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Title: Orca
Post by: Andrew on January 06, 2008, 05:36:45 PM
The only thing more frightening than a great white shark is a killer whale, because an Orca is smarter than most humans.  If a super intelligent whale was out to get me, I would probably become a farmer in Nebraska.

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Title: Re: Orca
Post by: D-Man on January 06, 2008, 09:57:39 PM
I remember seeing Orca on TV when I was younger, and parts of it really creeped me out...namely, the premature birth from the hanging whale's mate, and Bo Derek's leg being chomped off. 

Still, though, it's interesting to see the late Richard Harris in anything before his Gladiator/Harry Potter days. 


Title: Whales
Post by: Carl on January 06, 2008, 11:21:57 PM
Note: dolphins ARE whales.  No contradiction.


Title: Re: Orca
Post by: TheMark on January 07, 2008, 12:14:43 AM
"If a super intelligent whale was out to get me, I'd probably change professions and become a farmer. Get me a big hunk of land, well away from any rivers, and grow corn."

Ok just don't answer the door.

"Who is it?"
"Land Whale!"



Title: Re: Orca
Post by: Justy on January 07, 2008, 07:05:09 PM
I remember this movie from when I was younger. I never quite looked at Shamu the same way again. Of course, now with age and in retrospect I know that the whale had a major beef and was right to demand his revenge.

Thing I learned from this movie: Whales support capital punishment.


Title: Re: Orca
Post by: BoyScoutKevin on January 07, 2008, 08:20:38 PM
No! No! The pain! The pain! Make it go away! Make it stop!


Title: Re: Orca
Post by: KYGOTC on January 08, 2008, 01:21:25 AM
Haha! Its about TIME this one got one here!  :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Orca
Post by: Jordan on January 08, 2008, 03:17:19 AM
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89 mins - The helicopter is not here to rescue her. They are chasing a Husky.

HAHAHAHAHA! That one made me laugh out loud Andrew. Very nice reference to John Carpenter's "The Thing."  :teddyr:


Title: Re: Orca
Post by: Joe the Destroyer on January 08, 2008, 03:18:12 AM
Yeah, I too remember this one from my younger years.  I also remember the director thinking he could somehow get away with King Kong vs. Orca, but we all know where that went.  I still think of this movie as essentially being like The Punisher, except Frank Castle is a killer whale and the mob are a bunch of fishermen.


Title: Re: Orca
Post by: Flangepart on January 08, 2008, 11:23:48 AM
Check out the cip again. I diid.
In the 'Orca eye view', it looks like the 'hero' is pointing his rifle at the wee beastie.
So shoot, idiot!


Title: Re: Orca
Post by: Andrew on January 08, 2008, 12:16:40 PM
Hey, I actually reviewed a movie that a lot of other people have seen!  Most of the time, I write a review and everyone seems to say, "You find really weird stuff to review."  Granted, a goal of the site is to introduce films to people, but it's also great to hear back from people about what they thought of the film.

Still uncertain where I first saw this movie, because I had always assumed it was at the drive-in.  Now I think it may have been on network TV.  The screaming whale fetus scene caught me off guard the first time I watched the DVD.  I had no memory of that scene and it's pretty freaky.  It seems to be a good bet that a TV network would have cut it out.  Screaming whale fetus is not good for the ratings.

The Orca is amazingly smart.  I wonder if it designed the alien whale-loving probe that menaces Earth in "Star Trek IV."


Title: Re: Orca
Post by: Weltall on January 08, 2008, 07:11:41 PM
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The whale's name is not K'tha-jon and it does not have a waldo harness filled with tools.
Mere words cannot express how much I love you right now. Startide Rising references just get me right there. Now if only Brin would pick up some of those threads he introduced in that book and dropped in all the subsequent ones but that's got nothing to do with the review, which would have been awesome even without the SR reference.


Title: Re: Orca
Post by: MDKing on January 08, 2008, 11:33:25 PM
Didn't see this one, but I have at least heard of it.

Does that head on pic of the Cetecean Avenger remind anyone else of the Watermelon Monster from Drunken Wu Tang?


Title: Re: Orca
Post by: Yaddo 42 on January 10, 2008, 12:56:20 AM
My mom took me to see this at the theater when I was little, can't figure why except she wanted to get out of the house on a night when dad was working overnight, she hates horror movies and killer animal movies. I honestly don't think she's all of Jaws. I wish I had the giant cardboard lobby display of the poster art I remember from when we went to see it, it had to be 8 feet long and completely garish, it was beautiful.

I was so young I didn't understand the story at the time and that the humans were the ones in the wrong. Also even at that young age I kind of "knew" who Richard Harris was, he was a familiar face anyway, perhaps from The Tonight Show, and didn't like seeing him die.

I've seen it off and on over the years since, it just gets worse and worse the older I get. And Andrew, when I've seen parts of it on AMC in recent years, they show the orca fetus scene, I know it was edited heavily around when this was a staple of syndicated movie packages on local stations, because when I saw the scene on AMC for the first time, I had absolutely no memory of it and was thrown for a second.


Title: Re: Orca
Post by: HarlotBug3 on January 10, 2008, 02:30:47 PM
"If a super intelligent whale was out to get me, I'd probably change professions and become a farmer. Get me a big hunk of land, well away from any rivers, and grow corn."

Ok just don't answer the door.

"Who is it?"
"Land Whale!"



Seriously, log in so I can give you karma for that one.  :bouncegiggle:

(already given for the helicopter is there to chase the husky reference)

My wife worked at sea world for years and might actually enjoy this one, as it seems revenge is granted where it's due, for a change. I can also remind her of the party she took me to at her gay neighbor's house. A bunch of fussy fuzzy bears educated us on the term 'giving him the orca eye'.

Hint: It references orca looking up sideways...and I responded to the knowledge with a comment about chewing blubber.


Title: Re: Orca
Post by: Andrew on January 11, 2008, 12:07:01 PM
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The whale's name is not K'tha-jon and it does not have a waldo harness filled with tools.
Mere words cannot express how much I love you right now. Startide Rising references just get me right there. Now if only Brin would pick up some of those threads he introduced in that book and dropped in all the subsequent ones but that's got nothing to do with the review, which would have been awesome even without the SR reference.

The fictional universe he created for "Startide Rising" is full of possibilities and the other books I've read were good, but I read "Startide Rising" first and it has always been my favorite.  I don't like putting too many references to other works in the reviews, but K'tha-jon and the whale's quotes in Trinary seem quite natural.

I've seen it off and on over the years since, it just gets worse and worse the older I get. And Andrew, when I've seen parts of it on AMC in recent years, they show the orca fetus scene, I know it was edited heavily around when this was a staple of syndicated movie packages on local stations, because when I saw the scene on AMC for the first time, I had absolutely no memory of it and was thrown for a second.

Makes you wonder about all those films we remember from network television in the 70's and 80's.  Were there over-the-top scenes missing from a lot of them?


Title: Re: Orca
Post by: Mr. DS on January 12, 2008, 11:13:49 AM
I rate the whale fetus scene as one of the most disturbing images I've ever seen in a movie.  And very little disturbs me in movies. Overall this film isn't a bad watch and Harris's character is refreshing in the fact he understands he's done wrong.  Too bad it gets lumped into the "Jaws rip-off" field a lot. 


Title: Re: Orca
Post by: Yaddo 42 on January 13, 2008, 06:54:47 PM
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Makes you wonder about all those films we remember from network television in the 70's and 80's.  Were there over-the-top scenes missing from a lot of them?

No doubt, I've had those Whoa! Where did that come from? moments.

I remember seeing The Longest Yard on pay cable after years of only seeing TV edits, and being surprised how much rawer the language was than I would have guessed from the edits.

From Beyond was another one that had tons of stuff missing or cut around when it was in regular rotation. Yet our local independent/later Fox station (where it was shown a lot) used to air uncut films during the late night movie (especially on weeknights) during the "safe harbor" hours. I saw the uncut version of The Klansman that way, with all the rapes, nudity, violence, and racist language there plain as day. They Live got edited, Dolls and Day of the Dead (IIRC) didn't.

I saw part of Robocop this afternoon on our CW station (lazy stupid Sunday), there's big chunks of that film missing obviously. They pretty much left out when Clarence runs down his cohort who's been covered in toxic waste and he disintegrates from the impact. Also lots of blood from wounds, various impacts of bullets and such, most of Miguel Ferrer's fun with the party girls (sex and drugs) before he is killed - all missing with pretty ridiculous jumpy cuts.