganger starts to melt was really really iccky, couldn't bring myself to watch that again. Another strange one was "enemy mine"- those alien acid worms, the child slave pits, Dennis Quaid, it still gives me shivers..


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: ghouck on September 18, 2007, 11:25:41 AM
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Laugh all you want, but that s**t was so extremely popular when it came out.  The Bad era for Michael Jackson has this really sinister air about it in hindsight knowing what we do now, but when that album was released, you'd think he was on tour with Jesus.  All of that weird pedophile stuff started to surface around this time.

I think that's what makes it all the more creepy: We (parents) like to think we can spot pervs, etc out of a crowd, only to find out we flew our kid halfway across the country to see one, and bought them every album they were selling. The child weirdness didn't START when it bacame public, it was already happening, or one would think. You're right though, the public, especially the American public, was buying it all up. .

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One of my favorite Michael Jackson rumors from the last couple of years was the suspect announcement that he wanted to make a feature film where he voices a talking car that befriends an abused boy and the boy gets inside him and drives him around.

That's the creepiest thing I've ever heard.




Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: Inyarear on September 18, 2007, 04:58:17 PM
On the other hand, I'd rather children see something potentially 'traumatic' than some mass marketed toy-hawking shlock.

I think I'd kind of prefer to go a middle route with the kids. The Shrek movies, in my opinion, had the right idea in this regard: put in plenty of stuff aimed at a more mature audience, but in such a way that it'll fly right over the kids' heads. Then, when they go back and re-examine the movies they remember so fondly from their youth, they'll appreciate the lessons it taught them on a somewhat deeper level.

Of course, the Shrek movies aren't really creepy at all, for all the oddball characters in them. When it comes to the creepy stuff, Tim Burton is the master of macabre movies for kids; just try watching his Corpse Bride sometime, or Nightmare Before Christmas; the guy seems to have a thing for people with detachable parts.


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: HappyGilmore on September 18, 2007, 07:56:43 PM
On the other hand, I'd rather children see something potentially 'traumatic' than some mass marketed toy-hawking shlock.

I think I'd kind of prefer to go a middle route with the kids. The Shrek movies, in my opinion, had the right idea in this regard: put in plenty of stuff aimed at a more mature audience, but in such a way that it'll fly right over the kids' heads. Then, when they go back and re-examine the movies they remember so fondly from their youth, they'll appreciate the lessons it taught them on a somewhat deeper level.

Of course, the Shrek movies aren't really creepy at all, for all the oddball characters in them. When it comes to the creepy stuff, Tim Burton is the master of macabre movies for kids; just try watching his Corpse Bride sometime, or Nightmare Before Christmas; the guy seems to have a thing for people with detachable parts.
Or Burton's short film FrankenWeenie.  Basically, it's a 35 minute version of Frankenstein, starring Shelly Duvall, Daniel Stern and the kid from Neverending Story.  Only difference is, the kid's dog gets hit by a car, dies, and the kid learns in science class about electricity and that with enough voltage, voila.  Things come back to life.  So he digs up his dog, resurrects it, and all hell breaks loose.  Hilarious.  Saw it when I was 10, maybe 13 years ago when Disney released it on home video. 


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: Inyarear on September 20, 2007, 12:56:32 AM
Or Burton's short film FrankenWeenie.

Heh heh! I've seen that one, and it is hilarious. I think the part I liked best was the scene where the kid is sitting there mourning his dead dog, and the rain is pattering dramatically against the window, and then the camera pulls back to reveal that the "rain" is actually just the spray from his mother's garden hose, which she's using to water the shrubs around her house.


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: HappyGilmore on September 20, 2007, 10:38:11 AM
I don't think anyone I know saw FrankenWeenie.  Good little short flick.


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: Kooshmeister on September 20, 2007, 09:32:29 PM
Has The Adventures of Mark Twain been mentioned yet....?

Regardless of intent, any movie where Satan (personified as a headless man who communicates via an ever-changing theater mask on a stick) creates an entire little civilization and then annihilates it out of spite as three horrified kids look on is pure nightmare fodder.

We watched the film at after-school daycare when I was in living in Texas and (I think) in the third grade. It scared me so badly I actually got up and left the room and refused to watch the remainder of the film. I then proceeded to forget about it for years (although occasionally memories of it would creep up, enough that I was able to search online and find out the title of the movie), but a couple of days ago I stumbled across "the Satan scene" purely by chance on YouTube, and it didn't scare me anymore, and, now that I'm an adult, I'm actually able to comprehend the stuff Satan says (not that this makes it any less disturbing).

The scene is intensely quotable ("I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is."), and the bit where the king of the little civilization is raging up at Satan in his high, squeaky voice and babbling the incomprehensible language they have, and then just gets zapped out of existence, I found darkly amusing. He's just shaking his fists and going "Dooo-waaaa! Waaa-waaa!" (or some approximation thereof), then ZAP! and he's gone. I couldn't help but giggle. I'm unsure if this was supposed to be funny, or if it's just one of those unintentionally humorous moments countless films are rife with. And considering how dark the scene is both before and after this bit, I'm pretty sure it isn't meant to be funny.


