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Finally watched this one tonight (for the first time) -- my wife said I had to see it.

Her memory of it was pretty sketchy, and so she had forgotten the totality of what a suck-ass movie it is.
I felt about this movie the way I felt about Star Trek.. what was it, Nemesis?  The one that had them baja-ing in the captain's dune buggy early in the movie?   Gah, that was awful.  I watched it and said out loud (before shutting it off), "I reject this from the Star Trek canon."

Well, I reject the Temple o' Doom from the Indiana Jones canon.

Screaming annoying dark-at-the-roots blonde b*tch, I was so rooting that someone would beam her in the face and disable her ability to scream incessantly.  Badly written and fairly aimless script, uninspiring story, lack of chemistry among the characters, lots of gratuitously disgusting stuff that lacked humor to it (gore is cool by me, but it has to have some humor or punch to it).     Could have put a video of Count Roogan at the end of that movie, grinning out from the screen, saying, "I've just sucked out two hours of your life."

Bleh, bleh, bleh, bleh, bleh.

You're too harsh Zap.
This movie kicked ass!

Granted, I was 10 years old when I saw it back in 1984 so my perspective on it is very different from yours.

I rate this the 2nd best Indiana flick that I've seen.
(haven't seen "Crystal Skull" yet)

Without question the worst movie ever made - bar none.  Ol' Ed Wood's got nothing on this turkey.

I was one of those who had the misfortune of experiencing this during its dismal original release in 1984.  I recall coaxing a group of friends to see - and they were ready to kill me after the credits rolled for stealing two hours of their life.  Kate Capshaw...'short round'...a really dumb opening sequence...brain-dead Indy stunts...I don't know what fanboy Spielberg/Lucas was trying to fool in '84, but I saw right through this one.  And please note neither filmmaker has done as well since their previous works in the '70s and very early '80s, IMO.

The toughest thing was the sheer betrayal of this film in comparison to the brilliant original.  I truly felt abused and violated.  I'm starting to wonder if the mishap on Twilight Zone - The Movie (1983) had an ill effect on Spielberg's career as it did Landis's.  He's never been the same filmmaker since his 1982 film E.T., which IMO was his last good movie.

See, I had this exact same discussion with a few people over the weekend.  I love the Indiana Jones films but I really do not like Temple Of Doom.  Raiders was absolutely perfect and then Spielberg follows up with this.  I dislike Shortround as a character, Willie is annoying as hell, and the film just doesn't really work.  There are some memorable lines and scenes but overall, I dislike it. 

Everyone that I have talked to thinks I'm absolutely crazy for having this opinion.  I'm glad I'm not the only one.  Out of all of the films, Crystal Skull included, Temple Of Doom ranks as the lowest of the films in my opinion.

Thank you!  I thought I was the only one who didn't care for ToD.  Yay!
My kids (10 and 13 - cannot speak for the 18 y.o.) think it is fun.  'Nuff said.

I thought it was a fun movie.  Oh, it had a pile of problems, ranging from the annoying kid to a lot of silly jump scares that reminded me of a ride at Disneyland, overblown CGI, etc.  But I thought the chemistry between Harrison Ford and Kate Capshaw was great and overall it was a fun ride.

I disagree, I liked this movie and Short Round is hilarious, Willie's a real b!@#$ though.

I can't say that I hate this movie, but I do feel it is the weakest of the four. In structure it differs from the others and I feel Spielberg and Lucas went over the top with the action sequences, making them darn near ludicrous in spots.

With all due respect I'm awfully shocked as well to the negative reaction some people are having to this film.  Granted I can see where certain elements (chattering Oriental kid, screaming blonde who can't act, etc) can get annoying.  Still the film had some awesome moments. 

I would rate this one #3 out of the bunch, haven't seen Crystal Skull yet, so this one could be #4. It's not a bad film, has a lot of good moments, it's just one of the longest 2 hour movies I've sat through.
I can't really put my finger on why though, I have this one in a boxed set, if I have some free time today I think I'll watch it again and see if it's as long as I remember, and try to figure out why.

I don't think it is that bad, but I do agree it is far and away the weakest of the four.

However, I must disagree with the idea that Spielberg hasn't made a good movie since E.T.  I mean, what about AMISTAD?? SAVING PRIVATE RYAN?? or even JURASSIC PARK?  All of those are excellent films - of course, on different levels.  I still can't watch the end of PRIVATE RYAN without tearing up.

I'm equally shocked by the positive reactions of some to this, er, film.

But for the matter of it being a matter of taste, I think the, er, film is completely indefensible.

No chemistry between lead and screaming supporting, er, actress.   None.     Tone of the film is completely off -- no pulpy fun, four-color comic feel to it -- it's dark, with arbitrarily gross stuff thrown in to try to make us believe that the movie means business.     Only one applaudable moment (the moment the elephant tosses Willie into the water).   Action scenes uninspiring, even for their day.   

Granted, it's not a bad movie in the sense of what we really call BAD movies here.  But compared to the other films in the series, pardon my bluntness and Pulp Fiction reference, "ain't no F***ing ballpark!"   

And Ash, with all due respect -- to a ten year old, the Care Bears movie, episodes of CHiPS, Boobaa, and Lazytown "kick ass," too.

Yeah, I really enjoyed this movie, but I think that it's the worst Indiana Jones movie.. okay, it's tied with Crystal Skull, but I do enjoy watching it from time to time.

TOD wasn't up to the first movie but it wasn't really that bad, at least in comparison to most of the stuff I watch.

You don't watch enough movies then.  ToD may be the low point of the Indy series but it's stilly really darn good compared to a lot out there.

But I'm still trying to figure our Alien Dead (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080346/), from last week, which was pretty non-sensical even by Fred Olen Ray standards

Count me with the "surprised at the negative reaction" crowd.  As a kid when it came out in theaters I didn't think it lived up to the original (what were the chances of that happening?), but I didn't think it "sucked" or feel "violated" (!).  I saw it again as a young adult (15 years ago) and felt the same way. I thought the stunts were exciting, though over-the-top, and I thought the scene where Indy calmly looks down at his holster to shoot the Sihk on the bridge, only to notice his revolver's missing, was a minor classic.  In my memory I give it 3 out of 5 stars; I think I'll leave the movie there, in case when I see it again I discover that Zap is right.

movie dosnt deserve the hate i rate the movies this way (havent seen kotcs)
raiders
temple
last
i dont like last as much because it felt like raiders 2.0 i mean temple has so many memroble
parts its hard to count

Personally I think it is the weakest of the bunch, the tone is different and dark. Kate Capshaw impressed the director at least (she's been married to Spielberg for quite a while now).

What I don't get is people putting so much emotional energy in hating something as silly as a movie.  I love movies, but in the end they're just entertainment and I've got better things to direct my energy at.
 
You know, you like what you like and if others don't get it, then so what! It's nothing worth causing a stir about.

I've always thought Temple of Doom was the next best film after Raiders.

I rate them in this order:

Raiders
Doom
Crystal Skull
Last Crusade

I don't know what it is, but I've never really cared for Last Crusade.
It always seemed like a generic retread of Raiders to me.   :lookingup:

I didn't care for Last Crusade either.  Seemed like they were trying way too hard to be funny and cute. 

The only part about Last Crusade I really disliked was how they treated Brody.  In the first movie, he is serious and competent.  They turned him into too much comic relief in the third

I have to agree with you completely, Zap (we are like brothers under the skin; except for that vagina thing you have (http://5g8.net/smileys/mockery-022.gif)).

I have seen this once; seriously wished I hadn't.

Unlike Raiders, which was just simply awesome, this lacked (oh...what's that called...) plot, pacing, sympathetic characters (plenty of pathetic characters, though), or much of anything to actually enjoy.

Raiders quite literally set cinema on fire and delivered a non-epic film that was truly more than epic in its presentation. It stayed true to its roots of the pulp character, but added a pounding pace, laugh out loud humor, bad guys you truly want to see die, and blazing action. The only thing blazing in Temple was some guy being lowered into a lava pit.

It's not a heroic film, it's a mean spirited film that uses sideshow grotesqueries in place of action, plot, and heroics.

Though I didn't care for this at all, it is still Indiana Jones, and regardless, some will like it because of that. I would have liked to see better, but at least it does have Indy.

I did like Last Crusade much more and felt it was on par with Raiders. Nothing, however, is going to equal Raiders; it was too much fun for one movie to provide, and it did. :teddyr:

Well, as for me, at least now I know who the Temple apologists are... I'm watching you all, too.


(yes, it is an eye, and not, as Menard contends, a flaming vagina.)

Glad to find agreement from ya, Menard... I can easily understand why people like "Manos" but I can't at all get how someone liked the subject of this thread.

Yea, that movie was a turd IMO, I kinda liked Shortround, , but he didn't fit the movie very well.

You can use Summer's Eve or something similar to take care of that. :hot:

ZARDOZ HAS SPOKEN!!!

Count me in the crowd that likes ToD.  When I run into it while channel surfing I always stop for a little while.  Short Round rules!