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Title: b-movie PHOBIA!!
Post by: KYGOTC on December 21, 2007, 01:07:12 AM
"I Spit On your Grave" has been sitting on my shelf for MONTHS now and I havent watched it because Ive heard such HORRID things about it. I mean, I can sit thru the goriest movies filled with exposed vital organs, needles impaling eyeballs, puke, p**s, and poop, and not even flinch, but a 40 minute rape scene just seems like something that might discharge my brain! But I STILL really want to watch it! As a b-movie fan, I fell that MUST as it's one of the most notorious bad movies of all time!

*sigh* Has this sort of thing ever happened to anyone ELSE?


Title: Re: b-movie PHOBIA!!
Post by: SynapticBoomstick on December 21, 2007, 02:04:07 AM
40 minutes? I don't think you're alone, that sounds beyond my B-movie limits, too. Sounds like the entire damn movie, actually.


Title: Re: b-movie PHOBIA!!
Post by: RCMerchant on December 21, 2007, 02:22:15 AM
 I've seen it. A very depressing movie. You could fast forward over the rape to the revenge...but it's not even a well made movie. Not really worth seeing,IMHO. If it was interesting,or scary....yeah ok. No music, No suspense. Just sadistic and depressing....and BORING.   :thumbdown:       


Title: Re: b-movie PHOBIA!!
Post by: TheDope on December 21, 2007, 07:18:11 AM
Yeah, I won't see or own ISOYG for the same reason.  There are just moral limits you have to set for yourself when seeing a movie.

Besides that'n, I can watch just about any other movie out there with any matter of violence, language, nudity  :bouncegiggle: or other such combined nonsense.

However, there are one or two movies on my shelf here by the desk that I have not yet brought myself to pop in Ye Olde Player, just because...and keep in mind I absolutely love bad movies, horrible ones, the worst-of-the-worst...of the bad things I've heard tell of them.  Not necessarily due to a moral conundrum, but the fact that they are worse than bad - they're BORING bad.


Title: Re: b-movie PHOBIA!!
Post by: KYGOTC on December 21, 2007, 10:56:04 AM


However, there are one or two movies on my shelf here by the desk that I have not yet brought myself to pop in Ye Olde Player, just because...and keep in mind I absolutely love bad movies, horrible ones, the worst-of-the-worst...of the bad things I've heard tell of them.  Not necessarily due to a moral conundrum, but the fact that they are worse than bad - they're BORING bad.

What movies would those be?


Title: Re: b-movie PHOBIA!!
Post by: Doc Daneeka on December 21, 2007, 02:52:16 PM
House of the Dead 2?


Title: Re: b-movie PHOBIA!!
Post by: Rev. Powell on December 21, 2007, 03:08:34 PM

However, there are one or two movies on my shelf here by the desk that I have not yet brought myself to pop in Ye Olde Player, just because...and keep in mind I absolutely love bad movies, horrible ones, the worst-of-the-worst...of the bad things I've heard tell of them.  Not necessarily due to a moral conundrum, but the fact that they are worse than bad - they're BORING bad.

TITANIC and GIGLI?


Title: Re: b-movie PHOBIA!!
Post by: TheDope on December 21, 2007, 05:04:55 PM
Gigli is definitely one of them.

Others: Sorcerer (the Wages of Fear remake with Roy Scheider), The Adventures of Pluto Nash, Tormented, Nukie (a GREAT example).


Title: Re: b-movie PHOBIA!!
Post by: 316zombie on December 23, 2007, 03:35:25 PM
which version of tormented?


Title: Re: b-movie PHOBIA!!
Post by: RCMerchant on December 23, 2007, 06:20:43 PM
which version of tormented?



The only TORMENTED I know of is this one-

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGmqwIb-x9k

"TOM STEWART KILLED ME!"   :buggedout:


Title: Re: b-movie PHOBIA!!
Post by: TheDope on December 23, 2007, 06:22:42 PM
which version of tormented?

The Bert I. Gordon one, non MST-ed version.

NOT the bondage video from '93 I just saw on IMDb.   :twirl:


Title: Re: b-movie PHOBIA!!
Post by: Mr_Vindictive on December 23, 2007, 07:15:44 PM
Am I the only one who can recommend I Spit On Your Grave?

I had the same problem as you KYGOTC.  At the time, Netflix didn't exist and Blockbuster certainly didn't carry the film.  If I wanted to make myself see the film then I would have to buy it.

A co-worker of mine when I worked for the state, knew of the film and actually owned it.   :buggedout:  She said she saw it on a double bill with Dawn Of The Dead back in the day, and she let me borrow the VHS.

It's actually not as bad as what everyone makes it out to be.  The rape scene is extensive but it mostly consists of close ups of the attackers, not much more than that.  I ended up fast forwarding through the rape, not because it was excessive but because it was just going on and on.  Rape scenes, if they have to be in a film, should be done quickly and to the point.  They shouldn't be dragged on and on.

Anyway, once you get past the rape, the film is pretty interesting.  As RC said, the film has no music which makes it so much more haunting.  Give it a watch, it has a bunch of scenes that I would consider classic.


Title: Re: b-movie PHOBIA!!
Post by: Shadow on December 23, 2007, 08:14:58 PM
A friend and I rented this back in the 80's, thinking it was going to be a typical slasher. Boy, were we surprised! I have not seen it since then, but I do recall how the rape and brutalization seemed to go on and on. Of course, being a male, the scene that will be forever seared into my memory is the bathtub sequence. OUCH. :buggedout:


Title: Re: b-movie PHOBIA!!
Post by: odinn7 on December 23, 2007, 09:37:31 PM
It's funny in a way...as I get older and I have a daughter and a new love in my life...I find I have trouble with "brutality" movies. I love horror...I love gore...but I can really do without the sensless brutality in some movies. Hostel II comes to mind right off the bat...I saw it a few nights ago because someone had bought it for my birthday and I kept being questioned as to when I would watch it...so I broke down and did. The movie was weak but I also didn't like it because of the senseless brutality that the women faced. It makes me uneasy these days to sit and view that. I felt really odd when the nerd girl got it...I mean...at least make me hate the characters first, you know?


Title: Re: b-movie PHOBIA!!
Post by: KYGOTC on December 23, 2007, 11:10:34 PM
I felt really odd when the nerd girl got it...I mean...at least make me hate the characters first, you know?

Yea, that sort of thing hapened in "Snakes on a Plane" with that one couple who were going on their honeymoon and not being jerks or hatable charecters at al but get a realy nastey death anyway. That guys EYES were foaming from all the snake venom, man!


Title: Re: b-movie PHOBIA!!
Post by: Sister Grace on December 24, 2007, 05:04:25 AM
I had a bit of a phobia about Salos, after all the hype that was built up, i was worried i wouldn't be able to stomach it. and although it was brash, it wasn't that bad. it definetly wasn't tasteful either though..


Title: Re: b-movie PHOBIA!!
Post by: the ghoul on December 24, 2007, 12:29:12 PM
B-movie phobia???  You must be joking.  Doesn't exist for me. I love the stuff.  I haven't seen "I Spit on Your Grave" yet, but it sure as hell isn't because I'm afraid to watch it.  I just have other movies that are higher up on my to be watched list.  Quit yer whining, pop the movie in your player, and watch it already!!!  Sheesh!  And as far as nudity is concerned, there's nothing wrong with that!


Title: Re: b-movie PHOBIA!!
Post by: Joe on December 24, 2007, 01:51:29 PM
wholeheartedly agree with ghoul.

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It's funny in a way...as I get older and I have a daughter and a new love in my life...I find I have trouble with "brutality" movies. I love horror...I love gore...but I can really do without the sensless brutality in some movies. Hostel II comes to mind right off the bat...I saw it a few nights ago because someone had bought it for my birthday and I kept being questioned as to when I would watch it...so I broke down and did. The movie was weak but I also didn't like it because of the senseless brutality that the women faced. It makes me uneasy these days to sit and view that. I felt really odd when the nerd girl got it...I mean...at least make me hate the characters first, you know?

thats what hostel is about though. people being bought to be killed in any which way the buyer sees fit. if that aint your bag man then dont watch them. if you saw hostel then you knew the deal when you went into this one. but i guess you feel more for the woman characters rather then the male cast of the first. im not bashing you or nothin btw im just sayin. hostel 2 i thought was neat cause the movie bascially played from the POV of the killer(s) so i guess that brings the suspense down a notch cause you know who they are and what they are gonna do and why, you know?


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Am I the only one who can recommend I Spit On Your Grave?

I had the same problem as you KYGOTC.  At the time, Netflix didn't exist and Blockbuster certainly didn't carry the film.  If I wanted to make myself see the film then I would have to buy it.

A co-worker of mine when I worked for the state, knew of the film and actually owned it.   Buggedout  She said she saw it on a double bill with Dawn Of The Dead back in the day, and she let me borrow the VHS.

It's actually not as bad as what everyone makes it out to be.  The rape scene is extensive but it mostly consists of close ups of the attackers, not much more than that.  I ended up fast forwarding through the rape, not because it was excessive but because it was just going on and on.  Rape scenes, if they have to be in a film, should be done quickly and to the point.  They shouldn't be dragged on and on.

Anyway, once you get past the rape, the film is pretty interesting.  As RC said, the film has no music which makes it so much more haunting.  Give it a watch, it has a bunch of scenes that I would consider classic.


first i wanna say that i thought that blockbuster comment was funny because i bought the unrated VHS from there when they were getting rid of all of their VHS. I do own this on dvd though.

ill recommend this as well if you dig exploitation/revenge flicks i mean it might not be the best movie but its definetly a staple.  the rape scene is rather extensive but when you see it , its not what your expecting, at least it wasnt what i was expecting. its pretty tame for the most part, but i mean its a friggen rape its not gonna be all sunshine and rainbows. by the middle-end of the film your rooting for this chick cause shes kicking ass an taking names like nobodys buisness. the tub scene that was mentioned earlier makes me cringe everytime.


i was going to say " Are you kidding me? you can watch all that and not some stupid rape scene?" then i realized that saliva grosses me the f**k out (if someone gets spit in the face in a movie)  and when people scratch their fingernails in movies ( ala stir of echos) i hate it. but i like blood, guts and everything else cept spit and fingernail scratching.


Title: Re: b-movie PHOBIA!!
Post by: 316zombie on December 24, 2007, 03:47:52 PM
TGWD, try tormented,it's actually not a bad movie!it has a bad rep for several reasons pertaining to its distribution(i.e.on the spook show spectacular dvd,or alpha's version),i know mst had a part in that too(still an mst fan,lol!),mainly for THEIR rep for bad movies.trsust,me,you'll walk around shouting"tom stewart killed me!"for days! :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: b-movie PHOBIA!!
Post by: TheDope on December 24, 2007, 04:27:27 PM
TGWD, try tormented,it's actually not a bad movie!it has a bad rep for several reasons pertaining to its distribution(i.e.on the spook show spectacular dvd,or alpha's version),i know mst had a part in that too(still an mst fan,lol!),mainly for THEIR rep for bad movies.trsust,me,you'll walk around shouting"tom stewart killed me!"for days! :bouncegiggle:

 :bouncegiggle:

Ehh, why not?  That which does not kill me makes me stronger.


Title: Re: b-movie PHOBIA!!
Post by: 316zombie on December 25, 2007, 03:14:03 PM
or more cynical,lol! i think it was groucho marx who phrased it that way :wink:


Title: Re: b-movie PHOBIA!!
Post by: KYGOTC on December 25, 2007, 04:52:50 PM
B-movie phobia???  You must be joking.  Doesn't exist for me. I love the stuff.  I haven't seen "I Spit on Your Grave" yet, but it sure as hell isn't because I'm afraid to watch it.  I just have other movies that are higher up on my to be watched list.  Quit yer whining, pop the movie in your player, and watch it already!!!  Sheesh!  And as far as nudity is concerned, there's nothing wrong with that!

see, its not the nudity that im afraid to see, its the over the top RAPE that im afraid to see. Dig?


Title: Re: b-movie PHOBIA!!
Post by: SynapticBoomstick on December 25, 2007, 05:50:56 PM
Yea, that sort of thing hapened in "Snakes on a Plane" with that one couple who were going on their honeymoon and not being jerks or hatable charecters at al but get a realy nastey death anyway. That guys EYES were foaming from all the snake venom, man!

Thank you! It's such a sad thing.


Title: Re: b-movie PHOBIA!!
Post by: the ghoul on December 25, 2007, 10:58:37 PM
see, its not the nudity that im afraid to see, its the over the top RAPE that im afraid to see. Dig?

Yeah I get what you are saying.  It just doesn't bother me to watch that kind of thing in a movie.  That doesn't mean I condone it in real life, of course, but I guess I've become desensitized to it on film.


Title: Re: b-movie PHOBIA!!
Post by: Dennis on December 27, 2007, 12:02:12 PM
I rented this one a long time ago, glad it only cost a dollar, I didn't like it because I think it's just a bad movie, one I wouldn't watch again. That being said as long as you have it you might as well watch it, you never know, you might like it, if not, no harm done. Now to qualify this opinion and advice, you should know that I consider the film "Beginning of the End" to be a masterpiece of cinematic artistry.


Title: Re: b-movie PHOBIA!!
Post by: Joe on December 31, 2007, 02:00:23 PM
as far as rape goes, stay the hell away from irreversible, but the movie is fantastic. its a french film by the way.