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: Fausto on September 21, 2007, 05:22:07 PM
I don't think anyone I know saw FrankenWeenie.  Good little short flick.

That and Vincent are both avilable, in their entirety, as special features on the Nightmare Before Christmas DVD. Good stuff (also, one of the neighborhood kids from Frankenweenie was the brother from the Wonder Years).


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: HappyGilmore on September 21, 2007, 08:44:26 PM
Jason Hervey?

He's like, a producer now.  Produced wrestling for a bit, and now reality shows.


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: BTM on September 28, 2007, 04:21:57 PM
Has The Adventures of Mark Twain been mentioned yet....?

Dude, I think I saw the SAME clip you did, only it didn't tell what the show was, just said, "Creepiest kids film ever" or some such.  It certainly looked a bit on the weird side.

Hey, it's on DVD!  May have to get it from Netflix...



Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: HarlotBug3 on October 01, 2007, 04:43:28 PM
Has The Adventures of Mark Twain been mentioned yet....?

Regardless of intent, any movie where Satan (personified as a headless man who communicates via an ever-changing theater mask on a stick) creates an entire little civilization and then annihilates it out of spite as three horrified kids look on is pure nightmare fodder.

We watched the film at after-school daycare when I was in living in Texas and (I think) in the third grade. It scared me so badly I actually got up and left the room and refused to watch the remainder of the film. I then proceeded to forget about it for years (although occasionally memories of it would creep up, enough that I was able to search online and find out the title of the movie), but a couple of days ago I stumbled across "the Satan scene" purely by chance on YouTube, and it didn't scare me anymore, and, now that I'm an adult, I'm actually able to comprehend the stuff Satan says (not that this makes it any less disturbing).

The scene is intensely quotable ("I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is."), and the bit where the king of the little civilization is raging up at Satan in his high, squeaky voice and babbling the incomprehensible language they have, and then just gets zapped out of existence, I found darkly amusing. He's just shaking his fists and going "Dooo-waaaa! Waaa-waaa!" (or some approximation thereof), then ZAP! and he's gone. I couldn't help but giggle. I'm unsure if this was supposed to be funny, or if it's just one of those unintentionally humorous moments countless films are rife with. And considering how dark the scene is both before and after this bit, I'm pretty sure it isn't meant to be funny.

I saw that scene around the same age, but recall being more fascinated than frightened. Stop motion animation is high on the very short list of things I miss about the 80s and I might grab this dvd as well, just to complete another one of those films I'd always catch pieces of on TV but never experienced start to finish.

If I may venture to speculate the 'intent' of this scene; Twain's popularity is both heartening and astounding in the context of all he wrote against kristianists and the other god-bothering masses that dominate so much of American culture. Rather than stir moral outrage with some of his more humanist quotes in a 'kids movie' they hid it in symbolism via this 'Satan' character behaving very much like the old testament Yahweh.


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: AndyC on October 01, 2007, 06:21:07 PM
Just checked out the Mark Twain scene on YouTube. Freaky.

Anybody else reminded of Woody Boyd in Authors in Hell?


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: Gwangi on November 17, 2007, 07:26:12 PM
I know this is an old thread, but I so have to post these gems:
1.  All Dogs Go to Heaven- the creepy Cat/Devil at the end.
2.  An American Tale- the Giant Mouse of Minsk was scary.
3.  The Secret of NIMH- the owl
 A lot of early animated films had really creepy elements.
Anyone remember the Unico movies?  That puppet scared the crap out of me


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: HappyGilmore on November 17, 2007, 09:08:11 PM
All Dogs Go to Heaven was a decent flick.  And that scene you mentioned is somewhat creepy, from what I remember.


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: BlackAngel75 on November 19, 2007, 01:34:49 AM
This is definitely not a kids movie but one movie that shocked and creeped the s**t out of me was Kids.  And Beetlejuice; it's still funny, but it was also scary especially the seance.


Title: Re: Downright Creepy kids movies
Post by: HarlotBug3 on November 19, 2007, 07:38:08 PM
I know this is an old thread, but I so have to post these gems:
1.  All Dogs Go to Heaven- the creepy Cat/Devil at the end.
2.  An American Tale- the Giant Mouse of Minsk was scary.
3.  The Secret of NIMH- the owl
 A lot of early animated films had really creepy elements.
Anyone remember the Unico movies?  That puppet scared the crap out of me


I really do miss the old don bluth movies  :bluesad: It's sad to think that no american film will ever use paint animation so well again.

But thus speaking of imports, Unico was both impressive and unsettling. I keep waiting for it to be redistributed on dvd...methinks too few could stomach a mix of such cutsey heros and such evil villains.