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This is probably one of the best of the series (except the first of course) but it's still pretty cheezy.  Seems Freddy is vulnerable to the Catholic faith (good thing he wasn't a Buddhist for whatever would those kids have done?) and who can forget the awesoem rockinest bust-outta-the-wall Dokken soundtrack?  But we did have a main character (the male Doctor lead) who ultimately learned that Science is bad (mmmkay).  Over the course of the movie, and with a ghostly Freddy's mom, he learned to use some faith and Holy water to defeat Freddster only to have that whole thing shat upon in the intro of the next installment when Freddy is resurrected by dog p**s (literally).

Sure, it's a typical 80s flick and you know this because all the teens are in a mental institution and everyone is Catholic - it was quite the norm back then I suppose.  Seems many characters had the script and knew just when to all fall asleep together as well.

The Dream Warriors themselves weren't all that formidable: we had strong guy that wasn't strong enough to beat Freddy, an acrobat pull-you-in-my dreams chick, a chick with switchblades and hairspray who was overall non effective with her combat abilities, and let's not forget the Harry Potter D&D fan shooting green s**t from his hands, among others.

Still, I did like the appearance and significance of Nancy's character (and her dad) - it did add some weight and gave us a really good character to cheer.  <spoilers> Too bad she dies in the end.  But lookie here, the black guy actually lives.  Yes Acrobat dream puller girl, the token black guy, and the mute all live to go to the next movie and are therefore guarenteed to die soon (after some major cosmetic surgery for a couple of them).

Overall it was good cheezy fun - Freddy was probably his funniest here.  This was IMO the last good Freddy movie until Freddy vs Jason.

Note: My comments about the religion of 80s teens is meant to be tongue-in-cheek so please don't be offended.

This is my personal favorite film of the series.  They really pulled out all the stops with this one.  The marionette death is my favorite of this one.

Torgo said pretty much what I wanted to say.  I love the puppet death in this film and aside from the original, it's the best of all of them.  I also love the revealing of Freddy's past, with his mother getting raped by 100 asylum inmates. 

Great, great, great film.   :thumbup:

This by far is one of my top ten favs of all time.  Perhaps its the reason also why I hated part 4 so much. 

I think this movie is awful, by far the worst Nightmare movie.

All of a sudden, Freddy eats souls?

When the parents killed him all those years ago they gathered up his bones?  And rather than scatter tham all over the place they put them in a sack?  In the back of a wrecked car?  And the car is still in the exact same place after all this time?

Dream power!  Huzzah!  Dream powers include: wearing leather, having a mohawk, and carrying two knives; being able to yell really loud; acting like a stereotype angry black guy and being king of strong; and being sort of agile!  That's so awesome!

"I am the WIZARD MASTER!"

In the first couple of movies, Freddy's jokes were sadistic and cruel.  Starting in this movie, Freddy is just an idiot who makes lame wisecracks before a kill (at least Freddy's Dead took that and ran with it).

And, wow, what a climax!  Freddy's going "argh" and spinning around with cartoon light beams shooting out of his body!  That's so amazing!  (It was at least better than Freddy dying because he saw his reflection in The Dream Master.)

I do think this one had the best poster art.

Part 4 had some good set pieces but it didn't hang together at all as a whole as they had been well into film without a finalized script. All they had is the dream gags that they wanted to do and that was it at first.   

 I love this film so much that I am even including the green phallic Freddy munching on Kristin in my sleeve I am getting done soon. (I will post pics when it is done)

 I cant say I agree with everything akiratubo had to say about it but i do agree that it was great how they ran with the senseless humor in Freddy's dead. That is my other favorite of the nightmare movies along with part one of course.

This was the first of the Nightmare movies I saw. Didn't become a fan of slashers until midway through high school. Watched this in a rec room with a bunch of other guys and had a blast. This was the one where they just went for total cheesy fun, stylish deaths, and quotable quips. Made me want to see the first two.

I have to say, the series went mostly downhill from there, though.

Evil Dead Chick, love the idea.  Can't wait to see the pics. 

Overall I was happy with this one.  Felt it was a bit of a step up after the second one. 

Here's how I rate the entire Elm Street series out of 4 stars:

Part 1    ***
Part 2    *1/2
Part 3    ***1/2
Part 4    **1/2
Part 5    **
Part 6    *1/2
New Nightmare   ***

Torgo, I pretty much agree with your rating system at least as far as I can remember some of the entries; I haven't watched some of them for years, especially parts 2, 5, and 6.

I would personally rate Freddy vs Jason with 4 stars; it was about as good as it could have been and paid homage to both legends fairly well.  I like the cinematic shots reminiscent of Elm Street 1 and the reference to hypnocil, for example.

From what I remember, the thing about part 2 I didn't care for (in addition to the outta place homo eroticism elements) was the notion that Freddy wanted to come back to the real world where he's ultimately more vulnerable.  One thing I did like about part 2, however was the the readings of Nancy's diary -quite effective on the creep factor.

Well, I see I've digressed quite a bit from part 3.  Part 3 did seem to bring the series back and, for better or worse, started the Freddy as a comedian/anti-hero of the series.  And yeah, things did get progressively worse there after.

I recently went back and re-watched all of the films.  I've been meaning to do a run down of reviews for each film but haven't done so yet.  Might need to get around to it soon.

Definitely the most popular Nightmare on Elm Street, though my favourite was always the 4th.

I keep hearing (since the 80s) that this is one of the best sequels, but I've never been able to finish watching it. Don't ask me why, just find it boring. Number 4 is dumb, but at least it's fun to watch. And I don't think I've ever een #5 or New Nightmare, now that I think of it.

I agree that Freddy vs. Jason turned out as good as anyone could have done it IMO.  It was entertaining, had some great kills for each character, loads of gore, cleavage, hot babes, taut editing and it didn't take itself seriously at all.

I had thought that it would've been a tee total disaster but I was proven wrong.

I know people who were disappointed.

I loved it, and still pop the dvd in now and then.

Only thing I would have changed, was the ending.  The ending was okay, but eh. 

The biggest obstacle they had with Freddy Vs. Jason was who to have win in the final battle.  I've always said that Jason won it but they had to put that last bit in right at the end where Freddy winks at the camera while Jason is carrying his servered head out of the lake.

Jason won it in the sense of like, he's still standing.  But I don't necessarily say he got the victory over Freddy.  Technically Jason stabbed Freddy in the chest with Freddy's dismembered arm, but Lori's the one who pulled Freddy out of the dream and chopped off Freddy's head.  Jason needed outside interference. :wink:

Honestly though, I like Jason and Freddy, so either way I'd have been happy with whoever they said won. 

Well, as in any good vrs movie -they both won in different ways.  Freddy kicked Jason around in dream-land.  It was the only way he could get and exploit Jason's fear -memories of being drowned in the beginning.

But once in the real world, Jason mopped the floor with Freddy's limp carcass, well, at least in the physical sense.  I mean, he is a tank for chrissakes!  But Freddy did outwit him a lot too, but yeah in the end it was Jason who was walkin' tall sans a few fingers anyway.

Yeah, Lori did her hand at helping...and it was a good way to tie in the human/Final Girl character rather than having her just run around screaming, falling down, running upstairs and cornering herself.  Lori was quite a refreshing Final Girl now that I think about it.  And damn that was some cleavage :)

It's understandable that they'd have Jason come out just a little bit ahead of Freddy. He is the lesser of two evils, in the truest sense of the word.

Jason has an innocent side. Deformed child, most likely mentally handicapped in some way, with an overprotective (and slightly loony) mother. He gets drowned (or nearly drowned) after being neglected by horny counselors, grows up alone in the woods, then watches his mother hack up a bunch of teenagers - to avenge him no less - before one of them lops her head off. He's since endured pain and death over and over again. It's tragic when you think about it. And Jason has always had a childlike side to him, a touch of innocence, or at least the sense that he's emotionally immature and might not completely understand what he's doing. He's even got ethics of a sort, as he  avoided harming any of the children in Part 6.

Come to think of it, Jason's motives are a mystery. It could be revenge, or maybe he's carrying on what he saw his mother doing. He might think he's the guardian of Crystal Lake for all we know.

Freddy, on the other hand, has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. His mother was raped by lunatics. That's the extent of his personal tragedy. Otherwise, there is nothing to feel sorry for. He is clearly aware of what he's doing, and enjoys it. And he specifically targets children, and was killed as punishment for unspeakable crimes, which he did simply because he got off on it.

In this case, Jason is the good guy.

The first Nightmare on Elm Street was awesome.  The 2nd movie make me go WTF?  The only thing I liked about the film, was the main characters gf, she was good looking.  The 3rd film was quite good and more interesting in itself.  The 4th film had it problems, but was still decent.  The 5th was decent, but since I have yet to see the uncut version, I'm kinda stuck in the middle of opinion.

Freddy is more evil than Jason in that sense.  I may be mistaken, and I may have to rewatch it, but in Freddy's Dead, didn't his stepfather beat the crap out of him when he was a kid?  That led to Freddy killing small animals or something.  All I remember is the dad was Alice Cooper.

Hmmm, I think I might have missed Freddy's Dead. Was that the last one before Wes Craven's New Nightmare?

Yeah it was.  What's funny is that Freddy's Dead was so bad that the new DVD just shows pictures of Alice Cooper and one of Tom Arnold, who both had small roles in the film.

re: Freddy vs Jason (damn I'm digressing) - from watching the documentary on it, it pays a lot of homage to Dracula vs Frankenstein, where Freddy (like Dracula) is the more evil and the lumbering Jason (like Franky's monster) is the lesser of two evils.

Yeah Jason is definitely more sympathetic ...more of a manipulated animal/golem/retard where as Freddy is just a string-pulling child molester. 

But back to Elm Street 3, it's definitely when the series started taking a lighter tone ...and more focus was on Freddy as a serial killer and they seemed to try to tone down his history as a child molester as he was becoming somewhat of a hero to many a teenage boy at the time (seemingly anyway). 

I think I already mentioned this, but, I always found it strange that Freddy wanted to "kill" all the Elm street children.  You'd think that if he was pseudo-immortal and able to mess with people in their dreams that he wouldn't want any of them to die...I'm surprised he didn't just torture them throughout their entire life.  And why did the parents get off scott free (well as far as the dream haunting anyway)? 

I think the parents 'got off' as far as the dream haunting went, because Freddy figured it'd more painful for a parent to watch their own kid die at his hands, in a place they couldn't help their kids: their dreams.  If he went after the parents, who sort of beat him before by setting him on fire, they could beat him again. 

Plus it worked out as well, because not only could the parents not help their kids, but they're the ones who killed Freddy, giving him his powers.

Nightmare 3 is my favorite of the series, after parts 1&6.

Yeah, Freddy's Dead was part 6 and New Nightmare was technically part 7 though it was it's own self contained story in a way.

Hello everybody, elm Street nightmare I like a lot.
The first and third best for me, but I liked them all.  :smile:

Greetings