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Title: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: the master on June 24, 2008, 03:30:55 PM
i want to introduce some of my friends to bad movies
but i dont know what to start with. i talk about them
to them and i dont know what film to start with
mabey somthing not that bad for a bad movie?


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: Patient7 on June 24, 2008, 03:34:26 PM
I would say, start off with a horror-comedy like Evil Dead 2 or Army of Darkness, or something with gratuitous nudity.


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: Saucerman on June 24, 2008, 03:40:20 PM
Definitely start with anything Bruce Campbell's in. 


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: the master on June 24, 2008, 03:45:06 PM
I would say, start off with a horror-comedy like Evil Dead 2 or Army of Darkness, or something with gratuitous nudity.
about the nudity part. some of my friends are girls.


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: Raffine on June 24, 2008, 03:50:38 PM
Strap 'em to a chair and fire up MONSTER A GO GO.

It's sink-or-swim from there, buddy.  :teddyr:


(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t214/morrisawilliams/monster_a_go_go.jpg)
No, really! Guess!


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: The Burgomaster on June 24, 2008, 04:08:04 PM
Well, you could go "all in" and show them PINK FLAMINGOS.  It may make them completely disgusted and destroy your friendships (especially with the girls).  But if they survive the ordeal, they will be hardened bad movie fans.  Tough call.  It's sort of like trying to run before you can walk.  But what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: the master on June 24, 2008, 04:25:16 PM
Well, you could go "all in" and show them PINK FLAMINGOS.  It may make them completely disgusted and destroy your friendships (especially with the girls).  But if they survive the ordeal, they will be hardened bad movie fans.  Tough call.  It's sort of like trying to run before you can walk.  But what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
(looks it up on imdb)
that would destroy all my friendships.
and i dont want to watch that.
at all
and were all to young
for nc17
raiting


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: ulthar on June 24, 2008, 04:41:50 PM
I would say, start off with a horror-comedy like Evil Dead 2 or Army of Darkness, or something with gratuitous nudity.
about the nudity part. some of my friends are girls.

Girls can't appreciate gratuitous nudity?


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: the master on June 24, 2008, 05:00:42 PM
i dont even know of here taste in movies that much


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: Doc Daneeka on June 24, 2008, 05:15:19 PM
One of the Puppet Master movies? They're pretty campy, but some have some weird sex scenes in them (Though they're usually pretty brief). I don't think parts 4 or 5 do though. I would say 2 or 5 would be especially good as "b-movie hooks", 2 is the most "out there" (Aside from the non-effort Vs. Demonic Toys), and 5 has the puppets as good guys fighting a little monster thingy with the help of the sagely spirit of their old master and a slightly dorky "boy-toy" new master, plus plenty of fake-looking blood. It continues directly from part 4 but there's a recap at the beginning. If you can find the videocassettes (Which is the hardest part) I'd set up a double-feature with parts 4 and 5.

From what I've seen Uninvited looks like prime material to start out on b-movies, but I haven't seen the whole thing so I can't be sure. PG-13 but still plenty of blood and some sexy moments is what this clip suggests: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucNnRd2WnJk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucNnRd2WnJk). Andrew has a review on the main site so you may want to check that out.

Godzilla flicks are also good as a starting point, unlike some things I've listed a good majority are readily available on DVD. A warning though, while most contain awesome monster fights some can be pretty serious. Godzilla Vs. Monster X is probably a good place to start, three monsters and weird aliens to boot!

Considering stronger female characters, I think of Cursed. I only saw the TV edit so I don't know how much "bad stuff" is in it but the girl is neither a damsel in distress or a cliche tough chick. In Scarecrows (1988) there's no real romance at all despite the two prominent female characters, the good one is pretty tough.

The House series (1986-1992) are plenty campy and have a good bit of monster mayhem. The first two even have a bit of emotion and intentional humor to balance it out. I haven't seen the third but I wouldn't exactly recommend the fourth, it's really bad and has a close-up on a chick's bloody boobs. Also if you're looking for gore, monsters, and weird characters check out Waxwork, or for just monsters and odd characters see if you can find a copy of Spookies anywhere.

Hopefully at least two of these will have enough action to keep your friends awake and interested, and have enough weird stuff to make "B" mean "good" for your pals.


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: Patient7 on June 24, 2008, 05:21:42 PM
I would say, start off with a horror-comedy like Evil Dead 2 or Army of Darkness, or something with gratuitous nudity.
about the nudity part. some of my friends are girls.

Too bad for them.  :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: Sister Grace on June 24, 2008, 05:28:29 PM
I would say, start off with a horror-comedy like Evil Dead 2 or Army of Darkness, or something with gratuitous nudity.
about the nudity part. some of my friends are girls.

Nudity doesn't bother all of us girls... infact, when i go to rent something; i look for three things:

Nudity
Gore
Sex


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: Doc Daneeka on June 24, 2008, 05:32:20 PM
Maybe Rottweiler with gratuitous male nudity?


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: Andrew on June 24, 2008, 07:31:17 PM
Couple of favorites that I used to "break people in" are these:

Breakin'
Flash Gordon (1980)
The Beast of Yucca Flats
The Giant Claw
Nine Deaths of the Ninja
Starcrash
There's Nothing Out There
Sheena
Hell Comes to Frogtown


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: the master on June 24, 2008, 07:49:19 PM
thanks andrew i think ill go with beast of yucca flatts love tor johnson and quoting
the nararation on it.... progress
but then theres the breast shot in it. is that is easy to miss?
dont want the girl to think im a pervert.


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: Andrew on June 24, 2008, 07:51:18 PM
thanks andrew i think ill go with beast of yucca flatts love tor johnson and quoting
the nararation on it.... progress
but then theres the breast shot in it. is that is easy to miss?
dont want the girl to think im a pervert.

The scene is pretty prominent at the beginning of the film.  Like I said in the review, it does not fit in the story in any manner (unless you get creative with a flashforward flashback), so I have no idea why it is there.


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: the master on June 24, 2008, 07:58:48 PM
thanks andrew i think ill go with beast of yucca flatts love tor johnson and quoting
the nararation on it.... progress
but then theres the breast shot in it. is that is easy to miss?
dont want the girl to think im a pervert.

The scene is pretty prominent at the beginning of the film.  Like I said in the review, it does not fit in the story in any manner (unless you get creative with a flashforward flashback), so I have no idea why it is there.
i think it is a man murdiring tors wife in hungrey as the nararator states
of course it is coleman francis son what do you expect?


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: the master on June 24, 2008, 08:18:24 PM
thanks andrew i think ill go with beast of yucca flatts love tor johnson and quoting
the nararation on it.... progress
but then theres the breast shot in it. is that is easy to miss?
dont want the girl to think im a pervert.

The scene is pretty prominent at the beginning of the film.  Like I said in the review, it does not fit in the story in any manner (unless you get creative with a flashforward flashback), so I have no idea why it is there.
i meant to say so. sorry
oh yeah my first bad movie was teenagers from outer space
so im thinking that
but then i could go for the most main stream
and say plan nine.
i think it is a man murdiring tors wife in hungrey as the nararator states
of course it is coleman francis son what do you expect?


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: CheezeFlixz on June 24, 2008, 09:05:12 PM
Quote
dont want the girl to think im a pervert.


Why not? I know a lot of female perverts ... speaking of "Pervert" you could show them that one.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0460898/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0460898/)


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: Kester Pelagius on June 25, 2008, 12:46:05 AM
i want to introduce some of my friends to bad movies
but i dont know what to start with. i talk about them
to them and i dont know what film to start with
mabey somthing not that bad for a bad movie?

Why not let your friends decide?

This has two main benefits: 1) You get to show off your movie collection; 2) Your friends can't blame you NO MATTER WHAT for the movie.  OTOH since you state "and were all to young for nc17" I am going to assume this means you don't have a large collection to show off to your peer group?

Alas, not knowing how old you are, this puts us in a bit of a pickle.  There's a ton of SWV titles that I could recommend but if you're not old enough for NC-17 movies you're probably not old enough for those.  But I can wholeheartedly second the following already suggested titles....

Flash Gordon (1980)
Sheena*
Hell Comes to Frogtown*
The House series

I'd also recommend....

Dungeon of Harrow**
Moon of the Wolf
Fangs of the Living Dead
Hercules Against the Moon Men**
Future War**
Spaceballs
Steel Dawn*
Steel Frontier
Tank Girl***
Alien Species
Once Bitten
A.P.E.X.

And if I could remember the name of the silly time travel movie Carrie Fisher starred in I'd recommend that, too, but I don't think it's made it to DVD.


(*) Warning has brief boobage
(**) Movies so bad they are to be laughed at.
(***) Much luved by the wimmun folk.


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: frank on June 25, 2008, 02:19:00 AM

I think it's a good idea to have some to choose from by your guests. Some good suggestions already, although I would try movies that could be considered "classics" even by the uninitiated.

e.g. Plan 9 (they might have seen Ed Wood with Johnny Depp - you could also show both in a row), Giant Claw, Killer Shrews, Last man on earth (especially if they have already seen I am legend - could also be pared)

I think old b/w movies are crampy enough to make you look interesting, but not deranged enough to make you look strange.

Definitely Bruce Campell or early Peter Jackson (Bad Tase, Brain Dead, Meet the Feebles) if you want to go more "modern"





Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: Mofo Rising on June 25, 2008, 02:56:09 AM
I think what you are looking for is a movie that's fun. It's a bit tricky to figure, you'll have to aim it at your audience, but what you're probably looking for is a movie that's so bad that the entire group will have a good time making fun of it.

Fun is the main thing.

It takes a hardy breed to make it through bad genre films, especially if you are not predisposed to them (like I think most of us here are). I wouldn't start off on say, Bloodsucking Freaks.

What I would look for is a movie that is just beyond their comfort level, say in stupidity, gore, or (if you like) nudity. Let the core ineptness shine through, it's not a movie to be taken seriously, all the excess should be silly.

For example, take Braindead/Dead Alive. It's a movie that really pushes the boundaries as far as gore is concerned, but it approaches it with such levity you can't help but laugh (hopefully they will too). If they are in the right mood, they will laugh at the kung-fu priest and a grown man beating up a zombie baby. My brother's ex-girlfriend, when I showed it to them, thought it was "cute."

I think I've met more girls who want to see the crazy stuff than otherwise. They don't usually offer to watch them, but every once in a while that copy of Frankenhooker will provoke a bad movie night. Come to think of it, the first bad movie fan I met when I moved to Phoenix was a girl and a compulsive bad movie fan (I don't think her boyfriend was). So there you go.

So, fun. Not too many people will ever want to see cinematic atrocities, like Slapstick (of Another Kind) or Sextette. I'm not sure I want to watch them, but I see them otherwise. Perhaps it's like buckshot; a few hits, lots of misses.


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: dean on June 25, 2008, 08:52:17 AM

Depends on your friends I suppose.  I luckily have many who enjoy the wierder tastes in life, so I'm halfway there, but I second Andrew's suggestion of 'Breakin'

I organised an event where we all went to an outdoor cinema to see it ad it was a good way to ease into the ludicrous world of the B-movie, without being too offensive to your sensibilities.

Its also a good way of gauging their tastes if you haven't already figured them out.

Last movie night a few friends and I had we ended up watching Buckaroo Banzai, which also was a good intro-type movie since it has some good name power behind it, like John Lithgow, Paul Weller and Jeff Goblum.

I also agree with Mofo: get something fun, and something that if they just don't like you can pass the time 'taking the p**s' and just make fun of it for the rest of the movie.  At the least it will be a torturous experience, at best a bonding experience almost akin to soldiers on the field of battle.

Or at least that's how some friends of mine feel after I forced them to watch Forbidden Zone, with comments like 'it was a horrible film' and then they don't stop talking about it for at least 10 minutes.


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: Patient7 on June 25, 2008, 09:09:32 AM
Once Bitten


I would disagree, I found that movie to be pretty stupid, about one slime.  Even a movie about vampires, I refuse to believe a woman can walk a tiger* around L.A.


*actually I can't remember if it was a tiger or a lion, but it was some type of jungle cat


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: CheezeFlixz on June 25, 2008, 09:30:36 AM
Quote
how to introduce someone to bad movies

Say you friends name is Bob ...

"Bob, I like to introduce you to Bad Movie .... Bad Movie this is Bob."


That seems simple enough.


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: dean on June 25, 2008, 09:46:26 AM
Quote
how to introduce someone to bad movies

Say you friends name is Bob ...

"Bob, I like to introduce you to Bad Movie .... Bad Movie this is Bob."


That seems simple enough.

Zammo!   :thumbup:


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: Kester Pelagius on June 25, 2008, 10:06:18 AM
Once Bitten


I would disagree, I found that movie to be pretty stupid, about one slime.  Even a movie about vampires, I refuse to believe a woman can walk a tiger* around L.A.


*actually I can't remember if it was a tiger or a lion, but it was some type of jungle cat

Which reminds me BEASTMASTER* is fun, as is BEASTMASTER II, though I think the latter is AWOL on DVD.

As for why I suggested ONCE BITTEN it's PG-13, has Jim Carrey in it, and strikes just the right tone of silly-stupid fun that might appeal to teens.  Besides the movie I'd prefer to have suggested, VAMPS (not to be confused with BEVERLY HILLS VAMP), is rated R.  I know one silly-stupid 80s vampire teen comedy is much like any other, but at least ONCE BITTEN has the familiar face of Jim Carrey in it.

A great way to kick-off a bad movie night is to show movies of famous actors from before they were famous.

Speaking of silly-stupid but fun 80s movies HOWARD THE DUCK would probably also be one of the better choices to open a bad movie night for the uninitiated.  Sadly I believe it's still AWOL on DVD.  Other good choices would be BUCKAROO BONZAI, CHERRY 2000*, SPACEHUNTER ADVENTURES IN THE FORBIDDEN ZONE, KILLER KLOWNS FROM OUTER SPACE, SPACED INVADERS, or, if your friends are into hard rock or heavy metal, try TRICK OR TREAT* or THE GATE.


(*) Warning boobage!


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: peter johnson on June 25, 2008, 10:34:24 AM
I'd dive right in with a classic:  Phil Tucker's "Robot Monster" -- It has good, clean, silly fun written all over it, plus it is amazingly dumb --
We showed this one on the big screen once to a packed house at the Boulder Theatre, and everyone laughed and had a great time, and not all of those people were genre freaks like us.  I'd say that one bridges gaps of gender and age plus it makes immediately clear what we mean here by "Bad Movies"!
peter johnson/denny crane


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: Evan on June 27, 2008, 04:44:14 PM
I had this problem too, so what I did is made them all watch the amazing Troll 2. They loved it and now I usually bring a bad movie over for parties and such. Just last week we got mostly through Burial Ground: The Nights of Terror. Of course, we cant make it though a movie such as that without speaking out and laughing our asses off, but we get though. And my female friends didnt mind the female nudity that much. They all loved Return of the Living Dead.

But yea, Troll 2 did it for me. Its appropriate for mostly all ages, is bunches of fun, and os quite bad.


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: hellbilly on June 28, 2008, 04:37:29 AM
I would begin with Mommie Dearest (1981)

It starts out rather harmless but gets cheesier by the minute.

Earthquake (1974) is another great big budget disaster oozing with cheese.

Another fine example of bad but fun filmmaking: The Manitou (1978) or Day Of The Animals (1977). One could also add Grizzly (1976) and make it a William Girdler triple feature.


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: Caronte on June 28, 2008, 05:31:53 AM
I would say, start off with a horror-comedy like Evil Dead 2 or Army of Darkness, or something with gratuitous nudity.
about the nudity part. some of my friends are girls.

And???

Plan 9 from outer space, killer klowns...and beers


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: dean on June 28, 2008, 06:28:37 AM
Ah I forgot about Killer Klowns from Outer Space!  Easy to watch, got crazy clowns [or is it Krazy Klowns?]

Plus a tracker poodle made out of balloons and a somewhat terrifying 'puppet' scene!


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: Mouseboy on June 28, 2008, 01:57:44 PM
I usually start off people new to b movies with something not so bad like evil dead army of darkness or The Lost Skeleton of cadavra


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: Doc Daneeka on June 28, 2008, 04:22:40 PM
I usually start off people new to b movies with something not so bad like evil dead army of darkness or The Lost Skeleton of cadavra
I believe Army of Darkness may have been the first film where I was conscious of intentional badness (well, intentional comic bits) :smile: .


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: Mouseboy on June 28, 2008, 04:52:58 PM

[/quote]I believe Army of Darkness may have been the first film where I was conscious of intentional badness (well, intentional comic bits) :smile: .
[/quote]

Have you seen the other movie I mentioned, the lost skeleton of cadavra that one is hilarious with its intentional badness. It is making fun of 1950's sci-fi movies.


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: Doc Daneeka on June 28, 2008, 05:47:41 PM

Quote
I believe Army of Darkness may have been the first film where I was conscious of intentional badness (well, intentional comic bits) :smile: .

Have you seen the other movie I mentioned, the lost skeleton of cadavra that one is hilarious with its intentional badness. It is making fun of 1950's sci-fi movies.
It's currently on my "to see" list, but not very high.


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: WingedSerpent on June 28, 2008, 08:49:28 PM
I use the MST3K approach.  If they don't like the movie, hopefully they like Mike and the Bots jokes.

Or movies that are funny to almost everyone like Killer Klowns.


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: Sister Grace on June 29, 2008, 08:15:00 AM
Dead Alive or They Live are choices you may consider..


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: peter johnson on June 29, 2008, 11:54:37 PM
I freakin' loved Lost Skeleton of Cadavara, but some on this site didn't care for it so much --
I thought it found the absolutely correct pitch of these films from the '50's and early '60's -- "Dance, Animalia, Dance!!"
Plus, much of it was filmed in Bronson Canyon.
But, yeah, it's not a REAL badmovie, in the sense that the people involved were consciously trying to reproduce that . . . certain feeling one gets from the genuine article -- sort of like "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes" --
Anyway, Lost Skeleton has elements of many of these cheese-plate films we all enjoy as well-preserved as lark's tongues in aspic.
peter johnson/denny DANCE, ANIMALIA, DANCE!!!!


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: Coffin Joe on June 30, 2008, 04:09:21 AM
For Your Height Only.

A friend of mine had a 'Nerd Weekend'. Games, movies and what not. I couldn't make it but MADE him get that disk from netflicks. It was the last night around 2 AM, all were tired and about to go to bed when he goes "Oh yeah J made me rent this movie, sounds kinda goofy, lets just check it out."  2 hours later they were all still up, crying with laughter.

And the second feature on that disk, Challenge of the Tiger, so good.(boobs, do not fear them)

also...
Blacula
Switchblade Sisters
Horrors of Spider Island
The Devil's Sword
Any Santo movie
Deathmachines(more boob)
Blood of Fu Manchu
Yokai Monster movies(3 of them)
42nd Street Forever trailer disks(boob, boob and more boob)


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: Sister Grace on June 30, 2008, 06:03:51 AM
Circle of Iron aka The Silent Flute is pretty bad but good in a hilarious way. It was dubbed 'the mystical martial art movie; i'm not sure what your tastes are but most people can find atleast one thing amusing about it.

The Preview

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uPi23unabtM


My favorite scene...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BljBGUuwDGI


Title: Re: how to introduce someone to bad movies
Post by: AnubisVonMojo on June 30, 2008, 07:08:16 AM
What I find usually works is showing friends movies that feature known directors or actors early in their careers. Did your friends like the Spider-Man flicks? Introduce 'em to the Evil Dead trilogy and Intruder. Did they like the Lord of the Rings trilogy? Blow their minds by showing them where Peter Jackson originated from with Bad Taste, Dead Alive, and Meet the Feebles. Does your female friend like Titanic? Show her Piranha 2: the Spawning. Sylvester Stallone fans? Death Race 2000. Leonard DiCaprio? Critters III. Jennifer Aniston? Leprechaun. Arnold Schwarzenegger? Hercules In NY. Just find a list of mainstream stars who started in b-flicks and you'll have something to start with.  :teddyr:

If nothing else, I agree with Serpent on breaking out some MST3K DVDs. There are a number of in-jokes that your friends might not get, but there are plenty of other jokes that are universal. We introduced a friend of ours to Mike and the bots via the Giant Spider Invasion and Riding With Death episodes and she's been quoting them ever since.