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Title: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: CheezeFlixz on February 19, 2008, 07:18:59 PM
I can tell you I'm AN ANGRY WHITE MAN based on this article, and I'm proud of it!

http://www.aspentimes.com/article/20080209/ASPENWEEKLY06/198091324 (http://www.aspentimes.com/article/20080209/ASPENWEEKLY06/198091324)

And with the latest comments by Michelle Obama the Angry White Man has one more thing to be angry about.


Title: Re: If you a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: indianasmith on February 19, 2008, 07:35:18 PM
Someone posted that on another forum  I belong to . . . much there that I agree with.


Title: Re: If you a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: Patient7 on February 19, 2008, 09:13:53 PM
I didn't think about it but there's quite a few good points in that article


Title: Re: If you a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: Dennis on February 19, 2008, 09:45:14 PM
I find that I fit the definition of one as it's described in the article, there are a number of good points in there.


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: CheezeFlixz on February 20, 2008, 10:19:15 AM
I think I need to get a T-Shirt made.


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: Patient7 on February 20, 2008, 11:10:42 PM
I think I need to get a T-Shirt made.

Yeah, but someone will get offended, and be all, "Maaahhhh, I'm offended by that person expressing his views, let's force him to not say what he's thinking."


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: CheezeFlixz on February 21, 2008, 12:52:20 AM
I think I need to get a T-Shirt made.

Yeah, but someone will get offended, and be all, "Maaahhhh, I'm offended by that person expressing his views, let's force him to not say what he's thinking."

Trust me when I tell you I do not care who I offend ... because I live by the philosophy that I can not offend you, only you can let yourself be offended.


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: RCMerchant on February 21, 2008, 07:16:26 AM
I'm angry too!!!   :hatred:

 Why are candy and popcorn in movie houses so high?
 Where can I buy a Saurkraut hotdog while on the road?
 Why can't I watch CNN and see REAL news...instead of infotainment !?!?!
 Why can't I find a news stand that sells magazines and comic books and newspapers and coffee around this s**t-hole county?
 Why isn't Pam Grier in more movies?!?!?!

  HOWCOME THE VENDING MACHINE SANDWICHES AT WORK ALL MADE OF COMPRESSED MEAT AND SOY PRODUCTS!?!?!?!?!? WHAT IS A 'RIB-SHAPED'SANDWICH MADE OF?!?!?!?!? SWEET BABY JANE!!!! ARGHHHHHHRHHH!!!!    :hot:


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: trekgeezer on February 21, 2008, 08:45:45 AM
I'm angry too!!!   :hatred:

 Why are candy and popcorn in movie houses so high?
 Where can I buy a Saurkraut hotdog while on the road?
 Why can't I watch CNN and see REAL news...instead of infotainment !?!?!
 Why can't I find a news stand that sells magazines and comic books and newspapers and coffee around this s**t-hole county?
 Why isn't Pam Grier in more movies?!?!?!

  HOWCOME THE VENDING MACHINE SANDWICHES AT WORK ALL MADE OF COMPRESSED MEAT AND SOY PRODUCTS!?!?!?!?!? WHAT IS A 'RIB-SHAPED'SANDWICH MADE OF?!?!?!?!? SWEET BABY JANE!!!! ARGHHHHHHRHHH!!!!    :hot:


Amen RC!






There is a lot in this that I agree with.  :smile:

I am a born African, not a _______ African or an African _______ (fill in name of country in blank space) and can trace my history back nearly five generations, which makes me 100% African, even though there are those who challenge this as my skin is as white as Uwe Boll's bum.  :buggedout: Apologies for that last horrible image.

Yes, I am white and I am angry. My country of birth (Zimbabwe) is in a shambles: absolute power corrupts absolutely and this is why that beautiful country has collapsed, once the breadbasket of Central Africa, now the outhouse of the world.

I fear that my country of adoption will go the same way: God forbid that it should but I refuse to stand by idly and let it happen.  :bluesad:

Trevor, you've got way more to be angry about than anyone here could imagine.


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: trekgeezer on February 21, 2008, 11:11:45 AM


On the lighter side (one can't be down all the time  :teddyr:): the thing that makes me a steaming angry white guy is that our local DVD shops charge an astronomical 3000 South African rand (about $500) for the first season of the original Star Trek. Yikes.  :buggedout:


Check out these two articles about the travails of being a white African-American.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36764

http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=9801

I have a tendency to get a little perturbed about the term Native American. My fathers line goes back in this country to the early 1700s. Plus my great grandmother was an Indian.  I would think that would qualify me as a Native.


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: Inyarear on February 21, 2008, 07:47:14 PM
Well I'm a man, white, and angry, so I guess I count as one of those angry white men in the article. I'd have to disagree with the arrogant author's stupid sneering snipe at Bush, though: no matter who gets into office this time around, everybody's going to be wishing for a third Bush term come February 2009. Serves'em right too.

Check out these two articles about the travails of being a white African-American.

[url]http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36764[/url]

[url]http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=9801[/url]

I have a tendency to get a little perturbed about the term Native American. My fathers line goes back in this country to the early 1700s. Plus my great grandmother was an Indian.  I would think that would qualify me as a Native.


I see the point with the two articles, but I should point out that with all the tech support guys being shipped in from India these days, referring to the folks Columbus mistakenly called "Indians" as Native Americans does help me keep track of who's who sometimes. When my Dad took us out to dinner with an Indian friend from work, for instance, I was a little uncertain at first which one he was going to be. ("American Indian or Indian Indian?") One of my adopted cousins, on the other hand, was one fourth Native or so. There's something to be said for the designation, therefore. ("Okay, the programmer guy is from India, while my cousin is from right here.")


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: Torgo on February 21, 2008, 10:43:58 PM
I am a born African, not a _______ African or an African _______ (fill in name of country in blank space) and can trace my history back nearly five generations, which makes me 100% African, even though there are those who challenge this as my skin is as white as Uwe Boll's bum.  :buggedout: Apologies for that last horrible image.


(http://www.sg.hu/forumkepek/2006_01/UweBoll.jpg)
Sorry, couldn't help myself when I saw that comment.  Uwe says SEE DUNGEON SEIGE!


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: Patient7 on February 21, 2008, 11:57:00 PM
I think I need to get a T-Shirt made.

Yeah, but someone will get offended, and be all, "Maaahhhh, I'm offended by that person expressing his views, let's force him to not say what he's thinking."

Trust me when I tell you I do not care who I offend ... because I live by the philosophy that I can not offend you, only you can let yourself be offended.

Good way to think


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: Ash on February 22, 2008, 06:55:16 AM
It's funny Cheeze...
I stumbled across this article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angry_white_male) a couple weeks ago and you were the first person I thought of.
That's not a good thing.   :bluesad:

Please hear me out...

Don't you realize that your negative attitude shows through in almost every word you write here?
I would venture to guess that you do.  Why else would you post this thread?
You want us to know how angry you are.

Trekgeezer had it right when he mentioned that Trevor has more to be angry about than any of us. 
He was trying to make a subtle point and he succeeded admirably. 
Your complaining about this and that and how you're so angry is nothing compared to what Trevor and other less priveleged people in this world have been through and are currently going through right now.

Sometimes you write genuinely funny and insightful posts.
But most of the time you come across as an angry spiteful person who just wants to rant.
And that's too bad.
I find it quite disturbing when you say that you're proud to be an Angry White Male.
There are people on this earth who would kill to have what you have...
A home, a job, a vehicle, good friends and a wife and children who love you...yet you complain about trivial things.   :lookingup:
I'm not trying to rip on you or insult you or drive you away.
I'm just telling you how I see it.  And I obviously see things very differently than you do.

I'm sorry (and I know I'm not alone here in saying so) but I don't buy into all of this AWM nonsense.
Cheeze...I think you seriously need a vacation.
I want to be your friend...not your enemy.
And I would much rather see you happy than p**sed off.

---------------------------------

My karma is at 154 and I'll be keeping an eye on it.
(it was at 155 yesterday but I think I can guess who took it down a point)
Please don't Boo me for stating my opinion here.


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: trekgeezer on February 22, 2008, 08:28:58 AM
Thanks Ash for making a point I was trying to think of a tactful way to make myself.  I think the board has been taking a awfully political turn of late and I would hate for it to start causing animosity among out members.

I don't buy the AWM crap either. I have brother that's one and he posts on political boards all the time baiting liberals. He and I argue about this stuff, but being brothers once the shouting is over we go back to talking about the stuff we enjoy. I hope it can stay that way here.


p.s. You know someone's going to make a comment about how strange it is for you to be voice of reason, so I'll just get it out of the way now.  Karma for you !






Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: Derf on February 22, 2008, 09:04:27 AM
While I certainly don't need to defend Cheezeflixz, and that is not my intent here, let me give you my take on the article, Ash. I will agree with trekgeezer that an inordinate number of political "discussions" seem to be cropping up lately which may pose some danger of needless animosity. And I will agree that Americans have a fine standard of living and fewer problems than many worldwide. I personally saw the points made in the article as less about the anger (or whiteness or maleness) than about taking pride in the values the AWM represents. In other words, it praises the values of hard work, self sufficiency, and charity that at least used to make up the core values of America. Yes, the author uses that praise to make a political point, but underneath that superficial (but reasonably valid) point, there is the notion that the American Spirit, which the author misrepresents a bit as being that of only white males (my wife was a bit surprised to learn that she was, in many ways, an AWM), is still alive and well. That spirit, those values, are something to be proud of, whatever your skin color or gender. I have often been accused of being "too negative," and I may well be exactly that, but I am also able to see the positive aspects in negative situations, and I more often than not choose to focus on those positives. With this article, I focused on the praise rather than the anger or the politics, which almost seemed tacked on to give the article a hook to get it printed. I will karma-lize you for your thoughtful (and tactful) post and hope that you can see my point as well.


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: Trevor on February 22, 2008, 09:27:01 AM
Karma, Derf.

I deleted my posts on this thread as someone docked me a karma point: which means that I have offended someone through raising a contentious point somewhere.

It was not my intention to do so: My apologies if I have offended anyone.


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: Ash on February 22, 2008, 09:28:32 AM
Thank you for your informative take on this issue Derf.
(karma for you too...and karma for Trevor)

My post was directed at the AWM phenomenon and to Cheeze himself because he represents it.
If that's what he wants to believe, I can't change his mind for him.
I can only try to persuade him that there are other paths in life other than the AWM route.

In my opinion, the AWM road is a dead end.
And we all know where a dead end road ends up...
When you get to the end of one, you have to turn around and go back the other way.

This AWM stuff is ultimately self destructive and will get you nowhere.
No matter how much you want to believe in it.
I recommend finding a more constructive path...


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: trekgeezer on February 22, 2008, 09:54:05 AM
Karma, Derf.

I deleted my posts on this thread as someone docked me a karma point: which means that I have offended someone through raising a contentious point somewhere.
 

I think you probably got docked because of the point I made about you having more to be angry about.

I really don't want this to come down to bashing someone, my usual take is to avoid posts that might get my dander up. If someone espouses something I don't agree with I'm usually going to avoid it and not try to change their minds. My main purpose for frequenting this board is to have fun, learn something, and have an intelligent discussion occasionally. It is important to listen to  different people's points of view (not necessary to agree with them).

I remember when the Iraq war started and there were several heated exchanges on this board about it.  I think there were some folks that left because of that. I don't want to see that happen again. 

If I want a daily political discussion, I have a couple of blogs that I visit for that purpose.  Everyone please remain civil and don't ruin the good thing we have going here.


By the way Trevor, here's a little innocent bystander karma for you my friend.


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: Trevor on February 22, 2008, 10:05:35 AM
 :smile:

Thanks, Trek and thanks for standing up for me. 

Could you pleeeze try and convince the idiot DVD store owners here to bring down their prices on those Star Trek DVDs? I mean: 3000 SA rand for the original series first episodes................yeesh......  :buggedout: :buggedout:


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: Allhallowsday on February 22, 2008, 10:52:09 AM
Hmmm, this thread got hotter since the last time I looked at it.  I had decided some time ago to avoid political discussions on this board (or any other.)  I think it's too bad TREVOR, that anyone would have docked you, I saw nothing offensive in your comments, or anyone else's.   :thumbup:  Karma to you, trekgeezer and Ash.  Do we really think it's news that CHEEZEE is an AWM?  One of the great things about America, is that is his right!!  I read the article, and at first found myself being described.  The guns lost me.  Besides, I think of myself as more of a STRONG BLACK WOMAN.   :teddyr:


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: CheezeFlixz on February 22, 2008, 11:04:21 AM
It's funny Cheeze...
I stumbled across this article ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angry_white_male[/url]) a couple weeks ago and you were the first person I thought of.
That's not a good thing.   :bluesad:

Please hear me out...

Don't you realize that your negative attitude shows through in almost every word you write here?
I would venture to guess that you do.  Why else would you post this thread?
You want us to know how angry you are.

Trekgeezer had it right when he mentioned that Trevor has more to be angry about than any of us. 
He was trying to make a subtle point and he succeeded admirably. 
Your complaining about this and that and how you're so angry is nothing compared to what Trevor and other less priveleged people in this world have been through and are currently going through right now.

Sometimes you write genuinely funny and insightful posts.
But most of the time you come across as an angry spiteful person who just wants to rant.
And that's too bad.
I find it quite disturbing when you say that you're proud to be an Angry White Male.
There are people on this earth who would kill to have what you have...
A home, a job, a vehicle, good friends and a wife and children who love you...yet you complain about trivial things.   :lookingup:
I'm not trying to rip on you or insult you or drive you away.
I'm just telling you how I see it.  And I obviously see things very differently than you do.

I'm sorry (and I know I'm not alone here in saying so) but I don't buy into all of this AWM nonsense.
Cheeze...I think you seriously need a vacation.
I want to be your friend...not your enemy.
And I would much rather see you happy than p**sed off.

---------------------------------

My karma is at 154 and I'll be keeping an eye on it.
(it was at 155 yesterday but I think I can guess who took it down a point)
Please don't Boo me for stating my opinion here.


I haven't boo'd you, but I should for being so judgmental and posting ad hominem attacks. (Not surprisingly mines gone down, thanks)
I could waste my time with a item by item response, but why bother? I doubt you'd understand, I don't feel you want too.
You completely missed the point of the article, so why bother explaining it?
Ash, clearly you don't like me and that's fine. You think you know me, you don't.
But a least you thought of me, so I guess that's a good thing.

Quote
In my opinion, the AWM road is a dead end.


You may think the AWM is a dead end? There is this letter called the Declaration of Independence that was written by a bunch of AWM. The AWM is not some bigoted ass setting around with their hands in the air waiting for someone to fix a problem, the AWM sees the problem and address it, they don't wait for someone else to lead the way they lead.
You may loath the AWM, but without him it's a far less HAPPY world.

Quote from: Allhallowsday
Besides, I think of myself as more of a STRONG BLACK WOMAN. 


You're not alone, I think of you that way too. :tongueout:


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: Allhallowsday on February 22, 2008, 04:16:07 PM
Quote from: Allhallowsday
Besides, I think of myself as more of a STRONG BLACK WOMAN. 

You're not alone, I think of you that way too. :tongueout:
Well, I hope you got a chuckle out of it, CHEEZEE, 'cause that's the intent.   :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: RCMerchant on February 22, 2008, 06:38:58 PM
Just before I left for work this morning-the last post I read was Ash'es. I thought to my self-"uh-Oh...the s**t's gonna hit the fan now."

 I was wrong.

 I should have known better. As diverse as our political,religious and social backrounds are....thise forum ALWAYS has maintained a sense of dignity and respect for others beliefs. Sure, it gets a little heated and touch y at times-but it never has really devolped into an idiotic screaming match. You guys are too smart for it!!!!

  :cheers:


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: indianasmith on February 22, 2008, 08:02:09 PM
I just karma'd everybody on this page, because this is a GREAT debate!


