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Title: MY BLOODY VALENTINE (1981)
Post by: zombie no.one on February 14, 2008, 09:47:46 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/516CJHVP33L._AA240_.jpg)

It's valentine's day so why not bring up this minor cult classic (apparently that's what it is)...in fact I only got this DVD the other week after wanting to see it for years, not least because the band that took their name from this film (My Bloody Valentine, duh) are probably one of my favourite bands ever.

okay probably a few of you have already seen this anyway, but for some reason I expected this to be a kind of low-key creepy movie with some dark suspense. it's actually about as scary as an episode of scooby doo, and about as fun to watch as well. loads of really blatant corny humour, token drunk teens partying, very cheesy soundtrack. it's not scary but there are a couple of gore 'shockers' along the way, head falling out of a dry-cleaner being the best. and the inevitable 'twist' at the end isn't actually that suprising even though it would be hard to guess it.

overall I'd give this a worth-seeing-once-or-twice 7/10 rating.


Title: Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE (1981)
Post by: RCMerchant on February 14, 2008, 01:39:43 PM
I seen it many moons ago on it's Showtime premiere in the 80's. Unfortuantaly, not since.
What I DO rembeber is that I was sick and tired of blatant HALLOWEEN rip-offs (and yes-FRIDAY the 13th was one of them).
 But....I really did enjoy this one...if nothing other than the fact that it seemed to be having a lot of fun with itself (ew!) and I was able to kick back and not take it too seriously either.

 Favorite gore scene-the human heart boiling in the pot of weinies! Yuuuuum-Yum!


Title: Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE (1981)
Post by: The Dungeonmaster on February 14, 2008, 02:46:11 PM
I love that movie but oh man that cover art blows. But so does the original. I've never seen packaging that does the movie justice.

I especially love the fat guy with the mustach.


Title: Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE (1981)
Post by: The Burgomaster on February 14, 2008, 07:36:41 PM
I bought this DVD awhile back when I was filling in my collection with post-HALLOWEEN "mad slasher" movies (MADMAN, DON'T ANSWER THE PHONE, HELL NIGHT, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME, etc.)  It's another run-of-the-mill flick in this genre . . . but a mad-slasher collection would not be complete without this title.


Title: Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE (1981)
Post by: Mortal Envelope on February 15, 2008, 11:46:43 AM
Gotta love this one - haven't seen in for many years though.

Miner Gear = scary/creepy!


Title: Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE (1981)
Post by: AndyC on February 15, 2008, 12:31:00 PM
Miner Gear = scary/creepy!

Have to agree with that. I think the mine setting and the killer's mining gear were what made the movie memorable for me.


Title: Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE (1981)
Post by: Jordan on February 15, 2008, 01:04:09 PM
But who can truly forget the song during the end credits, namely the "Ballad of Harry Warden." Its cheesy to the max but dang it, it's a pretty catchy little folk ballad. I have an mp3 of said song and will be posting it on my site this weekend for anyone that is interested.


Title: Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE (1981)
Post by: KYGOTC on February 17, 2008, 02:27:02 AM
if nothing other than the fact that it seemed to be having a lot of fun with itself (ew!)

 Favorite gore scene-the human heart boiling in the pot of weinies! Yuuuuum-Yum!


......Dude, you crack me up.


Title: Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE (1981)
Post by: Cult Movie Mania on February 17, 2008, 12:46:53 PM
I love that movie but oh man that cover art blows.

I hear you.  I'd love to buy the DVD, but I simply don't know if I can tolerate that cover art in my collection.


Title: Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE (1981)
Post by: threnody on February 17, 2008, 09:14:33 PM
I haven't heard of this, but I do love the band. I didn't know they took their name from a film. I will have to see if I can find a copy, even if I have to get it on VHS.


Title: Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE (1981)
Post by: DARKTIGER on February 17, 2008, 10:28:28 PM
I remember when I first saw this on cable about 82 I was 8.  my older brother and sister caught me watching the movie with them. That scene with that dead old woman's body in the dryer that freak me out. :buggedout:


Title: Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE (1981)
Post by: Jordan on February 18, 2008, 04:15:29 AM
The cover art for the Paramount DVD release of "My Bloody Valentine" doth sucketh mightily. However, there is a fix for this problem: http://retroslashers.net/images/custom_mybloody.jpg

There's a lot of cool custom DVD cover art at Retro-Slasher.net. The cover they offer is much better than Paramount's, even if it is just a quick cut and paste job.  :smile:



Title: Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE (1981)
Post by: Mr_Vindictive on February 18, 2008, 06:18:06 AM
My Bloody Valentine is one of my favorite, "non-franchise", slashers of the 80s.  It's not as formulaic as most of the films in the genre from the time and it's just an interesting damn film all around.  The mines make for a great place to have a climax of a horror film, and this film delivers with the kills and such.

The film is quite heavily cut from it's original form.  At the time of it's release, Paramount had to cut the hell out of it to get an R rating, despite George Mihlaka's protests.  The cut footage still exists, but Paramount didn't listen to the fans and released the DVD in it's regular form.  I'm still holding out for an uncut DVD release, but it looks like the chances of seeing one are quite dim.


Title: Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE (1981)
Post by: TheDope on February 18, 2008, 10:06:45 AM
The cover art for the Paramount DVD release of "My Bloody Valentine" doth sucketh mightily. However, there is a fix for this problem: [url]http://retroslashers.net/images/custom_mybloody.jpg[/url]

There's a lot of cool custom DVD cover art at Retro-Slasher.net. The cover they offer is much better than Paramount's, even if it is just a quick cut and paste job.  :smile:


(NOTE - karma, Jordan, for pointing me to Retro-Slasher.net - GREAT SITE!)

That is a big improvement - why the release companies muck around with the original artwork on movies for the DVD covers is beyond me.  Sacrelige, I say!

But yeah, this is one of those I'd read about back in the day in Fangoria, seen some cool promo pics for it therein, saw the TV ads and even caught bits and pieces of it here and there late at night on TV but have never seen the whole thing.  I sure would like to, if just for historic purposes of seeing one of the also-rans of that period that never made it into "series territory".

But with an ad campaign like this, how could it miss?

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eNeCcKt8jw&feature=related


Title: Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE (1981)
Post by: KYGOTC on February 19, 2008, 12:42:17 AM
The cover art for the Paramount DVD release of "My Bloody Valentine" doth sucketh mightily. However, there is a fix for this problem: [url]http://retroslashers.net/images/custom_mybloody.jpg[/url]

There's a lot of cool custom DVD cover art at Retro-Slasher.net. The cover they offer is much better than Paramount's, even if it is just a quick cut and paste job.  :smile:


(NOTE - karma, Jordan, for pointing me to Retro-Slasher.net - GREAT SITE!)

That is a big improvement - why the release companies muck around with the original artwork on movies for the DVD covers is beyond me.  Sacrelige, I say!

But yeah, this is one of those I'd read about back in the day in Fangoria, seen some cool promo pics for it therein, saw the TV ads and even caught bits and pieces of it here and there late at night on TV but have never seen the whole thing.  I sure would like to, if just for historic purposes of seeing one of the also-rans of that period that never made it into "series territory".

But with an ad campaign like this, how could it miss?

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eNeCcKt8jw&feature=related


At the end of that trailer, does he say "My Bline"?


Title: Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE (1981)
Post by: TheDope on February 19, 2008, 06:46:28 AM
At the end of that trailer, does he say "My Bline"?

Yep - it seems that all of the trailers that everyone posts on YouTube are off the same damaged original.  The sound skips off in the middle of the title and all you can hear is My Bl---- ------ine.

But hey, it's enough to get the idea.   :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE (1981)
Post by: Jordan on February 20, 2008, 01:34:00 AM
Thanks for the karma GreatWhiteDope.  :teddyr:
As for the trailer, I assumed that it was censored not damaged. My train of thought was that Paramount was so iffy on the contents of the film that they hacked the audio on the trailer as to not offend the public.

And that's an excellent trailer by the way. It has the look and feel of an old school grindhouse trailer.  Sigh.... its a pity that "My Bloody Valentine" is going to be remade in 2009.  :bluesad:


Title: Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE (1981)
Post by: KYGOTC on February 20, 2008, 09:45:48 AM


And that's an excellent trailer by the way. It has the look and feel of an old school grindhouse trailer.  Sigh.... its a pity that "My Bloody Valentine" is going to be remade in 2009.  :bluesad:

No suprise there. EVERYTHING is being remade lately. Just dont go see it.


Title: Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE (1981)
Post by: KYGOTC on February 20, 2008, 09:27:38 PM


The film is quite heavily cut from it's original form.  At the time of it's release, Paramount had to cut the hell out of it to get an R rating, despite George Mihlaka's protests.  The cut footage still exists, but Paramount didn't listen to the fans and released the DVD in it's regular form.  I'm still holding out for an uncut DVD release, but it looks like the chances of seeing one are quite dim.


Yea, i was thinking about at least RENTING this one, but if its all cut up, I dont wanna see it. I HATE censorship.


Title: Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE (1981)
Post by: Mr_Vindictive on February 21, 2008, 06:00:52 AM
KYGOTC,

Even though it is cut, it is well worth renting.  As I said, it's one of my favorite slashers from that period.  It's a hell of a film, unique and entertaining.  I highly recommend renting it.


Title: Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE (1981)
Post by: KYGOTC on February 21, 2008, 11:57:29 AM
KYGOTC,

Even though it is cut, it is well worth renting.  As I said, it's one of my favorite slashers from that period.  It's a hell of a film, unique and entertaining.  I highly recommend renting it.

Yea, but if I watch it, I'll know Ill be missing things that the director wanted me to see, and....I dunno. I guess Im just picky that way.


Title: Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE (1981)
Post by: Mr_Vindictive on February 21, 2008, 02:38:44 PM
True, you will not see everything that the director intended, but it's still a hell of a good film even in it's annotated form.  If you enjoyed any of the 80s slashers (F13, Halloween, etc) then give this one a try.  It was one of the few films of the time to bring in a new character like that which wasn't a supernatural killing machine.  It's just a great little film all around.


Title: Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE (1981)
Post by: KYGOTC on February 21, 2008, 11:01:13 PM
True, you will not see everything that the director intended, but it's still a hell of a good film even in it's annotated form.  If you enjoyed any of the 80s slashers (F13, Halloween, etc) then give this one a try. 

Hmm... Well I've seen the 1st Friday, and it bored the heck out of me. And I've seen the 1st halloween, and now its my favorite slasher. I dunno, the sensorship still p**ses me off, but I guess I'll go rent it.


Title: Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE (1981)
Post by: Torgo on February 21, 2008, 11:35:43 PM
I thought that a friend of mine had an uncut VHS copy of this time that he got from Japan years ago  but according to the IMDb the censored R rated version is the only one that's in existence.

Here's what they list as far as cuts go:

Quote
The following scenes were trimmed or re-edited to avoid an "X" rating from the MPAA:
Gore was cut from the pre-credits sequence where the woman is pushed backwards onto a pickaxe.

Mabel's mutilated body was originally on screen for much longer.

The scene where the bartender is playing peek-a-boo with the Harry Warden dummy was edited so that no blood is shown. He was pickaxed up his chin and out his left eye, then dragged along the ground with his eyeball hanging out.

The face-boiling of Dave was shortened so you don't see the after-effects while he is dying.

Graphic head-on shots of Sylvia's shower impalement were deleted.

A stock footage close-up of the miner's light being shown at the camera replaces the bulk of a shot of Hollis' bleeding face after he has been nail-gunned. In the widely-seen release, the scene picks up after Hollis has mostly turned away.

Howard's hanging is shortened. In the original print, he was decapitated. The decapitation was cut out, so it looks like his body just falls, stops short when the end of the wire is reached, sprays blood all over Patty and Sarah, and then resumes falling. Not only do the cuts imposed render the scene senseless, but they also make it so there's no payoff to Hollis' earlier comment that Howard would lose his head if it weren't attached.

Axel's left arm gets trapped under rocks in the cave-in at the end. He rips it off to get away, leaving his limb behind to horrify everybody else. But since the key footage of the arm removal all had to be removed itself, it is hard to see exactly what happened.
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Producer John Dunning claims to have both footage of the cut scenes as well as a complete negative with 8 to 9 minutes of extra footage. He is currently trying to find a way to release a complete uncut DVD, but rights issues with Paramount Studios have so far prevented that.


Michael's and Harriet's death was originally on screen. The killer enters and shoves a drill bit into his back. The "R" rated version only shows the killer entering and the aftermath later.


Title: Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE (1981)
Post by: zombie no.one on February 21, 2008, 11:48:48 PM
I thought that a friend of mine had an uncut VHS copy of this time that he got from Japan years ago  but according to the IMDb the censored R rated version is the only one that's in existence.

Here's what they list as far as cuts go:

Quote
The following scenes were trimmed or re-edited to avoid an "X" rating from the MPAA:
Gore was cut from the pre-credits sequence where the woman is pushed backwards onto a pickaxe.

Mabel's mutilated body was originally on screen for much longer.

The scene where the bartender is playing peek-a-boo with the Harry Warden dummy was edited so that no blood is shown. He was pickaxed up his chin and out his left eye, then dragged along the ground with his eyeball hanging out.

The face-boiling of Dave was shortened so you don't see the after-effects while he is dying.

Graphic head-on shots of Sylvia's shower impalement were deleted.

A stock footage close-up of the miner's light being shown at the camera replaces the bulk of a shot of Hollis' bleeding face after he has been nail-gunned. In the widely-seen release, the scene picks up after Hollis has mostly turned away.

Howard's hanging is shortened. In the original print, he was decapitated. The decapitation was cut out, so it looks like his body just falls, stops short when the end of the wire is reached, sprays blood all over Patty and Sarah, and then resumes falling. Not only do the cuts imposed render the scene senseless, but they also make it so there's no payoff to Hollis' earlier comment that Howard would lose his head if it weren't attached.

Axel's left arm gets trapped under rocks in the cave-in at the end. He rips it off to get away, leaving his limb behind to horrify everybody else. But since the key footage of the arm removal all had to be removed itself, it is hard to see exactly what happened.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Producer John Dunning claims to have both footage of the cut scenes as well as a complete negative with 8 to 9 minutes of extra footage. He is currently trying to find a way to release a complete uncut DVD, but rights issues with Paramount Studios have so far prevented that.


Michael's and Harriet's death was originally on screen. The killer enters and shoves a drill bit into his back. The "R" rated version only shows the killer entering and the aftermath later.

that really, really sucks. what do they think we're gonna do? go out there and replicate the carnage...it would be difficult enough to find a decent miner's uniform complete with gas-mask and head-lamp to get busy with for a start. The butchering done to these films in the editing-suite is far greater than the on-screen butchering they attempt to remove...what a nasty paradox that is. we like movies...we want to see them. jeezuz  :lookingup:


Title: Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE (1981)
Post by: KYGOTC on February 22, 2008, 12:21:11 AM
I know! This sucks! Its a crime is what it is. I mean, this is AMERICA, for crissake! Land of the gansta gangsta shoot em' ups and crappy SAW movies!! Freedom of speech, you ingrates!! (Which i assume ties into freedom of sensorship or something similar to that.)


Title: Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE (1981)
Post by: Jordan on February 22, 2008, 12:22:44 AM
Torgo, karma to you for posting those cut scenes. I'm proud to say that A) I was pretty certain that Howard was decapitated by the noose around his neck and B) I noticed that
Axel is missing an arm at the end. I thought I was crazy but you have proven that I am not... well at least not in respects to this film.  :wink:

It boggles my mind when movies are so heavily edited these days. Back then it was to soften the blow of violence and gore onscreen. (CURSE YOU MPAA!) Now its a merchandising ploy (i.e. show the watered down PG-13 cut in the theater, then release the "uncut" version on DVD). Sigh.... for a country that is supposed the bastion of freedom in the world, we sure have a lot of censoring in our media.  :bluesad: