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Title: What makes you angry?
Post by: Patient7 on February 23, 2008, 10:32:16 PM
Here we go, just say what's been going on with your life or just with the world in general that makes you mad, angry, cranky, hissy, or just plain ARGGGGGGGGHHHHH!!

People who say they'll beat you up but wont even punch you when you tell them to go ahead.  "Take the first punch," I would say.  "I will," they would say.  "Go ahead," I would say.  Then I had them trapped, I won, and I was off to my next adventure.


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Mr. DS on February 24, 2008, 11:55:41 AM
Right now, parents who have no control over their kids.  These are usually the same parents that try to buy their kid's happiness and pump their kids with Ritalin if they aren't happy.  A little structure in a kid's life goes a long way. 


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: lester1/2jr on February 24, 2008, 12:11:48 PM
the government.  state government is bad, especially here in massachusetts, but fedral governent because they can declare wars and print money.

I hate GOOD government too.  it jsut paves the way for the next idiot to take advantage of the good will to wreck more stuff.


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Dennis on February 24, 2008, 12:45:35 PM
I get angry when people or organizations refuse to accept and/or admit responsibility for the consequences of their own actions. I also get angry when these same people waste time, energy and money in an attempt to find and punish a scapegoat instead of solving the problem they've created.
 


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Ed, Ego and Superego on February 24, 2008, 07:20:21 PM
Internet trolls... get a life people. 


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: akiratubo on February 24, 2008, 09:50:38 PM
I'm an overnight baker.  Day employees show up an hour or so before I leave.  Sometimes, they take stuff out of the oven before it's ready, or turn the oven off and leave things in it to burn.

BAKING IS MY JOB!  DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE OVEN IF IT'S BEEPING!  If the oven is beeping, I'LL GET IT!  DON'T TOUCH IT WHEN I'M AROUND!


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Patient7 on February 24, 2008, 11:00:38 PM
Hooray for Darksider!!  Especially the parents who say their kids aren't misbehaving "their just expressing themselves,"  well guess what, I'm ready to "express myself" all over your front porch!  As for Ed if internet trolls are those people who go onto a reply board for a game on a website or a youtube video and post the same reply 50 times as if that'll get it read more, then I agree with you 100%.


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Killer Bees on February 24, 2008, 11:17:55 PM
Okay now you've opened a can of worms  *lol*

Let me see.....in no particular order:

1.  Co workers who bludge around and do nothing all day while I'm busy as all crap. Thankfully that doesn't happen that often these days.

2.  Parents who don't control their kids and then get mad when you tell the kid off.  That doesn't stop me from voicing my opinion.  The funniest thing is having a spaz at the kid and then when he turns to his parent for back up, I spaz at the parent.  The kid's eyes nearly bug out of their heads  *lol*  No matter how nasty the parent is, I have this amazing ability to freak out right iat them and they get all frightened and take off.

3.  People who push in front of you in a crowded line.

4.  People who don't wear anti perspirant in summer.  Everyone who lives here knows we get hot humid summers.  We are famous for it.  We're a sub tropical climate for corn's sake.  On Saturday it was 40C (104F) degrees and Sunday was 31C (87F).  So don't tell me you didn't know.  I don't care what culture you come from, use goddamned anti perspirant or stay at home and stink up your own house to your heart's content      :hatred:

5.  Smokers who look daggers at you when they blow smoke in your direction and you fan the cloud of stink away from your face.  Wankers.  Go kill yourself in your own space.

6.  "Homeless" people who accost me for money or beg me to buy their lame arse magazine and then the next day you see them with mobile phones, cigarettes and other high cost items that I can't afford and I'm working full time.  One guy even had an electric guitar with a small amplifier and he had a sign asking for money!!!   :buggedout:

7.  Those charity people who yell at you to stop and give them "just five minutes of your time".  p**s off.  If I want to give to charity, I'll send a cheque to the head office.  I have the right to walk down the street unmolested and unaccosted and I don't appreciate you hounding me and then giving me "the look" when I tell you no thanks.  If the charity stopped paying your wages, more of my money would go to the people who need it and there'd be no need for your stupid arse haranging me.


8.  Dickheads in small "girly" cars who have their rap turned up so high, the bass beat  hurts your chest from across the road.  