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: CheezeFlixz on February 22, 2008, 09:44:10 PM
Quote from: Allhallowsday
Besides, I think of myself as more of a STRONG BLACK WOMAN. 

You're not alone, I think of you that way too. :tongueout:
Well, I hope you got a chuckle out of it, CHEEZEE, 'cause that's the intent.   :bouncegiggle:

Of course I laughed, we've had enough conversations by now for you to know I'm not going to get mad. If you get mad about something or someone on the internet then click the [X]

Just before I left for work this morning-the last post I read was Ash'es. I thought to my self-"uh-Oh...the s**t's gonna hit the fan now."

 I was wrong.

 I should have known better. As diverse as our political,religious and social backrounds are....thise forum ALWAYS has maintained a sense of dignity and respect for others beliefs. Sure, it gets a little heated and touch y at times-but it never has really devolped into an idiotic screaming match. You guys are too smart for it!!!!

  :cheers:

RC, life's to short ... either one get's it or they don't. You see the quintessential AWM is not necessarily angry, not necessarily white and not necessarily a man. Take Allhallowsday for example.

(it's a joke son)

I just karma'd everybody on this page, because this is a GREAT debate!

Thanks Indy.


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: Allhallowsday on February 22, 2008, 09:47:25 PM
RC, life's to short ... either one get's it or they don't. You see the quintessential AWM is not necessarily angry, not necessarily white and not necessarily a man. Take Allhallowsday for example.

(it's a joke son)
Not ALLHOLLOWHEAD???  :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:  Arencha glad I'm around to laugh at? 


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: CheezeFlixz on February 22, 2008, 09:53:07 PM
RC, life's to short ... either one get's it or they don't. You see the quintessential AWM is not necessarily angry, not necessarily white and not necessarily a man. Take Allhallowsday for example.

(it's a joke son)
Not ALLHOLLOWHEAD???  :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:  Arencha glad I'm around to laugh at? 

Well I'm trying not to be so angry ... you know sensitivity training and all.

(Insert mental image of Major Payne say ... Sens-i-tive.)


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: Allhallowsday on February 22, 2008, 10:00:30 PM
Thank you, DAMON.  Having been raised Catholic, I'm thinking more THOMAS A. DOOLEY


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: CheezeFlixz on February 22, 2008, 10:10:20 PM
Thank you, DAMON.  Having been raised Catholic, I'm thinking more THOMAS A. DOOLEY

But can he 'Deliver Us from Evil' ... not to get into his alleged personal life but I will never be that sensitive.


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: Allhallowsday on February 22, 2008, 10:25:22 PM
Thank you, DAMON.  Having been raised Catholic, I'm thinking more THOMAS A. DOOLEY

But can he 'Deliver Us from Evil' ... not to get into his alleged personal life but I will never be that sensitive.
He was thrown out of the Navy...  :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: CheezeFlixz on February 22, 2008, 10:29:27 PM
Yeah before the Village People were popular ... (you know the song.)


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: Allhallowsday on February 22, 2008, 11:01:09 PM
hmm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwiOXB_AwLY


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: Dennis on February 23, 2008, 12:36:20 PM
I've been following this all week, now that it's Saturday I have time to post a reply so I'm going to add my 2 cents, I believe I understand what our friend Cheezeflixz means when he says he's an angry white man, it has nothing to do with race or gender. It's that government, local, state and federal, do things in the name of fairness and equality that actually give an unfair advantage to one group or cause a problem for another group. I can understand the reasoning behind these decisions, can sometimes even see the need for them, that doesn't make them fair or right. It's the feeling that being a middle class working tax payer you are at times being discriminated against by the government your taxes support.


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: Patient7 on February 23, 2008, 04:18:09 PM
I really hope everybody on this thread noticed that a heated debate came up from Cheeze saying that he fits the profile described in the article.  And I must agree with an earlier post by Cheeze, or at least I think it was Cheeze, I was watching Undercover Brother as I read this so I was a bit distracted, but I digress, our country was built by angry white men and I think that if we were to come together as a people, be it black, white, man, or woman, our civilization can be better than it ever has, I may be insane, but the great people who built this planet up from the ground wer pretty nuts too, so I say, don't be an angry white man, be an angry, law abiding, crazy person.  This is Patient7, signing off.


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: RCMerchant on February 23, 2008, 05:44:53 PM
Yeah...this country was built by angry white men,  on paper,......the angry black men ,chinese men,were doing the physical labor....and the angry red men were fighting for there lives,. The AWM  is  p**sed off about various things that the goverment they built backfired on them. They expected the Constitution to stand for ONLY them...not slaves and 'injuns'.

 




Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: CheezeFlixz on February 23, 2008, 08:09:01 PM
I've been following this all week, now that it's Saturday I have time to post a reply so I'm going to add my 2 cents, I believe I understand what our friend Cheezeflixz means when he says he's an angry white man, it has nothing to do with race or gender. It's that government, local, state and federal, do things in the name of fairness and equality that actually give an unfair advantage to one group or cause a problem for another group. I can understand the reasoning behind these decisions, can sometimes even see the need for them, that doesn't make them fair or right. It's the feeling that being a middle class working tax payer you are at times being discriminated against by the government your taxes support.

BINGO and Karma!

The stories I could tell you!


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: Patient7 on February 23, 2008, 10:21:33 PM
Yeah...this country was built by angry white men,  on paper,......the angry black men ,chinese men,were doing the physical labor....and the angry red men were fighting for there lives,. The AWM  is  p**sed off about various things that the goverment they built backfired on them. They expected the Constitution to stand for ONLY them...not slaves and 'injuns'.

Well, fortunatley, times have changed, and now (most of us) have respect for people of all races.


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: CheezeFlixz on February 24, 2008, 02:18:21 AM
Yeah...this country was built by angry white men,  on paper,......the angry black men ,chinese men,were doing the physical labor....and the angry red men were fighting for there lives,. The AWM  is  p**sed off about various things that the goverment they built backfired on them. They expected the Constitution to stand for ONLY them...not slaves and 'injuns'.

Well, fortunatley, times have changed, and now (most of us) have respect for people of all races.

Even back in the day of the founding fathers it wasn't so much about race as it was about fairness from the crown, of which there was little. Granted the line "All men are created equal ..." seemed a bit absurd in a country that had slavery at the time. But that is a completely different topic unto itself.

I feel most people have respect for anyone that regardless of race, gender, national origin that puts in a honest days work, pays there taxes, takes care of their family and does it all without there hand stuck out as if they are owed something above and beyond their wages. I know I do, I don't see people based on their gender, race or origin I see them as either part of the solution, or part of the problem.
A lot of people needs a little help at some point in their life, and there is a huge difference in those looking for a hand up and those looking for a hand out. I take great belief in the adage give a man a fish he eats for a day (hand out), teach a man to fish he eats for a life time (hand up).


Title: Re: If you're a man, are you AN ANGRY WHITE MAN?
Post by: Patient7 on February 24, 2008, 11:11:47 PM
Yeah...this country was built by angry white men,  on paper,......the angry black men ,chinese men,were doing the physical labor....and the angry red men were fighting for there lives,. The AWM  is  p**sed off about various things that the goverment they built backfired on them. They expected the Constitution to stand for ONLY them...not slaves and 'injuns'.

Well, fortunatley, times have changed, and now (most of us) have respect for people of all races.

Even back in the day of the founding fathers it wasn't so much about race as it was about fairness from the crown, of which there was little. Granted the line "All men are created equal ..." seemed a bit absurd in a country that had slavery at the time. But that is a completely different topic unto itself.

I feel most people have respect for anyone that regardless of race, gender, national origin that puts in a honest days work, pays there taxes, takes care of their family and does it all without there hand stuck out as if they are owed something above and beyond their wages. I know I do, I don't see people based on their gender, race or origin I see them as either part of the solution, or part of the problem.
A lot of people needs a little help at some point in their life, and there is a huge difference in those looking for a hand up and those looking for a hand out. I take great belief in the adage give a man a fish he eats for a day (hand out), teach a man to fish he eats for a life time (hand up).

YEAH!!