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How long does Amy Winehouse have ... to live?

I thought of doing a poll, but I think that would be in poor taste. (More so than just speculating, barely)  But I wouldn't be surprised if the Vegas odds makers weren't taking bets.

Black Tar junkie (http://web4health.info/en/answers/bio-drug-slang.htm) Amy Winehouse is a bluesy singer is self destruction in front of the world. If you don't know her ...

Amy Winehouse wanders the streets semi-naked - as her mother-in-law says: 'She's taking more drugs than ever' (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=499349&in_page_id=1773)

So how long does she have? Every know's she needs to say NO NO NO to the drugs and head back to rehab (http://www.mp3-easy.com/mp3blog/2006/11/watch-amy-winehouse-rehab-music-video.html).

Amy Winehouse - Rehab Music Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKVbgkfFygY

(linky fixed the other one had the embedding disabled)


If I was a bettin' man I'd say 12 months tops.

Isn't she the one who recently showed up 30 minutes late to a performance, apparently drunk or drugged, and then cursed and yelled at the audience?  I can hardly care when rich or famous people self destruct.  It does make it obvious that character and self-control are not something you can pay for in any way, shape, or form.  You have to earn those with blood, sweat, and tears.  And, quite often, by eating a bit of rotten crow.

She is the one and was boo'd off stage after about 3 songs she slurred and barely made it through. I agree they reap what they sow.

Damn shame when anyone enters that addiction death spiral.  Instead of those dumbass "This is your brains on drugs" ads, they should just show her and Britney Spears montages;  "See kids, if you do drugs you could wind up as a worse parent than Kevin Federline"

There is a nice theory that states that people don't self destruct because they became stars (and earn tons of money), but that they become stars because because they self destruct. Or, rather, show certain characteristics that are associated with self destruction. Most artist that avoid this can clearly separate between their "artist ego" and their "real ego". Rammstein pops into my mind. I recently saw a documentary on them, and although I don't like the music, the guys themselves seemed to be quite nice in real life AND they said clearly that their music is a performance, or a role they play when on stage. For the opposite a good example is Robbie Williams. He definitely does not separate between stage life and real life, but is by far more successful than e.g. Rammstein. So some scientists say that a specific type of character is more likely to be successful in entertainment professions (narcissistic, extremely outgoing persons for example), but these character issues are correlated with a affinity to self destruction. There is a nice article on this in the SPIEGEL magazine, unfortunately in German, but I think this phenomenon is global.

I'd say less time than Britney. 

I agree with Frank. This is true not just of entertainers but of many professions. People who have trouble separating their own identity from the job they do are often going to succeed in their work. The problem is that it takes a toll on other parts of their lives - family, health, personal happiness. This is especially true of very public jobs that require people to work beyond 9 to 5 - actors, singers, journalists, politicians, clergy, doctors, cops, etc. Only people with a strong character, a healthy outlook and especially an ability to set boundaries are going to achieve the same kind of success without doing the damage.

Like the old saying goes, success is the worst thing that can happen to some people.

I may be in the minority here but I thought that she looked quite tasty when she had more weight on her.

  But anyway, it's a shame she's p*ssing away her fame and fortune as she is a great singer when she isn't so loaded up that she's either yelling at the paying audience or slurring her way through particular songs.

I saw her on Letterman a while back and she delivered a nice performance there but she's just too erratic in nature right now for me to see anyone  paying to see her live.

I doubt you are in the minority, when she had some weight on her she looked ... oh I don't know, healthy?

Now she just looks like a bony heroin hooker.

Yeah, Ms. Winehouse may have a decent singing voice, but that's about it.
She's one ugly broad!

She even made Maxim's list of The Five Unsexiest Women Alive (http://www.maximonline.com/Girls/Thefiveunsexiestwomenalive/slideshow/435.aspx).

I think she's very talented, and was not unattractive (though definitely not my type).  Though she is unattractive these days.  It's sad how quickly she's spiralling out of control in front of the whole world. 

Amy who? :question:

Are those WHITE BOOGERS?

(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/12_01/AmyNoseBIG0612_468x490.jpg)

She's been nominated for 6 Grammies from what I've read.

Man, she needs to get her teeth fixed!

Wow. Her clown make-up is the only thing holding her face together.

She's British you know so bad teeth and British is rather redundant.

(No offense to my Brit friends or my eastern European friends with gray teeth.)

Yeah, great point there................   :teddyr:

Her body kind of reminds me of the backside of the door on the men's bathroom at the local Texaco station. 

(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/12_01/amywinehouseBIG_468x621.jpg)

The sad part is that the mens room at the local Texaco Station is likely cleaner.

"For a good time call 555-AMYW"

C'mon now...!  That's not nice!  She can't help it if the coke crusts to her nostrils... or is it heroin? 

You're a real bastard...  :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: I can't stop laughing at that swipe...  :bouncegiggle:  :thumbup:

Nobody seem to know where she is hiding her drugs ... I wonder where could they be? :question:

(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/05_02/winehouseLL_468x795.jpg)

:bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:

I've always wondered if that huge bulb of hair on top of her head is real or not.

I mean, look at that pic above.
How the heck is it all held together?
Pins?  Hairspray?
Both?

It's a tent worm nest!

 Rember the line from the original the LONGEST YARD that Burt Reynolds uses on Bernadette Peters...commenting about her big-a$$ hair?

"Ever find any spiders in it?"   :bouncegiggle:

 This is cruel...we should stop.... :bluesad:.....

  :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:

I was thinking it looked like a giant spider's egg sac. Eventually, they'll all swarm out and devour her, then balloon away.

I'm only vaguely following her downward spiral, heard enough of her music to agree it is a major waste of talent. I'll give her career another year, and figure she'll die one way or another in about two-three years if she doesn't get serious about getting clean. I mean look how long Scott Weiland has hung on.

She's a stringy looking mess now but I've got to say in that "before" photo from early in the topic, damn even more of a waste! She had curves and plenty of them, and her face looks attractive, if not conventionally beautiful. Great eyes in that one too. Damn shame what's she's doing to herself and anyone who cares about her.

Agreed. That before picture is incredible, and makes the scary, skanky after look all the worse.

I also agree with the earlier post stating that she looks like a mensroom wall. I've said it before that all-over tattoos look great if some time and effort is spent planning an overall scheme that fits together. A bunch of little disconnected images all over just looks like crap.

It keeps getting better...

http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/54428417

Well now she is on CRACK it seems ...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/article710911.ece (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/article710911.ece)

She must have some friends who are looking after her or incredibly good luck, because I can't believe she's not dead in an alley somewhere.  I like her album, she's got an unusual voice and her own style, but the circus freak she's made of herself makes it hard to enjoy her music.

Yeah, we don't need another Janis Joplin.  I'm opposed to drug prohibition as I think the resulting crime is worse than what went on before, but part of me does want someone in this situation locked up in a hospital for a few months.

Just my 2 cents worth:

Some entertainers have great talent, so when they get out of control on drugs and booze, the public tolerates it.or at least sympathises and somebody tries to help.   Amy Winehouse is not one of those people.

She has the most awful voice so her self destruction is grossly self indulgent and I can't imagine anyone feeling sorry for her or wanting to help her.  Her behaviour is the epitome of narcissism and I for one couldn't care less if she shuffled off this mortal coil, foaming at the mouth.  I've never liked her music or the image she portarys with that ridiculous beehive hairdo and badly applied makeup.

I give her 12 months, tops, as well.

Here's the latest news on that Miss Thang.  Not everybody likes her, particularly her "froggy" or "mumbling" singing style, but I don't know... I am a huge fan of NEIL YOUNG who "can't sing a note" for real, though he sure can write wonderful songs... WINEHOUSE might claim the same. 

I wish her well and hope she can get her "act" together:

Winehouse Says Yes to Rehab

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=7&entry_id=23721 (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=7&entry_id=23721)

Winehouse Says Yes to Rehab OH please she's going to get clean by Feb 10th! BAHHAHAHAHAHAHA! In time for the Grammy's ... for pete sake if she was to stop all drug use right now, right this very day, she'd still be testing hot on Feb 10th and they think she'll be clean and sober and stay that way ... really who's on drugs here?

Good point Cheezeflix.

I've never been into rehab myself because I've never been addicted to anything (well, maybe buying yarn and knitting needles, but that's still socially acceptable  :teddyr:), so I don't know much about it.

But logic would suggest that anyone THAT addicted would take longer than 2 weeks to get straight.  I'm surprised that she hasn't gotten into that controversial treatment where you go into hospital and they place all your drug addled blood with new stuff and and presto/change-o you're clean and cured.

The mindset that you'd go into rehab with a goal date in mind reflects no commitment to rehab.

She will fail, until she learns to put all of the crap (ie, her career) in second place, after her life and her health.

She is wasting her time, and she's being pretentious.

Amy Winehouse puts rehab in spotlight 
By Sue Zeidler
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Rehab has never been hotter in Hollywood, and nowhere was that more apparent than on Sunday at the Grammy awards with British singer Amy Winehouse's five big wins, more than any other artist...

http://www.reuters.com/article/musicNews/idUSN1059525720080211 (http://www.reuters.com/article/musicNews/idUSN1059525720080211)

Amy Winehouse wins so many Grammys?   :buggedout:

This just proves what I've been saying for years:  awards shows are a scam and are no reflection of true talent or who is actually most deserving.

Must be based solely on record sales.

I'll admit I like her sound and style of singing, but I won't buy her stuff as I'm not going to support her habits. I'll keep my money and spend it on mine.

The Grammys are notorious for giving BS awards for decades.  That said, it doesn't mean that they sometimes don't get it right.  There weren't too many records that I heard last year I liked nearly as well as Back To Black.  It's really quite good. 

I hate award shows of any kind, not just the Grammys.

They seem superficial and insincere and are populated by all these people who get paid more money than God for doing little more than pretending to be other people or putting out any old drivel as far as music goes.

Worse still, there seems to have been an explosion in recent years of people who are just famous. Period. I mean, they might have done something to become famous at some point, but they don't seem to be doing much of anything these days except getting publicity. I have to admit there are a few celebrities out there who are a complete mystery to me, as in I have no idea what they're famous for.

AMY WINEHOUSE is famous for issuing two superior albums, the latter one, Back To Black, is superb.  She also wrote all of the songs.  A very troubled lady, indeed, but also enormously talented.

Oh, for sure. Amy Winehouse is making music, which is a point in her favour. I was making more of a generic comment in response to Killer Bees. This link sums it up pretty well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famous_for_being_famous (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famous_for_being_famous)

Report: Amy Winehouse arrested on suspicion of assault
LONDON - Amy Winehouse was arrested on suspicion of assault Friday following reports that she scuffled with two men during a wild night out, Sky News television reported...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080425/ap_on_en_mu/people_winehouse (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080425/ap_on_en_mu/people_winehouse)

God she's still alive? AMAZING!!!

And kicking, apparently.  Or did she only use her fists and head?

From what I've heard, it seemed to be little more than a slap, but there are growing calls to have her sectioned until she sorts herself out. I'm not at all keen on her music in general but I did like her cover of The Zuton's "Valerie" with Mick Ronson.

Singer Winehouse falls ill, misses Paris concert
LONDON (Reuters) - British soul singer Amy Winehouse pulled out of a Paris concert at short notice on Friday after falling ill at home in London, her spokesman has said.
 
The 24-year-old, whose battle against drug addiction has overshadowed her recording successes, had been due to appear at the Rock En Seine festival in Paris...
 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080830/music_nm/britain_winehouse_dc (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080830/music_nm/britain_winehouse_dc)

This is not for the squeamish.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06ELPK_Hfx4

Report: Amy Winehouse Could Be Brain-Damaged From Drugs

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,414542,00.html (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,414542,00.html)


What do they mean ... "Could be .."? She's been brain damaged a long time.

We HAVE to party sometime.   :bouncegiggle:

You're a cool customer.  I am saddened to hear more crap about her.  She is one of the great living recording artists. 

not sure if this has been posted yet but its worth a second look anyhow...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCuaMngRgak
I wonder what shes doing behind her head? :buggedout:

She's had too long already.

Yeah, I'm dark.

Winehouse Charged With Assaulting Fan
Ending a two-month drought in which she apparently had no newsworthy contact with the British legal system, Amy Winehouse appeared on Thursday in a London police station where she was arrested on a charge of having attacked a fan, The Associated Press said. Sherene Flash, a dancer, has said that Ms. Winehouse, the British soul singer, hit her in the eye at a charity ball in Berkeley Square on Sept. 26 when she asked to take a picture of Ms. Winehouse. A police spokesman told The A.P. that Ms. Winehouse had appeared voluntarily at the station, where she was charged with common assault and released. She is scheduled to appear in court on March 17 to answer the charge...
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/07/arts/music/07arts-WINEHOUSECHA_BRF.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/07/arts/music/07arts-WINEHOUSECHA_BRF.html) 

She is still ALIVE???

She has to be Keith Richards love child, that's the only way she is still kicking.

I saw a recent pic of her the other day and you know what, you may be on to something with the Keith Richards thing. 

maybe its the quality of the drugs she buys that is keeping her alive...

Maybe she's a zombie.

No, even zombies can be killed .... it seems Winehouse can't.

Bless her, she's trying though  :wink:

I feel bad for Amy Winehouse and I hold out hope she'll pull herself up. She's talented and there's tragedy to anyone's self destruction.

So...dead by Thursday, then ?

 :wink:

Ugh, she needs to get her act together or her story won't end happily.  If Britney Spears can actually recover from her problems for a bit (I think she has recovered, I haven't heard her in the news lately so she should be ok), it can be possible for Amy to get better.

Go away if you're gonna be optomistic.  :wink:


We're on this board waiting for her to drop dead.

I don't think she CAN die, , if nuclear war broke out, I believe it would be HER, and cockroaches that survive.

Not me.   :bluesad:

Agree; that's vicious.  She is, despite her media portrayal, a human being just like the rest of us.

Funny how the internet, and media, can help one lose sight of that.  Don't get me wrong, I'm guilty of this too.

Amy's fresh out of rehab and, um...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25X3-k09LSA&feature=player_detailpage

^^ comedy meltdown

- well, not for all the guys who forked out to go to that show, or her backing band, or her record label/promoters etc or her family and friends...

seriously how out of it is she there? and she's just come out of rehab... I'm not actually a fan of her or her music but if I was, I would've just lost all sympathy with her from this point. what a loser

Funny, I was just thinking about where she was at this morning.  Drunk and/or stoned as usual.  Good to see nothing has changed.

I'm still counting down the days.

Its usually kinda sad when someome dies, however when there's a giant, flashing neon sign above them, sometimes its best just to go with it.

Or maybe I'm just a cold hearted person, I don't know...


 :question:

From what I understand, she's been trying to get help for a few years now.  I think more than anything she needs psychiatric help, and I'm not be facetious in saying that.  If she can't cut the drugs, it's probably because there's something deeper involved.

If it's not the drugs, it's the drink. If it's not the drink, then it's drugs. She needs to quit performing for however long it takes and try and stay out of the public eye to sort herself out. It can be done. She needs to want to, but obviously she doesn't. The footage I watched from the concert in Belgrade is truly embarrassing and is a disgraceful way to treat her fans, band and promoters. It was like a train wreck, but I'm glad her backing band stepped in to at least give the crowd some sort of professional performance.

She canceled the rest of her Euro tour.  Apparently she does want to get out of the public eye so she can "recover".  Let's hope it sticks this time.

I'm certain her teeth are the last of her issues.

The answer is 3 years, 7 months and 20 days.

Amy Winehouse, 27, found dead at her London flat

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2018020/Amy-Winehouse-dead--Found-dead-London-flat.html#ixzz1SwqadGT0 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2018020/Amy-Winehouse-dead--Found-dead-London-flat.html#ixzz1SwqadGT0)

R.I.P., though I've never heard any of her songs.

Hmmm....

Nope.

Still don't feel anything.

Maybe I really am cruel...


 :bluesad:

This was pretty much sign posted with neon lights.
I can undertand it being very upsetting for her parents though.

she should've gone to rehab

Well, I will at least do the following;

"I offer you a Vulcan prayer, Ms. Winehouse. May your death bring you the peace you never found in life."

She had real talent, shame. RIP

She did.  Multiple times.  Never lasted more than a few days, maybe a week there.  Kept checking out.

I know very little about her, except her much-publicized addiction problems.
It's just sad to see a young person throw their life away.

Agree with you Indy. Sadly she did seem to possess talent...

Couldn't believe she was only 27...she looked much older.

Very sad news.  AMY WINEHOUSE was enormously talented.  Unfortunately her drug habit was even bigger. 

Not meaning to offend anyone here, because this has more to do with posts on news sites, I'm really annoyed by all the comments about what a tragedy this is because she was just so talented.

Would it be less tragic, less of a senseless waste if she wasn't famous? Or if she was a mediocre singer? Does "talent" excuse her from any responsibility for the choices she made? It just seems irrelevant to me.

And I never saw that much talent, personally. But that's just my own opinion.

I think her age has a lot to do with it. Plus, this kind of thing happens everyday and it doesn't get reported on that widely (in this country anyway). There's a lot more interest because she is in the public eye. It is good that she should be receiving criticism as well as praise because substance abuse should not be glorified.

Who excused her?  Which part is "irrelevant"?  Her "fame"?  Well, you don't know, you're puffin'.  It seems blubbering to me.  Yes, I proclaim unto you (:teddyr:) enormous talent certainly warrants lament if wasted (though you may not agree) but I have not read one post here that suggested this was tragic because of her fame.  Her fame was a by-product of a genuinely remarkable recording artist.  She wrote and sang her own songs, and they are great.  Don't skirt your true opinion.  Your comment about her talent is the most telling aspect of your remarks.  You din't git 'er.  Okay.   :smile: :bluesad:  You don't know what you're missin'... or your ass from your elbow.  :thumbup: :smile:  Who cares 'bout "mediocre singers"?  They die every day.  AMY WINEHOUSE's death is tragic because of her enormous talent, which is wasted.  I am truly sorry there won't be a third album.  

Everybody, famous or not, who goes down a path of self-destruction has potential that is wasted. Potential that might not even be recognized, much less realized. There are people who don't have access to the best treatment or support, who don't have people to worry about them or lament their wasted potential. Who might not even understand what a serious problem they have, or what they can do about it. Most everyone starts out as an innocent child with potential, but there will always be some who end up leading deeply troubled, sometimes short lives. Some have strikes against them from the beginning. To me, that's tragic.

Amy Winehouse realized her potential to a greater degree than most people. She had two successful albums and fans who wish there could be more. She has fans who cared about her, family who cared about her, business people with a vested interest in her physical and mental health, plenty of resources at her disposal. All the help she could want. And yet she still managed to destroy herself physically, and she was well on her way to doing it professionally. To me, she's more than cancelled out any points she scored for musical success in the past. She got the outcome everyone knew she was headed for, without so much as a slight detour along the way that looked like she might actually give a damn. I find it difficult to muster up any pity. The fact that she was a successful singer at one time doesn't make it more tragic for me, but rather more disgusting. Even if I did enjoy her music, I don't think I would be lamenting the loss of her talent as much as I would hold her responsible for throwing it away.

I dunno...not famliar with her music..but I feel rotton for saying making jokes at her expense now...

And what insight are you offering?  Really man, you tipped your hand.  And I don't disagree that she "threw it away" but I'm also not keeping a scorecard with "any points she scored".  Like I had written, she was a train-wreck.  Whether you appreciate her music or not, you'll hear her name again.  And again. 

Not sure why you want to debate this so aggressively. I've only stated that something annoys me, and explained my personal feelings. Didn't say anything disparaging about the fans themselves, and made it pretty clear that I was not referring specifically to any comments made here. My post following yours is purely coincidental, which is why I added that disclaimer. If the remark that I "tipped my hand" is referring to my openly admitting I'm not a fan, I really don't understand. To use the same metaphor, my cards were all on the table and I had no reason to conceal them. Really, I'm not sure what there is to argue about. I'm not even sure we disagree that much on anything other than whether the music is good, which is really beside the point. I don't like her music, I don't hate her music, I don't really have any strong feelings about it one way or the other, so yeah, I never understood what the fuss was about. I think my opinion in this situation is shaped by observing without any interest in her work, as purely a celebrity's self destruction and the way people react to it. I don't think I'd have been more than vaguely aware of her if not for that.

^  Yeah guys, this doesn't need to get heated. I was actually having a bit of a debate at work today, about this. I was talking to this guy who was basically berating her for the drug/booze dependency and claimed that her music was "mad music for mad women". When pressed on it further he just admitted that he'd only heard one chorus of one song by her, that song being "Rehab". I've been talking about this a lot of the past day or two and it's the ignorance that annoys me regarding not only her talent as an original artist but about drug-taking also. I'm not an Amy Winehouse fan, but did make excellent music and did have talent. Her two records will be heralded as classics of the past decade, because honestly, there wasn't that much competition anyway.

I'm not debating nor am I "aggressive".   I might say you are; who used more words here, you or me?   :question:  Really.  But you know me well enough to know that I always write what I think.  You did write, disclaimed or not: "I'm really annoyed by all the comments about what a tragedy this is because she was just so talented."   You didn't like her.  Got it. 

Nope, not aggressive at all. You're the picture of calm rationality. :tongueout:

Well, AHD, I personally relate to your sentiment on the issue of Amy Winehouse, but overall I don't see the need for what's going on here.

Eh, Flick, nothing's going on here.  If AndyC has nothing more to say, neither do I.  We disagree, that's all.  No debate and certainly no argument. 

She made two great records.  In fact, some would argue that her being somewhat successful here helped re-open the door for some other British artists, especially females, to chart here again.  After her successes, artists like Duffy, Eliza Doolittle, Adele, Florence and The Machine, and La Roux have followings that, in part, were paved by her.

Sadly, her talent's become overshadowed by her numerous tabloid exploits and addictions.  It's a tough thing to overcome.  Numerous people can vouch for that. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1evzhSast8&feature=relmfu

That's true. I'm not particularly a fan, but it's always sad when the media reacts with the standard presumption of guilt and assumes she died of an overdose. The autopsy is initially inconclusive, and there were no drugs found in her home. I'm not saying she did or not, but so far, there's nothing indicating an overdose other than her reputation. That saddest part of that is that it takes people about 1.5 seconds to assume the cause once the media starts making it's sick jokes. I feel sorry for her family that would probably like to find out the cause of death without all the media bulls**t proclaiming her an ovedose when initial evidence does not suggest it.

Her father has been particularly vocal about AMY's drug abuse and self-destructive path.  And, as I'm sure AndyC would agree, he felt that whatever happened to her would be entirely AMY's own fault.  She had a number of health problems, including early-onset emphysema. 

I don't doubt it. My main point is simply the media frenzy. It's more than a little sickening to me. And people just eat it up.

Yeh, I agree.  I think I am trying to share that I do agree with Andy's disgust, if I read him right.  Yet, I also admit to being a fan, and I am always sad when an artist I admire dies, even if through self-destruction.  I am saddened by AMY WINEHOUSE's passing, as she was a rare artist, and I love her records.

It's always tragic when someone dies as a result of their own self-destructive demons. It' aslo always tragic when talent is wasted. How tragic is relative to how close you felt to that person, either through a personal relationship or by virtue of that talent.