9.  In this day of high speed internet access (especially here at work), it really irks me when you're typing and you're about 20 words ahead of what's showing on screen.  That's been happening here a lot lately.  And all those overpaid llazy arses in IT can say is either, "we're working on it" or "after this system upgrade, things will get better" (they never do) or my favourite "I don't know what's causing that, everything should be working fine.  Are you sure you're <insert random task you should be doing that has nothing to do with anything>"

10.  When my stupid Gemini sister (the one I don't speak to anymore) does something monumentally nasty and and hurtful to me and then when I have a go at her, she says "oh, Michelle, don't be like that!"   :hatred:

Okay, I should stop at ten, otherwise I'll be here all day.  *lol*


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: indianasmith on February 24, 2008, 11:22:28 PM
ISLAMO-FASCISTS!!!!!  :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot:  Not your typical, peace-loving Muslim who just wants to do his job, earn a check, and pray to Allah, but these fanatical hotheads who stone women for letting their faces go uncovered and protest, when someone comments on Islam's violent history, by shooting nuns and torching Christian schools to prove how nonviolent they are.   The world would be a better place of their heads all simultaneously exploded!


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Shadow on February 25, 2008, 12:19:17 AM
1. Parents who cannot or refuse to control their children, especially at restaurants and movie theaters. I didn't pay good money to sit here and listen to your kid scream while he runs around out of control! :hatred:

2. Self absorbed drivers who are utterly unaware of what is transpiring around them. They drag their ass in the fast lane, pull out in front of oncoming traffic without bothering to take into account the speed of that oncoming traffic and zone out at traffic lights, thus making others miss the light because they cannot pay attention. :hatred:

3. The inability for so many people to take personal responsibility for their choices and actions. It seems like in today's society nothing is ever anyone's fault. It is always a result of a traumatic childhood or exploitation by capitalist businesses or some other crybaby excuse. No one forced you to have sex, so deal with the unwanted pregnancy. No one put a gun to your head and made you eat Big Macs all day, so don't blame Ronald McDonald cuz you're fat. You know damn well that cigarettes are not healthy, so you have no one to blame but yourself for that lung cancer. GAH!! :hatred:

4. The need to coddle children in our society and never let them feel bad about anything. UGH! The way everyone gets a ribbon or medal in a competition or how no one gets an "F" despite obviously failing a subject or even the need to force kids to wear combat armor in order to ride their freakin' bikes. All this does is create a generation of losers who think things in life will be handed to them and that they don't have to work hard. Kids need to feel bad about losing or failing. It's what makes them get up and try harder next time. They need to fall down and scrape their knees, then next time they will know to be more careful. :hatred:

5. Political correctness. It can bite my shiny metal ass. :hatred:

6. Religious nuts, from any religion. Fine, you have your faith. I can respect that, but quit trying to tell me how to live my life. :hatred:


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Mr. DS on February 25, 2008, 07:39:51 AM
Time Murderers.  This is a concept that I heard Henry Rollins talking about in one of his stand up routines.  It's basic concept is that we live very short lives.  All we have is time on this earth and not a single second of it do you get back when its over. 

So, when that idiot in front of you takes an extra two minutes of your time while you wait, they are murdering you just a little.  Little bits of time of your life gets stripped away because someone can't figure simple sh*t out.  I've always felt this way when I'm at;

1.) At self checkouts, ATMs, automated postal machines.  I always get stuck behind the moron who makes something as pointing and pressing a screen rocket science.  If they don't know what they're doing, they should come back to the store at later hours to practice.  Let the smart people blow by you in a speedy method.

2.) Driving.  I read somewhere recently you spend 2 weeks waiting in traffic in a lifetime. This is re-god@mn-diculous I can get through any curve without slowing down to below 55, why can't everyone else. 

3.) The idiots in drive thrus that can't get off their @ss to walk in to order everything off the menu.  Nothing I hate more than when I order a simple chicken sandwich and the guy in front of me makes me wait 5 extra minutes because he has 3 bags worth of crap.  There is a reason people like this are fat. 

And so on...theres many more examples...

Aside that I hate Christmas.  I've already stated why in another post.  I also hate the Oscars.  I was reminded this morning why I don't watch it.  I'd rather not honor artsy fartsy films that I'm never going to want to see.  I'd rather watch the crap I'm used to seeing. 


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: odinn7 on February 25, 2008, 01:07:17 PM
I feel the need to point this out and I will probably be quite unpopular because of it but anyway...

I understand the comments about people who can't control their kids, I really do BUT...in some cases, it is more than just the parents being bad parents.

My GF has an autistic child...he is 5 years old and is the cutest thing you've ever seen. By all accounts, he looks like any other kid as in you can't tell just by looking at him that there is anything wrong at all. However, there are times that due to his "condition" he will act out and look like an uncontrollable child. When an autistic child has their episode, there is little you can do with it. Threatening them, smacking them, yelling at them...it does no good and it's not something that you should be doing to a child who isn't in control of their own actions.

My GF has had extensive learning with her child and she is the best mother I have ever seen. She takes great pride in both of her children and cares about them more than anything else. She took the time to learn through reading and speaking with experts on autism.

There are a few things you can do to help quiet an autistic child that has an episode but pretty much, until that episode passes on its own, it's going to happen. Unfortunately, to most people that aren't aware, it looks like she is just letting the child do what he wants and have a fit and that disturbs her because her and her boy are being judged by people that have no clue.

All I'm saying is that next time you see an "unruly" child...stop and think...just because the child doesn't look like they have anything wrong with them doesn't mean anything. Sure, there are plenty of kids that are unruly with terrible parents...my nieces and nephews are all like that...but keep in mind, not all kids are unruly because the parents suck or because the child is just an ass.


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: ulthar on February 25, 2008, 01:38:27 PM

 that disturbs her because her and her boy are being judged by people that have no clue.


Very good point.  Most judgementalism is like this - made by people that have no clue.

Many folks that complain about unruly children don't have children; there is some saying I seem to remember about walking a mile in someone's shoes before setting them up for judgement.  Those folks also often seem to forget they are generally seeing but a tiny snapshot into the child's behavior and the parental response to that behavior.  It's also easy to forget that in this day and age, how you interact with your children in public is under constant scrutiny - around every corner is someone ready to call the cops.

Quick anecdote to burn some karma and illustrate how screwed up this can be.  995 times out of 1000, my daughter is extremely well behaved in public places.  In fact, we've had people in restaurants come to us and apologize for thinking "oh know" when they saw us sit down - then thanking us for how quiet and well mannered they are.  But, there are those 5 times in 1000.

We were in a store in Colorado a year or two ago and my daughter wanted to try on some socks (she did not need socks and that's not what we were in there for).  I told her "no" and so she pitched a whopper of a tantrum.  I did this to my Mom in a store when I was about the same age, so this is part of the great turning of the Tao I guess.

Anyway, she was screaming bloody murder and probably throwing out some choice "I hate you" type comments.  The ONLY 'discipline' she had received was being told "no" to "can I try on some socks."

In addition to the dire looks from other customers, the store's Rent-A-Cop came moseying over to snoop around.  I've worked in Law Enforcement long enough to know how to read certain body language in potentially confrontational situations, and I could tell she was looking to bust my butt for child abuse.  She came over there just convinced I was hurting my daughter.  She never said a word, and she did back off a little bit when I gave her a little body language signalling of my own - but the whole time we were in the store, she stayed near us. Her sereptitious looks around display cases served only to p**s me off even more, and it was only at the request of my wife that a direct challenge was not offered.

So, what do you do?  I let her fuss that day until we were ready to go (which really was not that long anyway).  I figured, why feed into her crap and give her the message that that is how she'll get attention?  Besides, if I had done ANYTHING to give that Guard chick an excuse, I'm sure I would have been going downtown.  I guess I should be sorry if I subjected less than 20 people to some crying for less than five minutes.  But I'll raise my daughter the way I see fit, so I'm NOT sorry that I tried to teach her a bigger lesson in that the id doesn't always have to be served.

Food for thought....


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: odinn7 on February 25, 2008, 01:49:20 PM
Thank you Ulthar for backing up what I was saying in a round about way.


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Mr. DS on February 25, 2008, 04:13:06 PM
Odin and Ulthar.  Indeed there are children who misbehave and/or may have a condition like autism. I completely understand where you're coming from.  I myself am a father and my son has had his moments per se in stores and whatnot.  That is when I quickly remove him from the store or take him in the back to calm him down.

Speaking on behalf of myself and my comments, I am referring to parents that go out of their way to buy their kid's happiness.  Aka, parents who fuel bad behavior.  For example, I've seen so many parents say to kids "we're not getting anything" and when the kid tantrums they go right ahead and buy it to shut them up.  Its simply wrong IMHO and I see it all the time.  My wife has an aunt who does this and her kids are completely unappreciative and out of control.   Example, my son recently had a birthday party and her daughter kept stealing the spotlight opening his presents.  The whole f'n time I kept wondering if this aunt was going to do a damn thing about it.  Nope...and if I would have interferred I would have been labeled the d*ck. The kicker for me is this aunt wonders WHY her kids are little brats!!!

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1. Parents who cannot or refuse to control their children, especially at restaurants and movie theaters. I didn't pay good money to sit here and listen to your kid scream while he runs around out of control!


I'm with Shadow on this one for a few reasons.  Before being a parent, my wife and I would save one day every few weeks to go out to eat.  We didn't have a whole bunch of money so although we would be eating at Ruby Tuesday, it was a big deal and our time out.  I can't count how many times this was ruined by a screaming kid.  That and movies ruined by people who drag their kid to an "R" rated film.  These are the parents I can't figure out.

In closing, I respect your opinions and they are well formed.  However, I can see where the others are coming from in this situation. 


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: ulthar on February 25, 2008, 05:23:48 PM

In closing, I respect your opinions and they are well formed.  However, I can see where the others are coming from in this situation. 


The thing I really bristle against is the overgeneralization. As Odinn said, seeing a kid misbehaving does not automatically equate with bad parent.  That's a kneejerk response.

The examples you presented are good ones.  Those situations would bug me, also.  (On the other child opening the presents, I'd have to wear the d!ck label...I'd definately say something).

I will say I'm a little sensitive to the issue of children in restaurants.  I agree 100% that some children grossly misbehave and some parents fuel the problem.  But, I cannot help getting rather PO'd when we are at a restaurant with our children and people act indignant when seated next to us by the hostess.  I've seen several request to move.  I think that is extremely rude, selfish and uncouth, but hey, to each their own.

As it has been said, they are paying their money to be there.  But then again, so are we, and so long as my children are NOT being disruptive, I resent the assumption that they will be.  In a sense, it's a negative reinforcement of proper behavior.

What has boggled my mind is the number of times (and it has happened quite frequently) that folks at restaurants approach us to comment on it.  Some have even apologized for making that assumption!

Is it indeed THAT rare for children to behave in restaurants?

(Lest I sound like I am falsely building my children up, hehe, I really don't know WHY they tend to behave when we are out.  Here at home, they can bounce off the walls with the best of 'em).   :wink:


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: odinn7 on February 25, 2008, 05:47:24 PM
I know what you're saying Darksider and I've had my share of those moments too...I guess all I'm trying to say is there may be underlying things causing the situation you are witnessing and just that maybe people should stop and think before staring, glaring, or making rude comments. I know my GF has been hurt many times by having nasty comments directed at her and her son...yeah, she could easily tell these people that her boy is autistic but is she obligated to? Not at all...and it shouldn't have to be explained to anyone.


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Patient7 on February 25, 2008, 07:00:25 PM
Excellent replies, i hope this thread has been giving people a good chance to vent their rage, and give parents a chance to explain why their kids act up or at the very least, say that it is a rarity.  Keep it up!  And remember don't get mad get  :hatred: :hatred: :hatred: :hatred: :hatred: :hatred: :hatred:


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Shadow on February 25, 2008, 07:27:48 PM
As someone who voiced anger at wild kids and parents who refuse to control them, I understand that not every child or situation can be held to the same standard. My point is more when a child is obviously out of control and the parent does nothing. Like when a kid is up and walking around a restaurant while their parents continue to eat and not bother to go get them. Or kids running up and down the aisle at the movies and the parents just watch them, not making a move to stop the behaviour. That is what I meant. I know all kids will act up on occasion, and truth told, when a kid is crying or having a tantrum, most times I ignore it, as I know that is normal with children. It's the times when the parents are obviously doing nothing to correct the situation that bugs me.

Many folks that complain about unruly children don't have children; there is some saying I seem to remember about walking a mile in someone's shoes before setting them up for judgement.

Not to argumentative, but by that same logic, people who have never held public office should not comment on politics, people who have never played sports have no business talking about it and those who have never left the country should be quiet on things outside of America's borders. Just because I don't have first hand knowledge of something, does not mean I cannot comment on it in an informed manner. :cheers:


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: ulthar on February 25, 2008, 08:01:09 PM

Not to argumentative, but by that same logic, people who have never held public office should not comment on politics, people who have never played sports have no business talking about it and those who have never left the country should be quiet on things outside of America's borders. Just because I don't have first hand knowledge of something, does not mean I cannot comment on it in an informed manner. :cheers:


Not what I'm saying...I'm just saying be a little sympathetic - try to see from their perspective.


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Shadow on February 25, 2008, 08:23:18 PM
Ok, got ya! :smile:


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: odinn7 on February 25, 2008, 09:40:25 PM
To be clear on something...my comments weren't directed at anyone in particular here...it was just reading about the complaints of unruly kids that made me think about that.

I also know very well about the kids running around free in a restaurant. My brother in law allows his children to do that because it's easier than telling them to sit down. I can't stand that.


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Mr. DS on February 25, 2008, 09:49:00 PM
Ulthar, I've had people compliment my son also and it feels great.  I've already decided that the next time I see a well behaved kid I'm going to return the favor to those parents.  Perhaps I go out at the wrong time but I always get seated next to the whiny kids.  My son will actually shoot them a dirty look which amuses me.

None the less, as always I'm glad we can discuss things as gentlemen.   :cheers:   


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: ulthar on February 25, 2008, 11:15:53 PM

None the less, as always I'm glad we can discuss things as gentlemen.   :cheers:   


Darn tootin.' It's part of what makes this one of the best sites on the 'Net.  Karrrrma to you for puttin' up with someone's kid openin' those presents.


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: clockworkcanary on February 26, 2008, 11:15:19 AM
I disdain searching for a clip of a show on youtube only to find some asses who make silly montages with their incredibly bad selection of music lol.  If I wanted to hear someone elses' s**tty music I'd take a ride through a trailer court.  I was just searching clips of Justice League/Justice League Unlimited and it seems every one of the clips is overdubbed with some stupid song that does't fit the clip at all.


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Ash on February 26, 2008, 03:13:41 PM
I disdain searching for a clip of a show on youtube only to find some asses who make silly montages with their incredibly bad selection of music lol. 


No doubt!
I was just complaining about this the other day to a friend.
I'll go to look for a film clip of a specific scene and instead, they're all set to music.
It wouldn't be so bad if the music actually went with the scene.
I read somewhere that for certain material, Youtube won't yank the clip if it's set to music.
If it's not set to music, Youtube considers that copyright violation. (not 100% on that)
If I remember correctly, that info can be found on Youtube somewhere.  (I'm pretty sure that's where I read it)

------------------------------------

And speaking of unruly kids...
Did any of you hear about the teen who got into it with a bus driver recently?
Read the article first to understand what's going on in the video below.
Click here to read the full article (http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=4344477&page=1)

Watch the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NvWukOvZs0
(NOT SAFE FOR WORK due to bad language)

If you go to the ABC news message board for this story (http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/comments?type=story&id=4344477), people overwhelmingly support the bus driver.
What's your take on this?


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: trekgeezer on February 26, 2008, 03:58:09 PM
I'm going to put a twist on the unruly kids.  What p**ses me off is unruly parents.  It really irritates me when I see a family in a restaurant talking and when one of the kids opines about something they're told to shut up or they get smacked for daring to speak.  My opinion has always been that kids should be talked to like people. They deserve the same courtesy as anyone else. Shut up was one of those we don't say that phrases around our house.

I also hate it when parents take their small children toy shopping around the holidays and then get upset because the little tykes want everything they see.  Toys R Us is full of screaming kids right before Christmas.

Don't feel bad Ulthar, my kids were always well behaved when we ate out too.   


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: clockworkcanary on February 26, 2008, 05:33:27 PM
I agree Trekgeezer: I try to talk to my little one like an adult (at least attempt it) and couldn't imagine needing to ever say "shuddup" - I mean, kids are people too (isn't that an old 70s show name?! lol).  It's amazing how kids try to act grown up if they're given a chance.  Still, kids are kids and all, but I try to get my little one to speak her opinion as far as a 2 year old is capable of doing ...and it really helps her vocabulary at the same time.


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Patient7 on February 26, 2008, 06:43:50 PM
You know Trekgeezer, when I was young(er) there were times when I was treated like a small child by people I didn't really know, (I have actually been considered quite intelligent most of my life)  even the other week, I bought a magazine (MAD if you're wondering) and I noticed that the cashier's name was Opal (or something like that) and I looked at her like, "Who names their kid Opal?"  and she asked "Did you want to hold the magazine?" like I was a (*&$#!@ six year old!!!! :hatred:

As for Ash, that girl was quite a b^)*&.  You can tell she knew she had no reason to be yelling about anything though because her mood went from mad to sad to mad to sad to mad to haha to CRAYAYAYAYAYZY, not a fan of those kinds of people. :hatred:

Karma for the both of you.


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: clockworkcanary on February 26, 2008, 07:41:34 PM
Something else I'm starting to disdain...this never-ending Winter!  C'mon Springtime! The gray skies are getting a little old; can't wait to see Mr. Sol again!  C'mon sunshine!


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: odinn7 on February 26, 2008, 10:28:51 PM
Something else I'm starting to disdain...this never-ending Winter!  C'mon Springtime! The gray skies are getting a little old; can't wait to see Mr. Sol again!  C'mon sunshine!

I hear ya!


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Patient7 on February 27, 2008, 06:49:30 PM
Something else I'm starting to disdain...this never-ending Winter!  C'mon Springtime! The gray skies are getting a little old; can't wait to see Mr. Sol again!  C'mon sunshine!

Hear Hear!


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: CheezeFlixz on February 28, 2008, 12:42:30 AM
Even though I am the Angry White Man, actually very little makes me angry ... I just don't have space in my head to give it out rent free to be angry about something. It just doesn't solve the problem, besides, don't get mad, get even.


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Trevor on February 28, 2008, 05:18:00 AM
 :hatred: These $#%^&* make me angry!  :hatred:

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/02/27/saf.racist.video/index.html (http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/02/27/saf.racist.video/index.html)

This is truly disgusting to think that 16 years after democracy, such a thing could happen.

I was on this campus in July 2007 for our film festival: I will not be going there this year.


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Killer Bees on February 28, 2008, 06:31:38 PM
I agree, Trevor.  That's just ridiculous.  It amazes me that people still act this way.  I guess the human capacity for inhumanity is endless.


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Justy on February 29, 2008, 07:06:04 AM
the government.  state government is bad, especially here in massachusetts, but fedral governent because they can declare wars and print money.

I hate GOOD government too.  it jsut paves the way for the next idiot to take advantage of the good will to wreck more stuff.

Don't blame me I voted for Muffy.



Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Eyesore on March 01, 2008, 06:58:38 PM
 I had to go take an HIV and Hepatitis B&C test yesterday because of this http://www.lvrj.com/news/16067972.html yesterday. Knowing that I may have infected my wife...well, I don't have any words right now.


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: ulthar on March 01, 2008, 10:11:16 PM
I had to go take an HIV and Hepatitis B&C test yesterday because of this [url]http://www.lvrj.com/news/16067972.html[/url] yesterday. Knowing that I may have infected my wife...well, I don't have any words right now.


Holy Mackeral!  That goes beyond angry.

I did not read the whole article, but I sure hope criminal charges are in the works...severe criminal charges.  There's just no excuse for that sort of thing.

Just Wow.


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Eyesore on March 01, 2008, 10:33:11 PM
 I know, inconceivable isn't it? Reusing syringes and cleaning solution. The labs are overwhelmed right now due to the influx of people getting these tests. They told me it would be 5 to 10 days before I get my results. There were old people and Mom's with kids in there getting tested. All of this because some millionaires had to save some money.

 This story broke on Thursday, and I got tested yesterday. I've been numb until this afternoon. I still can't quite grasp why this should ever happen.


 I'm just surfing around for distraction purposes now, on auto-pilot I guess.


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: odinn7 on March 03, 2008, 04:18:16 PM
I'm sorry of your situation and I hope things work out for you and your family.

What truly amazes me here is that nobody that worked there came forward to say anything. They all knew that was wrong and was a health risk yet they were all too concerned about their jobs obviously that they didn't say anything. Sick...just sick.


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Mr. DS on March 03, 2008, 05:41:33 PM
I had to go take an HIV and Hepatitis B&C test yesterday because of this [url]http://www.lvrj.com/news/16067972.html[/url] yesterday. Knowing that I may have infected my wife...well, I don't have any words right now.


That is the single worst story I have seen in the past few years.  I hope all goes well for you and yours. 


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Killer Bees on March 03, 2008, 10:54:37 PM
That's a nightmare story you usually hear about in third world countries, not somewhere as rich as the US!  I'm sorry you're having a hard time, I really hope things work out okay for you.

I'll send you love and good thoughts.  Try to stay positive and just remember that this in not your fault in any way.  The blame belongs squarely at the feet of arseholes playing with peoples' lives.

I hope those bastards get tossed in jail for a long long time.


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Andrew on March 05, 2008, 12:34:19 PM
I had to go take an HIV and Hepatitis B&C test yesterday because of this [url]http://www.lvrj.com/news/16067972.html[/url] yesterday. Knowing that I may have infected my wife...well, I don't have any words right now.


I have kept coming back to this thread, because I was trying to think exactly what I wanted to say.  That your family (and thousands of others) have to go through this is plenty reason for anger.  Especially because, from what the article says, it's not a false alert - people were infected by the clinic's failing.

The most troubling aspect is that those doctors and nurses knew, for certain, that doing that was wrong.  They did it anyway, because it was "the way it was done."  Something I repeat to myself often is to raise my children to think.  I want them to be good citizens, not cattle.  If something is wrong, it doesn't matter how many people are doing it, it is wrong. 

My best to you and the family.  I hope it comes to nothing more than stress and worry once the tests come back.


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: flackbait on March 05, 2008, 05:08:44 PM
I had to go take an HIV and Hepatitis B&C test yesterday because of this [url]http://www.lvrj.com/news/16067972.html[/url] yesterday. Knowing that I may have infected my wife...well, I don't have any words right now.

My condolences, I wish you and your family luck. I think thats probably the most bastardly thing I've heard of in ages.




Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Patient7 on March 05, 2008, 05:32:22 PM
I had to go take an HIV and Hepatitis B&C test yesterday because of this [url]http://www.lvrj.com/news/16067972.html[/url] yesterday. Knowing that I may have infected my wife...well, I don't have any words right now.



Those doctors have some serious problems, anybody stupid enough to reuse a syringe should not have a college degree of any kind, let alone a medical degree.


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Eyesore on March 05, 2008, 07:17:51 PM
 Thank you all for the kind words. Normally, I don't throw stuff like this around the Net, but I can only assume that I was  trying to force myself to feel something other than guilt. I really only feel a terrible, all encompassing feeling that I may have harmed my wife through the neglect and greed of others. I KNOW it isn't my fault, but it still is.

 Oddly, I haven't hit the anger stage yet. Possibly when the test results come in, I'll have the chance to supernova, but I can't really control that. I just can't get the faces of the people (especially the kids) at the lab out of my mind. There really is no way to express what I'm feeling right now, because I really don't know IF I'm feeling (if that makes any sense?) right now.

 After re-reading this, it's obvious that I internalize things! I think this weekend I'll do some off-roading in the desert, maybe do some shooting, hike with my dog. That always puts my head straight. I haven't heard from the lab yet, so it looks like another 5 days to go, give or take.

 Thanks again for your support.

 


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: clockworkcanary on March 06, 2008, 09:57:53 AM
Eye, wishin you the best.  I got on the thread to post my anger with Microshaft Word and it's loopy attributes but then realized I have nothing worth b!tching about compared to others.  I wish you the best for you and your family.  I would be irrate myself; hell, I would effing wreeek havoc!


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Trevor on March 06, 2008, 10:20:04 AM
Eyesore, I just read this and am now as angry as I've ever been.  :hatred:

It is crazy for people like this to do what they did: have they forgotten their Hippocratic Oath that begins "First do no harm" or what?

You and your family are in my thoughts: warm greetings and warm wishes from South Africa, be strong, we are with you.  :smile:


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Eyesore on March 06, 2008, 11:57:59 PM
 First off, thank you everyone for your support. I got my test results tonight, and I was negative for all 3 diseases! Right now my muscles are making funny noises as I'm beginning to relax. I'm beyond happy, as a matter of fact, I think I'm going to slip into a much needed coma 'til 4:30 a.m., then back to work with renewed focus.

 Thanks again, and I'll close this portion of my hijacking of this thread with some lines from the only song that I've ever called "My Song": "Things The Grandchildren Should Know", by Eels.

"So in the end i'd like to say
That i'm a very thankful man
I tried to make the most of my situations
And enjoy what i had
I knew true love and i knew passion
And the difference between the two
And i had some regrets
But if i had to do it all again
Well, it's something i'd like to do"


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Trevor on March 07, 2008, 01:16:22 AM
What makes me angry No, your post saying that you're clear made me smile with quite a bit of relief so all I can add is  :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: and definitely  :teddyr:

Good wishes! :thumbup:


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Patient7 on March 07, 2008, 05:20:00 PM
That's excellent Eyesore, I couldn't be happier for you, unless you won the lottery right after you got these results.


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: flackbait on March 07, 2008, 11:50:24 PM
Congradulations man! Now go live it up! :cheers:


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: KYGOTC on March 08, 2008, 02:25:02 AM
I had to go take an HIV and Hepatitis B&C test yesterday because of this [url]http://www.lvrj.com/news/16067972.html[/url] yesterday. Knowing that I may have infected my wife...well, I don't have any words right now.



Thats dumb. I mean, im not saying YOU'RE dumb, I'm just saying that re-using needles is dumb and should be , i dunno, I'm at a loss of words. I hope you turn out all right, man.


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: KYGOTC on March 08, 2008, 02:35:32 AM
Watch the video:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NvWukOvZs0[/url]
(NOT SAFE FOR WORK due to bad language)

If you go to the ABC news message board for this story ([url]http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/comments?type=story&id=4344477[/url]), people overwhelmingly support the bus driver.
What's your take on this?


I dont get it. If the dumb b!Tc# didnt want to go to school, why didnt the driver let her get off? Then she wouldnt have to deal with her.


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Patient7 on March 08, 2008, 03:39:44 PM
KYGOTC

The reason why the driver wouldn't let her off was because as soon as a kid gets on that bus, it's the driver's responsibility.  That's why they can't let kids from other buses get on because if something happens there is a whole "hooplah" as my driver says.


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: KYGOTC on March 08, 2008, 04:33:00 PM
OH, thaT makes sense. I rarely took the bus durring high school, so i dont know these things.


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Patient7 on March 09, 2008, 12:54:21 AM
OH, thaT makes sense. I rarely took the bus durring high school, so i dont know these things.

Probably because there weren't so many sick freaks running around, that ALSO makes me angry.


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: odinn7 on March 09, 2008, 11:40:05 AM
Good news Eye...what a relief that must be to you.


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: JJ80 on March 27, 2008, 02:41:03 PM
Well said Darksider, 'Time murderers' are probably my pet hate. Sometimes I think that they suffer from a subconscious laziness that makes them attempt to do everything they can to delay having to do anything useful. Bus passengers are especially guilty of this in my experience!


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Killer Bees on March 27, 2008, 06:58:15 PM
That's wonderful news, Eyesore.  At last you can breathe easy.  Go out and have a beer or six to celebrate your good fortune!   :cheers:


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: Mr. DS on March 29, 2008, 10:41:59 AM
Eyesore...best to you and your family and I'm happy to hear the good news. :cheers:


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: redsneaker on April 05, 2008, 11:08:21 PM
I know, inconceivable isn't it? Reusing syringes and cleaning solution. The labs are overwhelmed right now due to the influx of people getting these tests. They told me it would be 5 to 10 days before I get my results. There were old people and Mom's with kids in there getting tested. All of this because some millionaires had to save some money.

 This story broke on Thursday, and I got tested yesterday. I've been numb until this afternoon. I still can't quite grasp why this should ever happen.


 I'm just surfing around for distraction purposes now, on auto-pilot I guess.
I hear ya. Glad you are both ok. I am here in Vegas also, and my mother in law and a couple people I work with are going through the same thing. Crazy the amount of people this effected. Also there is nothing they will pay that will equal the pain it has caused.


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: redsneaker on April 05, 2008, 11:10:38 PM
Hardcore Religious People. The ones that look at me odd when I say my kid plays video games or watches Harry Potter movies. The ones that drag small children from door to door teaching them that this life is just crap you have to deal with it until God comes down and burns the place up or you die and go to the better place.... How is that for messin up a kids mind. My religion is Karma. That is my fairy tale and I am stickin to it.


Title: Re: What makes you angry?
Post by: BeyondTheGrave on April 06, 2008, 11:19:19 PM
I too get p**sed at Hardcore Religious People myself. I have met alot in my life and they will preach and such but if someones in need they won't even look in your direction.

Other thing is that I have been noticing recently people who have jobs that just don't do it. Its natural to complain about your job or maybe having a bad day and such but I never seen people that if they work at a store and ask them a question its like they are doing you a favor by answering you or helping. ITS YOUR JOB  :hatred: :teddyr: