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Title: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: zombie no.one on June 12, 2008, 05:54:03 PM
OMG...thank god I only bought this DVD second hand for cheap....awful film. never seen a worse sequel in my life and that's saying something...might need a few days to recover from this abomination.

anyone seen it, care to agree with me...or am I missing something, lol


Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: Menard on June 12, 2008, 06:01:18 PM
I absolutely agree with you that this is pretty awful.

Of course, have you seen part 4?

The third part is, IMO, the best of the sequels. Of course, if someone is a dimwitted gore freak they probably love this part 2.

Let's not even mention that horrible remake.


Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: zombie no.one on June 12, 2008, 06:19:17 PM
yeah I saw the remake and got fairly bored, but didn't think it was offensively bad, tbh

not seen Part 4...I'll stick it low down on my list - in case of emergency  :smile:.


Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: indianasmith on June 12, 2008, 07:20:22 PM
Am I the only one that liked the remake?? :question:


Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: Mr_Vindictive on June 12, 2008, 07:52:02 PM
Not gonna lie to you, I feel that the second TCM is by far the best of them all.  It didn't take itself seriously, didn't care what kind of impact the original made and went for a completely different look and feel.

That scene with Hopper finding the guts in the walls and screaming "IT'S COMING DOWN!" before ripping through the walls just gets me every time.  This film is classic in every sense of the word and gets way too much hate.  I honestly can't recommend it enough!


Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: Torgo on June 12, 2008, 07:58:23 PM
Not gonna lie to you, I feel that the second TCM is by far the best of them all.  It didn't take itself seriously, didn't care what kind of impact the original made and went for a completely different look and feel.

That scene with Hopper finding the guts in the walls and screaming "IT'S COMING DOWN!" before ripping through the walls just gets me every time.  This film is classic in every sense of the word and gets way too much hate.  I honestly can't recommend it enough!

I couldn't agree with you more.  I think that people didn't like the 2nd one when it originally came out due to the fact that they weren't expecting it to be so damn funny.

"Look what you did to my plate you dog dick!"    :thumbup:


Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: Menard on June 12, 2008, 08:06:03 PM
Not gonna lie to you, I feel that the second TCM is by far the best of them all.  It didn't take itself seriously, didn't care what kind of impact the original made and went for a completely different look and feel.

That scene with Hopper finding the guts in the walls and screaming "IT'S COMING DOWN!" before ripping through the walls just gets me every time.  This film is classic in every sense of the word and gets way too much hate.  I honestly can't recommend it enough!

I couldn't agree with you more.  I think that people didn't like the 2nd one when it originally came out due to the fact that they weren't expecting it to be so damn funny.

"Look what you did to my plate you dog dick!"    :thumbup:

I'm certain that somewhere on this board there is a playroom for the 5 year olds.


Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: Torgo on June 12, 2008, 08:13:39 PM
I'm certain that somewhere on this board there is a playroom for the 5 year olds.

I'm 33 actually. So you didn't like the movie and others did and found it funny. No loss either way.  It's just a movie.


Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: zombie no.one on June 12, 2008, 09:06:12 PM
was it really 'intentionally' funny? in that case they didn't quite make it intentional enough tbh...I mean why reduce the original to a farce anyway. why do that to an audience, who is clearly expecting something more along the lines of the original, which the trailer definitely makes it look like...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHI3UV-yPTI

scary trailer...and in no way indicative of the film. sorry Im not convinced guys!


Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: Torgo on June 12, 2008, 09:19:34 PM
This movie was marketed horribly.  It should've been marketed as more of a black comedy satire of the original instead of the scary angle they took with it like Depressed Crack Addict stated.


Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: SynapticBoomstick on June 12, 2008, 11:49:56 PM
I personally loved Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2's heaping helping of cheese :bouncegiggle: Chop-Top lighting the hanger up and scratching his head with it weirded me out when I first saw it since i didn't know about the plate and all I could think was, "How are you still showing this guy around? It's a bad idea!" The dance between Leatherface and Vantia (decked out in someone else's face :buggedout: ! ) still strikes me as one of the more unusual things that my bad movie adventures have led me to.


Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: Mr_Vindictive on June 13, 2008, 07:28:39 AM
I believe your opinion of TCM 2 depends on your opinion of the original.  I dislike the original, pure and simple.  It's not really that good of a film in my opinion.  The sequel was a big surprise just because of how different it was from the original.  It's absolutely hilarious and I think that Tobe Hooper knew EXACTLY what he was doing when he made this film.

Could it be that he was p**sed after being pigeonholed as a horror director, always being known of as that guy that made TCM?  Maybe he wanted to take the p**s out of his own film and decided to make a satire.


Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: HappyGilmore on June 13, 2008, 08:23:23 AM
Am I the only one that liked the remake?? :question:
No, I quite liked it myself.  Even liked the prequel sequel that they made after that.  Probably better than the remake.

Not gonna lie to you, I feel that the second TCM is by far the best of them all.  It didn't take itself seriously, didn't care what kind of impact the original made and went for a completely different look and feel.

That scene with Hopper finding the guts in the walls and screaming "IT'S COMING DOWN!" before ripping through the walls just gets me every time.  This film is classic in every sense of the word and gets way too much hate.  I honestly can't recommend it enough!
2 was great, and I agree with you.  Plus I like that Primus sampled Chop Top in a song. :smile:

Of the films, TCM 4 starring Renee Zellwegger and Matthew McChaughahey (spelling?) was just downright an abomination.


Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: zombie no.one on June 13, 2008, 12:10:31 PM
ok, well I was wrong , seems quite a few of you like this film. that's fair enough, this is 'bad movies'... but not to keep going on about it but for me TCM2 fell into the category of Bad Bad - as opposed to Good Bad, i.e something like Wraith, to keep it in the vaguely horror/comedy genre...


Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: Menard on June 13, 2008, 05:43:36 PM
ok, well I was wrong , seems quite a few of you like this film. that's fair enough, this is 'bad movies'... but not to keep going on about it but for me TCM2 fell into the category of Bad Bad - as opposed to Good Bad, i.e something like Wraith, to keep it in the vaguely horror/comedy genre...

Liking this piece of s**t movie is just part of the idiot faction of this board. They're relatively harmless, but you really got to wonder what kind of drugs they did early in life.


Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: Torgo on June 13, 2008, 05:53:12 PM
Liking this piece of s**t movie is just part of the idiot faction of this board. They're relatively harmless, but you really got to wonder what kind of drugs they did early in life.

See, I thought this type of behavior didn't exist on these forums. Don't go attacking people because their opinion doesn't jive with yours.  If you would thoughtfully and respectively say what you don't like about the film, then I'll listen to you.

Otherwise, if you're going to attack people on here, then just don't bother posting at all IMO.



Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: Menard on June 13, 2008, 05:56:14 PM
Liking this piece of s**t movie is just part of the idiot faction of this board. They're relatively harmless, but you really got to wonder what kind of drugs they did early in life.

([url]http://www.peoriadefense.com/photo_host/TheJessicaAlbaExperiment_A970/DavidHasselhoffsaysyousuck.jpg[/url])



 :teddyr: :thumbup:


Now that's the first intelligent thing you have said in this thread.


Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: Torgo on June 13, 2008, 05:58:58 PM
Now that's the first intelligent thing you have said in this thread.

I actually updated my original post instead of stooping to someone else's level, re-read what I said and re-think what you're doing here in these forums attacking people's opinions.


Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: Menard on June 13, 2008, 06:20:39 PM
Liking this piece of s**t movie is just part of the idiot faction of this board. They're relatively harmless, but you really got to wonder what kind of drugs they did early in life.

See, I thought this type of behavior didn't exist on these forums. Don't go attacking people because their opinion doesn't jive with yours.  If you would thoughtfully and respectively say what you don't like about the film, then I'll listen to you.

Otherwise, if you're going to attack people on here, then just don't bother posting at all IMO.



And could you kindly point out where I have attacked someone on here?

I have stated my opinion (paraphrased here) that this movie is the kind of crap that only a drug crazed moron could like.

Obviously there is some tongue in cheek there.

I am not allowed to state an opinion?

I do believe you are taking that a little too personally.

If my sarcastic remark in any way hit a little too close to home, then that was inconsiderate of me to make it and I apologize for that. I don't apologize for not liking this movie.


Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: Torgo on June 13, 2008, 07:47:19 PM
Yes, when you type a post that says 
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"Liking this piece of s**t movie is just part of the idiot faction of this board. They're relatively harmless, but you really got to wonder what kind of drugs they did early in life.
than  yes, you are attacking people on this forum who do like this flick.

Simply saying that you don't like the movie and explaining the reasons why is fine IMO, but taking it to this level is just juvenile and unnecessary.

Really makes me wonder why you even started posting here again Menard with comments like that.   If you don't like these forums, than just don't post here. Simple enough, yes?


Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: Menard on June 13, 2008, 08:16:46 PM
Yes, when you type a post that says 
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"Liking this piece of s**t movie is just part of the idiot faction of this board. They're relatively harmless, but you really got to wonder what kind of drugs they did early in life.
than  yes, you are attacking people on this forum who do like this flick.

Simply saying that you don't like the movie and explaining the reasons why is fine IMO, but taking it to this level is just juvenile and unnecessary.

Really makes me wonder why you even started posting here again Menard with comments like that.   If you don't like these forums, than just don't post here. Simple enough, yes?

Are you going to start decreeing rules for us when you don't like what we say?

I don't like this film...

...big deal.

It shouldn't make any difference in your day whether I like this film or not.


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Liking this piece of s**t movie is just part of the idiot faction of this board. They're relatively harmless, but you really got to wonder what kind of drugs they did early in life.

That's what I said simple and plain.

Because I said that I'm attacking people on this board and should not post here?

Of course, that's your opinion (and let me state that I have paraphrased that; please correct me if you feel I misinterpreted it); not only do you have a right to it, I don't feel that it is attacking me.


Simply saying that you don't like the movie and explaining the reasons why is fine IMO, but taking it to this level is just juvenile and unnecessary.

Really makes me wonder why you even started posting here again Menard with comments like that.   If you don't like these forums, than just don't post here. Simple enough, yes?

Are these rules of your's for the forum in general, or just me?


BTW, I still think the David Hasselhoff  picture was funny. :thumbup:


Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: Torgo on June 13, 2008, 08:20:16 PM
I'm just stating how I felt about your post. These aren't my rules. It's just called being considerate to others which I felt that your post lacked thoroughly.  I viewed it as an attack on people who did like the movie.  This was the type of post that you would see like on Rotten Tomatoes forums, not here. 

You were annoyed enough to leave Badmovies.org, but yet your even more annoyned now that you're back on here?   I don't get it.


Anyway,  I'm through discussing this. Have a most wonderful evening.


Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: Torgo on June 13, 2008, 08:24:46 PM
I believe your opinion of TCM 2 depends on your opinion of the original.  I dislike the original, pure and simple.  It's not really that good of a film in my opinion.  The sequel was a big surprise just because of how different it was from the original.  It's absolutely hilarious and I think that Tobe Hooper knew EXACTLY what he was doing when he made this film.

I actually know quite a few people who didn't like the original TCM but liked the sequel.  I like both, but I've always felt the the sequel was much more in line with my sensibilities in terms of the ultra black humor in it and the over-the-top performances.  The movie wasn't meant to be taken seriously and I think that people are finally about 23 years after the fact starting more and more to have that opinion of the 2nd film.

I thought that the rest of the TCM movies after this were awful though I did enjoy R. Lee Ermey in the remake and the sequel to the remake. But that was about it for the 2 remake movies. 


Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: Torgo on June 13, 2008, 08:27:07 PM
2 was great, and I agree with you.  Plus I like that Primus sampled Chop Top in a song. :smile:

"Dog will hunt!" 

BTW, have you seen The Adventurs of the Kung Fu Rascals in which Les Claypool has a starring role as the evil sherrif? I think it's from the same director that did The Guyver.  It's actually a fairly entertaining film, and not just because I'm a huge Primus fan.


Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: Menard on June 13, 2008, 08:37:12 PM
You were annoyed enough to leave Badmovies.org, but yet your even more annoyned now that you're back on here?   I don't get it.

I realize that far from everyone read my response to Andrew as to why I left at the time. I can certainly understand that, but I'm not drudging it up again. I am really quite unappreciative about someone referring to what went on in my life as just an annoyance.

Hey, dude, we're just talking about a movie here. You may like this film, you may feel that I'm the biggest a$$hole to have walked the planet (there is a good chance the latter part is true whether you feel that way or not), but I'm sorry if I somehow made you feel that you had to take a cheapshot at me like that.



Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: Andrew on June 13, 2008, 08:45:00 PM
ok, well I was wrong , seems quite a few of you like this film. that's fair enough, this is 'bad movies'... but not to keep going on about it but for me TCM2 fell into the category of Bad Bad - as opposed to Good Bad, i.e something like Wraith, to keep it in the vaguely horror/comedy genre...

Liking this piece of s**t movie is just part of the idiot faction of this board. They're relatively harmless, but you really got to wonder what kind of drugs they did early in life.

That will be quite enough of that.  Whether somebody likes a movie or not is a matter of personal preference, and an opinion.  For some people, the movie works - for others it does not.


Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: AnubisVonMojo on June 13, 2008, 09:04:24 PM
BTW, have you seen The Adventurs of the Kung Fu Rascals in which Les Claypool has a starring role as the evil sherrif? I think it's from the same director that did The Guyver.  It's actually a fairly entertaining film, and not just because I'm a huge Primus fan.

Sadly Torg, I found out that the guy in Kung-Fu Rascals isn't the same Les Claypool. I was sure of it myself and posted a YouTube video of one of the fight scenes, but finally managed to find one of the guys who worked on the movie who verified that it was indeed someone else. Funny too, cuz you'd think a name like "Les Claypool" wouldn't be so common...  :question:

It's still a fun little movie though.

As far as TCM2 goes, I group it in with over-the-top horror-comedies like Evil Dead II, Dead Alive, and Return of the Living Dead. Whether Tobe Hooper was spiteful of the original or he felt there was no point in trying to duplicate so he opted to go a completely different direction is beyond me, but I think it was a fun change. I can see how some people wouldn't like it as a stand alone movie and others expecting a "more of the same" sequel would feel cheated, but I've got fond childhood memories of watching it with my cousins when we were younger and never forgetting the "Incoming mail!" scene until finally finding the movie again years later in high school.



Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: Torgo on June 13, 2008, 09:06:43 PM
BTW, have you seen The Adventurs of the Kung Fu Rascals in which Les Claypool has a starring role as the evil sherrif? I think it's from the same director that did The Guyver.  It's actually a fairly entertaining film, and not just because I'm a huge Primus fan.

Sadly Torg, I found out that the guy in Kung-Fu Rascals isn't the same Les Claypool. I was sure of it myself and posted a YouTube video of one of the fight scenes, but finally managed to find one of the guys who worked on the movie who verified that it was indeed someone else. Funny too, cuz you'd think a name like "Les Claypool" wouldn't be so common...  :question:

It's still a fun little movie though.

It looks just like him IMO and they've got it listed for him on the IMDb as well. Guess I was wrong.  I know that there's a film composer who is named Les Claypool III that a lot people confuse as being the Les from Primus.



Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: AnubisVonMojo on June 13, 2008, 09:16:51 PM
It looks just like him IMO and they've got it listed for him on the IMDb as well. Guess I was wrong.  I know that there's a film composer who is named Les Claypool III that a lot people confuse as being the Les from Primus.

Yeah, there was this big back-and-forth debate on the YouTube video I'd posted between people who said it looked nothing like him and people who said it did look like him only with a fake nose. The guy in KFR is the composer (he also provided music for the movie) and the IMDB listing needs to be fixed.


Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: Torgo on June 13, 2008, 09:24:46 PM
It looks just like him IMO and they've got it listed for him on the IMDb as well. Guess I was wrong.  I know that there's a film composer who is named Les Claypool III that a lot people confuse as being the Les from Primus.


Yeah, there was this big back-and-forth debate on the YouTube video I'd posted between people who said it looked nothing like him and people who said it did look like him only with a fake nose. The guy in KFR is the composer (he also provided music for the movie) and the IMDB listing needs to be fixed.


Les has a rather pronounced nose and I didn't think that it looked like a fake nose in the movie.  Hmmmm, someone should post a question to Les about this in an interview to solve this mystery once and for all.

(http://www.ram.org/music/primus/pictures/leatherface.gif)



Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: Mofo Rising on June 13, 2008, 10:45:53 PM
I really like the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre. I also liked the Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2, but not as much as the original. However, this is not because of the severe change in tone. I enjoyed the gleeful insanity of the second movie, it just didn't really hit the right groove for me. As a goofy horror comedy, I really like it, but I can't bump it up to a great movie.

I do enjoy watching a movie that ends up being completely different from what I expected. The first time I saw Evil Dead 2, the sheer spectacle of the on-screen madness converted me to a bad movie fan for life (if I hadn't already been tending in that direction anyway).

I'd still recommend people check out TCM2, though. I have yet to see the third and fourth.


Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: Joe the Destroyer on June 14, 2008, 03:11:06 AM
Am I the only one that liked the remake?? :question:

No, I actually enjoyed it for what it was worth.

And I couldn't stand the second one. 


Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: HappyGilmore on June 14, 2008, 08:42:49 AM
2 was great, and I agree with you.  Plus I like that Primus sampled Chop Top in a song. :smile:

"Dog will hunt!" 

BTW, have you seen The Adventurs of the Kung Fu Rascals in which Les Claypool has a starring role as the evil sherrif? I think it's from the same director that did The Guyver.  It's actually a fairly entertaining film, and not just because I'm a huge Primus fan.
Haven't gotten to see that, yet.  I'm familiar with The Guyver, though.


Title: Re: TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 (1986)
Post by: Dr_Malavaqua on June 14, 2008, 03:49:36 PM
I'm one of those random bastards who saw TCM 2 before the first one, and I have to say I like it! I was somewhat younger than 14, I had never seen anything like it and the movie made a lasting impression on me(not to mention my mental state).
I like it because I think it's one of those movies that stick with you, there is so much sick sh*t going on throughout the ~100 mins that you just can't shake it off that easily, and the humour just makes it even more memorable. As mentioned I hadn't seen the first one, a fact I think added to the psycho-nightmare-feel of watching TCM 2 for the first time!
For example: the first minutes with what looked like a zombie(Leatherface & friend) on a car sawing the sh*t out of another motorist in full speed set to rock music...   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fG15TJZE04 
It made an impression... :tongueout:

Now having seen the first one, I can understand why people consider it to be the best. But TCM2 will always be the favourite for me!  :smile:  (I have not seen any of the remakes, but it would be fun someday.)

BTW: I have never done drugs..  :wink: