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This actually looks pretty good! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKjL9ZqSNxs

Sorry.  I cannot condone colorization.  I respect the technology, but taking a black & white movie and colorizing it causes me great pain and anxiety.

Id watch it gives the movie an New school Old school feel kinda like " The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari" In Technicolor

I'm no fan of it either, but in this case its more of a novelty, like the Night of the Living Dead, Carnival of Souls, and Little Shop of Horrors DVDs released by the same company.  On the plus side, they include quality black and white transfers on their discs.

Not interested in this one or colorizations in general, but the colorized version of REEFER MADNESS might be worth a look just to see the purple clouds of pot smoke.

I whole heartedly agree. I'll admit that its cool that they can do that, but I'd still prefer the original black and white version.

Ya know, I think the colored version has a Mike Nelson commentary on the dvd! Neet!

I like how the film looks in color, but it's kind of like plastic surgery.  It looks better but it ruins what it once was.

The best part of those DVDs was the Mike Nelson commentary, not the colorization.  And since Mike redid the Plan 9 movie as a RiffTrax (with Bill and Kevin along as well) it was much better than the one on the DVD.  And hopefully that's the last time I watch Plan 9 for several years because it just burns me out.

I can't stand colorization.  DAMN YOU TED TURNER!!!!

If it was made in B/W than it was meant to be seen only in B/W.

Personally I don't mind colorization.  I know that's a terribly uncultured thing to say, but, oh well.  Some of the early attempts at it look pretty bad, but the technology seems to have improved to the point where you can't really tell that the film wasn't originally in color.  At least I can't.  I'm not saying I think everything should be colorized and that's all that should be available - no no no - the original versions should always be available and in many cases I prefer them.  Val Lewton's old zombie films have such masterful use of light and shadow, I'd never want to see those in color.  Or Universal's Frankenstein.  But a lot of other stuff, hey, I'll give it a look-see.  I feel that although there's a certain artistic aspect with B&W that is lost with colorization, a lot is gained as well.  It was just a limitation of technology - the stuff in front of the camera was in color, and if they had the ability, most people would have used color film.  And as with most things, only a few people truly had the ability to make full artistic use of the B&W medium.  Many others didn't bother with that stuff, they were just trying to get a story across and didn't have the time or money to worry about all that artsy stuff.  Like Ed Wood.  Personally, I feel that the atmosphere of the B&W Plan 9 is still there (I'm just going by the trailer, haven't seen the whole movie), but we've gained some things like the space man's bright purple coat, the zombie woman's green face makeup, etc.  It's a movie I watch for amusement, and color makes it more amusing.  For me at least  :teddyr:

It's not much different from all these Director's Cuts and Unrated Editions we see all the time.  They changed the movie, and I liked the original just fine, but I guess I can live with it.  Who knows, there's a possibility it might actually be an improvenment. 

I have no problem with colorization! As stated above, in some cases you can't even tell if it was ever in b/w. But I'd still prefer to watch the original first for the reasons Torgo mentioned:

Then you can just think of the colorized one as an alternate version, which might or might not, be better than the original. (Yes, I said it: "better"!) Probably worse most of the times, but perhaps still worth a look.  :smile:
I actually think "Plan 9" looks pretty interesting with a paint job!   :thumbup:

I bought the Mike Nelson Autographed version. Love the colors! The Purple Shirts of the Aliens really pop out.
The best part is still Vampira. How DID she get her waist so tiny?

I saw this interview with her this one time on the internet and she said that she lined her belt with some mild flesh-eating bactiria.

An abomination I says...colorizing old movies.  :thumbdown:

PLAN 9 is so much fun, you don't need crayons or idiotic commentary to enjoy it.  it's hardly the worst movie ever made, since it has entertained so many people.  it's not boring, like real bad movies are.

colorizing is weak and lame.  people who don't watch b/w movies don't deserve them, and won't watch new crayonized versions of those movies (this one looks way worse than the new Harryhausen discs, which still look pretty lousy).

David

I think many are being a bit overly sensitive. It's not like they're taking away the B/W version, they're just putting out a colorized version of it, AS IF colorizing could POSSIBLY hurt that film. I'm betting the colorization brings out a completely new level of incompetence.


C'mon, that's a bit arrogant don't you say? It's no different than if someone said "Anyone that doesn't want to see everything in color doesn't deserve a television"



And you speak for all writers/directors? Do you really believe EVERY B/W film would have still been made in B/W if color was a viable option at the time?

I'm amazed to see this level of elietism and arrogance here, I've never seen it before.

i guess i should have put a  :bouncegiggle: there or something after my "don't deserve it" comment, but hearing stupid little kids talk about how bad b/w movies are just because they are b/w gets on my nerves (i don't mean people here, just in "real" life).  but no, i don't say it's arrogant.

but i do believe it's true.  there's an art to shooting in b/w, and the colors are designed to make you see them properly.  things are lit differently as well.  Superman's colors in the b/w season and serials are gray and lighter gray, not the traditional colors.  so most of the time they aren't even crayonizing the movies to the colors used.

but you are right about not having to watch the colorized movies.  still, younger fans that don't watch old movies, color or not, aren't gonna suddenly say "i better watch Plan 9 now that it's in color", or 20,000,000 MILES TO EARTH or anything. just not gonna happen.

David

People who think that b/w movies are boring or stupid because they are b/w have never seen Young Frankenstein.

It's heresy, I say, heresy.

A good (or bad) b&w movie just has such a different feel to it, much like b&w photography.  Adding color to it just takes away the whole atmosphere, the subtle shadowing.  Could you imagine The Maltese Falcon or the Big Sleep in color?  Shudder.

I agree with you partially Raj, but really, Plan 9 ain't no Maltese Falcon. I agree coloring a B/W film/picture CAN change things like the atmosphere, , but honestly, many movies don't have any in the first place. Sometimes that change is good, sometimes not, and for any given film, some will like the change, some will not. But, to lay a blanket statement regarding all B/W films is, well, arrogant, as if one is invalidating opposing opinions.


Of course some will be more likely to suit through a movie one way or the other. When I get the colorized version of Plan 9, I bet I'll watch it more than the B/W version. I'm just not seeing what "atmosphere" or "art" is going to be "covered" by colorizing it. 

In most cases, nothing is going to be subtracted by colorizing a B&W movie.  But I can't think of many cases where something will be added by colorization. 

BHAH!! Something are just better left alone ... I don't like it when someone that was on the movie, didn't work on the movie sets down 50 years later at a computer and says ... "You know I think that shirt looks better blue than green." There is no way of knowing I don't believe of knowing what the exact colors were, it's someones opinion that had nothing to do with the movie originally.
Besides B/W gives it more of that dreamy feel than the realism of color. Leave something to the imagination.

Cheeze, I had to give you karma because of that argument.  You made such of a point about one person's opinion literally changing the substance of a movie AND there is the fact that when a movie is in black and white, it allows the imagination to work a little more, I think that, that shirt is dark blue.  I think that it's dark green.  It doesn't matter it's the way I see it.  However, when colorized you see things in the color the film company made something to make it more visible.  Green smoke???  How incompetent!