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Title: THE FOG (1980) ~ DUMB FILM
Post by: Allhallowsday on June 20, 2008, 09:45:40 PM
Okay, this is merely an exorcise (:wink:).  I watched THE FOG last night for the first time in... decades.  It's so dumb!!  I saw it new in the theatre and remember it well, but not really liking it.  My complaint was, and remains, that these vicious ghosts can't really blame these pseudo- descendants... but, now that I've looked at the thing again, I'm thinking: The number six was intended to figure prominently, but it doesn't... oh yes, three fishermen (I forgot about the  3  chillingly scratched into linoleum by a person who has absolutely no business walking around...) and the Sheriff from HALLOWEEN as #4 (CHARLES CYPHERS) and poor old innocent Mrs. Kobritz (REGINA WALDON ~ thank you IMDB  :teddyr:) is #5 and #6 is... ain't that gold cross heavy???  So, they were going to steal the gold, but made a giant crucifix and hid it in a wall and forgot about it instead...??  Oh yeh!  That makes sense.  JANET LEIGH is quite spry pulling carved blocks of stone out of church walls (and she was born in 1927, you do the math.) 

How does TOM ATKINS know his friend's lungs are full of seawater...?  A little later the medical examiner confirms TOM ATKINS findings...  :drink:  Well, he does talk about drinking a lot, but they "never got so sh!t-faced that they couldn't return to shore!"  And yes, JAMIE LEE CURTIS is in here as pappy TOM ATKINS' pickup... lucky ol' TOM!!

ADRIENNE BARBEAU is kind of cool and jazzy on the radio (but plays no really interesting records) interacts with almost nobody (maybe has to do with her reputation on-set)  "...I can't leave... Andy, I hope you understand!!"  Believes there's a disaster happening (and is right) but only because she had a post hallucinogenic fantasy (dropped too much acid in her youth?  Hey!  ADRIENNE was born in 1945...) about a saltwater bleeding board (a real special antique, I might add) causing a fire that... didn't happen...?  And heard #4 gurgle on the telephone... !!  "Stay away from the fog... there's something in the fog!!  Andy!  My son is trapped!!  Please help!  I can't leave!  I have to stay on the radio or there's no movie at all...!!" 
As always, she's right:  STAY AWAY FROM THE FOG.  
 
There is a lot about this movie I like.  Some good atmosphere.  I love the cast, particularly those reunited from HALLOWEENHAL HOLBROOK does a very good job with what he's given (it ain't much).  I like some of the music; I really like a lot of the shots, views, and settings... how cool is that lighthouse / radio station??? 
Plus ADRIENNE in there on the radio...!   :bouncegiggle:  But, I don't like the typical JOHN CARPENTER quick cut from day to night.  The principals put the story t-o-g-e-t-h-e-r right quick for us viewers, but it is so pathetically contrived!  It all seems a bit rushed.  DUMB FILM!  It's bad... maybe in a good way.   :tongueout:


Title: Re: THE FOG (1980) ~ Dumb film
Post by: AnubisVonMojo on June 20, 2008, 09:51:25 PM
Yeah, I can't agree with ya more on (no, I didn't say "moron"!) this one AHD. I know every crappy movie has its audience, but it's movies like this that make me question if John Carpenter really is as good as everyone gives him credit for. Blargh. What boggles the mind more so is that someone actually felt the need to do a remake...  :thumbdown:


Title: Re: THE FOG (1980) ~ Dumb film
Post by: Doc Daneeka on June 20, 2008, 10:15:18 PM
I don't really have a strong opinion on this film, I personally enjoyed it but I don't really appreciate it as I'm sure some people do. I agree on some points... The victims seemed taken at random, the three killed initially took some suspense off the events of final night, as well as created a few plot holes (Who would have known three of the descendents would all end up working together in the same low-class job??), including the violation of the old "one night for revenge" cliche. More holes arise in the fact that a good deal more than six people, including Ms. Stevie Wayne, were menaced; Was everyone in the town related? The final scare was predictable and unnecessary, basically they could have just offered the man up for the kill... stuff like that makes entire movies seem pointless...

However, on the good side the film was skillfully directed and, as you said, atmospheric, not to mention very well-scored, as is the norm with Carpenter. Many scenes were intense, even when wondering why a certain person was being chased :wink:. The monsters were brilliantly executed in the way that they were usually completely shrouded in their atmosphere, and when they were visible enough to catch an arm, face, etc., the makeup/costuming was great. I sort of agree with the "can't blame descendants" part, but then such revenges are appropriate when the original victims were just as innocent. Still, wouldn't it be cosmically smarter to seek revenge when the original offenders are still alive and can see their innocent kin being killed?

All in all when taking it as a "good movie", it fails on a few levels. However, when viewing as a late-nite popcorn flick, it's a great way to pass the time. I've viewed it quite a few times often very late a night or early in the morning, and I find it's easy to get caught up in the movie's atmosphere.


Title: Re: THE FOG (1980) ~ Dumb film
Post by: Menard on June 20, 2008, 10:18:33 PM
I actually like this film.

I've only seen it twice, though; once when it was released and once on video. Maybe that has something to do with it.

Fun movie; at some point, though, I gave up trying to make sense of it and just watched it.

It's filled with as many plot holes as Charles Cyphers is with bullet holes in Assault on Precinct 13.

Is this a repertory theatre group or what? It even has Napoleon Bonaparte....er....Napoleon Dynamite...er....whatever the hell his name is.

For what it lacks in a plot, it makes up for it in atmosphere and pacing. I find it a fun movie for Halloween.

Hey, that's an idea; maybe John Carpenter should do a Halloween....uh...movie....

....uh....nevermind.

 :tongueout:


Title: Re: THE FOG (1980) ~ Dumb film
Post by: Doc Daneeka on June 20, 2008, 10:32:11 PM
Is this a repertory theatre group or what? It even has Napoleon Bonaparte....er....Napoleon Dynamite...er....whatever the hell his name is.
Wilson, Wilson! Not quite as hard as the other two :tongueout:. He plays Dr. Phibes :smile:


Title: Re: THE FOG (1980) ~ Dumb film
Post by: Torgo on June 20, 2008, 10:37:15 PM
I've always liked The Fog, but I can understand someone having big problems with it.

It's pretty well known that John Carpenter hated the 1st cut of the movie and they had to go back and re-shoot about 30% of the movie in addition to adding more scenes in the form of added violence and scares.

But warts and all, I find it a lot of fun.


Title: Re: THE FOG (1980) ~ Dumb film
Post by: akiratubo on June 21, 2008, 12:47:49 AM
I like "The Fog", and I usually don't like movies that make no sense.


Title: Re: THE FOG (1980) ~ Dumb film
Post by: Allhallowsday on June 21, 2008, 01:25:50 AM
Yeah, I can't agree with ya more on (no, I didn't say "moron"!) this one AHD. I know every crappy movie has its audience, but it's movies like this that make me question if John Carpenter really is as good as everyone gives him credit for. Blargh. What boggles the mind more so is that someone actually felt the need to do a remake...  :thumbdown:
I felt the same way about the remake, which I've not seen, but I will say that it occurred to me that somebody might fix the script problems of the first film and capture the atmosphere that CARPENTER created.   :thumbup: karma


Title: Re: THE FOG (1980) ~ Dumb film
Post by: Neville on June 21, 2008, 06:11:51 AM
I like this movie a lot. True, the whole thing doesn't make much sense (who the Hell threw that stone at the car?!) and it's slow paced for today's standards (specially that scene of Barbeau walking to the lighthouse), but the atmosphere is amazingly well done, and the supernatural scenes are very well executed.

I think it' one of Carpenter's best films, really.


Title: Re: THE FOG (1980) ~ Dumb film
Post by: Jack on June 21, 2008, 06:43:47 AM
I really liked the atmosphere, but I'm afraid I've just seen it one too many times.  The atmosphere kind of fades away and I'm left noticing all the plot holes and other warts.  Still, I'll probably pull it out again around Halloween.


Title: Re: THE FOG (1980) ~ Dumb film
Post by: AnubisVonMojo on June 21, 2008, 08:08:23 AM
I really liked the atmosphere, but I'm afraid I've just seen it one too many times.  The atmosphere kind of fades away and I'm left noticing all the plot holes and other warts.  Still, I'll probably pull it out again around Halloween.

If I didn't know you were talking about a movie... uh... I like to pull it out every... errr... you know what, forget I said anything.  :teddyr:


Title: Re: THE FOG (1980) ~ Dumb film
Post by: Jack on June 21, 2008, 12:12:39 PM
I really liked the atmosphere, but I'm afraid I've just seen it one too many times.  The atmosphere kind of fades away and I'm left noticing all the plot holes and other warts.  Still, I'll probably pull it out again around Halloween.

If I didn't know you were talking about a movie... uh... I like to pull it out every... errr... you know what, forget I said anything.  :teddyr:

Yeah, sometimes I say stuff that...just doesn't quite sound right. 


Title: Re: THE FOG (1980) ~ DUMB FILM
Post by: Allhallowsday on July 14, 2015, 07:36:54 PM
STAY AWAY FROM THE FOG...!!!  JANET LEIGH as Kathy Williams...

http://youtu.be/nOZwnivtLbc (http://youtu.be/nOZwnivtLbc)  

Between midnight and 1...  :lookingup:  


ADRIENNE BARBEAU is Stevie Wayne... :smile: aghhreebahaaahhahhhrr  :lookingup:  :bouncegiggle:  :buggedout:


Title: Re: THE FOG (1980) ~ DUMB FILM
Post by: retrorussell on July 14, 2015, 09:17:43 PM
My brother seems to kiss the ground John Carpenter walks on.. and I don't get the love.  He's had some successes (like Halloween, Assault on Precinct 13, and The Fog was decent IMHO) but just as many misses-- and Ghosts of Mars, Vampires and Prince of Darkness were some of the worst POS's I'd ever seen.


Title: Re: THE FOG (1980) ~ DUMB FILM
Post by: indianasmith on July 14, 2015, 11:46:17 PM
A little thread necromancy, anyone? :teddyr:

No opinion on this film - I've never seen it, actually.

But whatever happened to old Anubis von Mojo?

I used to really enjoy his posts.


Title: Re: THE FOG (1980) ~ DUMB FILM
Post by: Allhallowsday on July 14, 2015, 11:56:02 PM
A little thread necromancy, anyone? :teddyr:

No opinion on this film - I've never seen it, actually.

But whatever happened to old Anubis von Mojo?

I used to really enjoy his posts.
If you don't pay for it, you should look at the thing.  Z'alright. 
I was talking with my friend about THE FOG... (which predates our meeting, but both of us being nerds, we of course both saw this dumb film in a theater when it was new).  It's my own thread necromancy... 

Did anyone mention JANET LEIGH as Kathy Williams... ???   :question:  :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: THE FOG (1980) ~ DUMB FILM
Post by: voltron on July 15, 2015, 05:08:23 AM
I dug it (the original). Nice creepy atmosphere.


Title: Re: THE FOG (1980) ~ DUMB FILM
Post by: Trevor on July 15, 2015, 07:30:13 AM
But whatever happened to old Anubis von Mojo?

I used to really enjoy his posts.

No idea: even his tombofanubis website isn't up anymore.  :question:


Title: Re: THE FOG (1980) ~ DUMB FILM
Post by: Newt on July 15, 2015, 07:46:06 AM
But whatever happened to old Anubis von Mojo?

I used to really enjoy his posts.


No idea: even his tombofanubis website isn't up anymore.  :question:


He appears to be active on twitter?   https://twitter.com/thetombofanubis (https://twitter.com/thetombofanubis)

eta: and I got on his site from there - http://thetombofanubis.com/ (http://thetombofanubis.com/)


Title: Re: THE FOG (1980) ~ DUMB FILM
Post by: Trevor on July 15, 2015, 08:17:59 AM
But whatever happened to old Anubis von Mojo?

I used to really enjoy his posts.


No idea: even his tombofanubis website isn't up anymore.  :question:


He appears to be active on twitter?   [url]https://twitter.com/thetombofanubis[/url] ([url]https://twitter.com/thetombofanubis[/url])

eta: and I got on his site from there - [url]http://thetombofanubis.com/[/url] ([url]http://thetombofanubis.com/[/url])


Thanks, Sister Newt: sent him a message and there is a great review of The Babadook there.  :smile:


Title: Re: THE FOG (1980) ~ DUMB FILM
Post by: indianasmith on July 15, 2015, 10:58:52 AM
Thanks Newt!


Title: Re: THE FOG (1980) ~ DUMB FILM
Post by: Allhallowsday on August 12, 2015, 07:04:41 PM
JANET LEIGH as Kathy Williams...

http://youtu.be/nOZwnivtLbc (http://youtu.be/nOZwnivtLbc)  

Between midnight and 1...  :lookingup:  STAY AWAY FROM THE FOG...!!!


JANET LEIGH as Kathy Williams...
JANET LEIGH as Kathy Williams...
JANET LEIGH as Kathy Williams...  

 :bouncegiggle:   :bouncegiggle:     :bouncegiggle:

HAL HOLBROOK as Father Malone...  Between midnight and 1...  :lookingup:


Title: Re: THE FOG (1980) ~ DUMB FILM
Post by: Allhallowsday on August 19, 2015, 10:26:30 PM
JANET LEIGH as Kathy Williams...
...Between midnight and 1...  :lookingup:  STAY AWAY FROM THE FOG...!!!
JANET LEIGH as Kathy Williams...
JANET LEIGH as Kathy Williams...
JANET LEIGH as Kathy Williams...  

 :bouncegiggle:   :bouncegiggle:     :bouncegiggle:

HAL HOLBROOK as Father Malone...  Between midnight and 1...  :lookingup:

JOHN CARPENTER's THE FOG... "this is KAB Antonio Bay...Stevie Wayne here... and keep a watch out for that fog bank heading in from the east... " 
100 years ago between midnight and 1...

right outside my door by now...


Title: Re: THE FOG (1980) ~ DUMB FILM
Post by: JaseSF on August 30, 2015, 07:06:16 PM
Agree with Voltron...this movie is all about the creepy unsettling atmosphere....I loved it. It's part a mystery too which is usually a plus for me.


Title: Re: THE FOG (1980) ~ DUMB FILM
Post by: ulthar on August 30, 2015, 07:28:23 PM
I like Carpenter's THE FOG...the atmosphere, a good old fashioned ghost story (not some freaked out demon on steriods that tries to top the LAST monster in a monster movie) and, well...Dean Cundy's lighting was amazing.  It's a beautifully shot film.

So, plot holes, shmot holes.  Don't care.  Not one iota.

And besides, how many on-camera credits do we have for Rob Bottin, anyway?  According to IMDB, three. HUMANOIDS FROM THE DEEP is uncredited, so "really" two.  And ROCK AND ROLL HIGH SCHOOL had him dressed up as a mouse.  No; his Blake in THE FOG is the only "official," in-movie, in-character "acting" credit that is Rob himself.

(That is, official as defined by me.   :twirl:  )


Title: Re: THE FOG (1980) ~ DUMB FILM
Post by: Trevor on August 31, 2015, 01:15:25 AM
I like Carpenter's THE FOG...the atmosphere, a good old fashioned ghost story (not some freaked out demon on steriods that tries to top the LAST monster in a monster movie) and, well...Dean Cundy's lighting was amazing.  It's a beautifully shot film.

Agreed: AMC screened it this weekend and I watched it again - very atmospheric and creepy.  :smile:


Title: Re: THE FOG (1980) ~ DUMB FILM
Post by: Allhallowsday on August 31, 2015, 07:48:22 PM
I like Carpenter's THE FOG...the atmosphere, a good old fashioned ghost story (not some freaked out demon on steriods that tries to top the LAST monster in a monster movie) and, well...Dean Cundy's lighting was amazing.  It's a beautifully shot film.

Agreed: AMC screened it this weekend and I watched it again - very atmospheric and creepy.  :smile:
I like THE FOG too.  But, it is dumb. 


Title: Re: THE FOG (1980) ~ DUMB FILM
Post by: Trevor on September 01, 2015, 01:21:29 AM
I like Carpenter's THE FOG...the atmosphere, a good old fashioned ghost story (not some freaked out demon on steriods that tries to top the LAST monster in a monster movie) and, well...Dean Cundy's lighting was amazing.  It's a beautifully shot film.

Agreed: AMC screened it this weekend and I watched it again - very atmospheric and creepy.  :smile:
I like THE FOG too.  But, it is dumb. 

The remake of The Fog: that's dumb.  :thumbdown:


Title: Re: THE FOG (1980) ~ DUMB FILM
Post by: Alex on September 01, 2015, 02:26:28 AM
I remember watching this one when it first came out on VHS and loving it. Even today I think it rates as one of John Carpenters best movies. I'd have to agree with the comments above about the atmosphere being fantastic. It might be a dumb movie but I'd love to see more movies made in a similar manner. Certainly beats the whole torture porn thing for me.


Title: Re: THE FOG (1980) ~ DUMB FILM
Post by: ralfy on September 01, 2015, 12:25:02 PM
Saw it when it was released on video tape as well. Had very fond memories of it, and those didn't disappear even when I saw it again years later. I guess it's because of the setting, the DJ's job, the point that I saw it with other horror flicks from the late '70s, etc.


Title: Re: THE FOG (1980) ~ DUMB FILM
Post by: Allhallowsday on September 01, 2015, 02:18:46 PM
Saw it when it was released on video tape as well. Had very fond memories of it, and those didn't disappear even when I saw it again years later. I guess it's because of the setting, the DJ's job, the point that I saw it with other horror flicks from the late '70s, etc.

I saw it new in the theater and thought it didn't make sense then.  If one were to go back to page one of this old thread I started, my review of this wonderful and DUMB movie is at the start.   :teddyr: