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I know this forum has more than one history junky, I think there is at least a few here and more having a interest in different parts and eras of history.

While there are 100's of times in history I'd like to visit there are few times I'd like to live as life was for the most part regardless of your social standing pretty crappy overall. But I've always been a bit of an adventurer and explorer and I think living in during the time of the American western expansion (From The Appalachian west) would be interesting to see the country covered in old growth forest and buffalo herds that were millions strong, unfettered rivers, to see the native Americans living as they did (provided they didn't kill me) I just think that would be a enjoyable time for me to live as I even today like getting back to nature and sometimes walk for miles off of trails through the 200,000+ forest near my house. I just seems to be drawn to times in history that we seems to know the least about, and the western exploration is not as well documented as I'd wished it was. Sure I'd love to see many, many other times in history, but the life span, general health just seems to out weigh any longterm enjoyment of the wonder of the period in history to me. Even the voyages of discovery were wrought with misery and a short life. 

So if you could live at any time in history, when would it be and why?

I think if compelled, I'd go for the 1950s... born just a bit too late, I love 50s Rock, Jazz, Blues, 50s movies, 50s TV, 50s clothes... How can you go wrong with Japan-made tin toys, "I Love Lucy," "Leave it to Beaver," CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON, CHARLES MINGUS, ORNETTE COLEMAN, RICKY NELSON and ELVIS?   :teddyr:

Forgot to mention MICKEY MANTLE and THE NEW YORK YANKEES !!!  :hot:

Hmm.  Most likely in Rome during the rule of one of the more effective Caesars, maybe good old Gaius Julius himself.  Or in England during the reign of Henry VIII.  But most likely in Rome.  What a fascinating time!

I'd go with the mid to late fifties as well! Rock and Roll-SHOCK THEATER-the start of the monster boom...but I'm actually pretty glad I grew up in the era that I did. I'm happy with the history I've seen made. And...even though I've had lots of hard times...I'm glad I did what I had to do. I'v'e met lotsa interesting people...and even though I get despondent sometimes-I'm still young...I still have some kick left in me...and I expect life to take some amazing twists and turns yet.  :smile: Like the RAMONES sing...I WANNA LIVE!   :thumbup:

Early 19th century - live and work aboard a square rigger plying the oceans.  Fascinating times.

I'd like to live in the Pleistocene, always liked the beasties that roamed the world then and there were not a lot of people around so there was room for everybody, people and animals. I realize that I'd have to live off the land and not get eaten by some of the predators, but on the other hand, no bills, no taxes, no vehicle registration fees, just living life. It would be great as long as it lasted.

Ever read "Jack Nastyface" or "Steering to Glory" and a bunch more? That's one of those times I'd like to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there. Life aboard ship even often for the Capt. sucked. However, one Captain that can not be denied his seamanship was Captain Bligh after the mutiny on the 'HMAV Bounty' and his 3618 nautical mile voyage in nothing more than a dingy.


Those are indeed fascinating times although I'm fond of Trajan's time albeit nearly any of them would have been great to see, provided you were neither to high or to low on the social ladder. Life tended to be short if you were.
Henry and his fight with Rome would have been cool to see too, but Henry's reign seemed to be pretty much about Henry only. It's been a long time since I've read anything about him, but I'd be hard pressed off the top of my head to think of anything Henry VIII did that wasn't in his own best interest. Even the Laws in Wales Acts was all about fat boy and the crown, so while Henry is cool if for nothing more than his blatant self indulgent I think for me it would be Richard II mainly for my own self indulgent reason that he was the patron of my GreatX19 Grandfather some guy named Geoffrey Chaucer. and I might have gotten a chance to meet him and say "Hey, thanks for the books."


Can't wait for that movie to come out in March 10,000 BC ... looks cool.

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Not read those (but have heard of 'em)...

On Bligh:  Bligh's Portable Nightmare is a great read that focused on that voyage (the aftermath of the mutiny).  Easy reading - I read the entire book in two days.  I sure would not have chosen to be on THAT trip....

The book also had a litlte bit of history into Bligh's character....seemed he operated under an extreme sense of guilt over Cook's death and his inability to prevent it.  Bligh was NOT the man he has portrayed to have been in cinema, but he was not without his faults.

Nathaniel Philbreck is also one the key modern authors documenting the history of life aboard the square riggers.

Correct sir, history turns him into a monster, it least Hollywood did and he was in fact quite the able seamen. I haven't seen the 1982(?) movie but I've read it holds closest to the true the story in cinema. I'd be hard pressed to say which ship I'd would have liked to have been on in the age of the sail, perhaps aboard the HMS Beagle with Darwin even though it was a tiny ship.

To live in a historical time in the U.S., I'd probably go with the '40s. I love the music and movies of that era, just before the super idealism/emptiness of the '50s and just after WWII. Plus, I could still wear my fedora!

As for a historical period I'd like to visit but not stay in for long, there are many. I'd like to visit Jerusalem in the time of Christ, then again a couple of centuries later. I'd like to visit Stratford-on-Avon, circa 1600, and see Shakespeare in action. I'd love to visit the late 1400's and see Da Vinci. I'd like to visit Egypt in the prime age of the pharoahs. And lastly (for now), I'd like to visit England in the late '60s to see Diana Rigg in her prime in person (rowr, rowr!).

The one with Anthony Hopkins and Mel Gibson?  Definitely worth a look.  Hopkins gives a great performance, if somewhat maniacal.


HMS Beagle would have been cool....being with Nelson at Trafalgar would have been pretty awesome with the hindsight of how it turned out (though himself was lost).

Then you should read "Steering to Glory", "Feeding Nelson's Navy", "Frigate Commander", "Fiddlers And Whores'' if you haven't yet, and you know why I think a day trip or two in Nelson's Navy will do me fine.

When I read about the hardship of many of our forefathers be it settling the New World, manning a Ship of the Line, just eeking out a meager life and often losing more children than the modern mind can grasp. And then I hear people today whine and cry when the cable goes out, I just want to smack them.

Karma for that...

OK you 40's and 50's folks if I had to pick a time in recent history (since 1900) I'd say the 1910's - 1920's, great times, vaudeville, the Ziegfeld Follies, early autos and airplanes, early radio and nickelodeons and not to mention the high style of Art Deco and Art Nouveau which I think has not been surpassed in style and design, although the early 50's Machine Age is close. However, I'd prefer to be gone by Oct 1929 pretty much down hill for a while after that. Granted that hold prohibition thing was kind of insane, but it didn't seem to slow anyone down.

I love the time I'm in, even if I disagree with alot of the way the world is [or more precisely, alot of the jerks in the world] but regardless there's a few periods that would be fun.

One thing I find myself quite often wondering about is going to live in a past time period with the knowledge of today in my head.  Imagine the things we could do to improve societies using today's knowledge of hygiene, irrigation and mechanics, that even a schmuck like me could impart onto lesser knowledgeable historical peoples.  Of course I also think about how it would be taking weapons of today into famous battles and see how history would have changed.  Big army marching on the horizon ready to start an ancient battle in Greece, say hello to Mr Bazooka and Mrs Assault Rifle etc etc.  Ah the confusion...

But if I chose a time to live in, well there's a few interesting ones that spring to mind.  The French revolution would have been an interesting time to be alive.  Sure, there was a lot of 'don't speak up or we'll lop your head off' going on, but imagine a time when people start rethinking the way they live to the point that they even make a new calender.  A WHOLE NEW CALENDER!!!  Crazy French.

Watching Sweeny Todd the other day made me wish I was alive back then purely for the fashion.  Awesome outfits, plus a healthy bosom works particularly well in some of those clothes...  :teddyr:

Being alive during the European and Japanese initial meetings would have been interesting: such a clash of cultures...

Of course the heydays of Ancient Greece and Rome would have been particularly intriguing.  Such a violent time though I'm sure.

I've always been intrigued by Mayan/Aztec culture, but to live there, well, I really don't think I'd last too long...

But yeah, I really do agree with Cheeze's modern choice of the 1910s to 20s.  Old penny arcades and the new technology advances of more electricity, film and sound.  The forefront of the new age and so on.


But really when you think about it, we've all come so far yet not at all... technology these days is insane compared to even 40 years ago, and we've had such a boom, yet people are still nuts.   :wink:

I will definitely agree with your assessment of Art Deco and Art Nouveau. In fact, I just finished making my own weekly planner this morning (yes, I'm anal enough that I make my own planner so I can get exactly the format I want), and the artwork is all Nouveau (I couldn't find anything that would work with my layout in the Deco style). I chose the '40s mostly because of the music, national optimism, and clothing style, but for art and architecture, the '20s-'30s is definitely a wonderful period.

I'd like to go back to the early 1700's and listen to Johann Sebastian Bach perform in person.  He worked in a church in Leipzig, church services lasted half a day and there was tons of music.  He wrote all new music for the services almost every week, which was an unheard of feat.  He did this using a quill pen dipped in ink, and he even had to draw his own musical staff lines on the paper before he began.  They tuned the instruments differently back in those days, it's said that if any of those old composers were to hear music today in our modern tuning system, they would probably become ill.  So it would be a real experience to hear hm play, in the old tuning system.  The chance to chat with him for a minute and see what he was like would be quite incredible.

Don't think I'd like to stay there for too long though, what with half the children dying before they were 5 because of the lack of advanced medical care and stuff.

There are several time periods that I would like to visit.

Acient Greece
I always though that Acient Greece was really interesting and the gods they worshiped and the legends and myths from that time really interest me.

The 1920's
Prohibition-era America is my favorite part of American History.  I'm not sure why it is my favorite but I think it has to do with the fact that liquor and alcohol across the board was banned, but how every still drank it.  I was also interested in seeing the rise of certain crime groups and fugitives. 

1970's (Probably after Vietnam)

There are several reasons why I would go to this time period.

The TV shows that were one.
The music from certain groups that I enjoyed.
The cars that existed at the time.
To see how America was after Vietnam ended.
To see my Karate instructor before he lost his eye, and to see what type of fighter he was back in the day.

Believe me the 1970's weren't that great, really bad fashion, as much political divide as there is today, most cars were really ugly, it was only after you spent a small fortune on them did they look good and then the gas shortage started bringing an end to the muscle car, (Thanks Mr Carter). However, the Bi-Centennial is one of those things I am glad I was around for.

Of course, if I could pick my age and occupation, I would give anything to have been a fighter pilot for the Royal Flying Corps, along about 1917 or so, right after the Sopwith Camel and the S.E. 5a were introduced.  Dogfighting the Red Baron would be an incredible way to shuffle off this mortal coil!

I know some of the fashions were bad then, I've seen lots of pics and heard lots of stories from my rents about 70's fashion.  The one pic that really was wacky was seeing a picture my dad with a full head of hair wearing a black Leisure suit in the basement of our house.  Now that was creepy.

Bas Fashion is funny to me, for some reason.  I really get my kicks out of 80's fashion, that was awful.  The only thing good I can say about that was that I was just a toddler through the 80's so I don't remember having to enduring the fashion of then.

I have photo evidence of bad 1970's fashion, most of it locked away never to be seen again, I have pictures with HUGE lapels, platform shoes, elephant bottom pants, leisure suits (lite blue polyester with white thread and buttons :buggedout:) the let it be hair style, and let's not forget Disco and disco  clothes .. ah the 1970's how I miss them ... not!
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However there were a thing or two great about the 1970's ...
which was the tube top and hot pants. Those work regardless of the decade.

1950s. The best sci-fi movies ever!! Cool leather jackets and wonderful rock n' roll music. And the Drive-in!!

I would choose medieval Europe because of the whole sword and no pollution thing.  Also the blindness towards the workings of the human body and other scientific stuff would have put things into a more philosophical perspective.  And the only drive bys were the joust.

Or the 1980's, good music, good movies, delorians.

Well you had that whole Black Death thing, and the crusades, raiders and pillagers, the ever looming threat the inquisition. It's a time in history I'd like visit, but I'd keep a low profile and take a first aid kit. 

It would be fun to go back to the Middle Ages or the Renaissance with several crates full of modern pharmaceuticals and reference books and become a royal physician . . .

"OK, King Henry, I'll heal the abcess on your leg - but I want my own palace and Anne Boleyn's younger sister!!!!"

I thought about that when writing it, but at least back then we didn't have people complaining that food was too fattening.  They were just happy to have food.




OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, I shouldn't have said that.

As I'm sure you know, it is amazing the wide range of malities the elite had, most of which cause some form of mental illness. From the Egyptian Pharaohs, Emperors, Kings, Queens and the lot. Many were just a social step away from being locked up.
But you just don't read about that many normal, well adjusted, physically and mentally healthy leaders of antiquity. There were a few but most were just mad, or at the least thought faking it (i.e. Claudius) 

But true most ailments of old are what today is thought to be a easy home cure, what a difference a discovery makes, huh?

Ditto!

Karma, for reading my mind! :teddyr:

Arguably one could say the same about leaders in general, current or ancient!

Anytime during the Roaring Twenties (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roaring_20%27s) before Oct. 29th 1929. 

Get a big lavish party going, play some big band music and get a flapper to dance for me and I'd be set.   :smile:
The only thing that would suck would be the fact that Prohibition was in effect at the time.

pre new deal/ social security / federal reserve america (prior to 1913).


a follower of moses, jesus, or muhammed before the relgions themselves became established and politicized.  when they were movements against paganism/ belief that man is controlled by destiny rather than man being free

I'd like to go back to the early sixties (before Nam) the whole "free love" area.  (Course, I'd probably have just about as much luck scoring with chicks as I do now.. but hey, at least we wouldn't have to worry about disease...)

Also wouldn't mind traveling back to the early 80s, and make an investment in some small company called "Microsoft" and then go forward to see how my stock portfolio went. :)

But on a completely non-selfish mode, I'd like to go back to the time just after the Revolutionary War.  Love to be able to sit down with some of the founding fathers and ask them some questions, maybe help clear up some modern day issues we're all still debating about. 

BTM, "free love" in a '60s context would most certainly be during the Vietnam era -- late 1960s.  Also, you don't think boys and girls got VD then? 

It's nice to know that the leaders of some of our greatest civilizations were insane. :buggedout: :buggedout: :buggedout:

BTM, "free love" in a '60s context would most certainly be during the Vietnam era -- late 1960s.  Also, you don't think boys and girls got VD then? 
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True, but IIRC, VD could be cured with some penicillin, unlike most of the sexual diseases we have today.

True, but IIRC, VD could be cured with some penicillin, unlike most of the sexual diseases we have today.
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 It's not the demise of "free love" that held back my sex life...it was the fact that I was a LOSER that stifled me!  :bouncegiggle:....waitaminnit......that's not funny....it's pathetic!...... :bluesad: